@@GloriousGEOSomething I noticed about you playing against the missile rat that I need to incorporate is assault boosting up to them and trying to circle them. I'm running the big Vesper one with 150 energy correction for the damage but I think the Coral one for myself might be better for getting up there more and not losing the fight to just low EN.
I mean, it’s no different from any other from game. The greatest sword is the greatest sword, but just because you threw on havels and have 66 str doesn’t mean you’re going to beat a nerd with a rusty dagger. It’s all skill based, but you have to have something to define skill in a fun way.
I think it would be funnier if you used a melee focused build with lamm parts and watch the enemy panic when they see a boat build chase them endlessly
Copying meta is not my cup of tea. I don’t care if everyone are using them for rushing the S rank. I will stay with my beloved build who climb me to A rank, not without difficulty, but with style.
Loved to see the loser missile rat at the end. Already basically using a cheese build that no one likes to fight bc its tedious af and couldn't even stand one loss lmao. I have an anti meta build myself but it isn't always the best for the lighter rat builds . I use my own take on a bumblebee build if your familiar with it. Might have to try yours tho! Great content!
I’ve been running a light weight with no shoulder weapons and dual big lasers (idk their names) and it’s really helped me understand how to properly time my shots and use my fcs. Might have to give this big boi variant a go 😮
I've already fought and destroyed these builds with my Laser tank so I don't have to worry. other then that nice video bro pump out some more when you get time.
This was already meta, heavyweight bipeds have been since patch 1.0, fortaleza was a gimmick that was abused because of watchpoint. This isn’t anything new, props if you discovered it, but it saddens me that this game has devolved into a rock paper scissors match of making a new meta out of countering the old instead of designing personalized mechs and playstyles out of tools pilots enjoy using in a fight, rather than what farms you the most wins for the lowest barriers to entry. “Optimization” was a term for making your build fit your desired style of olay, making it work effectively, now it’s a buzzword for slapping on the least demanding parts that net the cheapest and greatest rewards, the line betweeb meta and OP are now overlapped, and the fact that we subscribe to it to convince were better than anyone else is the saddest part. I get it, it’s something that I participated in too, but this patch shows what we want, and it’s not creative expression of unique builds. It’s winning, and putting the other person down. I don’t know how it can change or if it will, and it won’t change my love for AC, but in order to express that love if experimentation, of personalization, of making your own work, this consensus opinion that has consumed the pvp scene must be accepted. Maybe it’s a staple of modern multiplayer gaming, idk, and I don’t think it’s productive to just be like “well this sucks” but I think accepting the common relationship we have with the games mechanics of the game is the start of pursuing creative expression and personal satisfaction through the games we play. Idk maybe it’s just me though. This turned into a fucking essay or rant or some shit, lmk if anyone reads thie random ass comment in some stray vid, lmk what you think, im willing to accept that maybe Im feeling more than thinking, and what seems right to me is just complete BS to the truth. Like I said, lmk, random ass person who read this whole thing. Seriously why are you reading this. Why am I writing this. Ok I’ll stop lmao.
It is indeed a common occurrence for modern games to quickly become "solved" meta wise. You'll have to find a pvp dedicated game for this kind of balance.
I was close to making something similar to this! Glad it showed up in my feed, dual weapon bay swapping would have eluded me for such a long time. I think 2x dizzy's / 2x earshot on a heavy quadratic would put up a good fight against this, you're low on energy all the time and wouldn't be able to QB away from the _immense_ blast radius
BRB, switching my medium laser rifles for redshifts on the laser swap build. That AOE is just too good to pass up. Probably still keep the heavy laser rifles over the plasma. Although plasma rifles got a big buff to projectile speed right? Maybe I will have to try those out again.
2:30 using AB over the tallest part of the hill to throw off the predictive aim and have room to do so going downwards what the FUCK. Like, that’s a real subtle thing but that feels like a habitual opening on that map, and a *very strong* one
Ok the lammrat went down good, but what if it was in a bigger map lite allmind arena or the desert? How use this build consinstently against lammrats and kits? Suggestions?
I was trying this build a while ago and it got fucked up by majestic. I was probably playing it wrong though. I was also using two redshift nebulas and 2 of the big laser rifles
Guys I have a question. You have probably noticed, but against certain ACs, when I melee combo them, they use pulse armor but when I do the assault armor for counter it, sometimes they arent stag again.. I saw it mostly on tanks or heavy bipeds. Is this a glitch ? Or does the heavy ones have a certain resistance to it ? I cant count how many loss i had due to that..
Assault armor is pretty unreliable. That's why most people don't run it. If they are even a slightly higher or lower elevation that you, the assault armor can whiff it. Tanks and heavy bipeds can also have enough stability to not get instant staggered by it.
@@GloriousGEO this is totally bullshit.. It is all the point of the assault armor, to counter the pulse armor and its not working for every pulse armor activation ?! What the hell they thinking at fromsoftware 😑😑😑. I hope they will fix it on a next patch someday
assault armor max impact is around 2k AP if i'm not mistaken (it's in expansion selection tab). so if your opponent's ACS limit is over 2k, especially if they use treads, they can still move freely albeit with very high stagger meter.
@@GloriousGEO I fought the majority of players you showed in this vid, and Scarlet Alice has been using the cringe heavy treads + laser cannon since D rank, saw the same thing when they were C rank, and they are still using the same shit at A rank. so it's pretty great to see it being obliterated by you
@@TelMegiddo that might be believable if they werent using the exact same weapons as every other heavy treads, all built around the new laser cannon that was added.
I love seeing tanks get eviscerated like this, high rank pvp in this game is so stale so its nice to see you bring some flavour with your counter to the cancer
Like....I try not to judge but man...people just cant help but optimize the fun out of games they play. I hope we get a few more balance patches to even things out.
Those are scrub-tank-builds. One of my Karasawa (KRSV) will instantly stun you, if not, then the second one will... and after i have charged hexa-shoulder-lasers ready to finish it instantly. EDIT: "ARMORED CORE VI - FIRES OF RUBICON - Over-9000-Tank"
I found that this build is by far the most efective vs tanks: th-cam.com/video/wu69EvuQpVc/w-d-xo.html It's basically a Bipedal tank itself. Heavyweight that hits hard (as demonstrated in the first match). Also good for rat extermination and squatting flies.
Honestly it's hilarious on how people keep playing tanks with the amount of kiters, stun guns and missile floaters.. I personally play BVO and yet I still have a good time against tanks even tho I'm not favoured on paper God even Taka changed from bornesmizza to boat, why tf people keep playing tanks is a mystery to me
@@GloriousGEO Yeah but it's still no real big deal tbh, you get problems with that if you play slicer, 2hit pulse blade (instead of charged), dagger combo, etc.. Most of the problems is for melees, what I mentioned above doesn't really care about staggering the enemy My biggest concern is stagger and latency problems
@@GloriousGEO I'm quite sure that's latency related, haven't seen much reports of it outside said melee bug, but I'll surely look into it now that you're telling me tbh Preferably in custom matches, ain't wanna ruin the fun to anyone :'3
Always satisfying to watch scrubs get destroyed. I fought this doofus a bit in teams and he's just as obnoxious there. Thanks for crushing him into a shameful DC.
@@GloriousGEO I just realized why this has not been working for me. I play keyboard and mouse, and since it's the mouse that needs to be stopped to maintain hard lock, it's impossible to shoot and keep it still at the same time. Time to get a controller lol.
I dont know but switching is kinda also meta, ive encountered many people switching laser rifles and redshift nebulas and because the net code is horrible they just win automatically. Though I can say its incredibly useful against most missile rats and tanks.
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See my build here th-cam.com/video/L1wYqtCEkOA/w-d-xo.html
Love how this build gives a fighting chance boxing tanks instead of getting shredded.
Its just the best!
@@GloriousGEOSomething I noticed about you playing against the missile rat that I need to incorporate is assault boosting up to them and trying to circle them. I'm running the big Vesper one with 150 energy correction for the damage but I think the Coral one for myself might be better for getting up there more and not losing the fight to just low EN.
@@mrct592 Coral is a must for fighting missile rats. Can't keep up to them otherwise.
LRBster is meta
Best counter to tanks are normally range and maneuverability,been beating em out with a lightweight build I've recently been working with
I love the concept of switching weapons to rapid fire, very nice
Always been my favorite about in ac6
Better dps than navia thats for sure. AC6 pvp is a bit sweaty for my taste, hoping they do a co-op mode update/dlc thing in the future.
Navia crashed the GEO market. Aaaaaiiiieeee. They will make an ac6 expansion im sure of it.
A 4 player coop vs big robot type? or just normal ac? 🤔
I'm hoping they add some kind of coop as well.
co-op would be amazing!
Daemon X Machina had some ok coop and I hope AC VI can give us something like that at least.
This guy basically shoved his lasers down their throats and said “Enjoy”.
Hahah yup
I love AC6
The PvP still makes me salty but somehow it’s still fun.
I wish it was more skill based, than build based
Yeah, same here.
It’s skill based if you accept the unbalance nature of the game and play what you want to play, there are people claiming to S rank with light weight
vbo build is the only lightweight competitor and that build relies on the cheese of vientos heavy
There should be weight classes, that way the boring builds can tire themselves out.
I mean, it’s no different from any other from game.
The greatest sword is the greatest sword, but just because you threw on havels and have 66 str doesn’t mean you’re going to beat a nerd with a rusty dagger.
It’s all skill based, but you have to have something to define skill in a fun way.
There seems to be a high correlation between Lamm rats and cord pulling.
I can't help but laugh every time it happens lol
Lmaoooooo
I think it would be funnier if you used a melee focused build with lamm parts and watch the enemy panic when they see a boat build chase them endlessly
I tried making the missile jammer try to work in ranked to counter some meta strats it ended into quit to uninstall true combo
Lol
By destroying the meta, you have become the meta. You became the very thing you swore to destroy!
Tee-hee! ❤
I expect everyone to start copying me now lol
@@GloriousGEO I met a plenty of copies already. More numerous than rats and less amount than BVO copies. Currently in promotion to A.
@@Vaxsysl Really? Wow. This caught on quicker than I thought.
@GloriousGEO This build was already a known archetype before this video, but it was quite rarely used in comparison to the meta builds
Copying meta is not my cup of tea. I don’t care if everyone are using them for rushing the S rank.
I will stay with my beloved build who climb me to A rank, not without difficulty, but with style.
That last guy showed that without his meta he’s nothing.
Hes a scrub
If you’re nothing without the meta then you shouldn’t have it 😤😤
*_"What a pathetic excuse for a Raven!"_*
Edit: I mean not like i'm any better so...
That first kill was straight up bullying holy shit lmao
Haha yeh
Loved to see the loser missile rat at the end. Already basically using a cheese build that no one likes to fight bc its tedious af and couldn't even stand one loss lmao. I have an anti meta build myself but it isn't always the best for the lighter rat builds . I use my own take on a bumblebee build if your familiar with it. Might have to try yours tho! Great content!
Thanks and good luck!
I’ve been running a light weight with no shoulder weapons and dual big lasers (idk their names) and it’s really helped me understand how to properly time my shots and use my fcs. Might have to give this big boi variant a go 😮
You can actually run a light weight using 4 energy weapons for this.
this is why I prefer to be a heavy biped rather than a tank for my missile/bomber build. aerial mobility is so important.
For sure!
I've already fought and destroyed these builds with my Laser tank so I don't have to worry.
other then that nice video bro pump out some more when you get time.
I be cookin 👨🍳
Doing God's work. The instant stagger recovery bug on tank legs makes them even more agonizing to fight that they would be normally.
They really need to fix it already. Ugh.
You're doing god's work GEO. Pls keep mulching tanks.
I'll upload a video of our last fight so you can see from my perspective. GGs again!
This was already meta, heavyweight bipeds have been since patch 1.0, fortaleza was a gimmick that was abused because of watchpoint. This isn’t anything new, props if you discovered it, but it saddens me that this game has devolved into a rock paper scissors match of making a new meta out of countering the old instead of designing personalized mechs and playstyles out of tools pilots enjoy using in a fight, rather than what farms you the most wins for the lowest barriers to entry. “Optimization” was a term for making your build fit your desired style of olay, making it work effectively, now it’s a buzzword for slapping on the least demanding parts that net the cheapest and greatest rewards, the line betweeb meta and OP are now overlapped, and the fact that we subscribe to it to convince were better than anyone else is the saddest part. I get it, it’s something that I participated in too, but this patch shows what we want, and it’s not creative expression of unique builds. It’s winning, and putting the other person down. I don’t know how it can change or if it will, and it won’t change my love for AC, but in order to express that love if experimentation, of personalization, of making your own work, this consensus opinion that has consumed the pvp scene must be accepted. Maybe it’s a staple of modern multiplayer gaming, idk, and I don’t think it’s productive to just be like “well this sucks” but I think accepting the common relationship we have with the games mechanics of the game is the start of pursuing creative expression and personal satisfaction through the games we play. Idk maybe it’s just me though. This turned into a fucking essay or rant or some shit, lmk if anyone reads thie random ass comment in some stray vid, lmk what you think, im willing to accept that maybe Im feeling more than thinking, and what seems right to me is just complete BS to the truth. Like I said, lmk, random ass person who read this whole thing. Seriously why are you reading this. Why am I writing this. Ok I’ll stop lmao.
It is indeed a common occurrence for modern games to quickly become "solved" meta wise. You'll have to find a pvp dedicated game for this kind of balance.
my man double pumping, you love to see it, freaking crazy how aggressive it is. nice vid G
Thanks, man
I was close to making something similar to this! Glad it showed up in my feed, dual weapon bay swapping would have eluded me for such a long time.
I think 2x dizzy's / 2x earshot on a heavy quadratic would put up a good fight against this, you're low on energy all the time and wouldn't be able to QB away from the _immense_ blast radius
Oh yes. Im always energy starved lol
Dam that’s crazy that by using a better meta, you can destroy a previous meta.
The meta of all metas
That weapon swapping reminds me of Doom Eternal good shit man
totally!
BRB, switching my medium laser rifles for redshifts on the laser swap build. That AOE is just too good to pass up. Probably still keep the heavy laser rifles over the plasma. Although plasma rifles got a big buff to projectile speed right? Maybe I will have to try those out again.
I prefer plasma for 3v3s for aoe stagger damage. Redshifts have better direct hit damage to shred tanks.
Using this build in a rank after seeing the video. Its surprising how many builds you have favorable matchups with
Exactly. This build is quite universally good.
The quickdraw build lmao
Nice fighting!
My favorite build!
Seeing tanks and meta players being destroyed now that puts a smile on my face! Keep destroying the meta!
Will do!
oh this is some delicious high fps video right here
Holy melt. Those lasers hurt 😂
Melted that tank so quick heh.
I was running a lighter version of this myself, but your build definitely looks better overall.
Ranked is nuthin but tanks. So heavy is better.
What an astonishing amount of firepower, I would certainly want to stay as far away from this as possible
People never see it coming.
This is literally Gods work. Good job.
Aye. I'll keep it up.
I was literally saying to myself is this me ive been playing this build for 3 days now blasting everything 😂😂
Its so damn good!
2:30 using AB over the tallest part of the hill to throw off the predictive aim and have room to do so going downwards what the FUCK.
Like, that’s a real subtle thing but that feels like a habitual opening on that map, and a *very strong* one
I basically open every single fight on the map like that lol.
Ran into a build like this last night on B rank. Its so cool
Ye, lazors everywhere
😡 - Lamm rats when you catch up to them
Hahah yup
some people really¨wake up and decide "I'm going to make the most unfun build I can think of" and then play missile boats in ACVI
thats ac6, bby
"Destroying meta builds. With a meta build"
The meta build to destroy all meta builds.
Amazing, this soothes the soul
Ok the lammrat went down good, but what if it was in a bigger map lite allmind arena or the desert? How use this build consinstently against lammrats and kits? Suggestions?
I'll include multiple rats in my build video on different maps next.
What's your complete build you used in the first match? I wanna test it out and use it for a 3v3 match to see if its a good support build in a team🤔
I'll post the video for it tomorrow
@@GloriousGEOwould you say these builds are also good on team matches or 1v1 only?
@@laurentpoulet2746 This is actually a dedicated 3v3 build. That's why I got S in 3v3s first before 1v1s.
I was trying this build a while ago and it got fucked up by majestic. I was probably playing it wrong though. I was also using two redshift nebulas and 2 of the big laser rifles
It takes some time to get use
Honest question, what can you do against swap laser builds? they are incredibly oppressive at low levels
You have to be a good kite player to win against it or be a good viento player. Either can win.
Wait… you just have two pairs of the rifles and constantly swap between each?! I would have never thought this one out!
Ye, it's just that easy.
Guys I have a question.
You have probably noticed, but against certain ACs, when I melee combo them, they use pulse armor but when I do the assault armor for counter it, sometimes they arent stag again..
I saw it mostly on tanks or heavy bipeds.
Is this a glitch ? Or does the heavy ones have a certain resistance to it ?
I cant count how many loss i had due to that..
Assault armor is pretty unreliable. That's why most people don't run it. If they are even a slightly higher or lower elevation that you, the assault armor can whiff it. Tanks and heavy bipeds can also have enough stability to not get instant staggered by it.
@@GloriousGEO this is totally bullshit..
It is all the point of the assault armor, to counter the pulse armor and its not working for every pulse armor activation ?!
What the hell they thinking at fromsoftware 😑😑😑.
I hope they will fix it on a next patch someday
@@SuperDarkmasterX Yeah, hopefully
assault armor max impact is around 2k AP if i'm not mistaken (it's in expansion selection tab). so if your opponent's ACS limit is over 2k, especially if they use treads, they can still move freely albeit with very high stagger meter.
@@vulnerablerummy thats so shit 🙄
Now make a tank build that destroy those cowards who keep flying away pooping missiles and winning with timeout.
Yeah, I'm cooking an anti-kite build as well.
I’ve been using plasma/redshift with great effect for a long time. Do you prefer LRB/redshift more?
Lrb is better for killing rats and kite players. Plasma/redshift is better for killing tanks. I prefer lrb so its harder to get countered.
I feel you there. Wonder if LRB/plasma would be better since they have better velocity than redshift 🤔
@@GravityKid44 Thats also good. I prefer plasma/lrbs for 3v3s.
Oh man made it sound like you created an actual build dude
Naw, I'll make an actual build video tomorrow.
man is there even a build that can beat this shit. (great work on it btw)
Good kites and good viento players can possibly win.
that means theres a chance, thanks.@@GloriousGEO
Shame to see the light build meta just being "missile boat wheelchair but in the sky"
I don't know what they were thinking making this abomination of a leg part.
God i love watching Scarlet Alice get absolutely farmed. If ya know, ya know
Enlighten me
@@GloriousGEO I fought the majority of players you showed in this vid, and Scarlet Alice has been using the cringe heavy treads + laser cannon since D rank, saw the same thing when they were C rank, and they are still using the same shit at A rank. so it's pretty great to see it being obliterated by you
@@NeroAvian Ah, very cringe indeed.
@@NeroAvianWhat if the meta is a coincidence and they just really like playing tanks?
@@TelMegiddo that might be believable if they werent using the exact same weapons as every other heavy treads, all built around the new laser cannon that was added.
Big lazer/plasma weapons is META
Lol
I love seeing tanks get eviscerated like this, high rank pvp in this game is so stale so its nice to see you bring some flavour with your counter to the cancer
The tank cancer is real, and I'm the cure.
Like....I try not to judge but man...people just cant help but optimize the fun out of games they play. I hope we get a few more balance patches to even things out.
Happens to every fromsoft game, sadly.
I started using this with the wheelchair and it gets pretty nasty 😬
oo thats a scary combo
Those are scrub-tank-builds. One of my Karasawa (KRSV) will instantly stun you, if not, then the second one will... and after i have charged hexa-shoulder-lasers ready to finish it instantly. EDIT: "ARMORED CORE VI - FIRES OF RUBICON - Over-9000-Tank"
I actually haven't seen anyone use the sawa after B rank. Wonder why.
Yes! I can finally fight tanks toe to toe👍👍👍
Show 'em who's boss!
I found that this build is by far the most efective vs tanks: th-cam.com/video/wu69EvuQpVc/w-d-xo.html
It's basically a Bipedal tank itself. Heavyweight that hits hard (as demonstrated in the first match). Also good for rat extermination and squatting flies.
Wings still hit as hard as ever
Honestly it's hilarious on how people keep playing tanks with the amount of kiters, stun guns and missile floaters.. I personally play BVO and yet I still have a good time against tanks even tho I'm not favoured on paper
God even Taka changed from bornesmizza to boat, why tf people keep playing tanks is a mystery to me
Tanks are currently glitched and have no extended stagger.
@@GloriousGEO Yeah but it's still no real big deal tbh, you get problems with that if you play slicer, 2hit pulse blade (instead of charged), dagger combo, etc..
Most of the problems is for melees, what I mentioned above doesn't really care about staggering the enemy
My biggest concern is stagger and latency problems
@@SplitFace4393 its an instant recover, so most builds can't out dps the tank in time basically.
@@GloriousGEO I'm quite sure that's latency related, haven't seen much reports of it outside said melee bug, but I'll surely look into it now that you're telling me tbh
Preferably in custom matches, ain't wanna ruin the fun to anyone :'3
@@SplitFace4393 Sure, let me know what you find.
Typical missile rat behavior at the end xD figures
They are terribel
Pretty sure i beat this guy in my recent upload but its a v cool build very nice piloting
Thanks!
I have run into your final opponent Reeducation multiple times in team ranked and they rage quit everytime I faced them. Must have been 5-6 times.
He is the worst ac6 player.
@GloriousGEO he was in b-rank when I was being matched with him, but since making it to A rank I haven't seen him yet.
The loser has DC'd his way into S rank.
@@GloriousGEO shameless
Always satisfying to watch scrubs get destroyed. I fought this doofus a bit in teams and he's just as obnoxious there. Thanks for crushing him into a shameful DC.
Would it be possible for you to show all the parts?
I will show my parts and go into more detail about the build in my next build video!
@@GloriousGEO Thanks!
Why is it you can stay autolocked on the target the whole time?
I have hardlock on.
@@GloriousGEO I just realized why this has not been working for me. I play keyboard and mouse, and since it's the mouse that needs to be stopped to maintain hard lock, it's impossible to shoot and keep it still at the same time. Time to get a controller lol.
@@Teranova ahh okay. Yeah i play controller
Ironic that these "high level" pvp involve little to no skill
Yeah, it's entirely build based.
B-but you are a tank with legs 😭 (i am just envious)
Lmao
Rip this game
It's so over...
Destroys the meta.. by being the meta haha
And so a new Meta is born...
Which rifles are these?
Lrbs and plasma
@@GloriousGEO ? New to lingo
@@DrChacatumbi heavy laser rifle
destroy me too
😳
@@GloriousGEO 😏
I thought against a build almost exactly like this. You're not on Xbox are you
Nah, I'm on PC.
@@GloriousGEO okay I thought that same build. I'm actually trying to get to s rink with a white glint cosplay build over on twitch lol
@@lucky13sj gl bro!
@@GloriousGEO thanks
if you really wanna be non-meta, you gotta use light weight close range builds
I'll have to wait until tanks are fixed before trying that.
It’s suicide they gotta fix tanks first.
This build is far from respectable.
You wont find any respect at high ranked pvp
@@GloriousGEO just a bunch of cookie cutters right?
@@zod959 yup
I dont know but switching is kinda also meta, ive encountered many people switching laser rifles and redshift nebulas and because the net code is horrible they just win automatically. Though I can say its incredibly useful against most missile rats and tanks.
Indeed