I would have liked it better if it was a '1 wish per citizen' rule so you'd have a more spread out age group of people who want their wishes granted. Many people would be cautious and safe up their wish for something really important and only a couple of wishes were granted each year because of this. But what if a natural disaster strikes and a lot of people are suddenly wounded and homeless etc and all the people who haven't used their wish yet come flocking to the king to heal their injuries or fix their houses and their shops. If magic itself corrupts you if you use it too much then you could still have a benevolent king who accidentally turned evil because he truly wanted to help out his people. You could also have a fun point with the grandpa who, at a hundred years old, still never had his wish granted because he had saved his up. At the end the king would lose his magic and Asha can lament that despite he efforts into fixing everything her grandpa's wish could never be granted. It could be a nice moment where he could tell her that he had a beautiful fulfilling life and he didn't need a magical wish to make it so. Bonus points if he tells her that in a crowd so that other people hear it and learn this important lesson as well. Yeah I put too much thought into this
@@Cheshiregrinn91 the fact that if disney went with your idea then the movie undoubtedly would have been WAY more of a success is crazy to think about
And that’s why in some European countries, they’ve changed the name! Oh how I wished it would had an alternate title like « Star » « Desire » or « Hope » for avoiding any confusion with *Wish: The Online Shop website* and yes Asha means Hope in Indian. 🇮🇳
@@bracken8782 When Frozen came out a decade ago in 2013, most countries kept Frozen while in Nordic countries it was called Frost but some European countries used The Snow Queen original title that it was meant to be.
It's interesting you mention how quiet the children were in the theatre, because this was my experience when I saw the debut. When I saw Wish in the cinema, the audience was dead silent, it was an eerie experience, I have never experienced an Disney film with such a quiet crowd, even the children the were silent, that pretty much sums up the utter ineptitude that Wish achieved. Funny enough, Chris Pine had started in the Dungeons and Dragons film earlier this year, and it had better fairytale storytelling, magical elements, and practical effects, things would make Faerun come alive, Wish pales in comparison to the menagerie of the D&D film, and past animated Disney films.
Still can’t believe that they actually had a good idea for this movie. In the art book, the queen and the king were supposed to be villains. So that would make them the first Disney villain couple. the star was going to be a star boy that helps the girl and they both, slowly fall in love. And the designs looks so much better, but they threw all that way.
at my movie I watched a girl who was so passionate at the beginning (literally raising her hand when the kings asked "who wants their wish granted"), to being restless and bored half-way through 🙃 I really want to call Wish "baby's first disney movie" but I don't even think kids deserve Wish when other disney movies exist
@@TSMSnation kids don't have good attention spans to begin with, they're not necessarily 'iPad babies' for being bored halfway through a movie that's widely panned as downright bad.
At this point Disney has just completely forgotten about the saying *”quality over quantity.”* Did you know that the writers at Disney were once given 6 whole months to write out a story? Why have film companies just completely forgotten about that it doesn’t matter how long it takes to make a film, all that matters is that the film turns out good! If a movie is good, it’s likely that people are gonna watch it! Many people today don’t care as much anymore about deadlines, THEY JUST WANNA SEE A GOOD MOVIE!! Plus it gets people all the more hyped up when the movie does eventually come out! The only way Disney can save themselves now is if they just stop, take a step back, and reevaluate everything and start fresh. Because what they’ve been doing is getting exhausting to watch.
6 months is an insane amount of time especially given how they were pressured by executives and marketing to change the movie around anyway. We could have had a human star, which would have given some great character moments with Asha, but noooooo. They wanted to be able to sell plushies of star. I hope Disney revamps their formula it just isn't working when movies like Spiderverse, The Bad Guys, TMNT, and Puss and Boots are showing out.
The older movies are extremely re-watchable and so charming it's no wonder people wanted to buy all kinds of stuff related to them. They were fun, endearing and sometimes horrible things happened because it was needed for the story. This sounds so... bad.
They should have had Asha be the villain. A Disney movie from the villain's perspective. He's only granting wishes that help the kingdom much to his frustration but he granted a few wishes that hurt people, maybe even ended his brother's life. Imagine how cool that would be. So she's trying to find a way to give everyone what they want and he's trying to stop her and keep the kingdom from falling apart. You could even have a redemption arc as she realized she was the one in the.....oh, that's why they went with a half arsed lazy plot with enough holes to drive a mack truck through.
Honestly, that sounds like a REALLY GOOD plot and could have a lot of character development! Asha believing she's helping people by granting their wishes but not knowing how dangerous it is to do so without any consideration, and the king trying to convince her she's doing the wrong thing and wish granting could ultimately lead to chaos. Then maybe Asha could realize not all wishes are good and the king could let go of the trauma caused by his brother's death. Idk- I just really love how much more complex character you gave to the blank canvases of "characters" presented to us in the movie lol Great story idea 👍 very creative
@@Bear_Song Thank you. It's ultimately just a little tweak of the Disney formula. Really, stories should teach lessons and the greatest lessons are it's OK to be wrong and to forgive yourself no matter how big the mistake. That's where I started from.
You know that was a running theme of the Kurbe games right? (As in pink ball with vacuum apatite) The hero thinks they're doing good, only to find the 'antagonist' was preventing a worse threat from escaping and the real villein appears.
I kind of thought that’s how it was going to go just from the scene they released when he tells her that he holds onto certain wishes and she was pushing the whole “everyone deserves there wish”. I can’t even tell you the plot
if you look at one of the original plotlines, it features a mute star boy and how he has a romance with asha and it was really cute; it felt a lot like rapunzel and it would've been really interesting and inclusive. it pisses me off SO MUCH that disney threw that out for the sake of their formula, instead of trying to bring something new to their movies (especially for their 100th anniversary movie).
I feel like actually making the titular Disney Wishing Star a legit Pinocchio-style character would have been a perfect 100 year anniversary idea, especially with how prominent the song is in Disney's history.
the premise itself of the protagonist wanting to grant everyone's wish just spells a whole lot of trouble. Imagine if someone just wanted to see the world burn and she grants that, NGL i would love to see that plot twist and make her the Antagonist of her own story.
If Bruce Almighty taught us anything, it's that you can't always get what you want. Because if everyone gets their wish granted or prayer answered, it would be absolute chaos and society would collapse.
Reminds me of the "yes to all prayers" scene in Bruce Almighty. Bruce eventually gives up trying to dedicate time to each prayer and it _immediately_ backfires within a day.
Not gonna lie, the first time i heard that this movie even EXISTS was in the last video Dazz did where he mentioned that he couldn't watch it yet. Othere than that i have never even heard of this movie.
I think the biggest fix for this movie, is turning the book into its own character. The evil magic book. And I’m not even joking. I think Disney could have had it both ways. Make Magnifico an understanding and slightly narcissistic villain who ultimately cares about his people, while also giving him a tragic backstory, and a redemption arc at the end. Meanwhile, making the book into its own character can introduce Magnifico to the wonders of dark magic and be deliciously evil, because unlike the King, it doesn’t care about its people. Fact is, it doesn’t care about anyone, it was trapped in a display case for who knows how long.
@@galacticmoonwolf8462holy moly i was just gonna suggest that movie! Same on that the book was creepy af lol. Ironically a care bears movie had bettet plot than a Disney movie...
Yeah exactly. Ive heard other people say this but I'm gonna repeat it cause it just fits so well. Once upon a studio is like the Walt Disney Animation studio's 100 anniversary project. Wish is like the Disney Corporation's 100 anniversary project.
That short is the best thing they have made in years. And it's only because it's 1.) Done in different styles with many of them 2D 2.) Has plenty of classic characters characterized faithfully 3.) Has characters interact off each other in interesting ways that make for a fun short
Princess and the frog did better even tho its main theme is not wishing but rather that be careful what you wish for and its have a legendary quote that "You wish and you dream with all your heart. But remember, that old star can only take you part of the way. You got to help it with some hard work of your own." Soo what the actual heck happened to you disney?
It'd have been a better plot point if Asha was already an apprentice to Magnifico at the beginning of it. She idolizes him, is convinced of his cause and smooth talks the citizen in a "No worries! Magnifico can solve anything! Just wish for it!" But then she slowly wakes up and createw conflict yadayadayada. But her doing an interview and immediately gets told the most secret of things is weird
Spoilers below...just warning you Walt Disney himself was famous for cutting things out, which had already been animated because he wasn't happy with the story. in fact he was almost ruthless with it, and he taught the ones coming up, to have that element of changing things which were not working look at Beauty and the Beast, and "Be our guest," which was written for Maurice when he came to the castle, until they realised that it was being wasted on him, and needed to be Belle instead. they removed the cell of Maurice, and reanimated it for Belle because they realised that it worked better whilst it was being animated! (this is an edit, thanks to a commentator below) a better example (this is an edit that came to me later) is Snow White and the animation for "Music in your Soup" was done, it needed to be coloured and cleaned, but it was done. it took months, and Disney cut it, because it wasn't working. even if the song is lovely but this, this is lazy. this is trying to tap into nostalgia instead of doing something original and i looked this up, but spoilers below the 100-year-old grandad's wish, was to create something that inspired future generations, and it was writing "When you wish upon a star" the music from Pinocchio and the theme song of Disney itself like are you kidding me, that's the wish. the company may have thought it was patting itself on the back, like Bilbo, Frodo and later Sam writing the Lord of the Rings, which you get to see during the trilogy itself. but it feels like a middle finger to the audience, like "This is the fairy story of the origin of all our fairy stories"
Walt Disney perfected the magic he wanted to show people. These people now are just.....putting whatever the kids will eat up and not bother remembering.
I didn't even bother to read the second paragraph because the story as soon as I read the first sentence I was already bored. Comes to show Disney is just so bad when storywriting nowadays
That was the wish? What a slap in the face to the the writers of the original song, Leigh Harline & Ned Washington. Leigh was in the same church congregation as my grandparents when my mom was a baby. These were real people!
I think those references to past Disney movies are up for interpretation. It's been said that they're nothing more than cheeky references to Disney Animation's past films (since it's been 100 years after all), but I wouldn't blame anyone for thinking Wish is trying to weld every past movie together into a single canon/timeline by becoming its origin story (much like that Pixar theory). It certainly can go both ways, and I could see Disney outright confirming and doubling down if Wish were a success, just as much as I could see them denying and backpaddling now that it's a flop; a "say what the audience wants to hear the most" type of thing.
The scene where you see him and Asha where they are singing in the beginning he is singing about protecting all of the wishes meanwhile she sees her grandfather's wish and literally no joke runs through all of the other wishes scattering them knocking them all over and only grabs her grandfather's wish singing about only preserving his wish. It's interesting to see the "hero" act like a villain as usually it's the villain who will smash wishes but it's a sharp contrast to see the villain protecting and caring for every wish and the hero trodding underfoot everyone else's wish to serve her own ends. That couldve been a good moral the main character appreciating all wishes and all people but no the king had to turn cartoonishly evil and asha is just morally pure and learns absolutely nothing Remember when movies had characters learn and grow? I miss that
Disney has had this issue with character morality in recent years. The newest Black Panther and Spider-Man come to mind. Both end witch main characters going evil for a moment against the antagonist but it doesn’t feel like they learned how not to be evil, just paused as their antagonist was already in a position of submission. It’s kinda disturbing to see these movies lose the morality of what makes a good protagonist.
Exactly - or that the supporting cast can learn from each other? Shang, despite being the best warrior there, learned from Mulan. Meg learned from Hercules. We can have a talking animal, but I want a friend or love interest to really strengthen it better.
There's also Home Sweet Home Alone, where the Protagonist picks up a lost heirloom, and the villains are actually trying to take it back as they lost the heirloom, and in the end, they get arrested. Worse still, they're just a married couple, not career burglars.
they didn't hire talent...they hired activists this is why their movies suck I don't think a "fantaia" would've done anything seeing how it would've been activist driven. there is no more talent at disney
Honestly I feel like Disney’s “Enchanted” was a much better movie that could have been a homage for their 100th but instead it came out way before it’s time and was amazing! Now we have Wish to use as the 100th anniversary movie and it would never live up to the expectations that every other good Disney film created before it. Honestly sad to see a big film company known for good movies for so long, fall.
I really like reading the comments of these videos because people share their own ideas on how to improve the film, and they all sound like better movies. Personally, I like the idea of the star being some prankster who tricks Asha into granting everyone's wishes, no matter how terrible they may be. And King Magnifico and her friends have to stop her or something.
Ok that idea actually sounds good and way more fun that the star just suddenly appearing and agreeing with the protagonist without leaving much of an impression
So - the heroes of the story (Asha and her friends) are actually the villains who made the arrogant - but largely benevolent - king into straight up evil because Asha didn't like how he ran things; which forced him to use a cursed book after he felt threatened (which corrupted him completely)? And his wife, who somehow gets a free pass despite the fact she was probably well aware of how her husband handled the wishes all this time and did nothing to stop him - both doesn't even try to find a way to stop the corruption from taking over her beloved husband, but willfully allows him to be sealed away and sends him off to the dungeons (I.e. She betrayed her husband by turning traitor to save her own skin)? What a lovely story to tell the kiddos. /s
@@jennypickle I wonder who made that rule or who made the Forbidden magic, Forbidden. Normally that's the creator of the spell or the leader of the magic system in place.
I don't know if you're going to read this... But yeah the queen and king were supposed to be an evil due, this movie was supposed to be entirele in 2d and star was supposed to be a magical boy/deity that had a romance with Asha. Guys we were robbed. I want a remake of this movie with the actual original ideas. And whoever worked on this and decided that these were bad ideas and gave us this crap instead DESERVES to be fired. Edit: Star is not her grandpa guys, he is her former love interest, the proof is the song Magnifico and Asha sing, which was originaly Star and Asha's duet, the lyrics were changed to fit the new movie, but the movie was originally a love song supposed to play at weedings. So please, stop saying Star is her grandpa or something, because he is not lol. Search the old version of the song and you guys will have an idea of how robbed we were.
@@ssaintdolli there is a video were ir shows two guys reading e-mails from disney ex-employees and they are anonymous and they said they kicked out the omd guys that worked there for activists, and now the casting/hiring is based only on tidentity politics... Like bro, that's messed up. I don't mind representation but this is going too far... And this is only a problem in Disney America because per example Disney in Japan is still goin strong with Twisted Wonderland, Kingdom Hearts and so on that have a lot of progressive writing, and good story telling. You can do both. They just don't want to, and it doesn't matter who gets the job, if the only people getting it are unexperience people that don't care about what they are doing and oy care about pushing a message things are gonna get bad. I hate it here. Disgusting.
It's a shame a celebration of 100 years turned out to be so generic and forgetable, even with all it had going for it. Cool hybrid animation, bringing back true villains, Ariana DeBose, and they still screwed up. Those songs actually felt AI generated. They need to start taking risks and changing up their formula, or they'll be left in the dust. I know some of us want that, but while I dislike the corporation, I still want the studio to do great things again.
@@DanGamingFan2406 I like this, but I usually just try to reword it. I want to know it reaches the people in a thread as well as people just coming to the video.
I haven't watched the movie, but I bought the concept art book, "The Art of Wish". There is SO much missed potential. A lot of the designs were so unique, esepcially Star, who had so many other designs. And at one point, it seems like both the King and Queen were genuinely evil/selfish to some degree. But I guess it was cut in order to make it more "kid friendly" which I think is just stupid. And the concept designs could definitely translate well to 2-D animation.
What if someone's wish was for a mass extinction or a death of someone? I would've thought they'd do something about needing to pick out wishes because some wishes are morally terrible
You DARE to hypothetically tell an 18-year-old that their wishes and dreams for petty things and revenge are BAD??? That their teenage thought-process and beliefs might be FLAWED??? The anti-modern-Disney NERVE.
Not just terrible, but what if someone gave that wish up because they wanted some semblance of peace with their conscience? For them, having that burning desire to see humanity burn might be hurting them far, far more than having that sliver of their soul missing. Instead most of the wishes we see are...first career choice. What. You come to a wish gtanting king and your wish is a career choice??? Something is WRONG with these people even before magnifico is involved
I think my headcanon rewrite of Wish would be: - king was originally a civilian who fell in love with the queen when she was a princess - queen also actually loved the king but the king didn't know that - king sought out a magic book that grants magic for wishes at a price; he figured that if he only used it once to get his crush to love him back, he wouldn't fall under its corruption - king and queen get married - events of movie happen, King feels threatened by the presence of another magic user and fears losing his queen; he goes to use more of the book's magic and gets even more corrupted - later King's magic is dispelled by Asha, but finds out the magic book had no bearing on his queen in the first place because the queen actually always loved him - book is destroyed and king regains his senses and feels deep regret - queen finds out what he had done, and he's permanently demoted from being a king while she takes over as queen, appoints Asha as her new court magician - King gets his redemption arc in repairing his relationship with Queen simply as her husband, not a king. he's happier that way THE END
THIS. Cause it honestly feels like something Netflix would just drop randomly which is an insult to Netflix because the Adam Sandler animated film Leo was surprisingly great.
@@hp8167 The anime Pluto and Akuma-Kun were also great, Netflix is giving more experimental series a chance that normally would just fall under the radar (there is also the sequel to Scott Pilgrim vs the world and they got the entire cast of the life action movie as VAs)
The animation style was quite trippy. It felt like they were trying to mimic the Spider-Verse animation style other companies have been doing, but it just wasn’t working for them lol
@@flare90 i agree if they just added 2d accents like how they did in arcane and spider verce like a cell shaded look or something like a water color shading line it would fit the water color background but they said NO basic 3D BABY!
Someone said the animation that looked like Sofia the First and Avena of Avalon from Disney Junior with an Instagram filter on it and now I can’t unsee it. 💀 They did the bare minimum with this animation they couldn't even bother to do proper lighting, especially in brighter scenes. Literally had so many references to figure out how to do 2D/3D hybrid animation (Puss in Boots 2 was right there y'all) there are literally tutorials on TH-cam for BLENDER and just… I have no clue what happened. It barely looks done, this looks like something they would have done before Frozen and Tangled.
They did a bad job hangling the nostalgia keys imo. They want to dangle nostalgia keys on a 100 year anniversary movie? Ok. Jangle them hard. Make a chorus of jangling keys. Do ultimate showdown of Ultimate destiny, Disney edition.
It’s a real shame really. Ariana DeBose and Chris Pine were promising casting and first look screenshots from the film looked gorgeous. It seems like Disney just decided to play it wayyy too safe, perhaps because the movies where they take more risks like Strange World weren’t successful. But at least Strange World tried something new and may be seen as akin to Treasure Planet and Atlantis in the future where people recognise it as underrated. This film will likely be forgotten.
@@MrShinyArceusI haven't watched either of these movies but I would rather watch strange world cause like this commentor said, at least it's different with it's scifi/eco-fiction setting, while wish feels like a soulless shell of what makes a Disney movie magical.
See, what Disney is doing nowadays is giving out poor marketing towards their newer movies so that when they come out on Disney+, they'll be heavily streamed over there cause I guess they saw how successful Encanto was and decided to do it with their other films. And the sad thing is, it's working, as Strange World was the most streamed thing over there when it got to Disney+,but it received mixed reviews, and lost them lots of money. And it looks like they're doing the same thing here. What made Encanto good was the pacing and how they handled the characters, NOT some stupid marketing strategy that only exists to promote your streaming app. If they keep doing this, they'll lose who knows how much money. It's such a shame.
Asha's main goal was to get her family's wishes granted. Wishes they gave willingly, wishes they knew would probably never come because there are a lot of people and they are old. Just because of this, Asha challenges a king who has never done anything wrong, who even lets the people live for FREE and accepts strangers in his kingdom every day, AND HE ONLY ASK FOR PEOPLE'S WISHES IN RETURN! HE DOESN'T EVEN DO SOMETHING SHADY WITH THEM, THEY ARE JUST THERE. I like Asha to some degree, but god, she is so selfish and biased.
Yeah i didnt see what he was doing as so wrong hes not terrorizing ppl in fact its more of a Want Not Worry Not situation as he has them forget their desire for just one thing in exchange for board at his kingdom
And the entire second song of the movie was about how the king was literally going to protect these wishes with his life. And his very very vague motive actually makes a bit of sense because yes, people can want bad things. Honestly he just seems paranoid and it’s not like that’s hurting anyone. Take out the evil book and Asha could’ve been the bad guy here💀
That's what annoyed me. They act like what Magnifico had done was barbaric (accepting the wish that the people gave to him, willingly; and making those whose wishes he didn't grant forget the wish so they could move on with their lives). Asha's idea is actually pretty terrible - as even the most innocent of wishes could spell disaster if you don't weigh to pros and cons on what would happen if a specific wish is granted (whicb sounds like something Magnifico was doing with the wishes he got; only granting the wishes that were beneficial to the kingdom, which included his people, instead of granting wishes at random).
And it’s also the citizen’s choice to give him their wishes. They don’t even have to do that! They always choose to though because who doesn’t want their wish granted?
Is it me or have all the little delightful clothing quirks about Disney princesses been removed from this new animation. My little nieces who went to see WISH noticed it and put me wise to it after they confirmed it among themselves. They were like Uncle why won't the princess wear a princess "spin around dress?" You see when these girls were small they loved the long flowing dresses that had movement and changed or reacted to characters every motion. Animation made dresses look and feel of the highest quality. As a princess walked the dress moved in ways that complimented the lady. The dress worn by this main character is dull, drab and lifeless as the drawing, voice acting and presentation. This is HOT Garbage!
Asha having such a bland dress and then _not_ getting a dress transformation or upgrade or anything is just nuts to me! Even with the most cynical look at it- that being that pretty, sparkly, flowy princess dresses will sell like hotcakes to little girls- it just makes no sense. You're telling me that the "princess" in your 100th anniversary film that's allegedly a love letter to classic Disney ISN'T going to get a sweet dress transformation?
I see you, I hear what you are getting at about the lack of whimsicality and this new lack of creativity and beautiful/aesthetic film art, but my initial response was gonna be: "Yeah, because Mulan, Pocahontas, Moana, and Jasmine all had such flowy dresses... " Sorry but not sorry enough not to actually say it because although you have a point I see you and your nieces are trying to get at, I think the dress is the wrong way to approach it. This is just a charmless movie in every way, highlighting the lack of the fun dress.
Modern audiences don't want "just" a princess anymore is why. But that being said I remember being a little girl obsessed with pretty dresses too, and Disney LOVES marketable things (the Princess line is their #1 seller) so I am surprised they didn't show a dress on her for one scene.
I just can't get over how there were so many obvious, easy ways to take the plot that would make it INFINITELY better and have an actual message, and they managed to miss them all to make the most boring, nonsensical and undeveloped plot ever. Like just off the top of my head(without even watching the film) they could've taken the plot into 1. "not everyone's wishes are good/non-conflicting and so we shouldn't grant all of them without thinking" message where, say, the star thing appears and starts granting everyone's wishes, turning their kingdom into chaos - they could still pull off the villain as the extreme opposite of that(paranoia that any wish could be malicious in some way so not granting them at all) and make Asha balance these 2 extremes 2. "you shouldn't rely on magic/third party to grant your wishes as you yourself have the power to make them come true" message where the king isn't really a villain but a ruler who doesn't want his people to become lazy and too reliant on magic, but at a midpoint of the movie Asha and the kingdom citizens overthrow the king and start granting all of the wishes all of the time, making the people exactly that - lazy and too reliant on magic, maybe even put a "even if you do everything people want all of the time, there will still be some who are unsatisfied and ungrateful" message in there. Asha could realise what she's done(idk, maybe make it so that the people have dried up the star's magic with their wishes and it almost fades or something) and work with the king to restore the kingdom to normal and inspire the people to work on their wishes themselves, as idk, the magic was inside of them all along or something, you know the drill. And that's not even considering the scrapped concepts of the queen also being a villain, Asha being related to the rulers, the star being a magical boy, Asha's design screaming "calm and rational" and not a "qUiRkY GuRL" they made her to be, all of which again could've been used in infinite amounts of ways to make the end product actually be something. But Disney's current strategy seems to be "An interesting and meaningful idea? Quick, cut it!! We can't have that on our production!!"
Third option, have the king hording wishes be shown as bad, where it shown how cultural people are primed to give up the wishes but the wishes are something they need to know. One can very easily get into persona area where people are shown that even if they have bad wishes, they need to understand why they wish for things, and just removing the wish from a person is toxic brain surgery, the equivant of trying to treat mental illness with lobotomy. The person stops whining and seems to be better but it really done a lot of damage. Make the kingdom into a stagnant town of stepford smilers. The keys are already there in the movie. We are noted by Asha, that she thinks not giving the wishes back to the person if they are not going to be granted is bad and one of the wishes is to inspire people, which the king fears could be bad. King not wrong that inspires people can be bad but someone who prevents the possibility of things becoming better because he scared of losing the status quo is textbook villain material. Heck maybe have Asha try to grant people wishes by giving them the tools to pursue their dream and try to encourage people to not give up their wishes and have the king react badly. Actually that sounds like a great way to make a king in the bad guy, have him react badly to people trying to obtain their wishes with hard work.
The thing is the king wasn't being evil for the sake of being evil, there clearly was something traumatic, I was hoping that he would elaborate on what happened, because he would get fed up with Asha's ignorance on what he's doing. From my understanding, the king took peoples wishes to prevent what happened to his family, to his home, hence him calling some wishes too dangerous. When it says that the grandfathers wish is too vague and dangerous, he's saying that from the perspective that the wish could inspire people to revoult, kill etc. By making people complacent and ambitionless, he ensures that nothing bad will ever happen again. My theory from what little they show in the film, an evil wizard destroyed the kings home and killed all his loved ones, leaving him alone. The evil wizard probably was narrowly defeated by a good wizard, where they both defeat each other in battle. The good wizard probably says some final words to the king, inspiring him to become a wizard etc, which also explains how he got the evil book, from the evil wizard. By outlawing magic, taking everyone's wishes, his kingdom theroritcally will remain peaceful. The king wasn't evil, he was just traumatised with a warped sense of justice, he only became evil when he used the book
We asked disney for a evil just for being evil villian. I think they misunderstood us. This villian had so much potential but was terribly handled. Shame cuz hes my fav character
@BellaBeanBarksI don't think you even need to do that. The best Disney villains aren't evil simply for the sake of being evil. The best Disney villains are evil because they're too narcissistic and sociopathic to realize otherwise.
@@DeadmanInc336I mean, a lot of the Disney villains of old were fully aware they were evil, and revelled in it. Maleficent is literally the Mistress of all Evil, and throughly enjoys it. What you described feels more like the terrible twist villains that have very lottle time to actually make a dent in their movie.
I hope not. They're ACTIVELY making shit movies. They're going hardcore on the ESG....They're movies are shit, their parks are dirty, and they're bleeding money, I hope they go bankrupt. They think all of you are idiots.
@@Square1789 another thing to point out is that they are probably realizing this fact too, which is just going to get us more sequels and nothing new and interesting
This movie would've been 100x better if Asha was from a another kingdom that was struggling and her goal for the movie was to get her wish granted for her kingdom to not suffer any more and get better but the king refused because another kingdom could be a threat to his kingdom. Smh. Edit: Tysm for 500 likes omg
Remember when Disney used to do extensive research for their films no matter the topic? Couldve had a more solid logic for the magic system in the film smh
While listening to the King’s villain song, I kept thinking of how it could have been *peak* cinema and i thought of this: Hes alone and we're about to find out that he's the villain and his wants/goals. Sweeping music plays loud for the lead in until he subtly gestures for it to quiet for him. And the song starts with him sweetly singing, "A dream is a wish your heart makes when you're fast asleep. In dreams, you can lose your heartache. Whatever you wish for, I'LL KEEP." And boom. A big band, full broadway, villain song. Man. If only...
Puss in Boots: The Last Wish is better in every single way (not to mention it is much smarter in its "wishes" theme, by asking us "Hay, are you 100% sure of that?" and showing that not all the wishes are good or should be granted) and a much better movie that celebrates 100 years of Western animation and Disney (Jack Horner's collection is full of movie references), by classic fairy tail formula, while providing a new unique spin on it, change my mind... all right you can't because that's just a fact. At this point, I believe that hacks from modern Disney make Encanto just by accident, or that there were one or few people behind the scenes who saved this movie from becoming jet another misfire like this thing.
Encanto was saved by its soundtrack, as was Frozen 1&2. Disney's princess movies need story or strong music to succeed. Tangled's songs are in the weaker end but the characters and story carried it. Frozen's story was meh but it at least had the sibling bond and Let It Go and a few other hits. Wish had an okay story, characters and songs, but nothing outstanding, and that's the problemm
I don't get why they made the characters look 3D but then decided to make decor and landscapes look 2D, It just feels like the characters are moving in front of weird flat pictures..and the dark lines around the characters and decor look really weird too, in motion and also there is no sense of depht because of it.
Something I'd like to see change, have it be that when he first established the Kingdom, he granted everyone their wish, but there was chaos. So his wish is to fix all the chaos, and he figures out how to make people lose memories when giving up their wish as well. He then sees if it would cause chaos or prosperity, and judges off of that. And the castle has zero mirrors, as he can't bare to look at himself for what his wish did to bring back peace. Also, he immediately figures out it's Asha who brought the star down, and goes to her parent's house and asks them to tell Asha he has a message for her. There he lays bare all that happens with his Wish, and Asha points out he has full control over distribution, and he may not see everything clearly. The conflict comes from unitary control over advice from others. The king seems to be breaking down, not wanting another time of chaos, and Asha wants to free them all Then have the wishes break free, and Asha and the people do see the chaos that ensues, but the King notices how people who can are using their wishes to try and mitigate the disaster. Somehow someway they manage to get those wishes back, and both sides agree the other had a point.
i think they should learn from Ghibi , the last movie coming out soonish around December . It is all fully hand drawn , none did in 3d , it called The Boy and the Heron check it out ! they are quite harsh on keeping the originality of traditional hand drawn .
So, interestingly, the "Frozen II" documentary series showed that each of the Disney movies get three passes before going into a fourth pass that's the final movie the general public gets to see. The first and second passes are watched by directors & writers currently working on other Disney projects who give them notes, and the third pass is then seen by a test audience where the movie gets to see how it tests in front of an audience. While i've not heard any rumors or anything to really back this up, (I.E: Grab the box of salt and chug it while reading this) "Wish" feels like it got one, *maybe* two, passes and what we're seeing feels like a rushed production. I know Jennifer Lee isn't the greatest screenwriter in Hollywood, but even with the issues her movies she's written, like Wreck it Ralph, Frozen, & Frozen II, there was a lot of depth and stuff to talk about within those movies. Her script for "Wish" really feels like she had no time to flesh out the idea in it. On top of that, co-director Chris Buck is considered to be a great director in the animation industry, and this is not a good first outing for the other director and screenwriter, Fawn Veerasunthorn. Everything about this feels like this team should've had it in the bag, but the song-writer choices (who are more well known in pop than musical theatre) really dragged down a lot of this movie. It feels like they had to rush this out, and didn't get the time to make it. Does anyone else feel this, at all?
@@fandroid6491 sometimes. Even directors who take their time, like Quentin Tarantino, have some plot holes or hiccups in their movies. Writing is very hard & remembering every single little bit that has to be payed off is beyond challenging. “Wish” feels more like the stuff they wanted to do didn’t get to be fleshed out before they had to get it out.
@@cdmp777 I disagree. Frozen II plays really well, but I can see people not liking it. However, *as many as wish*??? That's just not true in the slightest.
I mean… the king AND the queen could’ve been evil, together, just to be evil… don’t think that would’ve changed much, it just would have been a way more interesting dynamic than “just this one evil guy”, probably.
Exactly!!! I was pretty sure that there was a point on the video where Dazz implied that for some reason this wouldn’t have worked, and that’s why I commented this, but now I can’t find it 😭
Also i love a villain with a point, like i expected magnifico to be that and turn batshit crazy evil cuz he got mad/frustrated due to people always relying on him
@msk-qp6fn That is SUCH a good concept!!! Should’ve hired you to work on Wish tbh because that sounds so much more interesting than what we got. Even if it’s probably too “sympathetic” for some people, it actually has substance and Wish needs that baaadly
what annoys me is that this movie should've been in the works YEARS ago. Instead it feels like it was started six months ago. They literally could've just opened brothers grim and picked one of those stories. Or made a story ABOUT brothers grim and disneyefy it. Literally anything but what they chose to do. Also Magnifico would've worked better as a mother gothel type character. Gaslighting Asha into thinking that he can't grant all the wishes because if he grants them all people will get hurt. He shows off one wish out of thousands that's someone wishing harm on someone else and Asha's on board until she learns how few and far between those wishes are and that it's easy to just, check what the wish is before granting it or something. Anything but what we got
I think disney just needs to take, like a year to step back and figure out what on earth they should do to fix their company. They just finished their 100 year anniversary and now would be a great time to reset and reevaluate their strategy. That or they may actually fall to dust. I guess 100 years is a long time to keep going, and at this point its a suprize they are.
Probably fire everyone that's been in charge of the sequence of major fails and start over. Completely stop with the live action and recasting established IPs. Iwájú was fantastic. It felt grounded and I thoroughly enjoyed what felt like a true passion project of African culture and was only disappointed that it was so short. I would love to see more original stories told that explore black culture in a similar sense. The Princess and the Frog was also done very well with the Louisiana background, then you also have Encanto, Coco, and Moana. They've proven they are capable of telling cohesive and organic stories that are rooted in minority lore. Continue building on that aspect while not being afraid of telling quality white stories too. We can coexist and share this space and it will improve the quality if they don't try to tick all the boxes to appeal to everyone with every freaking movie. Too many chefs in the kitchen, fingers in the pie, etc... leads to everyone feeling unsatisfied. Pick a target audience or basis for the story, commit to it, and give a solid narrative with good music and animation and it will be well received.
After watching the movie, me and family had a pretty lengthy talk about how little was actually in this movie. My mom was genuinely confused how it made it fully through production with it’s so SO many plot holes. And I only caught like 2 references. Tbh the credits were easily the best part of the movie. I’m not even trying to be bitter. pointing out the Disney characters as they showed up on the credits was better than the movie experience.
i watched this movie on field trip my work took after school care kids on. while i was watching it i was mostly happy the kids stopped yelling and screaming, but there was a moment when Asha's family escape to an island nearby, at which point i thought "maybe there's a rebel group on the island, or some other pariah group" because surely Asha is not the first person to question the kings authority, or question the idea of giving up your wish. not real, didn't happen, impossible, nuance? what was i thinking?
World building, that is something that needs to happen for a fantasy film. How did Disney just forget that, maybe its because they have been focusing on rehashing their classics (the live action remakes). Also, Disney knows they can put out garbage at this point as they know people will go see it anyway.
I'm hoping to bring my own characters and their world to the public someday I've done so much world building and if I can gt thm out thre it would be so exciting
@@kaitlando636 don't ever pitch them to any studios or executives or even anyone on social media without sending yourself postmarked proof in the mail that the idea is yours. use the poor man's copyright, look it up! then if someone ever shows up with your idea who you have proof you spoke to you can prove your ownership. studios will absolutely just steal otherwise.
Hi Disney, you can fix your story with a very simple change: in order to grant wishes magically, the king captures and kills the wishing stars. Done, you're welcome. Most basic plot ever: complete.
I am not sure I like this, I prefer more playing up the king control freak and effects of giving up a wish more. Make it clear that depression is a common issue due to giving up one wish but one is unwilling to admit to it, because they are susposed to be happy in a magical kingdom. Make the king react badly to suggestions of social change or doing things in ways other than he views best. In short, make it clear that wishes are important things to not be thrown always causally and the king is a tyrant who prevents wishes asides from what he sees as right from being granted, even if those wishes are not relaying on king magic to be granted. Heck it can be woke, maybe a woman wants to be a knight but that is seen by the king as disruptive to the social order, king not even trying to be sexist here, he is trying to keep the status quo comfortable the same.
Or it could be he's taking the wishes to stay in power and he's lying about any chance of getting there wish granted and asha figures out about it because she doesn't have a wish or she already had her wish granted by the stars
@@brendenhawley2225playing up the control freak angle would certainly have beem better, but at this point ANY actual villainy would be an improvement over the "morally grey hero the plot railroads into being a milquetoast villain it proclaims irredeemable" they accidentally created.
They keep cutting to that burn tapestry and that usually implies he's not only telling his backstory from his perspective and there's something more sinister about his backstory out of sight like maybe his family lost everything because of their actions in a rebellion caused but they just like never elaborate.
I got more excited by recognizing Ganon’s theme playing in the background of this video at one point than I did watching any marketing for this movie 😅
I hope, despite this failing they continue to explore and work on this 2.5d art style. I like it, even if kinda meh sometimes, i think it has huge potential to be something amazing with more work poured into it.
I believe the movie failed because they played it too safe, unfortunately corporations have a tendency to take the exact WRONG lessons away from how well or poorly a movie does. The fact that they took any minimal risks at all will more likely be blamed by Bob Iger and his fellow executives over the fact that they didn't do enough to make this film stand on its own two feet.
@@garygearboy1358 yeah, probably. And while I do agree, I would say most 'newer' style looks horrible at first. (Not all obv but look at old school 3d lol). I think with time one studio will do an incredible job if they haven't already. Even this movie has some very lovely compositional shots, so it's not completely without some artist merit. It just fails more than it succeeds.
@@sandwich3044 I agree as styles change and evolve some wont like it but some ill love it its all on opinion and now ive seen stuff about the film it has some good but some bad stuff in it but i agree it succeds and fails at some things
Frollo ispathetic,but scary, and he is humanized, but good in a still villain way. There is thought to make frollo humanized but so much worse for it.very real, scary so. I think the king had frollo like potential as zealot if they had given him the needed build up, and like less rushed and messy of a production.
The (most likely) reason Wish released 'late' in the UK is not because of any changes made to the film, but because in the US this week is the week of the Thanksgiving holiday. American schools were off on Wednesday, which is why the film was released on that day and not the customary Friday. However, schools in the UK were not off, so there would be no benefit to releasing a kids' film on a day there would be no kids to see it. Release windows can be odd though. Other films have had way more time between their US and UK release dates. For example, Coco released Thanksgiving 2017 in the US, and it didn't reach the UK until January 2018, and despite having a much larger gap between releases I don't recall there being any changes made to that film.
Yeah, I didn't expect anything to be changed between the US and UK releases. Movies usually come out later here, especially Disney films. The only change I can even remember from recent Disney movies is Zootopia being called Zootropolis in the UK (I guess a 'metropolis' pun worked better than a 'utopia' pun on test audiences here?)
I knew something was suspicious when I saw the first trailer. There is no reason the animation style has to look this unpolished when Treasure Planet is a 3D and 2D movie made in the early 00s.
@@ChaosRebirth417 I'm not the only one! I didn't like the art style even if it was going for a cell shaded look or whatever it didn't have enough low/high lights. If an ANIMATION STUDIO, especially the biggest one at that, doesn't care about how the animation comes across then they aren't going to care about the writing and everything else that goes into making a movie. (Including paying people properly and giving realistic deadlines)
I think that some Disney executive heard what everyone was saying about them, and tried to make a movie with everything they wanted... but then forgot to make a good movie.
You know songs in Disney movie are in big trouble when Phineas and Ferb (which literally came from Disney too) had better and memorable songs than Wish especially coming from Doofenshmirtz. Doofenshmirtz telling his backstory through songs way better than whoever this movie villain was 😂
Tbh the main thing about this movie that’s bothering is the fact that it had a villain song titled “This Is The Thanks I Get” and it COMPLETELY fumbled the bag so hard. Like it’s baffling how bad the song is. I’m astonished that Disney, the ones who made “Be Prepared” and “Poor Unfortunate Souls” and “Friends on the Other Side” and “My Lullaby” managed to make such a bad villain song, it’s one of the things Disney is supposed to be good at! How do you mess up a villain song with such a badass title, this movie should have been awesome for that song alone! Disney is fumbling hard and this awful excuse of a 100th anniversary film shows it entirely.
With this song, if they changed the tone to be more like Scar's song, but kept the same animation expressions it could've worked way better, because from what I saw in the movie the villain actually had good expressions but just the song being so upbeat made it contrast awkwardly
Tbf "Disney" didn't make the songs they just hired really good people ans gave them time before. I feel like this movie was manhandled by commitees and execs to appeal to everyone possible so now it's just bland everything, including music
Woah. The cut into Encanto and then back to Wish was like- surreal. The visual quality spike in Encanto and then the visual quality just plummeting in Wish.
This is what happens when Disney lays off so many people- also even the ppl working on it tweeted about how it’s so sad it was more about the celebration of the _corporation_ rather than the company or ppl/soul/whatever
Because all the wishes We see Magnifico grant where super achievable I thought there might be a twist like the rush of there passion returning combined with funding from the king was enough to fulfil the ones he did and he actually couldn’t grant wishes, like he could do illustrations and was rich but not much else and it was mostly a ploy to stop the to many citizens from getting ambitious enough to rise above their stations but I guess that was to much plot to expect.
Or maybe make a point of how the culture of the kingdom makes people think they have to give up a wish instead of working on it them self, and Asha could encourage people to encourage others to work on their wishes instead of giving it up. The king villain moment could have him going control freak when he starts to get the sense the kingdom was acting on it own instead of relaying on it for everything. Basically Asha the good parent who helps the kids get a good position to work hard on their dreams and teaches them to think critically. And magnifico is the bad parent teaching the kids they can accomplish nothing without him, so they better unthinkingly obey everything he tells.
I really thought Magnifico was gonna be a great character. Similar to what you said about the wishes clashing.. I thought he'd be someone who would curate wishes for better outcomes and NOT keeping it for himself because he finds them as a personal threat. And a conflict I had in mind was some wishes are so volatile that he is force to not grant them and part of the lesson would have to be acceptance.. maybe Magnifico is related to the stars given the responsibility to have a connection to the people, a bridge (similar to Elsa in Frozen 2) but his responsibility has gotten too heavy causing people to hate him. It just didn't make sense that people still love him after not granting their wishes 😭 and them not remembering their wishes is so lazy to me.
Wish was one of the most disappointing films I have ever seen. It’s a shame because I actually was looking forward to this one. Lazy references, animation that is good on paper, but execution could have been better, a large cast of uninteresting characters, unfunny jokes, and writing that is shocking bad for Disney. Seriously, they haven’t wrote this bad since Chicken Little. The lack of a message in this movie just rubbed me the wrong way, especially when Disney usually teaches the audience, whether a good or bad movie.
Honestly yes. And it's the only movie aimed at girls right now as Hollywood animation is now mostly boys movies and the next announced ones are for the dudes. I'm a girly girl and hate how I'm gonna have to go to watching baby shows because only babies consistently get content for girls. Families get mostly boys content or content that has a female main character but is literally in a story where you could replace it with a boy, it's just a "strong" woman in a normally male focused story that is completely tomboyish or tries to repress her femininity. I liked barbie and ruby Gillman, they were actually good (and barbie doesn't send the message that Ken is evil despite what critics say, they both are toxic people for a lot of the movie and learn in the end), but they also embraced the girly aesthetic instead of making girls who are feminine a joke or the villain that radfems are meant to boo at. Wish should have been great but it ended up being meh.
They could've done something clever where she beats the king and grants the wishes. They make it seem like it'll end on a happy note but boom it all starts falling apart and she ends up having to take the role of the king. Drop a massive plottwist ending or anything entertaining -_-
I was thinking about that too. I thought that would happen to make the whole film more memorable. Considering the mid-ness of the film. I would like it to be a loop of trama, turning asha into a new king(I forgot his name) and there will be new asha to continue the cycle
The initial idea for Wish sounds perfect for a 100th anniversary film. Star was going to be a shapeshifter with a personality like a fusion between Peter Pan and the Genie, he was going to be Asha's love interest, and the king and queen were going to be an evil couple. I'm so disappointed they didn't I'm going to write my own musical movie using that premise because it needs to exist in some form.
@@sunny-gt7qw I'm writing about 15 of my own stories as it is. Writing my own story that uses elements that Disney was going to use but didn't is hardly "copying what Disney already wrote".
When you realize Super Mario RPG was a better Disney-style story involving a heroic princess who fights an evil king who is corrupting the wishes of the world.
After having left the theatre just a few hours ago, this could’ve had the potential to be the longest feature length animated Disney film imho. Also, those visuals reminded me too much of Sofia The First for some reason.
Definitely feels like the first Sofia the firsts movies visuals but the rest of the series has way better animation and unlike wish, sofia the first is amazing with great music, fleshed out characters and world, and enjoyable writing.
Sofia the first despite being a disney junior cartoon was fun to watch the concept its self was fun and interesting and the occasional disney princess somehow in 3d didnt look bad and it gave good messages. Heck her aunt seemed to be heavily inspired by Mary Poppins.
when you showed the footage of encanto between shots of wish, it really stood out to me just how much less colorful wish is. it looks dull by comparison.
Haven’t watched Wish, and this doesn’t help with any of the problems that were explained in ANY capacity, buuut… with the star granting the animals the ability to talk, but refusing to help the protagonist-maybe it granted their wishes because? There was genuinely no way they could just *learn to talk* on their own? Like, if the theme is “you can do things yourself! You don’t need some wish magic to do it for you!” then I guess the star could only be stubborn when you could go do a thing yourself. This opens up the funny alternative, though, where instead of the protag wishing for whatever she wishes for, she could have just gone “I wanna be a dragon :)” or something and had her wish granted
If the film spent half the time it spent making dumb references spending like a minuet more on each plot development it might actually be a half decent film. Like at minimum they needed to spend Another 30 seconds on her going from wanting to be his apprentice to wanting to take down the whole system.
A couple of months ago I had ChatGPT generate a multi-chapter 'epic' fanfic for me, and some of the scenarios it came up with were so bizarre, nonsensical, and out of character that it was actually kind of hilarious (at one point it had a character, who in canon is a murderous serial killer, doing the Chicken Dance for no reason). Also I discovered the things it considers too violent is a little uneven. It gladly wrote me a few paragraphs about a character nearly choking to death on a bottle cap, and the serial killer had a running gag involving punching a particular character in the face, but then a few prompts later it told me that someone running over a tomato plant with a car was too violent and it doesn't condone or promote violence. I actually do know how to write since I do it as a hobby, so this experiment actually helped me learn some of the quirks and tells of AI generated stories. It's all based on algorithm rather than skill, so it follows a pattern that can get predictable after a while, even when it throws random curveballs at you like the Chicken Dancing serial killer. From what I've been seeing and hearing of Wish, it really does tick all of the boxes for some of the randomly generated crap that ChatGPT came up with during my experiment, so I really do think it was generated by AI and then 'cleaned up' by a human team as a quick cash grab.
What sucks is that King Magnifico has nice design and they gave him a wife, and Disney literally did nothing with both. He's the first [disney] villian with a wife, and it goes no where. So disappointing. 😢
If the old guy has been waiting 100 years for his wish, but the king and queen are in their like.. mid 30s?? Does no one question thwir eternal youth?? Or maybe he was already old because the king said he granted 14 wishes, so hes waited as long as anyone else has when thw kingsom was founded... nothing in this movie makes sense istg
I haven't watched the film, but I thought one of the main topics tackled to this movie would be about some wishes being bad? They might have good intentions, but the wish would cause problems. Like maybe someone saying "I wish bees don't exist" because they are allergic to bee stings. The king can't grant a wish like that, it'll cause too many problems. 25:50 "All wishes are now granted." I refuse to believe no one had a bad/selfish wish. Unless bad/selfish wishes aren't permitted? But did they say that? And if they did, that's a pathetic excuse to avoid making the movie more realistic.
right?! Honestly Aladin tackled the idea of wishes so much better then this movie. There were rules, consequences and drawbacks to the wishes that were flushed out. Heck even Brave did a good job of handling the monkey paw situation of a naive wish going awry. Not sure why they decided to back pedal and dumb down the idea of wishes here.
Watching the trailers I thought the were making the king look evil, but actually have good intentions The protagonist would get all the wishes would be granted for him to respond “what have you done?!” With several wishes have major consequences: from wishes contradicting each other or some wishes being granted too late Like in Bruce Almighty: Bruce takes over for God and eventually says yes to everyone’s prayers So they have to fix everything their wishes have caused and everyone learns that not all wishes can come true
I was just telling my friend that this could have gone a different route and be brilliant. Now keep in mind, I'm not a writer, but to me, a basic outline would be you have an unnamed boy who is from a poor background telling his parents how he had a dream that he was really famous, and was able to make so many people happy. When his mother asks him how he did that, have he say he doesn't know, but he really wishes he could make everyone happy and spread joy everywhere. The film could then flash to him trying different things trying to make his wish come true over the years. Show him trying to be a magician, but fail. Show him trying to write songs, but he sounds terrible, and can't sing. Show him try and act, but he isn't able to remember his lines, and constantly misses his mark. Throughout all this, we can see this boy who is only referred to as Dizz (a nickname of sorts) constantly write new ideas in a notebook, a notebook that Dizz also doodles in. Nothing too extravagant, but there are drawings of cartoon dogs, mice, cats, and ducks. You could have this boy then be in university, doing a degree that he isn't passionate about, but he knows will get him a job, and have a friend point out that the drawings are good, and ask if he's tried animation. Then you can have him try it out, like it, join other animators, try and make shorts, but they fail, before the boy decides to give it one last try at an animated short, and this time even make a company so he can get investors to make the film better than the previous attempts. Long story short, the film is Steamboat Willie, the studio is Disney Animation Studios, and the boy is revealed at the very end to be Walt Disney. It's an idea that you could take creative liberties with, maybe make it that the other shorts failed because of things like studio meddling from whoever he could work for, or other things, essentially making a Disney Animated film about Walt Disney himself. It's not a great idea, but it could work
Or like the godmother from shrek, yes she does, but very conditional. And that he , dunno but he exploits wishes, and takes the energy. Like we got the brainwashing already there,
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Honestly the whole “wish at 18” thing makes me feel like they could’ve done a whole story about seeing the magic in life even as an adult.
I would have liked it better if it was a '1 wish per citizen' rule so you'd have a more spread out age group of people who want their wishes granted. Many people would be cautious and safe up their wish for something really important and only a couple of wishes were granted each year because of this. But what if a natural disaster strikes and a lot of people are suddenly wounded and homeless etc and all the people who haven't used their wish yet come flocking to the king to heal their injuries or fix their houses and their shops. If magic itself corrupts you if you use it too much then you could still have a benevolent king who accidentally turned evil because he truly wanted to help out his people. You could also have a fun point with the grandpa who, at a hundred years old, still never had his wish granted because he had saved his up. At the end the king would lose his magic and Asha can lament that despite he efforts into fixing everything her grandpa's wish could never be granted. It could be a nice moment where he could tell her that he had a beautiful fulfilling life and he didn't need a magical wish to make it so. Bonus points if he tells her that in a crowd so that other people hear it and learn this important lesson as well. Yeah I put too much thought into this
@@Cheshiregrinn91 I'd honestly love if you put even more thought into it cuz I really enjoyed reading your comment!
@@Cheshiregrinn91 5 minutes of thinking from you is literally more thought out than this entire movie
@@Cheshiregrinn91 WOW! It can be such a great movie!😍 And it definitely catches magic of old Disney way better than the current Disney🤦♀
@@Cheshiregrinn91 the fact that if disney went with your idea then the movie undoubtedly would have been WAY more of a success is crazy to think about
How fitting that the title of this movie is "Wish", the name of an online store also known for cheap, lazy and sub-par products.
This has to be the best comment I've seen in regards to this film, bwahahaha
And that’s why in some European countries, they’ve changed the name! Oh how I wished it would had an alternate title like « Star » « Desire » or « Hope » for avoiding any confusion with *Wish: The Online Shop website* and yes Asha means Hope in Indian. 🇮🇳
And this is why one-word titles are awful and we need to go back to actually good movie titles that actually explain the movie.
@@bracken8782 When Frozen came out a decade ago in 2013, most countries kept Frozen while in Nordic countries it was called Frost but some European countries used The Snow Queen original title that it was meant to be.
I bet Disney’s shareholders WISH that these flops were cheap.
It's interesting you mention how quiet the children were in the theatre, because this was my experience when I saw the debut. When I saw Wish in the cinema, the audience was dead silent, it was an eerie experience, I have never experienced an Disney film with such a quiet crowd, even the children the were silent, that pretty much sums up the utter ineptitude that Wish achieved. Funny enough, Chris Pine had started in the Dungeons and Dragons film earlier this year, and it had better fairytale storytelling, magical elements, and practical effects, things would make Faerun come alive, Wish pales in comparison to the menagerie of the D&D film, and past animated Disney films.
People complain about kids crying and running around in a theater. And now it’s a bad sign to have a quiet respectful audience? 😂
@@MrShinyArceus There's a clear difference between a kid laughing at a joke and a kid playing tag in the middle of the movie
@@MrShinyArceusI mean, if your movie has jokes and no one laughs, perhaps that has to mean something?
When I saw this movie the only time. The kids spoke up is at the end credits when they showed the old characters.
The Dungeons and Dragons movie was amazing! My only complaint is we didn't get a flashback of the Paladin killing a Beholder with a gourde. XD
Still can’t believe that they actually had a good idea for this movie. In the art book, the queen and the king were supposed to be villains. So that would make them the first Disney villain couple. the star was going to be a star boy that helps the girl and they both, slowly fall in love. And the designs looks so much better, but they threw all that way.
Not to mention King Magnifico and Queen Amaya having an evil sidekick cat.
it would’ve been 50000x better if they did that. why did they scrap it??
@@mifflezz executives and producers wanting to keep it safe and bland, probably
AN EVIL SIDEKICK CAT? we were robbed 😭@@DeadmanInc336
Every time I remember the potential romance we could’ve had, I wanna cry 😭
at my movie I watched a girl who was so passionate at the beginning (literally raising her hand when the kings asked "who wants their wish granted"), to being restless and bored half-way through 🙃 I really want to call Wish "baby's first disney movie" but I don't even think kids deserve Wish when other disney movies exist
that is heartbreaking!
That's so incredibly sad.
Sounds like a normal iPad baby, what's wrong?
@@TSMSnation kids don't have good attention spans to begin with, they're not necessarily 'iPad babies' for being bored halfway through a movie that's widely panned as downright bad.
At this point Disney has just completely forgotten about the saying *”quality over quantity.”* Did you know that the writers at Disney were once given 6 whole months to write out a story? Why have film companies just completely forgotten about that it doesn’t matter how long it takes to make a film, all that matters is that the film turns out good! If a movie is good, it’s likely that people are gonna watch it! Many people today don’t care as much anymore about deadlines, THEY JUST WANNA SEE A GOOD MOVIE!! Plus it gets people all the more hyped up when the movie does eventually come out! The only way Disney can save themselves now is if they just stop, take a step back, and reevaluate everything and start fresh. Because what they’ve been doing is getting exhausting to watch.
Now We have Check Boxes base don Politics and AI Writing...
6 months is an insane amount of time especially given how they were pressured by executives and marketing to change the movie around anyway. We could have had a human star, which would have given some great character moments with Asha, but noooooo. They wanted to be able to sell plushies of star. I hope Disney revamps their formula it just isn't working when movies like Spiderverse, The Bad Guys, TMNT, and Puss and Boots are showing out.
Even on low quantities, there wouldnt be quality.
@@skwills1629and iger's political blunders
The older movies are extremely re-watchable and so charming it's no wonder people wanted to buy all kinds of stuff related to them.
They were fun, endearing and sometimes horrible things happened because it was needed for the story.
This sounds so... bad.
They should have had Asha be the villain. A Disney movie from the villain's perspective. He's only granting wishes that help the kingdom much to his frustration but he granted a few wishes that hurt people, maybe even ended his brother's life. Imagine how cool that would be. So she's trying to find a way to give everyone what they want and he's trying to stop her and keep the kingdom from falling apart.
You could even have a redemption arc as she realized she was the one in the.....oh, that's why they went with a half arsed lazy plot with enough holes to drive a mack truck through.
Honestly, that sounds like a REALLY GOOD plot and could have a lot of character development! Asha believing she's helping people by granting their wishes but not knowing how dangerous it is to do so without any consideration, and the king trying to convince her she's doing the wrong thing and wish granting could ultimately lead to chaos. Then maybe Asha could realize not all wishes are good and the king could let go of the trauma caused by his brother's death. Idk- I just really love how much more complex character you gave to the blank canvases of "characters" presented to us in the movie lol
Great story idea 👍 very creative
@@Bear_Song Thank you. It's ultimately just a little tweak of the Disney formula. Really, stories should teach lessons and the greatest lessons are it's OK to be wrong and to forgive yourself no matter how big the mistake. That's where I started from.
@@angrytheclown801 👍
You know that was a running theme of the Kurbe games right? (As in pink ball with vacuum apatite) The hero thinks they're doing good, only to find the 'antagonist' was preventing a worse threat from escaping and the real villein appears.
I kind of thought that’s how it was going to go just from the scene they released when he tells her that he holds onto certain wishes and she was pushing the whole “everyone deserves there wish”. I can’t even tell you the plot
It’s weird how a 9 minute short is better then 1 hour and 40 minute movie.
Wait which short
@@fredbearchannel976i think the once upon a star live action animated hybrid short about the Disney characters preparing to take an anniversary photo
I felt more from watching a mashup video on YT than from 'WISH'...
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@@Foxy967You mean "Once Upon a Studio"
@@benthehalfbloodpirate Yes, that’s it, mb
if you look at one of the original plotlines, it features a mute star boy and how he has a romance with asha and it was really cute; it felt a lot like rapunzel and it would've been really interesting and inclusive. it pisses me off SO MUCH that disney threw that out for the sake of their formula, instead of trying to bring something new to their movies (especially for their 100th anniversary movie).
Don't forget we could've gotten a Disney villain couple
BUT... Disney had to go with their "feminist" "heroines don't need men cause they're their own man."
Star was mute? Wow, that's borderline ableist that they cut him out... Borderline.
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I feel like actually making the titular Disney Wishing Star a legit Pinocchio-style character would have been a perfect 100 year anniversary idea, especially with how prominent the song is in Disney's history.
the premise itself of the protagonist wanting to grant everyone's wish just spells a whole lot of trouble. Imagine if someone just wanted to see the world burn and she grants that, NGL i would love to see that plot twist and make her the Antagonist of her own story.
That would be interesting lol
I mean, could be a very interesting sequel, her having to fix that sensible. And there explore wishes and potentional of good and harm
If Bruce Almighty taught us anything, it's that you can't always get what you want. Because if everyone gets their wish granted or prayer answered, it would be absolute chaos and society would collapse.
Yeah, we've already seen it in Bruce the Almighty.
Reminds me of the "yes to all prayers" scene in Bruce Almighty. Bruce eventually gives up trying to dedicate time to each prayer and it _immediately_ backfires within a day.
The fact that people actually FORGOT this film was even out really says a lot about Disney’s current state.
Not gonna lie, the first time i heard that this movie even EXISTS was in the last video Dazz did where he mentioned that he couldn't watch it yet. Othere than that i have never even heard of this movie.
Disney needed something great, but what we got was an eh
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I had a dream that I watched this movie. I’ve only seen the trailers. Disney has possessed me.
i saw videos on it a while ago and just found out that it already came out just today
Any reason you've left this comment on every review of this film you can find?
I think the biggest fix for this movie, is turning the book into its own character. The evil magic book. And I’m not even joking.
I think Disney could have had it both ways. Make Magnifico an understanding and slightly narcissistic villain who ultimately cares about his people, while also giving him a tragic backstory, and a redemption arc at the end.
Meanwhile, making the book into its own character can introduce Magnifico to the wonders of dark magic and be deliciously evil, because unlike the King, it doesn’t care about its people. Fact is, it doesn’t care about anyone, it was trapped in a display case for who knows how long.
Reminds me of the care bares movie actually! The book actually used to scare me when I was a little kid
This reminds me of the plot of Lego's: Nexo Knights and it is such a good concept. I wish Disney just used their brains or at least hired you lol
@@galacticmoonwolf8462holy moly i was just gonna suggest that movie! Same on that the book was creepy af lol.
Ironically a care bears movie had bettet plot than a Disney movie...
That reminds me of beauty and a beast the Christmas movie with Tim Curry 🤣
I kinda like the idea of Magnifico being the main villain but the book being the TRUE twist villain.
It's funny how Once Upon A Studio showed more of Disney's creative side for the 100 year anniversary, then the actual theatrical production.
I know right they put there ideas and effort to make that short film great 👍
Yeah exactly. Ive heard other people say this but I'm gonna repeat it cause it just fits so well.
Once upon a studio is like the Walt Disney Animation studio's 100 anniversary project.
Wish is like the Disney Corporation's 100 anniversary project.
Don’t forget Encanto
That short is the best thing they have made in years.
And it's only because it's
1.) Done in different styles with many of them 2D
2.) Has plenty of classic characters characterized faithfully
3.) Has characters interact off each other in interesting ways that make for a fun short
@@TheScarletSlayer encanto
Princess and the frog did better even tho its main theme is not wishing but rather that be careful what you wish for and its have a legendary quote that "You wish and you dream with all your heart. But remember, that old star can only take you part of the way. You got to help it with some hard work of your own." Soo what the actual heck happened to you disney?
It'd have been a better plot point if Asha was already an apprentice to Magnifico at the beginning of it. She idolizes him, is convinced of his cause and smooth talks the citizen in a "No worries! Magnifico can solve anything! Just wish for it!" But then she slowly wakes up and createw conflict yadayadayada. But her doing an interview and immediately gets told the most secret of things is weird
Spoilers below...just warning you
Walt Disney himself was famous for cutting things out, which had already been animated because he wasn't happy with the story. in fact he was almost ruthless with it, and he taught the ones coming up, to have that element of changing things which were not working
look at Beauty and the Beast, and "Be our guest," which was written for Maurice when he came to the castle, until they realised that it was being wasted on him, and needed to be Belle instead. they removed the cell of Maurice, and reanimated it for Belle because they realised that it worked better whilst it was being animated! (this is an edit, thanks to a commentator below)
a better example (this is an edit that came to me later) is Snow White and the animation for "Music in your Soup" was done, it needed to be coloured and cleaned, but it was done. it took months, and Disney cut it, because it wasn't working. even if the song is lovely
but this, this is lazy. this is trying to tap into nostalgia instead of doing something original
and i looked this up, but spoilers below
the 100-year-old grandad's wish, was to create something that inspired future generations, and it was writing "When you wish upon a star"
the music from Pinocchio and the theme song of Disney itself
like are you kidding me, that's the wish.
the company may have thought it was patting itself on the back, like Bilbo, Frodo and later Sam writing the Lord of the Rings, which you get to see during the trilogy itself.
but it feels like a middle finger to the audience, like "This is the fairy story of the origin of all our fairy stories"
Walt Disney perfected the magic he wanted to show people. These people now are just.....putting whatever the kids will eat up and not bother remembering.
Well the fucker is dead & the movies in the Revival era are better than anything the Renaissance had ever
I didn't even bother to read the second paragraph because the story as soon as I read the first sentence I was already bored. Comes to show Disney is just so bad when storywriting nowadays
That was the wish? What a slap in the face to the the writers of the original song, Leigh Harline & Ned Washington. Leigh was in the same church congregation as my grandparents when my mom was a baby. These were real people!
I think those references to past Disney movies are up for interpretation. It's been said that they're nothing more than cheeky references to Disney Animation's past films (since it's been 100 years after all), but I wouldn't blame anyone for thinking Wish is trying to weld every past movie together into a single canon/timeline by becoming its origin story (much like that Pixar theory). It certainly can go both ways, and I could see Disney outright confirming and doubling down if Wish were a success, just as much as I could see them denying and backpaddling now that it's a flop; a "say what the audience wants to hear the most" type of thing.
The scene where you see him and Asha where they are singing in the beginning he is singing about protecting all of the wishes meanwhile she sees her grandfather's wish and literally no joke runs through all of the other wishes scattering them knocking them all over and only grabs her grandfather's wish singing about only preserving his wish.
It's interesting to see the "hero" act like a villain as usually it's the villain who will smash wishes but it's a sharp contrast to see the villain protecting and caring for every wish and the hero trodding underfoot everyone else's wish to serve her own ends.
That couldve been a good moral the main character appreciating all wishes and all people but no the king had to turn cartoonishly evil and asha is just morally pure and learns absolutely nothing
Remember when movies had characters learn and grow? I miss that
Disney has had this issue with character morality in recent years. The newest Black Panther and Spider-Man come to mind. Both end witch main characters going evil for a moment against the antagonist but it doesn’t feel like they learned how not to be evil, just paused as their antagonist was already in a position of submission. It’s kinda disturbing to see these movies lose the morality of what makes a good protagonist.
Exactly - or that the supporting cast can learn from each other? Shang, despite being the best warrior there, learned from Mulan. Meg learned from Hercules. We can have a talking animal, but I want a friend or love interest to really strengthen it better.
@@ellatino55which spiderman movie? There are so many lol
@@capuchinosofia4771 Marvel’s latest spider man.
Across the Spiderverse is not a collaboration with Disney.
There's also Home Sweet Home Alone, where the Protagonist picks up a lost heirloom, and the villains are actually trying to take it back as they lost the heirloom, and in the end, they get arrested. Worse still, they're just a married couple, not career burglars.
Disney should’ve made another Fantasia for their 100th anniversary
but that would be....common sense.
but then they'd f that up too.
I wouldn't say no to a Fantasia 3...
oh god that would have beed such a good idea 😔
they didn't hire talent...they hired activists this is why their movies suck
I don't think a "fantaia" would've done anything seeing how it would've been activist driven.
there is no more talent at disney
Honestly I feel like Disney’s “Enchanted” was a much better movie that could have been a homage for their 100th but instead it came out way before it’s time and was amazing! Now we have Wish to use as the 100th anniversary movie and it would never live up to the expectations that every other good Disney film created before it. Honestly sad to see a big film company known for good movies for so long, fall.
I agree 100%
I really like reading the comments of these videos because people share their own ideas on how to improve the film, and they all sound like better movies. Personally, I like the idea of the star being some prankster who tricks Asha into granting everyone's wishes, no matter how terrible they may be. And King Magnifico and her friends have to stop her or something.
So rip off calsifer of howls moving castle but more as joker, interesting.
Same here. I enjoy hearing other people’s ideas on how to improve it.
Ok that idea actually sounds good and way more fun that the star just suddenly appearing and agreeing with the protagonist without leaving much of an impression
So - the heroes of the story (Asha and her friends) are actually the villains who made the arrogant - but largely benevolent - king into straight up evil because Asha didn't like how he ran things; which forced him to use a cursed book after he felt threatened (which corrupted him completely)? And his wife, who somehow gets a free pass despite the fact she was probably well aware of how her husband handled the wishes all this time and did nothing to stop him - both doesn't even try to find a way to stop the corruption from taking over her beloved husband, but willfully allows him to be sealed away and sends him off to the dungeons (I.e. She betrayed her husband by turning traitor to save her own skin)?
What a lovely story to tell the kiddos. /s
The queen actually did try to find a way to stop the corruption, but it's stated that once you embrace forbidden magic you're bound to it for eternity
@@jennypickle I wonder who made that rule or who made the Forbidden magic, Forbidden. Normally that's the creator of the spell or the leader of the magic system in place.
@@jennypickle 'He's evil now, no point trying to help him, I rule now. Sucks to be him.'
I don't know if you're going to read this... But yeah the queen and king were supposed to be an evil due, this movie was supposed to be entirele in 2d and star was supposed to be a magical boy/deity that had a romance with Asha. Guys we were robbed. I want a remake of this movie with the actual original ideas. And whoever worked on this and decided that these were bad ideas and gave us this crap instead DESERVES to be fired.
Edit: Star is not her grandpa guys, he is her former love interest, the proof is the song Magnifico and Asha sing, which was originaly Star and Asha's duet, the lyrics were changed to fit the new movie, but the movie was originally a love song supposed to play at weedings. So please, stop saying Star is her grandpa or something, because he is not lol. Search the old version of the song and you guys will have an idea of how robbed we were.
it’s so disappointing how this movie could’ve been good
@@ssaintdolli there is a video were ir shows two guys reading e-mails from disney ex-employees and they are anonymous and they said they kicked out the omd guys that worked there for activists, and now the casting/hiring is based only on tidentity politics... Like bro, that's messed up. I don't mind representation but this is going too far... And this is only a problem in Disney America because per example Disney in Japan is still goin strong with Twisted Wonderland, Kingdom Hearts and so on that have a lot of progressive writing, and good story telling. You can do both. They just don't want to, and it doesn't matter who gets the job, if the only people getting it are unexperience people that don't care about what they are doing and oy care about pushing a message things are gonna get bad. I hate it here. Disgusting.
I’m gonna predict that Bob Iger made the bad ideas.
The star having a romance with Asha part is kinda weird but the rest of that is cool
We'll never see this version of Wish because that would mean admitting this movie was bad. And Disney would sooner go bankrupt.
It's a shame a celebration of 100 years turned out to be so generic and forgetable, even with all it had going for it. Cool hybrid animation, bringing back true villains, Ariana DeBose, and they still screwed up. Those songs actually felt AI generated. They need to start taking risks and changing up their formula, or they'll be left in the dust. I know some of us want that, but while I dislike the corporation, I still want the studio to do great things again.
Copy and paste much?
It's not a problem if I'm doing it to myself.
So do I.
@@DanGamingFan2406 I like this, but I usually just try to reword it. I want to know it reaches the people in a thread as well as people just coming to the video.
@@DanGamingFan2406 You are doing it for likes aren’t you?
I haven't watched the movie, but I bought the concept art book, "The Art of Wish". There is SO much missed potential. A lot of the designs were so unique, esepcially Star, who had so many other designs. And at one point, it seems like both the King and Queen were genuinely evil/selfish to some degree. But I guess it was cut in order to make it more "kid friendly" which I think is just stupid. And the concept designs could definitely translate well to 2-D animation.
What if someone's wish was for a mass extinction or a death of someone? I would've thought they'd do something about needing to pick out wishes because some wishes are morally terrible
You DARE to hypothetically tell an 18-year-old that their wishes and dreams for petty things and revenge are BAD??? That their teenage thought-process and beliefs might be FLAWED??? The anti-modern-Disney NERVE.
@@Nanixashireal
Not just terrible, but what if someone gave that wish up because they wanted some semblance of peace with their conscience? For them, having that burning desire to see humanity burn might be hurting them far, far more than having that sliver of their soul missing.
Instead most of the wishes we see are...first career choice. What. You come to a wish gtanting king and your wish is a career choice???
Something is WRONG with these people even before magnifico is involved
I think my headcanon rewrite of Wish would be:
- king was originally a civilian who fell in love with the queen when she was a princess
- queen also actually loved the king but the king didn't know that
- king sought out a magic book that grants magic for wishes at a price; he figured that if he only used it once to get his crush to love him back, he wouldn't fall under its corruption
- king and queen get married
- events of movie happen, King feels threatened by the presence of another magic user and fears losing his queen; he goes to use more of the book's magic and gets even more corrupted
- later King's magic is dispelled by Asha, but finds out the magic book had no bearing on his queen in the first place because the queen actually always loved him
- book is destroyed and king regains his senses and feels deep regret
- queen finds out what he had done, and he's permanently demoted from being a king while she takes over as queen, appoints Asha as her new court magician
- King gets his redemption arc in repairing his relationship with Queen simply as her husband, not a king. he's happier that way
THE END
That sounds pretty goid
That does sound better
already love it. the former king would be "royal consort" & with work would regain the love he had but this time properly
I love headcanons and rewrites for horrible characters
yes on all except the redemption
It just looks like a straight to DVD film you'd find in the $5 bin at Walmart.
DEFINITELY, also I love the ryuji pfp
THIS. Cause it honestly feels like something Netflix would just drop randomly which is an insult to Netflix because the Adam Sandler animated film Leo was surprisingly great.
Like
"Kiara the BRAVE"
This except those DVD films would probably be better than Wish
@@hp8167 The anime Pluto and Akuma-Kun were also great, Netflix is giving more experimental series a chance that normally would just fall under the radar (there is also the sequel to Scott Pilgrim vs the world and they got the entire cast of the life action movie as VAs)
The animation style was quite trippy. It felt like they were trying to mimic the Spider-Verse animation style other companies have been doing, but it just wasn’t working for them lol
they did and they messed it up because they scrapped the accents
why make a movie in the style but not make the characters fit the style with the accents spider verse did that
It feels off, some shots look better than others but maybe it’s the smoothness of the 3D character animation.
@@flare90 i agree if they just added 2d accents like how they did in arcane and spider verce like a cell shaded look or something like a water color shading line it would fit the water color background but they said NO basic 3D BABY!
They didn't commit. The background is fine and nearly works. It's the foreground that doesn't work.
Someone said the animation that looked like Sofia the First and Avena of Avalon from Disney Junior with an Instagram filter on it and now I can’t unsee it. 💀
They did the bare minimum with this animation they couldn't even bother to do proper lighting, especially in brighter scenes. Literally had so many references to figure out how to do 2D/3D hybrid animation (Puss in Boots 2 was right there y'all) there are literally tutorials on TH-cam for BLENDER and just… I have no clue what happened. It barely looks done, this looks like something they would have done before Frozen and Tangled.
I hate how Disney thinks they have to keep jingling the nostalgia keys in front of your face in order for you to keep paying attention to their work.
This is the only animated Disney film to use nostalgia. Plus it is their 100 year after all, they were going for a nostalgic feel
They did a bad job hangling the nostalgia keys imo. They want to dangle nostalgia keys on a 100 year anniversary movie? Ok. Jangle them hard. Make a chorus of jangling keys. Do ultimate showdown of Ultimate destiny, Disney edition.
It’s a real shame really. Ariana DeBose and Chris Pine were promising casting and first look screenshots from the film looked gorgeous. It seems like Disney just decided to play it wayyy too safe, perhaps because the movies where they take more risks like Strange World weren’t successful. But at least Strange World tried something new and may be seen as akin to Treasure Planet and Atlantis in the future where people recognise it as underrated. This film will likely be forgotten.
This was way better than Strange World! 😂
@@MrShinyArceusI haven't watched either of these movies but I would rather watch strange world cause like this commentor said, at least it's different with it's scifi/eco-fiction setting, while wish feels like a soulless shell of what makes a Disney movie magical.
Yeah I actually liked Strange World, it was at least unique
Maybe if they advertised strange world better people would’ve realized it released
See, what Disney is doing nowadays is giving out poor marketing towards their newer movies so that when they come out on Disney+, they'll be heavily streamed over there cause I guess they saw how successful Encanto was and decided to do it with their other films. And the sad thing is, it's working, as Strange World was the most streamed thing over there when it got to Disney+,but it received mixed reviews, and lost them lots of money. And it looks like they're doing the same thing here. What made Encanto good was the pacing and how they handled the characters, NOT some stupid marketing strategy that only exists to promote your streaming app. If they keep doing this, they'll lose who knows how much money. It's such a shame.
Asha's main goal was to get her family's wishes granted. Wishes they gave willingly, wishes they knew would probably never come because there are a lot of people and they are old.
Just because of this, Asha challenges a king who has never done anything wrong, who even lets the people live for FREE and accepts strangers in his kingdom every day, AND HE ONLY ASK FOR PEOPLE'S WISHES IN RETURN! HE DOESN'T EVEN DO SOMETHING SHADY WITH THEM, THEY ARE JUST THERE.
I like Asha to some degree, but god, she is so selfish and biased.
Yeah i didnt see what he was doing as so wrong hes not terrorizing ppl in fact its more of a Want Not Worry Not situation as he has them forget their desire for just one thing in exchange for board at his kingdom
Yeah he only turns evil because the plot said so
Like literally "oh no. One bad act and you're evil forever"
Why not? I got time.
And the entire second song of the movie was about how the king was literally going to protect these wishes with his life. And his very very vague motive actually makes a bit of sense because yes, people can want bad things. Honestly he just seems paranoid and it’s not like that’s hurting anyone.
Take out the evil book and Asha could’ve been the bad guy here💀
That's what annoyed me. They act like what Magnifico had done was barbaric (accepting the wish that the people gave to him, willingly; and making those whose wishes he didn't grant forget the wish so they could move on with their lives).
Asha's idea is actually pretty terrible - as even the most innocent of wishes could spell disaster if you don't weigh to pros and cons on what would happen if a specific wish is granted (whicb sounds like something Magnifico was doing with the wishes he got; only granting the wishes that were beneficial to the kingdom, which included his people, instead of granting wishes at random).
And it’s also the citizen’s choice to give him their wishes. They don’t even have to do that!
They always choose to though because who doesn’t want their wish granted?
Is it me or have all the little delightful clothing quirks about Disney princesses been removed from this new animation. My little nieces who went to see WISH noticed it and put me wise to it after they confirmed it among themselves. They were like Uncle why won't the princess wear a princess "spin around dress?" You see when these girls were small they loved the long flowing dresses that had movement and changed or reacted to characters every motion. Animation made dresses look and feel of the highest quality. As a princess walked the dress moved in ways that complimented the lady. The dress worn by this main character is dull, drab and lifeless as the drawing, voice acting and presentation. This is HOT Garbage!
I love your nieces' input and they're 100% right!
Asha having such a bland dress and then _not_ getting a dress transformation or upgrade or anything is just nuts to me! Even with the most cynical look at it- that being that pretty, sparkly, flowy princess dresses will sell like hotcakes to little girls- it just makes no sense. You're telling me that the "princess" in your 100th anniversary film that's allegedly a love letter to classic Disney ISN'T going to get a sweet dress transformation?
Bro even Rapunzel's is quite flat and I still loved it as a little kid, Asha's is just so boring- it's like she's a background character or smthn
I see you, I hear what you are getting at about the lack of whimsicality and this new lack of creativity and beautiful/aesthetic film art, but my initial response was gonna be:
"Yeah, because Mulan, Pocahontas, Moana, and Jasmine all had such flowy dresses... "
Sorry but not sorry enough not to actually say it because although you have a point I see you and your nieces are trying to get at, I think the dress is the wrong way to approach it. This is just a charmless movie in every way, highlighting the lack of the fun dress.
Modern audiences don't want "just" a princess anymore is why. But that being said I remember being a little girl obsessed with pretty dresses too, and Disney LOVES marketable things (the Princess line is their #1 seller) so I am surprised they didn't show a dress on her for one scene.
I just can't get over how there were so many obvious, easy ways to take the plot that would make it INFINITELY better and have an actual message, and they managed to miss them all to make the most boring, nonsensical and undeveloped plot ever. Like just off the top of my head(without even watching the film) they could've taken the plot into
1. "not everyone's wishes are good/non-conflicting and so we shouldn't grant all of them without thinking" message where, say, the star thing appears and starts granting everyone's wishes, turning their kingdom into chaos - they could still pull off the villain as the extreme opposite of that(paranoia that any wish could be malicious in some way so not granting them at all) and make Asha balance these 2 extremes
2. "you shouldn't rely on magic/third party to grant your wishes as you yourself have the power to make them come true" message where the king isn't really a villain but a ruler who doesn't want his people to become lazy and too reliant on magic, but at a midpoint of the movie Asha and the kingdom citizens overthrow the king and start granting all of the wishes all of the time, making the people exactly that - lazy and too reliant on magic, maybe even put a "even if you do everything people want all of the time, there will still be some who are unsatisfied and ungrateful" message in there. Asha could realise what she's done(idk, maybe make it so that the people have dried up the star's magic with their wishes and it almost fades or something) and work with the king to restore the kingdom to normal and inspire the people to work on their wishes themselves, as idk, the magic was inside of them all along or something, you know the drill.
And that's not even considering the scrapped concepts of the queen also being a villain, Asha being related to the rulers, the star being a magical boy, Asha's design screaming "calm and rational" and not a "qUiRkY GuRL" they made her to be, all of which again could've been used in infinite amounts of ways to make the end product actually be something. But Disney's current strategy seems to be "An interesting and meaningful idea? Quick, cut it!! We can't have that on our production!!"
Third option, have the king hording wishes be shown as bad, where it shown how cultural people are primed to give up the wishes but the wishes are something they need to know. One can very easily get into persona area where people are shown that even if they have bad wishes, they need to understand why they wish for things, and just removing the wish from a person is toxic brain surgery, the equivant of trying to treat mental illness with lobotomy. The person stops whining and seems to be better but it really done a lot of damage.
Make the kingdom into a stagnant town of stepford smilers. The keys are already there in the movie. We are noted by Asha, that she thinks not giving the wishes back to the person if they are not going to be granted is bad and one of the wishes is to inspire people, which the king fears could be bad. King not wrong that inspires people can be bad but someone who prevents the possibility of things becoming better because he scared of losing the status quo is textbook villain material. Heck maybe have Asha try to grant people wishes by giving them the tools to pursue their dream and try to encourage people to not give up their wishes and have the king react badly.
Actually that sounds like a great way to make a king in the bad guy, have him react badly to people trying to obtain their wishes with hard work.
The thing is the king wasn't being evil for the sake of being evil, there clearly was something traumatic, I was hoping that he would elaborate on what happened, because he would get fed up with Asha's ignorance on what he's doing. From my understanding, the king took peoples wishes to prevent what happened to his family, to his home, hence him calling some wishes too dangerous. When it says that the grandfathers wish is too vague and dangerous, he's saying that from the perspective that the wish could inspire people to revoult, kill etc. By making people complacent and ambitionless, he ensures that nothing bad will ever happen again.
My theory from what little they show in the film, an evil wizard destroyed the kings home and killed all his loved ones, leaving him alone. The evil wizard probably was narrowly defeated by a good wizard, where they both defeat each other in battle. The good wizard probably says some final words to the king, inspiring him to become a wizard etc, which also explains how he got the evil book, from the evil wizard. By outlawing magic, taking everyone's wishes, his kingdom theroritcally will remain peaceful.
The king wasn't evil, he was just traumatised with a warped sense of justice, he only became evil when he used the book
We asked disney for a evil just for being evil villian. I think they misunderstood us. This villian had so much potential but was terribly handled. Shame cuz hes my fav character
@BellaBeanBarksI don't think you even need to do that. The best Disney villains aren't evil simply for the sake of being evil. The best Disney villains are evil because they're too narcissistic and sociopathic to realize otherwise.
Disney is like a monkey's paw lol
Yeah, I really like Magnifico too. He has a very handsome design, but Disney just had to waste him.
@@DeadmanInc336I mean, a lot of the Disney villains of old were fully aware they were evil, and revelled in it. Maleficent is literally the Mistress of all Evil, and throughly enjoys it. What you described feels more like the terrible twist villains that have very lottle time to actually make a dent in their movie.
This is kinda sad to see that Disney, on their 100th anniversary just made a kinda bland movie, maybe Disney will make a comeback
Perhaps but it dosn't seem likely
I hope not. They're ACTIVELY making shit movies. They're going hardcore on the ESG....They're movies are shit, their parks are dirty, and they're bleeding money, I hope they go bankrupt. They think all of you are idiots.
Nah, at this point let's just forget Disney exists, they don't even deserve attention at this point, It's just sad.
@@Square1789 another thing to point out is that they are probably realizing this fact too, which is just going to get us more sequels and nothing new and interesting
@@Square1789 they seem to have “dark period” and a “comeback” every other decade. I think they’ll pull through eventually but it will take some time….
This movie would've been 100x better if Asha was from a another kingdom that was struggling and her goal for the movie was to get her wish granted for her kingdom to not suffer any more and get better but the king refused because another kingdom could be a threat to his kingdom. Smh.
Edit: Tysm for 500 likes omg
Your idea sounds better than the actual movie.
Huh that actually has potential
Unlike whatever we got, I was the whole movie like "nono he's got a point"
Oh wait you're onto something
Man that sounds good
@@P-P-Panda No it seems not. He's evil. He gave them wishes by no reason. It's just being lazy
Remember when Disney used to do extensive research for their films no matter the topic? Couldve had a more solid logic for the magic system in the film smh
Huh?
While listening to the King’s villain song, I kept thinking of how it could have been *peak* cinema and i thought of this:
Hes alone and we're about to find out that he's the villain and his wants/goals. Sweeping music plays loud for the lead in until he subtly gestures for it to quiet for him. And the song starts with him sweetly singing, "A dream is a wish your heart makes when you're fast asleep. In dreams, you can lose your heartache. Whatever you wish for, I'LL KEEP." And boom. A big band, full broadway, villain song.
Man. If only...
Sheeesh! That would give me goosebumps for real.
JESUS that’s SUCH a good hook!
Puss in Boots: The Last Wish is better in every single way (not to mention it is much smarter in its "wishes" theme, by asking us "Hay, are you 100% sure of that?" and showing that not all the wishes are good or should be granted) and a much better movie that celebrates 100 years of Western animation and Disney (Jack Horner's collection is full of movie references), by classic fairy tail formula, while providing a new unique spin on it, change my mind... all right you can't because that's just a fact. At this point, I believe that hacks from modern Disney make Encanto just by accident, or that there were one or few people behind the scenes who saved this movie from becoming jet another misfire like this thing.
Enchanto would have flopped if not for TikTokers milking "we don't talk about Bruno"
Encanto was saved by its soundtrack, as was Frozen 1&2.
Disney's princess movies need story or strong music to succeed. Tangled's songs are in the weaker end but the characters and story carried it.
Frozen's story was meh but it at least had the sibling bond and Let It Go and a few other hits.
Wish had an okay story, characters and songs, but nothing outstanding, and that's the problemm
Puss in boots the last wish was a better film to begin with
All the wishes in Puss in Boots got granted, just through the wishers' on work and a perspective shift
Finally someone who acknowledges Encanto existence in the midst of these flops
I don't get why they made the characters look 3D but then decided to make decor and landscapes look 2D, It just feels like the characters are moving in front of weird flat pictures..and the dark lines around the characters and decor look really weird too, in motion and also there is no sense of depht because of it.
it just looks like RWBY if instead of Red, White, Black and Yellow it was Purple, Blue, Teal and Pink
Something I'd like to see change, have it be that when he first established the Kingdom, he granted everyone their wish, but there was chaos. So his wish is to fix all the chaos, and he figures out how to make people lose memories when giving up their wish as well. He then sees if it would cause chaos or prosperity, and judges off of that. And the castle has zero mirrors, as he can't bare to look at himself for what his wish did to bring back peace.
Also, he immediately figures out it's Asha who brought the star down, and goes to her parent's house and asks them to tell Asha he has a message for her. There he lays bare all that happens with his Wish, and Asha points out he has full control over distribution, and he may not see everything clearly. The conflict comes from unitary control over advice from others. The king seems to be breaking down, not wanting another time of chaos, and Asha wants to free them all
Then have the wishes break free, and Asha and the people do see the chaos that ensues, but the King notices how people who can are using their wishes to try and mitigate the disaster. Somehow someway they manage to get those wishes back, and both sides agree the other had a point.
I actually noticed when he said "Amongst Us" Disney was probably avoiding the memes on purpose. They probably found it annoying 🤣.
i think they should learn from Ghibi , the last movie coming out soonish around December . It is all fully hand drawn , none did in 3d , it called The Boy and the Heron check it out ! they are quite harsh on keeping the originality of traditional hand drawn .
The boy and the beast?! Like soi kon deserves more, but hosada is my favourite of the miyazaki debate people.
The animation doesn't look too bad... If it had been by an upstart company with little to no experience.
So, interestingly, the "Frozen II" documentary series showed that each of the Disney movies get three passes before going into a fourth pass that's the final movie the general public gets to see. The first and second passes are watched by directors & writers currently working on other Disney projects who give them notes, and the third pass is then seen by a test audience where the movie gets to see how it tests in front of an audience.
While i've not heard any rumors or anything to really back this up, (I.E: Grab the box of salt and chug it while reading this) "Wish" feels like it got one, *maybe* two, passes and what we're seeing feels like a rushed production. I know Jennifer Lee isn't the greatest screenwriter in Hollywood, but even with the issues her movies she's written, like Wreck it Ralph, Frozen, & Frozen II, there was a lot of depth and stuff to talk about within those movies. Her script for "Wish" really feels like she had no time to flesh out the idea in it. On top of that, co-director Chris Buck is considered to be a great director in the animation industry, and this is not a good first outing for the other director and screenwriter, Fawn Veerasunthorn. Everything about this feels like this team should've had it in the bag, but the song-writer choices (who are more well known in pop than musical theatre) really dragged down a lot of this movie. It feels like they had to rush this out, and didn't get the time to make it. Does anyone else feel this, at all?
This!
Exactly. The only reason a movie could have a lot of plot holes was a pressuring deadline
@@fandroid6491 sometimes. Even directors who take their time, like Quentin Tarantino, have some plot holes or hiccups in their movies. Writing is very hard & remembering every single little bit that has to be payed off is beyond challenging. “Wish” feels more like the stuff they wanted to do didn’t get to be fleshed out before they had to get it out.
I would say that frozen 2 is pretty awful with just as many plot holes and issues as wish, and them sharing writers makes sense.
@@cdmp777 I disagree. Frozen II plays really well, but I can see people not liking it. However, *as many as wish*??? That's just not true in the slightest.
I mean… the king AND the queen could’ve been evil, together, just to be evil… don’t think that would’ve changed much, it just would have been a way more interesting dynamic than “just this one evil guy”, probably.
That was in the concept art, but GOOOOOOOOD forbid modern Disney has good ideas...
Exactly!!! I was pretty sure that there was a point on the video where Dazz implied that for some reason this wouldn’t have worked, and that’s why I commented this, but now I can’t find it 😭
Also i love a villain with a point, like i expected magnifico to be that and turn batshit crazy evil cuz he got mad/frustrated due to people always relying on him
@msk-qp6fn That is SUCH a good concept!!! Should’ve hired you to work on Wish tbh because that sounds so much more interesting than what we got. Even if it’s probably too “sympathetic” for some people, it actually has substance and Wish needs that baaadly
what annoys me is that this movie should've been in the works YEARS ago. Instead it feels like it was started six months ago. They literally could've just opened brothers grim and picked one of those stories. Or made a story ABOUT brothers grim and disneyefy it. Literally anything but what they chose to do.
Also Magnifico would've worked better as a mother gothel type character. Gaslighting Asha into thinking that he can't grant all the wishes because if he grants them all people will get hurt. He shows off one wish out of thousands that's someone wishing harm on someone else and Asha's on board until she learns how few and far between those wishes are and that it's easy to just, check what the wish is before granting it or something.
Anything but what we got
I think disney just needs to take, like a year to step back and figure out what on earth they should do to fix their company. They just finished their 100 year anniversary and now would be a great time to reset and reevaluate their strategy.
That or they may actually fall to dust. I guess 100 years is a long time to keep going, and at this point its a suprize they are.
Probably fire everyone that's been in charge of the sequence of major fails and start over. Completely stop with the live action and recasting established IPs. Iwájú was fantastic. It felt grounded and I thoroughly enjoyed what felt like a true passion project of African culture and was only disappointed that it was so short. I would love to see more original stories told that explore black culture in a similar sense. The Princess and the Frog was also done very well with the Louisiana background, then you also have Encanto, Coco, and Moana. They've proven they are capable of telling cohesive and organic stories that are rooted in minority lore. Continue building on that aspect while not being afraid of telling quality white stories too. We can coexist and share this space and it will improve the quality if they don't try to tick all the boxes to appeal to everyone with every freaking movie. Too many chefs in the kitchen, fingers in the pie, etc... leads to everyone feeling unsatisfied. Pick a target audience or basis for the story, commit to it, and give a solid narrative with good music and animation and it will be well received.
After watching the movie, me and family had a pretty lengthy talk about how little was actually in this movie. My mom was genuinely confused how it made it fully through production with it’s so SO many plot holes.
And I only caught like 2 references.
Tbh the credits were easily the best part of the movie. I’m not even trying to be bitter. pointing out the Disney characters as they showed up on the credits was better than the movie experience.
Writers, actors, the animators went on strike, which is why the movie has terrible wriitng and looks unrendered.
Little? Plot holes?
i watched this movie on field trip my work took after school care kids on. while i was watching it i was mostly happy the kids stopped yelling and screaming, but there was a moment when Asha's family escape to an island nearby, at which point i thought "maybe there's a rebel group on the island, or some other pariah group" because surely Asha is not the first person to question the kings authority, or question the idea of giving up your wish. not real, didn't happen, impossible, nuance? what was i thinking?
World building, that is something that needs to happen for a fantasy film. How did Disney just forget that, maybe its because they have been focusing on rehashing their classics (the live action remakes). Also, Disney knows they can put out garbage at this point as they know people will go see it anyway.
I'm hoping to bring my own characters and their world to the public someday
I've done so much world building and if I can gt thm out thre it would be so exciting
The Mario Movie did a way better job in terms of world building.
@@kaitlando636 don't ever pitch them to any studios or executives or even anyone on social media without sending yourself postmarked proof in the mail that the idea is yours. use the poor man's copyright, look it up! then if someone ever shows up with your idea who you have proof you spoke to you can prove your ownership. studios will absolutely just steal otherwise.
@@peachy_lili ok. Tysvm
@@peachy_lili I'm autistic and have trouble with socialization
I wouldn't be sure where to begin or wht I should even do lol
Hi Disney, you can fix your story with a very simple change: in order to grant wishes magically, the king captures and kills the wishing stars. Done, you're welcome. Most basic plot ever: complete.
I am not sure I like this, I prefer more playing up the king control freak and effects of giving up a wish more. Make it clear that depression is a common issue due to giving up one wish but one is unwilling to admit to it, because they are susposed to be happy in a magical kingdom. Make the king react badly to suggestions of social change or doing things in ways other than he views best. In short, make it clear that wishes are important things to not be thrown always causally and the king is a tyrant who prevents wishes asides from what he sees as right from being granted, even if those wishes are not relaying on king magic to be granted.
Heck it can be woke, maybe a woman wants to be a knight but that is seen by the king as disruptive to the social order, king not even trying to be sexist here, he is trying to keep the status quo comfortable the same.
Or it could be he's taking the wishes to stay in power and he's lying about any chance of getting there wish granted and asha figures out about it because she doesn't have a wish or she already had her wish granted by the stars
@@brendenhawley2225playing up the control freak angle would certainly have beem better, but at this point ANY actual villainy would be an improvement over the "morally grey hero the plot railroads into being a milquetoast villain it proclaims irredeemable" they accidentally created.
When the kids are sleeping during the movie, you know you it’s bad
They keep cutting to that burn tapestry and that usually implies he's not only telling his backstory from his perspective and there's something more sinister about his backstory out of sight like maybe his family lost everything because of their actions in a rebellion caused but they just like never elaborate.
I got more excited by recognizing Ganon’s theme playing in the background of this video at one point than I did watching any marketing for this movie 😅
Same with me and the Shantae and the pirate's curse music lol
Same about danganronpa and miitopia music like seriously
I hope, despite this failing they continue to explore and work on this 2.5d art style. I like it, even if kinda meh sometimes, i think it has huge potential to be something amazing with more work poured into it.
i agree but the fact they removed the 2d accents on the characters was a bad move it would look way better if they just did that
I believe the movie failed because they played it too safe, unfortunately corporations have a tendency to take the exact WRONG lessons away from how well or poorly a movie does. The fact that they took any minimal risks at all will more likely be blamed by Bob Iger and his fellow executives over the fact that they didn't do enough to make this film stand on its own two feet.
@@colbystearns5238 those are straight facts
@@garygearboy1358 yeah, probably. And while I do agree, I would say most 'newer' style looks horrible at first. (Not all obv but look at old school 3d lol). I think with time one studio will do an incredible job if they haven't already. Even this movie has some very lovely compositional shots, so it's not completely without some artist merit. It just fails more than it succeeds.
@@sandwich3044 I agree as styles change and evolve some wont like it but some ill love it its all on opinion and now ive seen stuff about the film it has some good but some bad stuff in it but i agree it succeds and fails at some things
When are we going to get a badass villain back like Frollo or Scar or Dr. Facilier?
Frollo ispathetic,but scary, and he is humanized, but good in a still villain way. There is thought to make frollo humanized but so much worse for it.very real, scary so.
I think the king had frollo like potential as zealot if they had given him the needed build up, and like less rushed and messy of a production.
"100 years of wondering what they're gonna screw up next"
Couldn't have said it better myself
The (most likely) reason Wish released 'late' in the UK is not because of any changes made to the film, but because in the US this week is the week of the Thanksgiving holiday. American schools were off on Wednesday, which is why the film was released on that day and not the customary Friday. However, schools in the UK were not off, so there would be no benefit to releasing a kids' film on a day there would be no kids to see it.
Release windows can be odd though. Other films have had way more time between their US and UK release dates. For example, Coco released Thanksgiving 2017 in the US, and it didn't reach the UK until January 2018, and despite having a much larger gap between releases I don't recall there being any changes made to that film.
Yeah, I didn't expect anything to be changed between the US and UK releases. Movies usually come out later here, especially Disney films. The only change I can even remember from recent Disney movies is Zootopia being called Zootropolis in the UK (I guess a 'metropolis' pun worked better than a 'utopia' pun on test audiences here?)
I knew something was suspicious when I saw the first trailer. There is no reason the animation style has to look this unpolished when Treasure Planet is a 3D and 2D movie made in the early 00s.
I knew right after I saw the trailer for the first time that the movie was going to suck ass
@@ChaosRebirth417
I'm not the only one! I didn't like the art style even if it was going for a cell shaded look or whatever it didn't have enough low/high lights.
If an ANIMATION STUDIO, especially the biggest one at that, doesn't care about how the animation comes across then they aren't going to care about the writing and everything else that goes into making a movie. (Including paying people properly and giving realistic deadlines)
I think that some Disney executive heard what everyone was saying about them, and tried to make a movie with everything they wanted... but then forgot to make a good movie.
your throwaway suggestion of 'loyal wife' being hypnotised/the king's wish could have been really good
Walt Disney: *dies*
The hole world: *crying*
The Disney company 63 years later: *becomes corrupt*
Walt Disney: did you not learn anything
the ending really reminded me of the lorax ending, had to stop myself from laughing
LET IT GROWW🗣️🗣️
@@lilac3266WE’RE GONNA LET IT GROW WITH THIS ONE!!!!?!!? 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥❗️❗️❗️🥶🥶🔥🔥
You know songs in Disney movie are in big trouble when Phineas and Ferb (which literally came from Disney too) had better and memorable songs than Wish especially coming from Doofenshmirtz. Doofenshmirtz telling his backstory through songs way better than whoever this movie villain was 😂
Tbh the main thing about this movie that’s bothering is the fact that it had a villain song titled “This Is The Thanks I Get” and it COMPLETELY fumbled the bag so hard. Like it’s baffling how bad the song is. I’m astonished that Disney, the ones who made “Be Prepared” and “Poor Unfortunate Souls” and “Friends on the Other Side” and “My Lullaby” managed to make such a bad villain song, it’s one of the things Disney is supposed to be good at! How do you mess up a villain song with such a badass title, this movie should have been awesome for that song alone! Disney is fumbling hard and this awful excuse of a 100th anniversary film shows it entirely.
With this song, if they changed the tone to be more like Scar's song, but kept the same animation expressions it could've worked way better, because from what I saw in the movie the villain actually had good expressions but just the song being so upbeat made it contrast awkwardly
Some people speculate that AI had something yo do with it.
Tbf "Disney" didn't make the songs they just hired really good people ans gave them time before. I feel like this movie was manhandled by commitees and execs to appeal to everyone possible so now it's just bland everything, including music
Woah.
The cut into Encanto and then back to Wish was like- surreal.
The visual quality spike in Encanto and then the visual quality just plummeting in Wish.
This is what happens when Disney lays off so many people- also even the ppl working on it tweeted about how it’s so sad it was more about the celebration of the _corporation_ rather than the company or ppl/soul/whatever
Because all the wishes We see Magnifico grant where super achievable I thought there might be a twist like the rush of there passion returning combined with funding from the king was enough to fulfil the ones he did and he actually couldn’t grant wishes, like he could do illustrations and was rich but not much else and it was mostly a ploy to stop the to many citizens from getting ambitious enough to rise above their stations but I guess that was to much plot to expect.
Or maybe make a point of how the culture of the kingdom makes people think they have to give up a wish instead of working on it them self, and Asha could encourage people to encourage others to work on their wishes instead of giving it up.
The king villain moment could have him going control freak when he starts to get the sense the kingdom was acting on it own instead of relaying on it for everything.
Basically Asha the good parent who helps the kids get a good position to work hard on their dreams and teaches them to think critically.
And magnifico is the bad parent teaching the kids they can accomplish nothing without him, so they better unthinkingly obey everything he tells.
They literally have subtitles on their villain’s song 💀
Really? I thought that was a lyric video on TH-cam
THATS IN THE MOVIE???
Wait it’s IN the movie??
No, that's a lyric video.
Wish completely flew under my radar. Never even knew it existed, so I looked it up on Wikipedia, and the story summary seems mid.
“Mid” 🤓
@@MrShinyArceus did you just unironically use the nerd emoji? Eww.
@@MrShinyArceus don't be that guy
I really thought Magnifico was gonna be a great character. Similar to what you said about the wishes clashing.. I thought he'd be someone who would curate wishes for better outcomes and NOT keeping it for himself because he finds them as a personal threat. And a conflict I had in mind was some wishes are so volatile that he is force to not grant them and part of the lesson would have to be acceptance.. maybe Magnifico is related to the stars given the responsibility to have a connection to the people, a bridge (similar to Elsa in Frozen 2) but his responsibility has gotten too heavy causing people to hate him.
It just didn't make sense that people still love him after not granting their wishes 😭 and them not remembering their wishes is so lazy to me.
I'd like to point out how bad Asha's hair physics are.
Braids do NOT move like that. they are way too damn heavy to flow in the wind like that.
Wish was one of the most disappointing films I have ever seen. It’s a shame because I actually was looking forward to this one. Lazy references, animation that is good on paper, but execution could have been better, a large cast of uninteresting characters, unfunny jokes, and writing that is shocking bad for Disney. Seriously, they haven’t wrote this bad since Chicken Little. The lack of a message in this movie just rubbed me the wrong way, especially when Disney usually teaches the audience, whether a good or bad movie.
Honestly yes. And it's the only movie aimed at girls right now as Hollywood animation is now mostly boys movies and the next announced ones are for the dudes. I'm a girly girl and hate how I'm gonna have to go to watching baby shows because only babies consistently get content for girls. Families get mostly boys content or content that has a female main character but is literally in a story where you could replace it with a boy, it's just a "strong" woman in a normally male focused story that is completely tomboyish or tries to repress her femininity. I liked barbie and ruby Gillman, they were actually good (and barbie doesn't send the message that Ken is evil despite what critics say, they both are toxic people for a lot of the movie and learn in the end), but they also embraced the girly aesthetic instead of making girls who are feminine a joke or the villain that radfems are meant to boo at. Wish should have been great but it ended up being meh.
For me, it isn't.
They could've done something clever where she beats the king and grants the wishes. They make it seem like it'll end on a happy note but boom it all starts falling apart and she ends up having to take the role of the king.
Drop a massive plottwist ending or anything entertaining -_-
I was thinking about that too. I thought that would happen to make the whole film more memorable. Considering the mid-ness of the film. I would like it to be a loop of trama, turning asha into a new king(I forgot his name) and there will be new asha to continue the cycle
If there is a sequel sure, you can do that in it even. Classic setup.
I never thought I’d miss old Disney. I was happy to see them making new projects with new ideas, but now….
Hey Encanto exists
@@DORAisD34D I meant specifically this movie, but you are right. It do certainly exists.
making the goat an adult comedian was a MASSIVE MISTAKE. SHoulda been a Flounder/Simba type charachter
Wow, this looks unfinished. This is like if a rough, unrendered draft got released to theaters. It looks awful.
Chicken little's wish was more meaningful in his bad movie than all the wishes in this 100th celebration
The initial idea for Wish sounds perfect for a 100th anniversary film. Star was going to be a shapeshifter with a personality like a fusion between Peter Pan and the Genie, he was going to be Asha's love interest, and the king and queen were going to be an evil couple. I'm so disappointed they didn't I'm going to write my own musical movie using that premise because it needs to exist in some form.
Did you write it?
@@sunny-gt7qw I'm writing about 15 of my own stories as it is. Writing my own story that uses elements that Disney was going to use but didn't is hardly "copying what Disney already wrote".
When you realize Super Mario RPG was a better Disney-style story involving a heroic princess who fights an evil king who is corrupting the wishes of the world.
After having left the theatre just a few hours ago, this could’ve had the potential to be the longest feature length animated Disney film imho.
Also, those visuals reminded me too much of Sofia The First for some reason.
Definitely feels like the first Sofia the firsts movies visuals but the rest of the series has way better animation and unlike wish, sofia the first is amazing with great music, fleshed out characters and world, and enjoyable writing.
Sofia the first despite being a disney junior cartoon was fun to watch the concept its self was fun and interesting and the occasional disney princess somehow in 3d didnt look bad and it gave good messages. Heck her aunt seemed to be heavily inspired by Mary Poppins.
The whole movie looks like they forgot to put their lighting engine on, nothing looks properly rendered
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Let’s be real, Spider Man Across The Spiderverse is the front runner for animated feature as of right now, and it’s not even close
Last wish is kinda close to it, but spider verse definitely comes out on top imo
Edit: puss in boots : last wish
@@NataliaLidia_06 that movie came out in 2022
when you showed the footage of encanto between shots of wish, it really stood out to me just how much less colorful wish is. it looks dull by comparison.
Glad I wasn’t the only one who immediately thought the first song was basically just Encanto’s first song made to fit. 😅
Singing in the void sounds like it could be a cosmic horror musical
Haven’t watched Wish, and this doesn’t help with any of the problems that were explained in ANY capacity, buuut… with the star granting the animals the ability to talk, but refusing to help the protagonist-maybe it granted their wishes because? There was genuinely no way they could just *learn to talk* on their own? Like, if the theme is “you can do things yourself! You don’t need some wish magic to do it for you!” then I guess the star could only be stubborn when you could go do a thing yourself. This opens up the funny alternative, though, where instead of the protag wishing for whatever she wishes for, she could have just gone “I wanna be a dragon :)” or something and had her wish granted
If the film spent half the time it spent making dumb references spending like a minuet more on each plot development it might actually be a half decent film. Like at minimum they needed to spend Another 30 seconds on her going from wanting to be his apprentice to wanting to take down the whole system.
A couple of months ago I had ChatGPT generate a multi-chapter 'epic' fanfic for me, and some of the scenarios it came up with were so bizarre, nonsensical, and out of character that it was actually kind of hilarious (at one point it had a character, who in canon is a murderous serial killer, doing the Chicken Dance for no reason). Also I discovered the things it considers too violent is a little uneven. It gladly wrote me a few paragraphs about a character nearly choking to death on a bottle cap, and the serial killer had a running gag involving punching a particular character in the face, but then a few prompts later it told me that someone running over a tomato plant with a car was too violent and it doesn't condone or promote violence.
I actually do know how to write since I do it as a hobby, so this experiment actually helped me learn some of the quirks and tells of AI generated stories. It's all based on algorithm rather than skill, so it follows a pattern that can get predictable after a while, even when it throws random curveballs at you like the Chicken Dancing serial killer. From what I've been seeing and hearing of Wish, it really does tick all of the boxes for some of the randomly generated crap that ChatGPT came up with during my experiment, so I really do think it was generated by AI and then 'cleaned up' by a human team as a quick cash grab.
What sucks is that King Magnifico has nice design and they gave him a wife, and Disney literally did nothing with both.
He's the first [disney] villian with a wife, and it goes no where. So disappointing. 😢
If the old guy has been waiting 100 years for his wish, but the king and queen are in their like.. mid 30s?? Does no one question thwir eternal youth?? Or maybe he was already old because the king said he granted 14 wishes, so hes waited as long as anyone else has when thw kingsom was founded... nothing in this movie makes sense istg
I would genuinely rather have once upon a studio somehow be expanded into a film than have this.
I haven't watched the film, but I thought one of the main topics tackled to this movie would be about some wishes being bad? They might have good intentions, but the wish would cause problems. Like maybe someone saying "I wish bees don't exist" because they are allergic to bee stings. The king can't grant a wish like that, it'll cause too many problems. 25:50 "All wishes are now granted." I refuse to believe no one had a bad/selfish wish. Unless bad/selfish wishes aren't permitted? But did they say that? And if they did, that's a pathetic excuse to avoid making the movie more realistic.
right?! Honestly Aladin tackled the idea of wishes so much better then this movie. There were rules, consequences and drawbacks to the wishes that were flushed out. Heck even Brave did a good job of handling the monkey paw situation of a naive wish going awry. Not sure why they decided to back pedal and dumb down the idea of wishes here.
Watching the trailers I thought the were making the king look evil, but actually have good intentions
The protagonist would get all the wishes would be granted for him to respond “what have you done?!”
With several wishes have major consequences: from wishes contradicting each other or some wishes being granted too late
Like in Bruce Almighty: Bruce takes over for God and eventually says yes to everyone’s prayers
So they have to fix everything their wishes have caused and everyone learns that not all wishes can come true
I was just telling my friend that this could have gone a different route and be brilliant.
Now keep in mind, I'm not a writer, but to me, a basic outline would be you have an unnamed boy who is from a poor background telling his parents how he had a dream that he was really famous, and was able to make so many people happy. When his mother asks him how he did that, have he say he doesn't know, but he really wishes he could make everyone happy and spread joy everywhere. The film could then flash to him trying different things trying to make his wish come true over the years. Show him trying to be a magician, but fail. Show him trying to write songs, but he sounds terrible, and can't sing. Show him try and act, but he isn't able to remember his lines, and constantly misses his mark.
Throughout all this, we can see this boy who is only referred to as Dizz (a nickname of sorts) constantly write new ideas in a notebook, a notebook that Dizz also doodles in. Nothing too extravagant, but there are drawings of cartoon dogs, mice, cats, and ducks. You could have this boy then be in university, doing a degree that he isn't passionate about, but he knows will get him a job, and have a friend point out that the drawings are good, and ask if he's tried animation.
Then you can have him try it out, like it, join other animators, try and make shorts, but they fail, before the boy decides to give it one last try at an animated short, and this time even make a company so he can get investors to make the film better than the previous attempts.
Long story short, the film is Steamboat Willie, the studio is Disney Animation Studios, and the boy is revealed at the very end to be Walt Disney.
It's an idea that you could take creative liberties with, maybe make it that the other shorts failed because of things like studio meddling from whoever he could work for, or other things, essentially making a Disney Animated film about Walt Disney himself.
It's not a great idea, but it could work
Or like the godmother from shrek, yes she does, but very conditional. And that he , dunno but he exploits wishes, and takes the energy.
Like we got the brainwashing already there,
Good note about the backdrops in songs! Even on TH-cam, good animatics use the environment in creative ways
Disney seriously needs to change. They need a HARD reset.
I agree.
Yea
It's time they let other studios rise.
Like DreanWorks and I’m sorry for saying this Illumination.