Nice job, thanks a lot for taking the time to document this, especially for recording while still up the mountain, before reaching the old MG Tower. Been up there several times years ago and I hope NS doesn't allow that building to get in much worse shape. 😔 It's a significant, historic tower for all the PRR and Conrail fans. Your video has that "feel" to it like we're right there in the cars with you and that was cool that they let you stand in the open doorway! 👍 Let's hope we don't have a three-peat derailment anytime soon!
Nicely done. Had heard that derailment on the VR cams, and was watching the cleanup on cam. Nice to see a different perspective, nice job getting it from both sides as well!
VIA has equipment that either has the old split-doors, where the bottom can be closed and the top could be open, or the "modern" cars that won't open until the signal from head end permits them to unlock. When they do a passenger stop, if anyone doesn't close their door quite right, a contact remains open, and the locomotive won't load, so they sit there until the person either slams the door closed for a good contact, or one of the enginemen walks back to assist in closing the door securely. So, unless you were riding on one of the old stainless steel cars, you'd never get an open-door shot like that on VIA.
@@moonlight_trains1 Thanks. Yes, I'm aware that THIS wasn't VIA. I was just saying that with the newer stuff, it's pretty much impossible to do that with a lot of modern equipment, including what VIA uses.
Wood chip hopper cars. But yes, nice to see them graffiti-free. It's a shame so many of the old fallen flag freight cars still out there have been permanently ruined by graffiti vandals. 😔👎🏻☹️
Great view up close to see the derailment. But another plus is actually seeing the entire view of the Curve with the park from inside the train. I would love to Ride this from Philadelphia to Pittsburgh just to see the Horseshoe Curve in person. I would be using Paoli as my Amtrak stop instead. Also was surprised they let you stand by an opened door while the train was moving to get a clear view. I would be scared to do that myself.
Jonathan Rinda Many years ago young and foolish I got on a freight train in Elko Nevada. It was hot so I sat in the doorway legs dangling over the side. There were to older more experienced rail riders in the box car with me. One looked at me and said “don’t do that “. I heeded his advice and about twenty minutes later the car was pitching and bouncing so violently that I have no doubt I would have been thrown off the train in the middle of the desert.
@@TheNemosdaddy Not saying I'm an expert. But I virtually guarantee you alot of folks at NS who ARE experts would tell you the same thing! It's just common sense.
@@TheNemosdaddy Whether one is a railroad expert or not, is irrelevant, it is simple physics involving mass, friction, and force vectors. And a practical experiment a child can comprehend would illustrate the principle.
@@TheNemosdaddy Does a person have to work for Ford in order to work on their F150 or understand how it works? Your argument fails on its first premise.
Derailment was at 8:40 the night before and was picked up less than 24 hours later. Never put empty centerbeams, Hoppers and Corn Syrup Tankers on the head end of a long train, pull it uphill, around tight curves--and not use helper locomotives on the rear. Stringlining---
@@wesleybehanna7916 I'm still amazed that it still happens here, light cars in the middle with a heavy train trailing w/ Pushers !! Doesn't take much to lift the wheels off !
I think someone needs to explain the physics of this accident! I understand how it happened but I think there are a lot of people that don't? These cars didn't accidentally derail off of the tracks, this train was built up wrong and all of these cars were just pulled over sideways off of its rails!
Polite question. I'm from England and retired. I'm also a huge rail enthusiast, what passenger trains- Amtrak or otherwise, travel over the curve please?
The only passenger train that now travels on on the horseshoe curve is the Amtrak pennsylvanian trains 42 and 43. These trains pass by in the morning and in the evening.
As soon as I saw those centerbeam flats behind the power pass, l thought why would they put those up there? That's not a good place to put them in a train consist, especially a train going uphill with that much tonnage and physical force pulling and pushing on it.
But the track still was being resurfaced and tracks 3 and 2 were opened later that evening...Running a Tamper and Regulator at night is no fun. These new High intensity LED light do make it easier.
@@wesleybehanna7916 yep, he also did that coming into Altoona. He's a very nice guy. Consider yourself lucky tho, because my footage from the Curve got corrupted for some reason, I'm kinda pissed
Took all that trouble to shoot the derailment from below, and you almost missed the whole closeup as you went by. You missed the first cars that derailed, and that was what I waited so long to see!
@@garman1966 he's not a professional he did his best get over it. he was traveling not familliar with the area., i appreciated him and thank him for trying.
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Nice job, thanks a lot for taking the time to document this, especially for recording while still up the mountain, before reaching the old MG Tower. Been up there several times years ago and I hope NS doesn't allow that building to get in much worse shape. 😔 It's a significant, historic tower for all the PRR and Conrail fans.
Your video has that "feel" to it like we're right there in the cars with you and that was cool that they let you stand in the open doorway! 👍
Let's hope we don't have a three-peat derailment anytime soon!
Thank you, I am glad you enjoyed it!
What an awesome conductor!
Nicely done. Had heard that derailment on the VR cams, and was watching the cleanup on cam. Nice to see a different perspective, nice job getting it from both sides as well!
Thanks, when I went on the train the conductor told us about the derailment. I was surprised I guess we got the right trip.
It was exciting.
Thank you for this. I really enjoyed it, and it helped me understand the situation better.
That was awesome the conductor let you get an open shot. I’d be too scared to do that.
VIA has equipment that either has the old split-doors, where the bottom can be closed and the top could be open, or the "modern" cars that won't open until the signal from head end permits them to unlock. When they do a passenger stop, if anyone doesn't close their door quite right, a contact remains open, and the locomotive won't load, so they sit there until the person either slams the door closed for a good contact, or one of the enginemen walks back to assist in closing the door securely. So, unless you were riding on one of the old stainless steel cars, you'd never get an open-door shot like that on VIA.
@@stanpatterson5033 i don't think that is via. this is not in canada.
@@moonlight_trains1 Thanks. Yes, I'm aware that THIS wasn't VIA. I was just saying that with the newer stuff, it's pretty much impossible to do that with a lot of modern equipment, including what VIA uses.
@@moonlight_trains1 This is in pa near Altoona
@@rob066101 yea it says it right in the title. VIA only supports Canada.
Great vid! And what a cool conductor!
A couple of old Southern boxcars with no graffiti. Back to the great old days
Jleed989 graffiti was probably face down in the dirt.
I think the graff adds pizzazz
Wood chip hopper cars. But yes, nice to see them graffiti-free. It's a shame so many of the old fallen flag freight cars still out there have been permanently ruined by graffiti vandals. 😔👎🏻☹️
Great view up close to see the derailment. But another plus is actually seeing the entire view of the Curve with the park from inside the train. I would love to Ride this from Philadelphia to Pittsburgh just to see the Horseshoe Curve in person. I would be using Paoli as my Amtrak stop instead. Also was surprised they let you stand by an opened door while the train was moving to get a clear view. I would be scared to do that myself.
Jonathan Rinda Many years ago young and foolish I got on a freight train in Elko Nevada. It was hot so I sat in the doorway legs dangling over the side. There were to older more experienced rail riders in the box car with me. One looked at me and said “don’t do that “. I heeded his advice and about twenty minutes later the car was pitching and bouncing so violently that I have no doubt I would have been thrown off the train in the middle of the desert.
Kinda funny really. Anyone who runs model trains could tell you what happens putting light unstable cars like that on the head end of a heavy train! 😉
Even more funny that another one has derailed again!! Empty Centre beams up the front.....
makes you wonder who's running the show at NS ??
Gregg :-)
I love how all you are railroad experts, yet none of you work in the railroad field.
@@TheNemosdaddy Not saying I'm an expert. But I virtually guarantee you alot of folks at NS who ARE experts would tell you the same thing! It's just common sense.
@@TheNemosdaddy Whether one is a railroad expert or not, is irrelevant, it is simple physics involving mass, friction, and force vectors. And a practical experiment a child can comprehend would illustrate the principle.
@@TheNemosdaddy Does a person have to work for Ford in order to work on their F150 or understand how it works? Your argument fails on its first premise.
It's not every day you see the aftermath of a freight train derailment while rolling by in a passenger train!!!😐😐😲...FWM...
@Dead Horse NS doesn't have precision railroading. CN, CP and CSX do
FWM?
FWM...???
3:41 One of those Amtrak conductors knows his name and that's Wesley
For a minute I was worried you were on the wrong side of the coach. I knew you were on track 1. Thank you for posting this.
Thanks
Derailment was at 8:40 the night before and was picked up less than 24 hours later. Never put empty centerbeams, Hoppers and Corn Syrup Tankers on the head end of a long train, pull it uphill, around tight curves--and not use helper locomotives on the rear. Stringlining---
I clicked on the timestamp 'cuz I was curious what would happen if you clicked on one that doesn't exist in the video. Nothing happened.
They're still putting empty center beams on the front as of today 7/22. IDK about tanks, & hoppers.
Wow you were lucky that you got that derailment clean up !!
Yeah I planned the train trip a few months back and once I got on the train, I got word that there was a derailment we were gonna pass by
@@wesleybehanna7916 I'm still amazed that it still happens here, light cars in the middle with a heavy train trailing w/ Pushers !!
Doesn't take much to lift the wheels off !
Beautiful Pennsylvania from the most historical part of Americana, the Horseshoe Curve! Wish I could have been on that train with a high def. camera!
I think someone needs to explain the physics of this accident! I understand how it happened but I think there are a lot of people that don't? These cars didn't accidentally derail off of the tracks, this train was built up wrong and all of these cars were just pulled over sideways off of its rails!
Yeah, empty flats.
In the front.
Is unstable.
great video Wesleys Trains :)
Polite question. I'm from England and retired. I'm also a huge rail enthusiast, what passenger trains- Amtrak or otherwise, travel over the curve please?
The only passenger train that now travels on on the horseshoe curve is the Amtrak pennsylvanian trains 42 and 43. These trains pass by in the morning and in the evening.
@@wesleybehanna7916 Thank you. May i please ask one further question. Where do the services run to/ from?
Amtrak train 42 goes from Pittsburgh to New York City, and train 43 goes from New York to Pittsburgh.
@@wesleybehanna7916 Thank you. Appreciate it.
This was awesome...thank you!
Nice video and I can see myself in it haha!! Was neat to watch them work all day setting the cars back on the track
Thanks
Why do there seem to be so many derailments at this one curve?
Cool views of horseshoe curve!
Thanks
What’s the building at 1.20?
I’m your 50th sub🥳
Haha thanks
Amtrak: *Laughing* You derailed!
NS: Fuck you!
Amtrak: *Blows his horn several times*
Thats is a cool video.😍
Thank you 🤗
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it
video actually starts at 4:30
Where was this at
Horseshoe Curve. Altoona, PA
@@wesleybehanna7916 Thanks
Now that’s awesome. I’ve been there twice but never rode it. Thanks for sharing I liked and subbed to your channel
Thanks
Wesleys Trains yeah man. I enjoyed the ride along to
What train is this?
Very cool video!
As soon as I saw those centerbeam flats behind the power pass, l thought why would they put those up there? That's not a good place to put them in a train consist, especially a train going uphill with that much tonnage and physical force pulling and pushing on it.
Great documentation.
Thanks
Terrific catches! How does one of the Amtrak conductors know you? Just subscribed to you!
Thanks, he knew that I was a railfan and he wanted to know my name
What are those languages being spoken in the background?
I'm pretty sure it was Spanish
I watched another video from the people who were in the observation area who caught the derailment as it happened.
Awesome ❤❤
Thanks
3:56 is what you're looking for. You're welcome.
wrong 4:30 lol
@@dubbeh Actually if you want to see the extent of the derailment this works.
That’s incredible
I saw your train that day on the live cam
it had to be awhile after the accident because the dispatcher would hold all trains until the track was inspected
the derailment was on the opposite side, you missed it
What caused the derailment?
There were no helper locomotives on middle or the end of the train
They put heavy cars around light cars, so kinda like a string, it will pull out
@@wesleybehanna7916
That and a uneven weight
Neat! I subbed
Thanks
There was no weight on those center beam flats
You've passed through virtual railfan's railcam
grat video saw the derail on the horseshow curve live sterm
walter langston *horseshoe
Awesome thanks for sharing good video
Thanks
it actually took a whole day it was cleared by 6:30pm
But the track still was being resurfaced and tracks 3 and 2 were opened later that evening...Running a Tamper and Regulator at night is no fun. These new High intensity LED light do make it easier.
3:21 nice view
Wow!
You would have a better view of the wreck if you were on a freight that might sound crazy considering one just derailed.
lol matt did that for me too
No way that’s funny 😂 did he give you “the golden ticket”
@@wesleybehanna7916 yep, he also did that coming into Altoona. He's a very nice guy. Consider yourself lucky tho, because my footage from the Curve got corrupted for some reason, I'm kinda pissed
I was there when I was younger ^v^ cuz I live in Pa
Took all that trouble to shoot the derailment from below, and you almost missed the whole closeup as you went by. You missed the first cars that derailed, and that was what I waited so long to see!
you forgot to say but thank you for trying to get the best shot you could of it
The photographer was instead shooting the people on the other side of the train. I don't think he was trying very hard to shoot "it"
@@garman1966 he's not a professional he did his best get over it. he was traveling not familliar with the area., i appreciated him and thank him for trying.
135 subscriber incoming. ME
Hi
Oo dirty Amtrak
Way to be on the wrong side of the train!
What did the French train conductor say when the train derailed?
Too loose le track!!!!!
Yu