@TupocalypseShakur I fused Thanatos with ragnarok, niflheim, panta rhei, thunder reign, and morning star, and then taught it victory cry, spell master, and mind charge. Purely because thanatos is cool and it's a shame he was otherwise useless.
What I find hilarious about it taking 33 hours to hit max level is you could grind to max level and then blitz the rest of the game in less time than it would take to do a full casual playthrough that wouldn't reach max level.
!!THIS CHALLENGE WAS COMPLETED!! [There's a new video up: th-cam.com/video/wz5m3n41gds/w-d-xo.html , but here are the old addendums I made] Going to make a list of addendums here as I go along. There might not actually be a lot of addendums, but we'll see. *Regarding the Time Estimate:* I've been playing on Very Hard and noticed that the EXP amounts are somewhat smaller than I was anticipating. The math checks out for it being a 0.4x modifier, roughly, but I went back to my level 99 save on Very Easy to compare battles with two Black Raven shadows. On Very Hard I end the battle with 12 EXP and two party members alive, but when I do the same fight on Very Easy at level 99, I get 96 EXP. First of all 96 isn't 1/3 of 12 (lol,) and second of all 96 doesn't make sense with the numbers on the megaten wiki and the modifiers it should have. idk. Again, maybe my math is just bad, but TL;DR: The Time Estimate for this Very Hard run is now probably much longer than 99 hours. *Regarding White Rider vs. Arahabaki:* Haven't fought Reaper just yet, but White Rider seems a little weak, probably will fuse both alongside Byakko and other personas with many resistances. Will update after I kill Reaper with a five iron. *RE: Regarding White Rider vs. Arahabaki:* After a lot of hours of grinding, I beat the Reaper at level 80. The best strategy ended up being to have a persona with full resistance and Ali Dance, rely on evading Megi skills, and then just doing basic attacks. I fused a number of Personas with resistances and tried a number of ideas. (One of them was to fuse Michael and use Heaven's Sword to try and spam crits, but y'know.) The most consistent thing was just having a persona with ali dance and chipping away at the Reaper hoping it does physical skills to hurt itself. Thus, I actually used Arahabaki, having one of its skills switch into Null Wind so that I could fuse Ali Dance into it. Arahabaki wins! *Regarding the Reaper:* Somehow I didn't put it together that the EXP reward would be smaller despite literally saying it would be out loud. (lol.) At any rate on Very Hard it turns out I only get a whopping *2000* EXP for beating the Reaper solo. Still worth because having ultimate weapons and robes cuts just a little bit of time off every battle which definitely matters in the long run. But man do I feel stupid rofl.
This was actually pretty dope not gonna lie. Don't think I could do that twice tho in that boring ass dungeon xD Always wanted to see how fast I could get level 99 in P3P
A lot of my chat likes to suggest P3P and level 99 in the first block of tartarus as a challenge in the future... no plans to actually listen to them and do it right now though lol.
fun fact, to get early vic cry, u dont have to use a kaiwan, any persona with tetrakarn will do as long as u get the luck for tetrakarn to turn to vic cry. when i found out about early vic cry, i just fused random personas passing on tetrakarn until i got it on gabriel
I have done a lot of retakes over my recordings because I was too close to the mic and whispering too much. But now that I know there's a market for it... might have to consider it lol.
I haven't either honestly! I find it pretty hard to stay motivated to play these kinds of games normally, even though I really like them, so challenge runs it is lol.
Now do the same but in P3P, on Risky, being on only the first floor of Tartarus on the first day that it becomes available, without splitting up the party.
editing and time commitment is very good. you've done a good job. Would be nice to see more from you in the future. I should say that you sound a bit quiet and mostly monotone, so I would recommend raising the gain on your audio or speaking louder. Other than that I very much enjoyed watching
Thanks so much for the detailed feedback, man! I am currently a bit swamped with life stuff, but I am trying to get another proper video done for viewing. Using my voice is a delicate balance between getting too ASMR-ish and too far away from the mic. Haven't super figured out how I'm supposed to present myself yet, but hopefully I'll master it someday lol.
First off, you're almost certifiably insane for doing this. Second of all, why oh why did you sound like someone going into Alchoholics Anonymous in the begining of the video...? The mental image that came from that was...funnier than expected. Treating doing something like this as something that requires therapeutic intervention XD
I am currently on a bit of a "break" as I'm trying to get some work stuff in order... but it will for sure be done, I think we're level 86 right now so getting """"close""""
if that doesn't give you the zing you are hoping for in a challenge you could always play very hard go 2 dungeons ahead and then go back to farm up to 99, then you'll get that feeling as well as impending dread upon the overwhelming colossal challenge you just imposed on yourself
think that one's already been done before and a pretty good video was made for it to boot, sooooo not much for me there. appreciate the suggestions tho.
if you're talking about going up a floor and then coming back down, which is all that seems to come up when I search for details about farming gold hands, I tried this for a good while and in my own testing it didn't seem any different from what I do now-- going down a floor and coming back up (saves time on opening the stairs door.) If you're talking about something else, it'd be awesome to hear 👍
ok I saw the RagnarAlvarrGaming video (assuming this is what you were talking abaout.) I will try this ASAP. It was only uploaded April this year and I'm not in any speedrunning community so I had no idea lol.
Can you tell me something? What are Yosuke's and Chie's max stats when you got them to level 99 in the first dungeon? I'm resolving an old curiosity of mine.
This is actually something that I can't answer yet; When I got to level 99 on Very Easy, I would let Chie and Yousuke die to reaper fights so that I could get more EXP faster, meaning on that save they're actually tens of thousands of experience points behind me. They've died a few times on this new run too, but I'm almost done (Level 92 when writing this I think) and I'll be sure to push a little further to answer this question since I'm curious too lol.
@@BRAVEGLASS my reasons are that according the shin megami website, their max stats should be higher than the evidence I've found. I'm gonna use strength for example. It says that Jiraiya's max level strength is 72. Once you max social link Yosuke, his strength actually gains 3 points. So, Susanoo should have 75 strength. However, evidence I have found is that Susanoo at lvl 99 has 72 strength. Bear in mind, I'm not including equipment that boosts his stats or any of the stat boosts from the movie theater. I just want to know if the website is wrong. (P.s. did you know that Yukiko of all people loses a point in magic when you max social link her?)
I spent about two weeks on the very easy run, but yeah only 33 hours across however long you wanna spend in Yukiko's Castle. For a comparison we've been in this very hard challenge forrrr like 3-4 months?
Do I come across as vain in this video? I fully acknowledge just how meaningless and pathetic this challenge is-- I just have fun doing meaningless things.
@@BRAVEGLASS In the video you do, yes. You say that 33 hours of grinding will not get you recognition, so you will increase the difficulty and take 3x as long just to receive some internet cred. Also, doing "meaningless things" is kind of the definition of vanity. No hate here, if you like doing these sorts of things go for it, but this is how it comes across to me.
@@xdokaydokay571 Oh yeah, it's definitely for me and not for "internet cred." I'd finish the challenge if no one was watching. *I* wasn't satisfied with it, how the internet felt about it wasn't a factor, sorry if that wasn't clear.
@@xdokaydokay571 Also, I do feel like that's a pretty unfair definition of vanity. Doing meaningless things should only be vain if the only reason you do them is for your appearance. Otherwise, under that definition, the monks seem to be the most vain people to ever do it-- which doesn't feel right.
@@BRAVEGLASS Either way we're defining vanity on our own terms. You say vanity isn't vanity if you're getting enjoyment from it. I'm saying it's vanity because it's meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's difficult to argue these kinds of things because we can define vanity however we like. I guess in the end all is vanity because we die at the end of our lives, but I'm not trying to get that philosophical over a persona 4 video. The only reason I made the comment is because you mentioned how 33 hours of "meaningless grinding" wasn't enough to satisfy you. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say 3x that much time spent grinding won't satisfy you either, so it seems a bit vain to do. Again, if you get enjoyment from it, like true enjoyment, go for it. We play video games for fun, and if you're having that, all power to you
It's not impressive and you know it. Mindless repetition for a goal that is nonexistent is pure madness. Are you really wasting this much time for pride?? Imagine what could be accomplished in this time.
I respect that you have the determination to do this, but good god, go do literally anything else and be remotely productive. Please, your family is begging you
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Shadow yukiko watching this man go from level 1 to 99 in her dungeon then coming to fight her OxO
Regular Yukiko watching me go from level 1 to level 99 in a day that's lasted multiple months now: 🤨
@@BRAVEGLASS time flows differently in the TV world, that's the only logical explanation
@@gyppygirl2021 I see Izanami took inspiration from the Dark -Hour- Month
And then she gets wet in the fight...
Fusing izanagi with victory cry cause he’s cool is the most based reason for fusing.
i always hold onto starting personas in some way because theyre just sick as fuck lol
@@queenismyfavoriteband9904 I remember bringing Orpheus to the Nyx boss fight, not Telos, regular Orpheus
You guys are chad cuz you guys Using starter persona to fight boss
@TupocalypseShakur I fused Thanatos with ragnarok, niflheim, panta rhei, thunder reign, and morning star, and then taught it victory cry, spell master, and mind charge. Purely because thanatos is cool and it's a shame he was otherwise useless.
Everybody gangsta until you get yukiko and shes level 15
probably not the reply you're expecting, but pairing a Naoto pfp with a Peanuts username kind of owns.
@@BRAVEGLASS yes ty
What I find hilarious about it taking 33 hours to hit max level is you could grind to max level and then blitz the rest of the game in less time than it would take to do a full casual playthrough that wouldn't reach max level.
An interesting observation and I would have to agree it's hilarious
you are a brave soul, ive gotten to this a bit late but i hope to still witness these events unfold as they happen
Cheers! Level 44 right now, so plenty of journey left to go. :)
props to you, I'm honestly really surprised to see someone tried it out and even made a cool vid about it, nice work !
Thanks! Here's to hoping I manage more than just trying it out. I want the W. 😤
!!THIS CHALLENGE WAS COMPLETED!!
[There's a new video up: th-cam.com/video/wz5m3n41gds/w-d-xo.html , but here are the old addendums I made]
Going to make a list of addendums here as I go along. There might not actually be a lot of addendums, but we'll see.
*Regarding the Time Estimate:* I've been playing on Very Hard and noticed that the EXP amounts are somewhat smaller than I was anticipating. The math checks out for it being a 0.4x modifier, roughly, but I went back to my level 99 save on Very Easy to compare battles with two Black Raven shadows. On Very Hard I end the battle with 12 EXP and two party members alive, but when I do the same fight on Very Easy at level 99, I get 96 EXP. First of all 96 isn't 1/3 of 12 (lol,) and second of all 96 doesn't make sense with the numbers on the megaten wiki and the modifiers it should have. idk. Again, maybe my math is just bad, but
TL;DR: The Time Estimate for this Very Hard run is now probably much longer than 99 hours.
*Regarding White Rider vs. Arahabaki:* Haven't fought Reaper just yet, but White Rider seems a little weak, probably will fuse both alongside Byakko and other personas with many resistances. Will update after I kill Reaper with a five iron.
*RE: Regarding White Rider vs. Arahabaki:* After a lot of hours of grinding, I beat the Reaper at level 80. The best strategy ended up being to have a persona with full resistance and Ali Dance, rely on evading Megi skills, and then just doing basic attacks. I fused a number of Personas with resistances and tried a number of ideas. (One of them was to fuse Michael and use Heaven's Sword to try and spam crits, but y'know.) The most consistent thing was just having a persona with ali dance and chipping away at the Reaper hoping it does physical skills to hurt itself. Thus, I actually used Arahabaki, having one of its skills switch into Null Wind so that I could fuse Ali Dance into it. Arahabaki wins!
*Regarding the Reaper:* Somehow I didn't put it together that the EXP reward would be smaller despite literally saying it would be out loud. (lol.) At any rate on Very Hard it turns out I only get a whopping *2000* EXP for beating the Reaper solo. Still worth because having ultimate weapons and robes cuts just a little bit of time off every battle which definitely matters in the long run. But man do I feel stupid rofl.
This was actually pretty dope not gonna lie. Don't think I could do that twice tho in that boring ass dungeon xD Always wanted to see how fast I could get level 99 in P3P
A lot of my chat likes to suggest P3P and level 99 in the first block of tartarus as a challenge in the future... no plans to actually listen to them and do it right now though lol.
@@BRAVEGLASS honestly don't blame you lol
Never played Persona 4 but I honestly stuck around the whole video just to listen to your voice
Idk why but it’s kinda relaxing
thank you! I actually didn't know people liked my voice so much until I made this channel. flattering every time I hear it honestly lol.
Looking forward to your next vid boss
Look at this guy chilling in yukikos castle and talking about time crystals
Damn dude that's crazy
Doing something incredibly grindy for the sake of saying you did it? I can dig that
So we got tevin with the kamoshida p5r and this man's for p4g alright who's biting the bullet for p3fes
madlad
I remember watching ur live streams, Great Work 👍
ayooo an OG. and much respect to you being an early viewer of course. 🤙
fun fact, to get early vic cry, u dont have to use a kaiwan, any persona with tetrakarn will do as long as u get the luck for tetrakarn to turn to vic cry. when i found out about early vic cry, i just fused random personas passing on tetrakarn until i got it on gabriel
Absolute madlad
Godspeed
Hey I just wanna say great video! You have insane patience to go to lv 99 2 times 🤣. Respect to u man keep up the good work!
Subbed for the journey :p
You have a perfect voice for Asmr
I have done a lot of retakes over my recordings because I was too close to the mic and whispering too much.
But now that I know there's a market for it... might have to consider it lol.
Haven't played persona in a minute
I haven't either honestly! I find it pretty hard to stay motivated to play these kinds of games normally, even though I really like them, so challenge runs it is lol.
This is really interesting actually
thank you sir
Mad man’s still hearting comments. Shows his commitment
I've been very busy with life stuff but I want people to know I'm seeing stuff and will get back to this when I can!
And here I thought my max stat ose was impressive
real recognizes real, mr. undertale 👊
Oh boy I just found this video, I wonder what wacky shenanigans will happen in stream chat, perhaps I can cause a few
who the heck are you and why are you so mysterious... almost akechi-esque in some way.
@@BRAVEGLASS so true random channel I totally just found
Now do the same but in P3P, on Risky, being on only the first floor of Tartarus on the first day that it becomes available, without splitting up the party.
haha good one
editing and time commitment is very good. you've done a good job. Would be nice to see more from you in the future. I should say that you sound a bit quiet and mostly monotone, so I would recommend raising the gain on your audio or speaking louder. Other than that I very much enjoyed watching
Thanks so much for the detailed feedback, man!
I am currently a bit swamped with life stuff, but I am trying to get another proper video done for viewing.
Using my voice is a delicate balance between getting too ASMR-ish and too far away from the mic. Haven't super figured out how I'm supposed to present myself yet, but hopefully I'll master it someday lol.
@@BRAVEGLASS everyone has their own rhythm, hope you find yours
I would think Very Easy would be boring as hell. But repeating the challenge on Very Hard earns you back some respect ;)
as far as gameplay goes both runs are pretty much watching paint dry lol.
but we're keeping it going.
First off, you're almost certifiably insane for doing this.
Second of all, why oh why did you sound like someone going into Alchoholics Anonymous in the begining of the video...?
The mental image that came from that was...funnier than expected. Treating doing something like this as something that requires therapeutic intervention XD
never realized that about my intro LOL
@@BRAVEGLASS It really came across like that to me XD. And then you turned around like "Yes I have a problem...I haven't gone deep enough!"
Damn, i planned on doing this but stopped cuz i got busy with school
I am currently on a bit of a "break" as I'm trying to get some work stuff in order... but it will for sure be done, I think we're level 86 right now so getting """"close""""
I miss hearing Izanagi get called
but i sure as hell aren't doing this
gj tho
Jesus this must’ve been so hard
the work is still unfinished
@@BRAVEGLASS I wish you all the luck then cause that seems like it's gonna be super hard and annoying especially since your doing it a second time.
@@animeloverhaven Ahh don't worry about it. Hanging out with chat is plenty of fun. 👍
@@BRAVEGLASS at least you had fun
madlad!!
i love how your voice and the background music made me chill.what name of the background music?
Thanks!
In order the songs are:
"Corndog" from Persona Q
and "Long Way from Persona 4.
You're a true brave soul, Braveglass
Insane
Brave Soul
if that doesn't give you the zing you are hoping for in a challenge you could always play very hard go 2 dungeons ahead and then go back to farm up to 99, then you'll get that feeling as well as impending dread upon the overwhelming colossal challenge you just imposed on yourself
Try this on Very Hard and you have to start with nothing. On a whole new profile
That's what I've done! And am doing. On a bit of a hiatus right now, but it will be done.
I never did the war cry strategy, the game pacing is already slow
So much free time
I like your voice. I’ll sub.
I like your sub. I'll voice.
Imagine fight yukiko boss maybe one hit death?
You are insane
Agreed!
@@BRAVEGLASS so how much yen did you collect
@@rift3487 oh gosh in the first run idk, but definitely over multiple millions.
lvl 99 in the 1st dungeon is cool and all but have you ever felt grass? 10/10 would recommend
next challenge for sure
Ahh. Inert masochism. Good on you pal.
it's ✨meditative✨
You couldve spent this time on disgaea
PLEASE don't give my stream chat any ideas
@@BRAVEGLASS 😈The worst pain would be 100% all disgaea games. now that's an idea to give them
@@ayayukio7608 Ah good. Another chaos-oriented commenter. 🙂
Solo Izanagi Only
think that one's already been done before and a pretty good video was made for it to boot, sooooo not much for me there.
appreciate the suggestions tho.
Gold shadows
absolutely, yeah
Poor guy didnt know how to camp gold hands.
if you're talking about going up a floor and then coming back down, which is all that seems to come up when I search for details about farming gold hands, I tried this for a good while and in my own testing it didn't seem any different from what I do now-- going down a floor and coming back up (saves time on opening the stairs door.)
If you're talking about something else, it'd be awesome to hear 👍
ok I saw the RagnarAlvarrGaming video (assuming this is what you were talking abaout.) I will try this ASAP.
It was only uploaded April this year and I'm not in any speedrunning community so I had no idea lol.
now that's a clickbait title I'm compelled to click on
sub to him
the big vouch 🙏
Can you tell me something? What are Yosuke's and Chie's max stats when you got them to level 99 in the first dungeon? I'm resolving an old curiosity of mine.
This is actually something that I can't answer yet; When I got to level 99 on Very Easy, I would let Chie and Yousuke die to reaper fights so that I could get more EXP faster, meaning on that save they're actually tens of thousands of experience points behind me.
They've died a few times on this new run too, but I'm almost done (Level 92 when writing this I think) and I'll be sure to push a little further to answer this question since I'm curious too lol.
@@BRAVEGLASS my reasons are that according the shin megami website, their max stats should be higher than the evidence I've found. I'm gonna use strength for example. It says that Jiraiya's max level strength is 72. Once you max social link Yosuke, his strength actually gains 3 points. So, Susanoo should have 75 strength. However, evidence I have found is that Susanoo at lvl 99 has 72 strength. Bear in mind, I'm not including equipment that boosts his stats or any of the stat boosts from the movie theater. I just want to know if the website is wrong. (P.s. did you know that Yukiko of all people loses a point in magic when you max social link her?)
Ok very cool, i have just one question though.
Why?
TL;DR: so I can say I did it.
see video below for further viewing:
> th-cam.com/users/shortsLgYMMXl0eR8?feature=share
It took just 2 days?!
I spent about two weeks on the very easy run, but yeah only 33 hours across however long you wanna spend in Yukiko's Castle.
For a comparison we've been in this very hard challenge forrrr like 3-4 months?
That´s one way of wasting your time i guess ;)
dont care, now try in Yosuke's dungeon
know any good modders
@@BRAVEGLASS I know a few….
Why?
See below :)
> th-cam.com/users/shortsLgYMMXl0eR8?feature=share
Uh
Imagine being this vain
Do I come across as vain in this video? I fully acknowledge just how meaningless and pathetic this challenge is-- I just have fun doing meaningless things.
@@BRAVEGLASS In the video you do, yes. You say that 33 hours of grinding will not get you recognition, so you will increase the difficulty and take 3x as long just to receive some internet cred. Also, doing "meaningless things" is kind of the definition of vanity. No hate here, if you like doing these sorts of things go for it, but this is how it comes across to me.
@@xdokaydokay571 Oh yeah, it's definitely for me and not for "internet cred." I'd finish the challenge if no one was watching. *I* wasn't satisfied with it, how the internet felt about it wasn't a factor, sorry if that wasn't clear.
@@xdokaydokay571 Also, I do feel like that's a pretty unfair definition of vanity. Doing meaningless things should only be vain if the only reason you do them is for your appearance. Otherwise, under that definition, the monks seem to be the most vain people to ever do it-- which doesn't feel right.
@@BRAVEGLASS Either way we're defining vanity on our own terms. You say vanity isn't vanity if you're getting enjoyment from it. I'm saying it's vanity because it's meaningless in the grand scheme of things. It's difficult to argue these kinds of things because we can define vanity however we like. I guess in the end all is vanity because we die at the end of our lives, but I'm not trying to get that philosophical over a persona 4 video. The only reason I made the comment is because you mentioned how 33 hours of "meaningless grinding" wasn't enough to satisfy you. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say 3x that much time spent grinding won't satisfy you either, so it seems a bit vain to do. Again, if you get enjoyment from it, like true enjoyment, go for it. We play video games for fun, and if you're having that, all power to you
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It's not impressive and you know it. Mindless repetition for a goal that is nonexistent is pure madness. Are you really wasting this much time for pride?? Imagine what could be accomplished in this time.
ok
I respect that you have the determination to do this, but good god, go do literally anything else and be remotely productive. Please, your family is begging you
I have a job. Part of the determination is working around that.
>I don't feel special enough, so I'm going to throw away another hundred hours
A little pathetic tbh
Agreed! 👍
what a massive waste of time just to be overleveled and overpowered for the rest of the game :I
wheres the fun in that?
where's the fun in living if we're all just gonna die
He's gotta a point.
Why?
See below:
> th-cam.com/users/shortsLgYMMXl0eR8?feature=share