WWF and WCW both have shows in Los Angeles this week on the same night. WCW is treating it like an internet PPV and will be doing live audio commentary on their website (no video because, well, it's 1997. Think of how much of a pain in the ass live video streaming still is now sometimes, then subtract 20 years). They're also promising a confrontation (but not a match) between Hogan and Sting. As for WWF, their show will feature Bret Hart's return to the ring and a bikini contest with Sunny, Sable, Marlena, and Chyna. According to WWF officials, ticket sales are neck and neck, while WCW claims to be several thousand tickets ahead of WWF. Both sides are claiming that the other is heavily papering the shows. For what it's worth, Dave says that despite the perception that WWF is the #2 company, the truth is that they still consistently outdraw WCW on house shows. And the advance ticket sales for Summerslam, which is still over a month away, has already made more ticket money than WCW has ever made for any show
This was without a doubt the genesis of the wwf product taking off and becoming the attitude era.Brett Hart was just as important to that era as any other wrestler at the time.From summer slam to survivor series,most important time period for wwf...period.
One of my all-time favorite ppvs! Can't wait to hear Bruce talk about the chair shot that fueled the Bret vs Shawn rivalry before the Montreal Screw job! Time to dive in!
I remember this entire event. Every year it comes up on the 3rd i take time to reflect on the family memory of watching it. I'll always think of it as my favorite PPV event.
Same. I had stopped watching regularly and got hooked channel surfing on the Raw after the Rumble when I saw the intensity. Unfortunately the week of Summerslam we moved and the cable package did not include USA network. So I was stuck with WCW until we got DirectTV in 2001.
R.I.P. Brian Christopher. Every Tuesday night at the Louisville Gardens in the mid 90s, he entertained the shit out of me and even let me hold his USWA championship in the middle of the ring once for photos. That title was heavy as shit... or maybe I was just weak as fuck as a 12 yr old. Well.....you know
Maître Renard It was a common Hart family spot, starting with Dynamite Kid I think, he used to do the tilt a whirl off an Irish whip into a Tombstone or a back breaker It was used less as Undertaker became a more prominent fixture with using it as a finisher, but Owen used to do the spot IIRC Bad decision on Owen's part to drop to his butt instead of his knees though
Classic stuff right here! Great memories, always felt wwf was better during this time than 2000's and beyond even with a less stacked roster. Also, can you highlight at the abysmal In your house DX next?
Something no one ever mentions, did Owen Hart ever do a sit out piledriver like the one he did on Austin here? I can't say I remember him ever doing that move in any of the many matches I've seen of his.
He's done it in a few matches in Japan, and I'm 90% sure he's done it at least once in the WWF. I can more clearly remember him doing the jumping tombstone piledriver though.
I love Owen but it was an unnecessary spot. It wasnt going to make or break the match in concept and it progressed no sort of storyline or focal point...a chair shot with Anvil or Bulldog distracting the ref would have suffice enough.
He has done the sit-out piledriver a few times but I think he decided to do it at this show on the fly...he probably had Steve up and thought damn Taker is in the main so I'll do a sit-out style and boom
Really nice tributes from Bruce to those recently pasted away wrestlers at the start of this. Loved this episode. Some great stories and priceless impressions. This is surely one of the best ever Summerslam. I'd say top three along with 2002 and probably 91. 91 top to bottom isn't as good, but it's just one from my youth I enjoyed watching a lot and it has a bit of everything.
Must Conrad put a negative spin on everything?!!? WWE is a professional company and damn near everything they do has a polished clean look. Conrad talks down to them with his "you guys". Did he even like the product? If you actually listen to Meltzer shows from back in the day, you'll see he actually enjoys the show. The problem with STW is we get some weird mixed perspective of Conrad reading Meltzer, asking Bruce. It can be very frustrating and because Bruce often comes from a defensive stance, we don't get true accounts and straight answers.
If the nWo hadn’t taken over, I believe 1997 would be known as a landmark year for the WWF and they would have had better revenue and other key metrics
1997 was great year WWE was never close going out of business worst they been second ratings but they were beating WCW house show PPV buyrate and live gate
notice how conrad mentions how business increased in 1995 to 1996 and even more so in 1996 to 1997. Does anyone notice that prichard agrees but he never points out that it was bret doing
Another great show from the number 1 tag team going. Also everybody knows Bret screwed Bret that will never change. I'm still hoping you guys do an episode on the ruler of the world Sid
andrew berube How did Brett screw brett? Because vince couldn't pay him? Because offered to take less money to stay? Because he wouldn't drop the belt to someone who wouldn't put anyone else over?
Vince; Bret if its about the money go get the money and use me as leverage. 1 month later Vince; Bret, the only thing that is coming between us is Ted Turner's money. WTF?!?!
@something to wrestle with Bruce Prichard This summer slam chop cracks me up because I did one for myself, as well as summer slam 94 poster, etc..how can I submit my work for laughs? I can do some for yall as well
didn't know about the austin/chono in 1992 situation. but it was the same exact "botch" although Chono didn't suffer quite as severe an injury. you'd think steve might be a little forgiving of Hart knowing there was no intent and he'd made the same mistake
it's all alabama has...they are dead last in every -like Conrad likes to say-Metric...plus, according to Bruno-it's the gay capital of America. th-cam.com/video/nSTukGu-Ut4/w-d-xo.html
*Once again I have TH-cam Red & ONLY on this channel whenever I turn off my phone's screen the video shuts off! Recently I got a comment blaming Dave Meltzer..starting to believe it now!* 🤔😂
One thing these podcast failed to mention when they talk about the Monday night war is fans in the West Coast had the chance to watch both raw and Nitro because nitro was on TNT so it was broadcast at 5 PM on the West Coast raw was on 9pm and then they moved it an hour early to 8pm I never really hear them talk about that that’s something that should be talked about
Chris Terry they already had a professional match at Survivor Series 96 and they had a no holds barred match at Wrestlemania 13. You think the fans would wanna see another professional match? On the other hand... Shawn & Bret have a real feud & they never had a special stipulation match yet. That would happen at Wrestlemania 14. Hell in the cell probably to keep hart foundation & dx out. Shawn has a way of making matches memorable as well as Bret.
TheMadStork83 Your talking storyline wise. How will the match be though?? It’s gonna be the same that you saw in Survivor Series 96 & Wrestlemania 13 combined. Let me ask you this...Stone cold vs. undertaker...classic match or HBK vs. undertaker? My point is hbk knows how to impact a match especially with boring wrestlers like a Bret, diesel, hogan, tic flair who do the same shit.
Yeah I would have also loved to seen Austin vs Hart 3 at WM 14 for reasons already mentioned. Idk who that would have put HBK against. Maybe it could have been a triple threat.
TheMadStork83 Actually, a WM 14 match between Austin and Bret would've been Austin vs Hart IV, their 3rd match took place after WM 13 at IYH: Revenge Of The Taker, that's if you don't count their no holds barred RAW match after the IYH match The IYH match is underrated I think, it deserves more credit and even while it's lesser than their first 2 ppv matches, it's a worthy addition to the Austin vs Hart legacy...for me it's on par with the famous Steamboat vs Flair trilogy I would've loved to see Austin finally get a big clean win on Bret at WM 14 to give their feud the proper ending it deserved, pass the torch properly to Austin leading into the Stone Cold era, it would've been much better than what we ended up getting, and it made more sense
@2:08:20 bruce gets caught looking stupid for claiming hbk would’ve put Bret over after being told point blank by conrad that he refused to do it at WM13.
I don't remember Austin being ALL TOGETHER booed in Canada. Shawn Michaels, yes, they hated him, but Austin was more split. Maybe against the Harts more so, but even then I remember the crowd digging Austin in Canada. Never michaels though and he fed into their hate.
@@aaronjackson9385 Survivor Series 97 was in Montreal, dude. You know, the entire reason there's a thing called the MONTREAL Screwjob. You're getting it confused with Summerslam 97 which was in East Rutherford, NJ.
Of course it was a work lmao. Just look at all the angles they ran afterwards. Bret being ''screwed'' was a major major storyline before and after. Nobody got screwed!! they all made out like gang busters.
Ill never forget that night i was there live that night was impotant to stone colds career because once he wasnt able to wrestle he was able to buold on personality while clashing with the evil mr mcmahon
I don't think Owen ever recovered. I don't mean career wise, but mentally. D-Lo commented on his psyche that it broke him in the ring. He was scared to go in the ring and kayfabe beat people up out of fear of actually hurting someone.
I really have to give Bruce props, like so many others he's done a stellar job of keeping the lid on the Montreal Screwjob work. What kind of compensation do you think they get for taking that oath of silence?
@@TheeCoachg i think it might be just between vince and bret.....if it is a work...rest assured if it wasnt a work-bret is a dumbass for going out there with vince walking around the whole match-vince was always announcing those days during an event..
The Truth Commission - What a weird idea that came from Bret. Another crazy idea, Martel and Callis in a model tag team, that would have been awesome though.
Bruce mentions how he always asks talent if their contracted before he has a conversation with them. If the wwf couldn't do business unless the talent could be 100% committed to wwf, why was the belt put on hart in the first place.
Because Bret was already signed to the WWF and under contract. He was under contract when he was given the belt. What you're referencing has to do with legality not commitment. An example would be when they signed Ron Simmons. Bruce tried to sign Ron Simmons but never could because during their conversations, Simmons was under contract to WCW. Legally, Simmons cannot talk to another promotion while under a WCW contract. There is a window when a Wrestler under contract by another promotion can legally speak to other promotions and look for offers. This is how Simmons reached a deal to sign with WWF. Prichard asked for the WCW contract to make sure that Simmons legally had it in writing by WCW that he was able to seek other offers during the end of his contract. Commitment has nothing to due with the legality and the conditions of a contract.
This was a good pay per view. I loved the WWF Championship match. I was nervous with them trying to tell multiple stories at once and the match would be a mess. I think sometimes people forgot who good Bret was as a singles wrestler. He and Undertaker had great chemistry those 2 told a great story. I cant believe Vince mixed business with politics after the steel cage match. To me, he needed to do something to stall while they were taking down the steel cage. He was kissing the governors ass for bringing WWF back to New Jersey. That million dollar contest was so rigged it sucked. I knew when Bruce said they had no intentions on giving away a million dollars. Although, I would have laughed if somebody had picked the right key cause they would have had to pay them. Vince was panicking cause he wanted Bret to finish his career in WWF. He was nervous as hell after losing Scott and Kevin to WCW he didnt want to lose no more top caliber superstars.
the guy wanted wwe to hire steve and wanted to work with steve. he put over patriot clean and refused ot beat rock. not saying he perfect but most part he helped more people then buried . he got edge and test a job in wwe
14:55 is when summerslam talk starts.
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Bruce Prichard calling Micky Mouse an asshole made my day.
I listen to these podcast while fishing. Good stuff, and I haven’t watched wrestling since 2001. I’m just an old school wrestling fan!
Mr. Jay what u caught for dinner jay
Awesome my friend 🎣
WWF and WCW both have shows in Los Angeles this week on the same night. WCW is treating it like an internet PPV and will be doing live audio commentary on their website (no video because, well, it's 1997. Think of how much of a pain in the ass live video streaming still is now sometimes, then subtract 20 years). They're also promising a confrontation (but not a match) between Hogan and Sting. As for WWF, their show will feature Bret Hart's return to the ring and a bikini contest with Sunny, Sable, Marlena, and Chyna. According to WWF officials, ticket sales are neck and neck, while WCW claims to be several thousand tickets ahead of WWF. Both sides are claiming that the other is heavily papering the shows. For what it's worth, Dave says that despite the perception that WWF is the #2 company, the truth is that they still consistently outdraw WCW on house shows. And the advance ticket sales for Summerslam, which is still over a month away, has already made more ticket money than WCW has ever made for any show
As a kid and a huge Hitman fan, this mainevent is etched in my mind for life.
Me too. I remember all the promo leading up to that match. Bret Hart saying he would never wrestle in the USA if he lost
This is by far the best wrestling podcast out there! You guys are doing awesome!
whw is
Awesome awesome Choice fellas I've been waiting for this one for a while thank you so much for making time go by fast bros :-)
I love hearing Bruce relive the good old days. It's great to hear the real behind the scenes stories from a guy who was actually there.
Exactly
Just rewatched this Summerslam yesterday.. VERY UNDER RATED GREAT SHOW IN MY OPINION!!
Bruce’s Jim Cornette impression is so freaking hilarious
It really does sound like Mickey mouse lol
Especially when he says motherf**ker😂😂
It sounds like Terry funk RIP
My second favorite impression after Vince. That Stu Hart impression kills me every time. I’d put it third.
Be funnier if Cornette wasn't a Biden apologist
When Bret spits in Shawns face after mouthing f*** you, before Shawn hits Taker, just gold. 1997 was the most believable year in WWE
So true!
This was without a doubt the genesis of the wwf product taking off and becoming the attitude era.Brett Hart was just as important to that era as any other wrestler at the time.From summer slam to survivor series,most important time period for wwf...period.
My favourite finish of all time. Booked really well!
Kevin Brideau Absolutely!
One of my all-time favorite ppvs! Can't wait to hear Bruce talk about the chair shot that fueled the Bret vs Shawn rivalry before the Montreal Screw job! Time to dive in!
SKIP TO 3:50 TO AVOID THE AD TALK AND GO RIGHT TO THE SHOW :V
;9:33 TO SKIP THE UPCOMING SHOW STUFF TOO V:
Chris Michael and miss tony you got to be kidding me
Shane Canning can't miss Tantalizing Tony
@Chris Michael ( Skip to 9:33) Thank You...
the80sguy no thanks
I remember this entire event. Every year it comes up on the 3rd i take time to reflect on the family memory of watching it. I'll always think of it as my favorite PPV event.
Man , i can listen to these shows all day
Amazing summer line up ahead, I popped for the graphic alone great job. Roll tide.
One of my favorite PPV events of all time. I love anything and everything WWF 1997.
Bashcrash 914
Agreed - 97 was so dang epic
Same. I had stopped watching regularly and got hooked channel surfing on the Raw after the Rumble when I saw the intensity. Unfortunately the week of Summerslam we moved and the cable package did not include USA network. So I was stuck with WCW until we got DirectTV in 2001.
Agreed. But why where the rating so bad?
Wrestling in general was so great in 97
This Summerslam was the one where i fell back in love with wrestling after a 5 year hiatus. So it holds a special place in my heart.
Jaems Harilie Me too!
It was Sid and Vader originally... pretty sure there was even a promo "vs" graphic for the match and it was mentioned on a raw
R.I.P. Brian Christopher. Every Tuesday night at the Louisville Gardens in the mid 90s, he entertained the shit out of me and even let me hold his USWA championship in the middle of the ring once for photos. That title was heavy as shit... or maybe I was just weak as fuck as a 12 yr old. Well.....you know
I loved the whole 95-97 era. Hitman FOREVER
And again bruce and conrad are undefeated with cover photo themes.
looks like Steve Corino..I wish they would do a ecw podcast show just to see conrad dressed as Joel Gertner..since he looks a lot like him
Prichard is in love with HBK
It cost more to watch Starrcast than Wrestlemania. Illuminati confirmed.
I love the shows. They are perfect for my cycling commute.
Coldest screen name smh 😅😅
seriously though, this is when I knew WWF had the better product ..
Ben Ashworth no doubt
A Dennis Rodman story....how 90s is that.
Love what u guys doing here I'm a big fan of the good ol days of wrestling...
I am glad Pillman got to fight on a real PPV. Even in much much pain he performed to a high level. The guy could barley walk.
i personally think his matches with Goldust at Summerslam and Ground Zero were pretty good
Mecha Shadow his ground zero match was great
Why would they do the Tombstone piledriver (and kick out at two) when it's Taker's finisher?
Maître Renard It was a common Hart family spot, starting with Dynamite Kid I think, he used to do the tilt a whirl off an Irish whip into a Tombstone or a back breaker
It was used less as Undertaker became a more prominent fixture with using it as a finisher, but Owen used to do the spot IIRC
Bad decision on Owen's part to drop to his butt instead of his knees though
Thank you love the show jacked to listen to the new show. You guys are nature funny with great story's.
William morey
Classic stuff right here! Great memories, always felt wwf was better during this time than 2000's and beyond even with a less stacked roster. Also, can you highlight at the abysmal In your house DX next?
Bruce always gets me to crack up with his Cornette impressions lmao! I love it!!
2:27:11 I've never heard Bruce do such a good Hogan impression. Is that really Bruce?
I think it's actually Hogan...and I remember seeing Hogan do a Macho Man impression so I'm pretty sure it was real Hulk.
My 3rd favorite SummerSlam ever. 2002,1992,1997.
I just went back and watched this after listening to the show. Conrad is spot-on with his description of Sunny. Wow!!!
Something no one ever mentions, did Owen Hart ever do a sit out piledriver like the one he did on Austin here? I can't say I remember him ever doing that move in any of the many matches I've seen of his.
He's done it in a few matches in Japan, and I'm 90% sure he's done it at least once in the WWF. I can more clearly remember him doing the jumping tombstone piledriver though.
I love Owen but it was an unnecessary spot. It wasnt going to make or break the match in concept and it progressed no sort of storyline or focal point...a chair shot with Anvil or Bulldog distracting the ref would have suffice enough.
He didn't want to do the "69 style" piledriver where he falls to his knees.
He has done the sit-out piledriver a few times but I think he decided to do it at this show on the fly...he probably had Steve up and thought damn Taker is in the main so I'll do a sit-out style and boom
Really nice tributes from Bruce to those recently pasted away wrestlers at the start of this. Loved this episode. Some great stories and priceless impressions. This is surely one of the best ever Summerslam. I'd say top three along with 2002 and probably 91. 91 top to bottom isn't as good, but it's just one from my youth I enjoyed watching a lot and it has a bit of everything.
Must Conrad put a negative spin on everything?!!? WWE is a professional company and damn near everything they do has a polished clean look. Conrad talks down to them with his "you guys". Did he even like the product? If you actually listen to Meltzer shows from back in the day, you'll see he actually enjoys the show. The problem with STW is we get some weird mixed perspective of Conrad reading Meltzer, asking Bruce. It can be very frustrating and because Bruce often comes from a defensive stance, we don't get true accounts and straight answers.
shiv .s it's a fans perspective. Do you actually listen to the podcast?
Mike The Scott I love the concept. It's just the way some of the questions are posed.
Conrad is representing smarks at the time. Don't shoot the messenger.
@@DCDPM I wouldnt say brilliant..now somebody like sean oliver is brilliant
This show is in my top ten. One of my favorite years of wwe. Raw was great and the ppvs were solid just about every month
that thumbnail.brothertaker.
Conrad hitman Thompson.
Conrad looks like Dave Grohl!!
1997 was the second greatest year ever in Pro Wrestling, both companies, WWF, and WCW, And ECW, The Best Ever year imo, 1989.
This ppv made alot in live gate
Goddamn am I a huge mark for Tony. Dude is undeniably hilarious and just a good guy. Bruce is ok though.
If the nWo hadn’t taken over, I believe 1997 would be known as a landmark year for the WWF and they would have had better revenue and other key metrics
1997 was great year WWE was never close going out of business worst they been second ratings but they were beating WCW house show PPV buyrate and live gate
notice how conrad mentions how business increased in 1995 to 1996 and even more so in 1996 to 1997. Does anyone notice that prichard agrees but he never points out that it was bret doing
Another great show from the number 1 tag team going. Also everybody knows Bret screwed Bret that will never change. I'm still hoping you guys do an episode on the ruler of the world Sid
andrew berube How did Brett screw brett? Because vince couldn't pay him? Because offered to take less money to stay? Because he wouldn't drop the belt to someone who wouldn't put anyone else over?
Only 90's children who did not watch WWF in 1997 and only hear the "WWF revised history" story think Bret screwed Bret
@@chadjustice8560 because he wouldn't lose in Canada..
Vince; Bret if its about the money go get the money and use me as leverage.
1 month later
Vince; Bret, the only thing that is coming between us is Ted Turner's money.
WTF?!?!
Who does the voiceover for summerslam 1997
@something to wrestle with Bruce Prichard
This summer slam chop cracks me up because I did one for myself, as well as summer slam 94 poster, etc..how can I submit my work for laughs? I can do some for yall as well
I remember buying this magazine and framing the cover. Best cover art for a WWF paper view ever. Team HITMAN
''paper view'' wtf? paper view?? 😂
@@rowds he drew it on paper and viewed it that way whats wrong with that?🤷😉
Rodman was at WCW Bash at Beach in 1995, even before Bulls era.
Hopefully, you guys will do WrestleMania 21 soon.
Love the music instrumentals they use... just perfect
Ikr? I started rapping that wu tang duck seazon instrumental when it came on
What was that Starrcast price again?
Rip off is the real cost
too fucking much..
Hope to see you guys in ATL soon!!
"BAH GAWD IT'S FACTION MAYHEM!"
"Calm down, Pal."
Well you know...Not sure when we'll talk about this again!
my favourite ppv!
didn't know about the austin/chono in 1992 situation. but it was the same exact "botch" although Chono didn't suffer quite as severe an injury. you'd think steve might be a little forgiving of Hart knowing there was no intent and he'd made the same mistake
What does roll Tide mean and when Bruce does impression its right on makes you laugh Vince Jim Paul Michael its like your in the room
William Morey
It's Alabama's College Football team's warcry.
William Borey
it's all alabama has...they are dead last in every -like Conrad likes to say-Metric...plus, according to Bruno-it's the gay capital of America. th-cam.com/video/nSTukGu-Ut4/w-d-xo.html
*Once again I have TH-cam Red & ONLY on this channel whenever I turn off my phone's screen the video shuts off! Recently I got a comment blaming Dave Meltzer..starting to believe it now!* 🤔😂
Shane Gentzler I'm dead rn ... #FDM
Fuck dave meltzer
Had it happen for me too....but not this week.
They use music they don't own.
Wow, love the new backgrounds
Love the picture.
Love this podcast, love the subject, loved that ppv, the visual however makes me wanna throw my phone across the room
One thing these podcast failed to mention when they talk about the Monday night war is fans in the West Coast had the chance to watch both raw and Nitro because nitro was on TNT so it was broadcast at 5 PM on the West Coast raw was on 9pm and then they moved it an hour early to 8pm I never really hear them talk about that that’s something that should be talked about
First WWF paperview party I hosted at my house. First WCW was souled out 97. Always went to a friends house for other events.
Til then. After this I started buying all the PPVs if no one else was hosting them.
I was there live. You can see in Wrestling with shadows with San Jose sharks jersey chanting USA before the show.
Where I've seen wrestling with Shadows but haven't seen you there
I wish Vince could’ve ended Bret’s contract at wrestle mania 14....the main event between Shawn & Bret would be epic
Chris Terry they already had a professional match at Survivor Series 96 and they had a no holds barred match at Wrestlemania 13. You think the fans would wanna see another professional match? On the other hand... Shawn & Bret have a real feud & they never had a special stipulation match yet. That would happen at Wrestlemania 14. Hell in the cell probably to keep hart foundation & dx out. Shawn has a way of making matches memorable as well as Bret.
TheMadStork83 Your talking storyline wise. How will the match be though?? It’s gonna be the same that you saw in Survivor Series 96 & Wrestlemania 13 combined. Let me ask you this...Stone cold vs. undertaker...classic match or HBK vs. undertaker? My point is hbk knows how to impact a match especially with boring wrestlers like a Bret, diesel, hogan, tic flair who do the same shit.
HBK oversold everything and acted like a fairy
Yeah I would have also loved to seen Austin vs Hart 3 at WM 14 for reasons already mentioned. Idk who that would have put HBK against. Maybe it could have been a triple threat.
TheMadStork83 Actually, a WM 14 match between Austin and Bret would've been Austin vs Hart IV, their 3rd match took place after WM 13 at IYH: Revenge Of The Taker, that's if you don't count their no holds barred RAW match after the IYH match
The IYH match is underrated I think, it deserves more credit and even while it's lesser than their first 2 ppv matches, it's a worthy addition to the Austin vs Hart legacy...for me it's on par with the famous Steamboat vs Flair trilogy
I would've loved to see Austin finally get a big clean win on Bret at WM 14 to give their feud the proper ending it deserved, pass the torch properly to Austin leading into the Stone Cold era, it would've been much better than what we ended up getting, and it made more sense
THUMBNAIL IS EPIC
Fantastic SummerSlam
I was not ready for the Minnie Mouse is a whore part at 41:07 and spit my damn dinner out laughing.
Exzilibus this had me and my wife laughing so hard lmaoo
Oh his Corny impression is priceless! Love his shooting on Mickey!!
"If life were fair........."
"Eahhhhh, that big fucking rhino, vince can ya put the big fucking rhino in and do something"
@2:08:20 bruce gets caught looking stupid for claiming hbk would’ve put Bret over after being told point blank by conrad that he refused to do it at WM13.
I love that Halifax '97 RAW is WAR. Just wild.
Stone Cold was actually told to stop wrestling before the match at SummerSlam because of his neck injury
I don't remember Austin being ALL TOGETHER booed in Canada. Shawn Michaels, yes, they hated him, but Austin was more split. Maybe against the Harts more so, but even then I remember the crowd digging Austin in Canada. Never michaels though and he fed into their hate.
That Austin was all together a hero in Canada is pure narrative.
Heel**
He got cheered big when he beat Owen for the IC title again at Survivor Series 97, so it is just a myth.
@@GorditoCrunch343 what? That was in America. Why wouldnt he get cheered in New Jersey??
@@aaronjackson9385 Survivor Series 97 was in Montreal, dude. You know, the entire reason there's a thing called the MONTREAL Screwjob. You're getting it confused with Summerslam 97 which was in East Rutherford, NJ.
I was dying when he cuts the promo on Mickey Mouse!!
Y'all should definitely do an episode on Kane soon since his career is pretty much over now.
Mike The Scott what are you talking about?
and the NEWWW mayor of Knoxville, Tennessee...
Matthew Jones he wrestled last week Matthew -__-
I just wanna know did Vince cut Bret’s contract because he wanted to bring Tyson in? And use that money for Tyson.
go figure Bret said "if you screw me out the title..." I see why people think this was a work
Of course it was a work lmao. Just look at all the angles they ran afterwards. Bret being ''screwed'' was a major major storyline before and after. Nobody got screwed!! they all made out like gang busters.
Ill never forget that night i was there live that night was impotant to stone colds career because once he wasnt able to wrestle he was able to buold on personality while clashing with the evil mr mcmahon
Bruce "The WWE Apologist" Prichard
That notice on the bottom never bothered me at the end of the show. Cuz I knew this was the moment the show was gonna heat up n clinch u back then.
I was a 9 year old in attendance..used to love wwf.. My older brother still orders the big PPVs lol
I don't think Owen ever recovered. I don't mean career wise, but mentally. D-Lo commented on his psyche that it broke him in the ring. He was scared to go in the ring and kayfabe beat people up out of fear of actually hurting someone.
Meltzer giving something 3 stars does not means he loves it.
I really have to give Bruce props, like so many others he's done a stellar job of keeping the lid on the Montreal Screwjob work. What kind of compensation do you think they get for taking that oath of silence?
i thought they hooked up with wwe in recent months, maybe that is it.
Its the last great work of the wrestling business. Only thing that hasnt been “exposed” in podcast/shoot land.
@@TheeCoachg i think it might be just between vince and bret.....if it is a work...rest assured if it wasnt a work-bret is a dumbass for going out there with vince walking around the whole match-vince was always announcing those days during an event..
13:42 to hear a coke zero being popped during a condolence speech
Or a Miller
Bruce the bitch
according to Conrad, he has only seen Bruce drink twice-even though Bruce cracks open a a couple of beers EVERY .SINGLE. PODCAST...
I listened to that a few times laughing my ass off
John Lovelace Bruce is a kiss ass bitch
Every time. The art is great! #GhostBruce #BruceErTaker
The Truth Commission - What a weird idea that came from Bret. Another crazy idea, Martel and Callis in a model tag team, that would have been awesome though.
Bruce mentions how he always asks talent if their contracted before he has a conversation with them. If the wwf couldn't do business unless the talent could be 100% committed to wwf, why was the belt put on hart in the first place.
Because Bret was already signed to the WWF and under contract. He was under contract when he was given the belt. What you're referencing has to do with legality not commitment. An example would be when they signed Ron Simmons. Bruce tried to sign Ron Simmons but never could because during their conversations, Simmons was under contract to WCW. Legally, Simmons cannot talk to another promotion while under a WCW contract. There is a window when a Wrestler under contract by another promotion can legally speak to other promotions and look for offers. This is how Simmons reached a deal to sign with WWF. Prichard asked for the WCW contract to make sure that Simmons legally had it in writing by WCW that he was able to seek other offers during the end of his contract. Commitment has nothing to due with the legality and the conditions of a contract.
Pikkon89 chat me up , how you got into the business ?
Don Callis as the Jackal very underrated imo he should have been the higher power
Maybe Owen was afraid he'd piss the Undertaker off if he dropped to his knees for the tombstone
This was a good pay per view. I loved the WWF Championship match. I was nervous with them trying to tell multiple stories at once and the match would be a mess. I think sometimes people forgot who good Bret was as a singles wrestler. He and Undertaker had great chemistry those 2 told a great story. I cant believe Vince mixed business with politics after the steel cage match. To me, he needed to do something to stall while they were taking down the steel cage. He was kissing the governors ass for bringing WWF back to New Jersey. That million dollar contest was so rigged it sucked. I knew when Bruce said they had no intentions on giving away a million dollars. Although, I would have laughed if somebody had picked the right key cause they would have had to pay them. Vince was panicking cause he wanted Bret to finish his career in WWF. He was nervous as hell after losing Scott and Kevin to WCW he didnt want to lose no more top caliber superstars.
Snow White and the Seven Little People
I was there the night Bret said to stick the hose in Pittsburgh. lol
We need a Lesnar episode.
We need an Andre episode
Bret ended up becoming the guy that he rallied against when he was on his way up - the veteran who is always worried about his spot.
the guy wanted wwe to hire steve and wanted to work with steve. he put over patriot clean and refused ot beat rock. not saying he perfect but most part he helped more people then buried . he got edge and test a job in wwe