You’re probably in a tent somewhere in hearty deer habitat right now. Awesomeness for sure. Just wanted to hopefully get the message to you and to others that come across this tuning segment. I watched the modified version and walked away feeling pretty bummed that I’ve done every type of tuning I’ve ever come across. This is by far the best centershot tune I’ve ever seen. I was bummed because I shoot daily wind rain hurricane idc. So I feel pretty good about my accuracy up until this video. So the next day I couldn’t wait to get modified. Now this sounds a little bragadocious but really I’m just stoked and proud of my results. Long story short I have no bow shop equipment or have I ever had a pro shop tune my bow. So string test, hit #1 arrow, broke string on second shot. 🤯 ran a perfectly plumb tape and moved back. ( this whole time thinking how dang accurate you were) 20 yards all 3 shots center tape. 🤯 what? So all I have is 30y in the yard I was in so that’s where I moved next thinking moving my rest was next. Well again to my amazement I was dead on again! Welp that was easy lol! So today I had to get out to 60 just because that’s what you did. Super windy today but rain or shine, warmed up at 30. Set up at 40 with my spotter and started groups inside 6”. Oh forgot to mention how much trust I gained in my equipment doing this the first day. I did need to make elevation changes to my pins but it’s micro adjust so knocked out 40 again 6” groups😳. Last 30 min out daylight I got out to 50 and man when that centershot is on point, it’s just a matter of me fine tuning my elevation using my pins. (Really didn’t want to mess with my rest just yet.) so thanks to your modified tune, I had 11 arrows in the center ring at 50 by sundown. Really help my confidence more than anything since now I know it’s me and not the bow tune. Long story but hey, thanks for the video posts! Great method.
Great video! I have relied solely on paper tuning for a long time and then cursed and sweared on the range pulling my hair out, when I couldn't get broadheads and FPs to fly true. Loved these three! And would love to watch more :)
@@SomewhereInWisconsin I will be sure to check it out :D Do you do any comparative videos on arrow flight in regard to release types, broadhead styles, vane orientation, etc.?
@@christianboel3183 I did an arrow building series on vane choice for my outdoor field arrows. Basically show how I built out an arrow and then tested some vanes out before I decided on what I chose.
@@christianboel3183 anytime! I do a lot more waterfowl hunting these days, but shoot my bow a ton during the off season including outdoor stuff and indoor stuff.
I love this approach and it makes a lot of sense, thank you! One question though please? If you don't papertune, how would you know that your arrows are not coming out tail high or low?
This series is awesome, probably watched it 3x theough while waiting on my arrows to arrive. To make sure I'm understanding... You french tune first, then paper tune? Presumably to nock tune arrows? Or are you not paper tuning at all, and going straight to walkback tuning after your 3/10 yard tune?
When I do this method I skip paper tuning. If you do a really good job with the Mod French tune, minimal adjustments woth walk back. Then I just turn nocks of arrows that are not grouping.
Love your videos!! Since you seem like a very knowledgeable guy to go to for questions I definitely have a couple. So last year I got a 2017 PSE Drive R very nice bow i was impressed with how it felt so i got it on a trade. A couple days after getting it I notice I was having problems staying consistent. I took it to a local bow tech and he did some work tuning it. Got the bow back he said the string stretched so instead of shooting 60lb I was at like 53lbs. That being said I hunted with it and while in the stand i noticed a splinter in one of the limbs. After that I hung it up. Fast forward to this summer. I got it in a bow shop he ordered new limbs for it I bought a custom string for it and he tuned it. Got it back eager to get sighted in I went to shoot it still was not accurate as I wanted it to be still all over the place at 20 yards!! I put more weight to the bow which helped alot. But when I put my slicktricks on they flew way different. I have been bow hunting for 9 years and know how I shoot. There's some variables that i think may help. This bow has a wiskerbiscuit all my other bows had qads, this bow I'm shooting 320 spine arrows when I usually shoot 400 spine arrow. Generally shoot 60-70lb my arrow length is 26 1/2in. Sorry if it's a book but its getting to the point where I'm going to get rid of it. I dont want to being all the money I've sank into it. Do you think I should get a dropaway rest and a set of 400spine arrows?
@@everythingoutdoors3486 At first thought, the 320s seem WAY to STIFF for 26", and 60lbs. What type of arrows? I'd start with getting new arrows, but if you tell me the brand I can let you know what spine to get.
Great video & I am going to try this out, I’ve got just one question. For me with a new to me bow and new arrow setup, how do I know arrow flight isn’t giving false results if I don’t paper tune first?
What's a false result? This is just an alternative way to tune. Once you complete the whole process, your arrows will be hitting in a vetical line for your walk back tune, which says youbare good to go!
@@SomewhereInWisconsin By false result, I mean an arrow coming off sideways that hits the string. Is that possible? I did some French tuning tonight. Tweaked both my rest & my sight. Shot quite a few arrows. Went through the string multiple times. Then went back to 40yds and shot probably my best four arrow group from that distance!
@@chrismartin5340 yes! You just the farther you move back the better. If arrows are hitting the same vertical.line you are good until it's time to broadhead tune.
@@SomewhereInWisconsin I believe by the end of this week I’m going to be ready to see which broadhead flies best off my arrows. This has been a fun journey. Thank you for your videos!
@@chrismartin5340 excellent. Know that in my broadhead tuning video I misspoke. If broad head is missing left of regar arrow, move rest slightly.left. not right.
Hi, thanks for the very detailed information. I am looking to buy micro adjusting arrow rest and sight, what are you using or what would you recommend. Thank you from Down Under Australia.
Hi Ken. I am shoot a limb driven drop away rest. This one is called a Hamskea. Vaportrail also makes one. As far as sights are concerned, there are so many. I have a CBE Quadlite 3d for my Winters and summers. Then for hunting Season I use a CBE Tek Hunter. It's a 3 pin slider sight.
I just set it to level ornslightly nock high. If it ends up that doesn't work, it shows it's face in broadhead tuning. Which I always do with my hunting setup right away anyway.
Hey Chris, this is a Truball HT3, medium. It's a hinge/back tension release. I enjoy shooting it, and I also hunt with this release. I suffered from target panic about 7 years ago, so I switched to a hinge and never looked back! It took a full year to really learn the hinge, but my shooting and scores increased in the first 6 months.
@@SomewhereInWisconsin Thank you, I appreciate the info. I think it will give me a better feel than the trufire trigger release I currently use. No issue of target panic here, thank goodness, just want it to be comfortable.
You’re probably in a tent somewhere in hearty deer habitat right now. Awesomeness for sure. Just wanted to hopefully get the message to you and to others that come across this tuning segment. I watched the modified version and walked away feeling pretty bummed that I’ve done every type of tuning I’ve ever come across. This is by far the best centershot tune I’ve ever seen. I was bummed because I shoot daily wind rain hurricane idc. So I feel pretty good about my accuracy up until this video. So the next day I couldn’t wait to get modified. Now this sounds a little bragadocious but really I’m just stoked and proud of my results. Long story short I have no bow shop equipment or have I ever had a pro shop tune my bow. So string test, hit #1 arrow, broke string on second shot. 🤯 ran a perfectly plumb tape and moved back. ( this whole time thinking how dang accurate you were) 20 yards all 3 shots center tape. 🤯 what? So all I have is 30y in the yard I was in so that’s where I moved next thinking moving my rest was next. Well again to my amazement I was dead on again! Welp that was easy lol! So today I had to get out to 60 just because that’s what you did. Super windy today but rain or shine, warmed up at 30. Set up at 40 with my spotter and started groups inside 6”. Oh forgot to mention how much trust I gained in my equipment doing this the first day. I did need to make elevation changes to my pins but it’s micro adjust so knocked out 40 again 6” groups😳. Last 30 min out daylight I got out to 50 and man when that centershot is on point, it’s just a matter of me fine tuning my elevation using my pins. (Really didn’t want to mess with my rest just yet.) so thanks to your modified tune, I had 11 arrows in the center ring at 50 by sundown. Really help my confidence more than anything since now I know it’s me and not the bow tune. Long story but hey, thanks for the video posts! Great method.
Thank you for the kind words! Glad you are more confident in your setup! Good luck this year!
Good luck to you as well!
Great job. Thanks for all the work you have shared in the 3 part videos.
Thanks! No problem!
Great video! I have relied solely on paper tuning for a long time and then cursed and sweared on the range pulling my hair out, when I couldn't get broadheads and FPs to fly true. Loved these three! And would love to watch more :)
Thank you Christian! Really appreciate it! I have some other archery diy and string building stuff on the channel. Hope you check it out!
@@SomewhereInWisconsin I will be sure to check it out :D Do you do any comparative videos on arrow flight in regard to release types, broadhead styles, vane orientation, etc.?
@@christianboel3183 I did an arrow building series on vane choice for my outdoor field arrows. Basically show how I built out an arrow and then tested some vanes out before I decided on what I chose.
@@SomewhereInWisconsinThanks! I'll check it out :D
@@christianboel3183 anytime! I do a lot more waterfowl hunting these days, but shoot my bow a ton during the off season including outdoor stuff and indoor stuff.
I love this approach and it makes a lot of sense, thank you! One question though please? If you don't papertune, how would you know that your arrows are not coming out tail high or low?
I typically run my arrow perfectly level, and haven't had issues. But...if it is off slightly, I will notice it when I broadhead tune at the end.
@@SomewhereInWisconsin thank you. Yes, broadhead tuning will show all the errors. Thank you again!
This series is awesome, probably watched it 3x theough while waiting on my arrows to arrive.
To make sure I'm understanding... You french tune first, then paper tune? Presumably to nock tune arrows? Or are you not paper tuning at all, and going straight to walkback tuning after your 3/10 yard tune?
When I do this method I skip paper tuning. If you do a really good job with the Mod French tune, minimal adjustments woth walk back. Then I just turn nocks of arrows that are not grouping.
Reason I skip paper tuning is because when I go to walk back I'll make minor adjustments anyways.
@@SomewhereInWisconsin thanks for clarifying!
Well done!
Hey thanks!
Love your videos!! Since you seem like a very knowledgeable guy to go to for questions I definitely have a couple. So last year I got a 2017 PSE Drive R very nice bow i was impressed with how it felt so i got it on a trade. A couple days after getting it I notice I was having problems staying consistent. I took it to a local bow tech and he did some work tuning it. Got the bow back he said the string stretched so instead of shooting 60lb I was at like 53lbs. That being said I hunted with it and while in the stand i noticed a splinter in one of the limbs. After that I hung it up. Fast forward to this summer. I got it in a bow shop he ordered new limbs for it I bought a custom string for it and he tuned it. Got it back eager to get sighted in I went to shoot it still was not accurate as I wanted it to be still all over the place at 20 yards!! I put more weight to the bow which helped alot. But when I put my slicktricks on they flew way different. I have been bow hunting for 9 years and know how I shoot. There's some variables that i think may help. This bow has a wiskerbiscuit all my other bows had qads, this bow I'm shooting 320 spine arrows when I usually shoot 400 spine arrow. Generally shoot 60-70lb my arrow length is 26 1/2in. Sorry if it's a book but its getting to the point where I'm going to get rid of it. I dont want to being all the money I've sank into it. Do you think I should get a dropaway rest and a set of 400spine arrows?
You shoot a 60lb bow right now correct?
@@SomewhereInWisconsin yes sir!
@@everythingoutdoors3486 At first thought, the 320s seem WAY to STIFF for 26", and 60lbs. What type of arrows? I'd start with getting new arrows, but if you tell me the brand I can let you know what spine to get.
@@SomewhereInWisconsin they are Easton fmj 6mm. I am considering switching to Easton axis.
@@everythingoutdoors3486 You on Instagram?
Great video & I am going to try this out, I’ve got just one question. For me with a new to me bow and new arrow setup, how do I know arrow flight isn’t giving false results if I don’t paper tune first?
What's a false result? This is just an alternative way to tune. Once you complete the whole process, your arrows will be hitting in a vetical line for your walk back tune, which says youbare good to go!
@@SomewhereInWisconsin
By false result, I mean an arrow coming off sideways that hits the string. Is that possible?
I did some French tuning tonight. Tweaked both my rest & my sight. Shot quite a few arrows. Went through the string multiple times. Then went back to 40yds and shot probably my best four arrow group from that distance!
@@chrismartin5340 yes! You just the farther you move back the better. If arrows are hitting the same vertical.line you are good until it's time to broadhead tune.
@@SomewhereInWisconsin
I believe by the end of this week I’m going to be ready to see which broadhead flies best off my arrows. This has been a fun journey. Thank you for your videos!
@@chrismartin5340 excellent. Know that in my broadhead tuning video I misspoke. If broad head is missing left of regar arrow, move rest slightly.left. not right.
Hi, thanks for the very detailed information. I am looking to buy micro adjusting arrow rest and sight, what are you using or what would you recommend. Thank you from Down Under Australia.
Hi Ken. I am shoot a limb driven drop away rest. This one is called a Hamskea. Vaportrail also makes one. As far as sights are concerned, there are so many. I have a CBE Quadlite 3d for my Winters and summers. Then for hunting Season I use a CBE Tek Hunter. It's a 3 pin slider sight.
Does colder temperatures around 20 to 40 degrees affect your accuracy when shooting a compound bow?
I would say not inside of 40 yards. Maybe at 50+? Not sure.
Since your not paper tuning , ho do you check your rest up and down ?
I just set it to level ornslightly nock high. If it ends up that doesn't work, it shows it's face in broadhead tuning. Which I always do with my hunting setup right away anyway.
I use a laser level from Home Depot for the line
Great idea!
I am thinking about changing up my release. What release do you use in this video?
Hey Chris, this is a Truball HT3, medium. It's a hinge/back tension release. I enjoy shooting it, and I also hunt with this release. I suffered from target panic about 7 years ago, so I switched to a hinge and never looked back! It took a full year to really learn the hinge, but my shooting and scores increased in the first 6 months.
@@SomewhereInWisconsin Thank you, I appreciate the info. I think it will give me a better feel than the trufire trigger release I currently use. No issue of target panic here, thank goodness, just want it to be comfortable.
What if at 10 yards your bow is hitting high
Don't worry about your highs and lows right now, but if you want to get it close, move your pin up.
What bow are you using??
I shoot and Elite Energy 35. 2016.