I had to shed some tears now that my idol growing up as a kid is gone. There’s always a story when it comes to wrestlers outside the ring that have been in their sad dark moments like Jake The Snake Roberts. If any documentary that deserves a re-watch is Outside The Razor’s Edge: The Scott Hall Story. Very emotional. Thank you, Scott for all the great memories. One of the best storytellers in all of wrestling.
Using them to go against eachother in a storyline was just lame. They both came in to WCW together and were best friends, it felt too personal. Like I was fighting with my best friend.
Seeing Hall go from being one of the best Intercontinental champions and part of one of WCW's most dominant tag teams to this is truly heart-breaking. And in a way it reflects how desperate WCW were to get their ratings back up at this time as the WWF were on the fast road to recovery, pulling further and further ahead of them.
@@agiuggio1 That's true, but seeing WCW stoop to its competition's level in order to boost the ratings (The Hawk drunk angle going on at about the same time) was a sign of the company's impending downward spiral.
Desparate...lol. As opposed to the classy WWE, with such angles as Jake the Snake's addiction, Mark Henry sleeping with an 80 year old woman who gives birth to a hand, Eugene the mentally disabled wrestler, Kane being a pedophile, etc etc etc
During a shoot interview Nash said hall was only put into nwo Hollywood because hogan bitched that Kevin had all of the “cool” people in the Wolfpack lol
@@emc8481 Even Eric Bischoff said in a podcast the NWO lasted a year or 18 months longer than it should have. I heard that story about Hogan from Nash before myself. Maybe / Maybe not true
I don't think Hogan ever wanted to be a true Heel, because the existence of the Wolfpac was making Hogan a true dark heel but he obviously didn't like not being popular in that era. He wanted to be the cool heel. Hogan woulda made more money with good storylines and an actual feud with Nash but his ego got involved and ruined everything.
Razor’s Edge, Outsiders Edge or it’s or original name when he was in WCW as the Diamond Studd. Whatever you call it, it’s one of my favourite finishers ever too! Only move that looked more devastating was Hogan’s leg drop (calm down people it was a joke and I’m being sarcastic as that has to be one of the worst ever especially for such a big star in wrestling)
I've met Scott Hall a few times at 8 seconds in Orlando Florida before it shut down. I used to also see him riding his bike in Oviedo where he lived. He's actually a really nice guy when he wasn't trashed, which was rare back then. So glad he got his life back together.
@Iceman 23 Still he lived more years than expected thanks to DDP probably. And is not like he passed due to abuse of alcohol of drugs. He broke his hip and he got really unlucky and had 2 heart strokes during surgery, really really unfair.
I loved the WWF when Scott Hall Was Razor, and it created the best commentary line ever, I cant remember who it was, but one of the said "how can a man called razor, always need a shave"
@@andrewvincent7299 wow... can we just take a moment to appreciate the fact that the WWE employed the whole damn Mount Rushmore of commentators at the same time at one point? Gordon, The Brain, Lawler, Gorilla, and JR.
I had a run-in with Hall back in 97’. My stepdad took me to a WCW house show and after it was over, we ran into Hall and Nash at a 7-11. Cool dudes. Glad Hall is in a better place these days!
I remember watching as this unfolded and having a deep sense of sorrow for what he was going through. I'm glad he was able to turn his life around. Really enjoyed watching him work before the wheels came off.
@Wales Eakes I disagree. He started in the 80’s in the AWA. If anything his mishap at the strip club. Then subsequently drug and alcohol addiction, did him in.
He never had the drive to be the top guy. His buddies HBK, HHH and even Nash to some extent worked a lot harder and played politics much more in the back. Hall was always just along for the ride.
@@fattiger6957 Everyone is entitled to an opinion. But I disagree. Those signature punches. A flawless fall away slam. The dude could sale, even in his deteriorating days. Did he reach his potential? Of course not. I would ask anyone who accidentally or while defending yourself. Was the cause of someones death. How do you cope?
@@timewithoutconsequence Hall wasn't absolute trash in the ring like Warrior and Goldberg, but he was never more than average in-ring. His punches looked decent and the few moves he did looked good, but that's it. He wasn't amazing like HBK or a ring general like HHH. Where Hall shone was his charisma and character work. Sure, he could have great matches with great workers like Shawn or Bret. But Hall couldn't work with just anyone and produce a great match. Nash was even less talented in the ring, but he got to the top because he was more ambitious. He also knew how to play the backstage politics game better than anyone besides Hogan.
To this day I’ll never get what WWF nor WCW were trying to prove by bringing up a drunk storyline with Road Warrior Hawk and Scott Hall respectively. It just goes to show you that there’s edgy and just going to far even for the edgy product. We don’t know what went on in these guys real lives and only know what we saw on television as entertainment.
@@RealAlphaDrum Jeff Hardy is the only one I've seen come through unscathed. The wrestling business does like to use it though. Hell AEW is used it with Hangman Page to enhance his downfall but kept it on the way back up...
@@MVProfits Yeah me too. At the beginning I thought it was wild and exciting, but after seeing a non-finish 50 times, you actually hope for a proper finish lol.
The original plan for the spilt according to Kevin was that Nash and Hall would start the Wolfpac and Hogan and Savage would led NWO Hollywood. It’s was gonna be battle of the generations. Bischoff couldn’t control them together, they were trouble. so he put Hall with Hogan and Savage with Nash. Lol
Mang, as Razor Ramon the school would be called "The Yayo Dojo", chico. Thinking of that: Is that a coincedence that Tony Montana always refered to coke as yayo and Hall used "Hey yo"?
It’s still hard to believe that Scott Hall is no longer with us. I started watching in 2005, so pretty much his career had come to an end compared to the previous 2 decades. But of course with TH-cam starting up and whatever classic content wwe would put out like dvds and their 24/7 on demand service it was a treat going back and watching his WCW stuff
He was okay in the ring, nothing more. His best match (Mania X ladder match) was good because HBK carried him. Hall had a lot of charisma, a good look and was great with his character. But you can't say his in-ring work was good.
@@fattiger6957 he had a solid program with the kid and a couple really good matches with Bret Hart. I think he was a solid wrestler in the WWF especially for his size. I didn't really watch WCW, unfortunately, so can't comment on his in ring work there.
Hey Yo! Scott was world championship material. The guy could just about do it all. The drugs ruined his life to near death, he could've possibly been even greater. Glad he's alive and doing well and in the WWE Hall of Fame. Razor Ramon will always be my favorite.
@@michaelsinger4638 Indeed. There are always other things at play and it's never as simple as the cliched "best for business" excuse. Wasn't it about four years of Shawn drawing a 750k salary without wrestling because of his supposed injury? Who else would Vince have done that for? Vince just seemed to be very fond of Shawn for some reason.
The one distinct event of this angle I remember was Nash going into different bars looking for Hall and when he eventually found him he was near passed out laying in a bathroom stall drooling...
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Scott Hall was one of my favorite wrestlers during this era. It is ashame that neither organization saw him as world title holder, but he was definetly a world class main event wrestler.
Just appreciating him while we have him. I still remember some of his promos from when I was a child he was so raw, laid back and philosophical. I knew him before I knew Scarface. And I always loved when he flicked his toothpick at the camera.
Last Call Scott Hall was just very sad to watch and it honestly really hard to watch. I know there was a reliving wrestling video on this and its definitely worth a watch if you can find it
Also: not only was it horrible taste, to say the least, to turn Hall's problems into a storyline - it also flies in the face of people like Eric saying since that they had Hall's best interests at heart when sending him to rehab.
My Dad was a terrible alcoholic, I was fourteen watching this had switched back to WWE at the beginning of this storyline as it was just to hard to watch. nasty stuff.
You are totally correct with WWF not being above using the same tactics as a storyline. While the Scott Hall addiction story was playing out, Hawk of the LOD was doing his addiction story in WWF.
I remember turning off the tv in disgust a couple of times when Scott was pretending to be wasted and he was getting picked on,. They ought to be ashamed of the way they treated him.
It was something Eric Bischoff said years later he regretted ever giving the green light to doing at Creative's suggestion to make Scott's real life issue with booze a storyline for WCW
@@michaelvaughn8864 Yeah, you know what they say about hindsight. I hope it doesn't keep Scott up at night anymore, he's one of my favorites and he was doing well the last I heard.
@@0therun1t21 I heard the same thing lastly about Scott Hall, too. I understand he's holding up well, sir.👍 It's good to hear that. Props to DDP for what he's doing with him and Jake 'The Snake' Roberts with his positivity
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I remember when I was a kid I was playing 2k14 and the NWO theme started playing my dad yells out 'are you watching porn?!' and ever since then when I hear it that's all I can remember
@@moorejonothan Hogan and Nash played politics much more. Hall just never had to drive to be the top guy. And he probably didn't want the responsibility either.
As an inherent addict myself, he hardly deserved any World Title, maybe early on in WWF, or a short reign in WCW. It just wasn't meant to be. Scott Hall is still Top 5 GOAT To Never Win A Big 3 Promotion's World Title.
part of bringing it out into the open was due to them being left with little other options, they had tried getting him to rehab... Multiple times, and it was just not working. so a different, (as nash said.. "Tough Love") approach was tried, an attempt to really get through to Hall, that he needed to change his life.
Wwe did this to Jake the Snake well before this. Hell the famous Austin 3:16 promo makes reference to Jakes drink problem "All he's gotta do is go buy him a cheap bottle of Thunderbird and try to get back some of that courage he had in his prime"
I have nothing but sympathy for Scott Hall, I can't imagine what it must be like being forced to shoot another person who was threatening to take his life away. No wonder he turned to drink.
@@stevebarnes4805 In my opinion, that led to the downfall of the NWO and ultimately WCW. Too many NWO members taking up too much camera time, rising talent always being squashed, seasoned veterans being buried by those with "creative control". NWO should have been kept as the "anti establishment force" like Stone Cold Steve Austin. When Sting joined WWE and was buried by Paul, McMahon's destruction of WCW was complete. If anything, Sting should have been the one to end the Undertaker's streak. That would be a way of giving respect to WCW for its part in making WWE what it was. At the end of the HHH vs Sting match at 'Mania, Bret Hart should've come out and nailed HBK.
Scott hall was one of my favorite wrestlers his style and moves looked cool and hard hitting and his ring gear was cool to it was sad to see his personal demons overtake him
I still remember watching this angle back in the late 90's. I just remember thinking it was so sad; even though Hall was a heel he was easily one of the most loved and popular wrestlers period. I just remember thinking he was just wasted as a talent. Now I look back I realise that Nash was as well.
Nash and Hall had booking power in WCW. If they were wasted, it's their own faults. If anything, Nash got far too much of a push. He was boring as hell to watch.
Thanks for the vid. You brought me back to my childhood days watching WWF then transitioning to WCW because of Hall and Nash. What an amazing time for wrestling fans. 🙏🏽🔥
The most WCW thing ever to have Nash and Hall on the mid card instead of the main event and once again no clear cut winner. WCW would do that so often with interference you never had any clean wins. It is no wonder WWF won the war. Nash vs Hall could have been an excellent main eventer but nope.
Scott Hall lived a street over from me in Georgia. When I delivered a pizza to him. I was star struck. Said I was a huge fan growing up, but he kinda shrugged me off.
As great as the 90's were for wrestling was, there were some horrendous storytelling and this is right up there To air one's demons to grab ratings is extremely low and a definite turn off but we live in an era of talk show trashing the most vulnerable so... Great talent that deserved at least one title reign
Scott was a wrestler during one of the biggest political play eras in WWE and WCW, theres no way hed ever get a world title run, that being said, Scott Hall is such a great performer that he will always be apart of that top 10 list in some peoples eyes.
Scott Hall was the first wrestler I really got into when I was a young boy. I remember playing as Razor all the time in the WWF Wrestlemania game for SNES. Razor Ramon(Hall) will always have a special place in my childhood memories.
Watching all this back, I can’t help but feel this could’ve been a good storyline. People’s main problem is that it involved Halls real life addictions, and it wasn’t executed that well. My question to everyone here who didn’t like the angle is, is there a good way to do this storyline? Can we have addictions and personal issues in wrestling where it’s not seen as low or distasteful?
Answer: No, because it's disgraceful & distasteful being an addict to begin with. The companies publicly shaming/embarrassing those with the addictions doesn't help & honestly, does more harm than good by feeding/enabling the problems through the storyline.
@@TherealRNOwwfpooh TV shows cover addictions all the time. What if a wrestler whom didn’t have a real life addiction played the part? Can this storyline can be done well?
This is probably the most depressing part of his WCW run, and it should've NEVER, absolute NEVER have been a storyline. Look I'm a fan of the Jeff vs Punk feud, but that never contained footage of Jeff being (in storyline) wasted, it was more of a storyline about overcoming your demons. I totally agree with Bischoff's view on making storylines feel realistic, but this storyline was going way over the edge.
Except Jeff Hardy lost that angle to CM Punk, because his real world demons as a druggie forced WWE to fire him again. Then there's the whole mess leading to Victory Road 2011.
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I remember watching him back in high school days, he always got drunk before going into the ring then when I heard he went through so much outside the ring, then finding out that whoever in WCW tried to make it as an angle and showcase it for everyone to see you suck and I hope you were proud, I felt for Scott Hall.
What's more accurate is the WCW seeing someone going through a hard time and struggling with an addiction and instead of getting him help they just exploited and embarrassed him on t.v. Reason 1,187,575 why WCW failed.
You know, WCW using Scott Hall's demons in an on air storyline is really no different than WWF using Road Warrior Hawk's demons in a storyline. While many considered the "post-death" of Paul Bearer - CM Punk/Undertaker angle as distasteful, I can say that William Moody(Paul Bearer) would have loved that send off. I was a pen-pal of his, and his love of the business included that being part of one last angle with The Undertaker would have made him very happy. But using someone's "real life" demons(at least, while they were still going on) actually IS distasteful. Both companies are guilty of this.
@Jav Mar I had found his web page, which had an email address on it. I didn’t think he would reply, but he did. When I met him in person at a local show, he remembered me from the subject’s we had discussed through email. We kept in touch through email until his death.
At 20:38, I never understood why Goldberg didn’t lose to Hulk Hogan instead of Kevin Nash if Nash was just gonna drop the WCW title to Hogan shortly after winning it.
RIP Scott Hall
Vince is such an asshole. Why couldnt he keep the vaxx away from the boys?
@@wadewilson1312 Wait what?
He will forever be missed.
A huge part of my childhood.
He is what i new COOL was.
Scott hall is going to hell
@@cfcCovah We're already in hell bro.
I had to shed some tears now that my idol growing up as a kid is gone. There’s always a story when it comes to wrestlers outside the ring that have been in their sad dark moments like Jake The Snake Roberts. If any documentary that deserves a re-watch is Outside The Razor’s Edge: The Scott Hall Story. Very emotional. Thank you, Scott for all the great memories. One of the best storytellers in all of wrestling.
Also the resurrection of Jake the Snake Roberts is definitely worth rewatching or watching if you haven’t seen it
You cried. Lmao.
@@davidcook680 so what? Got a problem with that?
@@davidcook680 karma is real my friend, watch it
@@davidcook680 Grow up, dude.
11-year-old me was very uncomfortable watching this storyline play out. To be that innocent again.
34 year old me still feels uncomfortable rewatching it.
34 YEAR OLD ME HATES POLITICS...BUT BOY AS A KID WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE🤣🤣
Same
ye as a 32 yo i relate to it. hall is a taller, more athletic, richer version of me
Using them to go against eachother in a storyline was just lame. They both came in to WCW together and were best friends, it felt too personal. Like I was fighting with my best friend.
Sting was only confused because nobody turned on him
Seeing Hall go from being one of the best Intercontinental champions and part of one of WCW's most dominant tag teams to this is truly heart-breaking. And in a way it reflects how desperate WCW were to get their ratings back up at this time as the WWF were on the fast road to recovery, pulling further and further ahead of them.
then again, WWF pulled this downfall/ substance abuse angle stuff multiple time. Few examples come to mind: jake roberts and hawk
@@agiuggio1 That's true, but seeing WCW stoop to its competition's level in order to boost the ratings (The Hawk drunk angle going on at about the same time) was a sign of the company's impending downward spiral.
Desparate...lol. As opposed to the classy WWE, with such angles as Jake the Snake's addiction, Mark Henry sleeping with an 80 year old woman who gives birth to a hand, Eugene the mentally disabled wrestler, Kane being a pedophile, etc etc etc
@@crankymessiah1477 two companies can be desperate for attention!
@@crankymessiah1477 - Wait. What did they do with Kane?!?!
During a shoot interview Nash said hall was only put into nwo Hollywood because hogan bitched that Kevin had all of the “cool” people in the Wolfpack lol
not a surprise
Wouldn't doubt it once Hogan joined the nwo wolfpac and both Nwo murged the the stable went down hill. Hogan seemed to ruin everything
@@emc8481 eh I think mostly people were done with the nwo and hogan joining basically showed that the nwo wasn't going anywhere
@@emc8481 Even Eric Bischoff said in a podcast the NWO lasted a year or 18 months longer than it should have. I heard that story about Hogan from Nash before myself. Maybe / Maybe not true
I don't think Hogan ever wanted to be a true Heel, because the existence of the Wolfpac was making Hogan a true dark heel but he obviously didn't like not being popular in that era. He wanted to be the cool heel. Hogan woulda made more money with good storylines and an actual feud with Nash but his ego got involved and ruined everything.
Scott Hall's finisher will always be one of my favorite of all times.
I wanted to see him hit it on Kevin Nash
It’s awesome because he protected it like his daughters virginity. He point blank refused to use it if he was gonna lose.
Dead ass was just thinking about this last night
Razors Edge!
Razor’s Edge, Outsiders Edge or it’s or original name when he was in WCW as the Diamond Studd. Whatever you call it, it’s one of my favourite finishers ever too! Only move that looked more devastating was Hogan’s leg drop (calm down people it was a joke and I’m being sarcastic as that has to be one of the worst ever especially for such a big star in wrestling)
I've met Scott Hall a few times at 8 seconds in Orlando Florida before it shut down. I used to also see him riding his bike in Oviedo where he lived. He's actually a really nice guy when he wasn't trashed, which was rare back then. So glad he got his life back together.
i'm set meet him at a meet greet in may. I heard that he's cool nice guy.
@@jeffreybrozek6217 " something happens to this gold, something gonna happen to you" 😂
@@jeffreybrozek6217 Oh man this is hard to read
@Iceman 23 honestly nothing ages well now... Iceman didn't age well either... 70% of everyone thought you were a meth dealer.
@Iceman 23 Still he lived more years than expected thanks to DDP probably. And is not like he passed due to abuse of alcohol of drugs. He broke his hip and he got really unlucky and had 2 heart strokes during surgery, really really unfair.
I loved the WWF when Scott Hall Was Razor, and it created the best commentary line ever, I cant remember who it was, but one of the said "how can a man called razor, always need a shave"
I'd imagine it was Jerry Lawler. But that could be wrong. He was a face too when Heenan was still there.
That sounds like something Bobby The Brain Heenan would say. But I’m just guessing.
@@ajk No, it was Gorilla Monsoon who would say it. Gorillia would say it when Razor was still a heel
DDP and Scott's tough to nails heart saved Scott's life.
@@andrewvincent7299 wow... can we just take a moment to appreciate the fact that the WWE employed the whole damn Mount Rushmore of commentators at the same time at one point? Gordon, The Brain, Lawler, Gorilla, and JR.
I had a run-in with Hall back in 97’. My stepdad took me to a WCW house show and after it was over, we ran into Hall and Nash at a 7-11. Cool dudes. Glad Hall is in a better place these days!
Nope you're wrong on this.
@@nathantturnert1631 And you know this how?
@@geoffreybrooks1220 How would I not know. You gotta be a man of integrity dude. Work on it.
@@nathantturnert1631 Whatever you say, buddy.
@@nathantturnert1631 Whatever you say, buddy.
Man when Wrestling Bios man said "Kevin Nash suffered an injury" I could hardly believe it...
I remember watching as this unfolded and having a deep sense of sorrow for what he was going through. I'm glad he was able to turn his life around. Really enjoyed watching him work before the wheels came off.
Hall understood the business. His laid back attitude and willingness to do the job. Surely impeded his rise to the top.
@Wales Eakes I disagree. He started in the 80’s in the AWA. If anything his mishap at the strip club. Then subsequently drug and alcohol addiction, did him in.
He never had the drive to be the top guy. His buddies HBK, HHH and even Nash to some extent worked a lot harder and played politics much more in the back. Hall was always just along for the ride.
@@fattiger6957 Everyone is entitled to an opinion. But I disagree. Those signature punches. A flawless fall away slam. The dude could sale, even in his deteriorating days. Did he reach his potential? Of course not. I would ask anyone who accidentally or while defending yourself. Was the cause of someones death. How do you cope?
@@timewithoutconsequence Hall wasn't absolute trash in the ring like Warrior and Goldberg, but he was never more than average in-ring. His punches looked decent and the few moves he did looked good, but that's it. He wasn't amazing like HBK or a ring general like HHH.
Where Hall shone was his charisma and character work. Sure, he could have great matches with great workers like Shawn or Bret. But Hall couldn't work with just anyone and produce a great match.
Nash was even less talented in the ring, but he got to the top because he was more ambitious. He also knew how to play the backstage politics game better than anyone besides Hogan.
@@fattiger6957 that's a horrible hot take. 😂😂
To this day I’ll never get what WWF nor WCW were trying to prove by bringing up a drunk storyline with Road Warrior Hawk and Scott Hall respectively. It just goes to show you that there’s edgy and just going to far even for the edgy product. We don’t know what went on in these guys real lives and only know what we saw on television as entertainment.
@@gsesquire3441 That goes to show management's mindset on those saddening types of issues, sir
@@RealAlphaDrum So correct, sir👍
True but they didn’t have to agree to do it neither
@@RealAlphaDrum Jeff Hardy is the only one I've seen come through unscathed. The wrestling business does like to use it though.
Hell AEW is used it with Hangman Page to enhance his downfall but kept it on the way back up...
I personally thought the Outsiders splitting up and Scott Halls Drunk gimmick was some of Kevin Nash’s best WCW character/acting work.
"But it was all a setup" ... Has to be the most overused phrase whenever there is a WCW video, no matter the channel.
WCW was the king of swerves. And not in a good way.
I barely watched the WCW as it seems there was ALWAYS "outside interference", group beatings, DQs. Got boring real fast.
@@MVProfits Yeah me too. At the beginning I thought it was wild and exciting, but after seeing a non-finish 50 times, you actually hope for a proper finish lol.
I always wished Hall joined the NWO Wolfpac instead of the NWO Hollywood. He needed a good face run in the WCW.
The original plan for the spilt according to Kevin was that Nash and Hall would start the Wolfpac and Hogan and Savage would led NWO Hollywood. It’s was gonna be battle of the generations. Bischoff couldn’t control them together, they were trouble. so he put Hall with Hogan and Savage with Nash. Lol
Especially considering Hall coined the term Wolfpac and it originally meant him, Nash and X-Pac as a trio.
Facts 💯
They should have never segmented the NWO. Call it something else cuz otherwise it gets diluted which it did.
@@jeremyfields9009 Oh ok, I was wondering why they didn't keep the outsider together.
Hall should open a wrestling school called “The Hey Yo Dojo”.
Lol
Wait hol up, that actually works
Mang, as Razor Ramon the school would be called "The Yayo Dojo", chico. Thinking of that: Is that a coincedence that Tony Montana always refered to coke as yayo and Hall used "Hey yo"?
@@mrblonde609
I always wonder why he said "hey yo" lol I personally never heard any greeting like that back in the day but then again, idk.
One of the best comments on any video that ive ever seen. Just so happens to be on a video of my favorite wrestler ever!!!! Hey yooo!!!
Scott Hall one of the best to never to win a world title
He, Jake and Perfect are my favorites
Same with Roddy Piper.
Owen Hart
One of the best overall
Was he never Impact world champ?
These angles were always really tough to watch, even during the "Attitude" era. Seeing him & Hawk like that was beyond sad. Scott's lucky to be alive.
Of Hawk it crossed the line
I hated Hawk's storyline. WWE last year went through it with Jeff Hardy.
@Ultra Instinct 94 He did, Droz shoved him off. It was even more distasteful, given Owen's fall that following May too.
TBH, people tend to forget that there was a lot of tasteless garbage during the Attitude era. You can blame Vince Russo for a lot of it.
@@fattiger6957 Are you trying to tell me that Mae Young giving birth to Mark Henry’s hand isn’t high art..? 🧐
It’s still hard to believe that Scott Hall is no longer with us. I started watching in 2005, so pretty much his career had come to an end compared to the previous 2 decades. But of course with TH-cam starting up and whatever classic content wwe would put out like dvds and their 24/7 on demand service it was a treat going back and watching his WCW stuff
One of the greatest wrestlers to never hold the world title. A true legend in wrestling
Such a talented wrestler, a damn shame his personal issues overshadows his work in the ring.
@Wales Eakes True, Mr. Eakes, but still a shame nevertheless
@Wales Eakes At least he got help. And to be fair the trauma of killing a man may have been one of the factors that lead to his self destruction
He was okay in the ring, nothing more. His best match (Mania X ladder match) was good because HBK carried him. Hall had a lot of charisma, a good look and was great with his character. But you can't say his in-ring work was good.
Hall ha the best working punches and kicks.
@@fattiger6957 he had a solid program with the kid and a couple really good matches with Bret Hart. I think he was a solid wrestler in the WWF especially for his size. I didn't really watch WCW, unfortunately, so can't comment on his in ring work there.
WrestlingBios coming strong on a Sunday. Much appreciated, Chico.
Agreed. Best wrestling channel on TH-cam imo.
Chico is racially insensitive and the police are on the way. Just fuckin with ya lol.
HEEEEY YOOOOO, BOY TOY!
Chico go eat some tacos, burrito s and some spicy enchiladas then wash it down with a nice Spaniard beer
This Dude makes some of the best Pro Wrestling Videos and music..
Jeff hardy watching scott hall in the late 90s
"Lemme take notes, this is good."
🤣🤣🤣
Brooooo 😂😂😂😂
Hey Yo! Scott was world championship material. The guy could just about do it all. The drugs ruined his life to near death, he could've possibly been even greater. Glad he's alive and doing well and in the WWE Hall of Fame. Razor Ramon will always be my favorite.
He was a Legend.A shame that he never was World Heavyweight champion
Big missed opportunity
He honestly didn't need the title. Hall was over without it.
Honestly like Vince said in a interview in 2004, he screwed himself by doing drugs
@@michaelsinger4638 hbk was still dependable compared to hall. plus wwe lacked stars at the time.
@@michaelsinger4638 Indeed. There are always other things at play and it's never as simple as the cliched "best for business" excuse. Wasn't it about four years of Shawn drawing a 750k salary without wrestling because of his supposed injury? Who else would Vince have done that for? Vince just seemed to be very fond of Shawn for some reason.
I was actually in the same rehab as Scott Hall. He is actually a really great guy irl.
@Iceman 23
Cool story hey. I also beat up Kevin Nash in a barfight.
The one distinct event of this angle I remember was Nash going into different bars looking for Hall and when he eventually found him he was near passed out laying in a bathroom stall drooling...
Scott Hall was and always will be my fave wrestler and I’m thankful he had a mate in DDP who has helped him change his life around
DDP is a saint. He saved both Scott Hall and Jake Robert's lives.
I agree, and that Scott Hall was my favorite wrestler ever as well!!!!
I loved the nWo remix at the beginning
I honestly think it slaps harder than the original lol
Your videos are so thoroughly researched and well presented, you deserve so many more subs! I know you’ll make it if you keep putting out content like this!
Bro you kill these documentaries give this man a job
Scott was the man, so many fond memories of him in WWE and WCW. I’m really happy that he’s managed to get his life back on to a much better track
Scott Hall was one of my favorite wrestlers during this era. It is ashame that neither organization saw him as world title holder, but he was definetly a world class main event wrestler.
Just appreciating him while we have him. I still remember some of his promos from when I was a child he was so raw, laid back and philosophical. I knew him before I knew Scarface. And I always loved when he flicked his toothpick at the camera.
Scott Hall didn’t need the world title . The world title needed him .
Could have and should have. Would have been a great heel world champion
AND NEVER THE TWAIN SHALL MEET! HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!
He’s didn’t need the world title. He put asses in seats anyway
@@SteveHill0528 enough said
I just heard of his passing. It looks klike he struggled with his own demons. May he finally find peace!!
Thanks for this. I'm sure it was a difficult episode to put together, while trying to be respectful to all concerned. That's why I watch this channel.
Last Call Scott Hall was just very sad to watch and it honestly really hard to watch. I know there was a reliving wrestling video on this and its definitely worth a watch if you can find it
Also: not only was it horrible taste, to say the least, to turn Hall's problems into a storyline - it also flies in the face of people like Eric saying since that they had Hall's best interests at heart when sending him to rehab.
My Dad was a terrible alcoholic, I was fourteen watching this had switched back to WWE at the beginning of this storyline as it was just to hard to watch. nasty stuff.
He's still one of my favorite just wish that he had a run as a heavyweight champ
You are totally correct with WWF not being above using the same tactics as a storyline. While the Scott Hall addiction story was playing out, Hawk of the LOD was doing his addiction story in WWF.
I remember turning off the tv in disgust a couple of times when Scott was pretending to be wasted and he was getting picked on,. They ought to be ashamed of the way they treated him.
It was something Eric Bischoff said years later he regretted ever giving the green light to doing at Creative's suggestion to make Scott's real life issue with booze a storyline for WCW
He said it was a personal / professional low for himself as a boss and as a man
@@michaelvaughn8864 Yeah, you know what they say about hindsight. I hope it doesn't keep Scott up at night anymore, he's one of my favorites and he was doing well the last I heard.
@@0therun1t21 I heard the same thing lastly about Scott Hall, too. I understand he's holding up well, sir.👍 It's good to hear that. Props to DDP for what he's doing with him and Jake 'The Snake' Roberts with his positivity
@@0therun1t21 Other former and retired wrestlers, also.
A true legend. Scott is truly missed
@8:32 "I'm not going to bang on about what's morally right & what isn't. You guys don't come here to listen to that stuff." THANK YOU, THANK YOU THANK YOU for respecting the viewer's perception unlike the other countless content creators on YT that do the exact opposite & falsely assume that a viewer would stay subscribed or like the video. Unwise habit to be including subjective opinions about what's morally right & what isn't. Nobody clicks on videos to hear that. Again, Thank You!
I remember when I was a kid I was playing 2k14 and the NWO theme started playing my dad yells out 'are you watching porn?!' and ever since then when I hear it that's all I can remember
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Just be lucky they never stated at Nash's nickname lol
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@@phantomsoldier87 or Scott Steiner's nickname.
@@phantomsoldier87 🤣🤣🤣 hilarious
As tasteless as this angle was, Hall doing the abdominal stretch and reaching for a drink instead of leveraging the ropes was way too funny.
Ay yo. I just wanna say, gracias for a Sunday vid chico.
I love this nWo Theme Version...please make a Playlist with your Theme Versions
I second this.....some of your themes are WAY better than the originals......and to top the original NWO theme is something else, well done.
Still waiting on the playlist
That entrance theme will never get old or tired of hearing it.
4 Life!
I personally thought the Outsiders splitting up and Scott Halls Drunk gimmick was some of Kevin Nash’s best character work
"character work" barrrrrf. No one watches wrestling for "character work", dork.
@@yoholmes273 I don’t watch it anymore I’m an adult now. What do you watch it for? The big shirtless sweaty guys probably.
@@matthewsmith5374 Project often your fantasies about other men? Or just always...
@@yoholmes273 yo homie you’re the one crawling up peoples asses over here. Lol
@@matthewsmith5374 Yep , always.
He deserved to win a world title in his wwf or wcw run . He had the charisma and personality to have mainevent spot
He had the machismo!
I think his demons were his biggest thing against him and kept him away.
@Wales Eakes had a better work ethic than many....including Hogan and Nash.
@@moorejonothan Hogan and Nash played politics much more. Hall just never had to drive to be the top guy. And he probably didn't want the responsibility either.
As an inherent addict myself, he hardly deserved any World Title, maybe early on in WWF, or a short reign in WCW. It just wasn't meant to be.
Scott Hall is still Top 5 GOAT To Never Win A Big 3 Promotion's World Title.
part of bringing it out into the open was due to them being left with little other options, they had tried getting him to rehab... Multiple times, and it was just not working. so a different, (as nash said.. "Tough Love") approach was tried, an attempt to really get through to Hall, that he needed to change his life.
Yes but they also made money off it but then again one of the road warriors fell off the titantron
Bios I’ve been begging for a 2 cold scorpio video. He’s one of the most underrated talents never talked about
Agreed
Vincent was always “just there” lol
Wwe did this to Jake the Snake well before this. Hell the famous Austin 3:16 promo makes reference to Jakes drink problem
"All he's gotta do is go buy him a cheap bottle of Thunderbird and try to get back some of that courage he had in his prime"
RIP Scott Hall. NWO 4 LIFE!!!!!
Wolf pack for life 👌🏼
"It all got a little messy".. That's a bit of an understatement.
I have nothing but sympathy for Scott Hall, I can't imagine what it must be like being forced to shoot another person who was threatening to take his life away. No wonder he turned to drink.
true story.
dude his drinking was on him it's his own fault !
@@robertmorrell6548 you do realize things led him to that right? Like having to murder someone in self defense.
@@codymcguire189 I’ve never heard of this story. What happened ?
No... NO! It’s the RAZORS EDGE!
My favorite wrestling channel, hands down. Thank you for such interesting and informative content. Huge fan!!!!
I was only an idiot teenager when this happened and Scott Hall was one of my favorites. I really thought this angle sucked even back then.
Sting never should've joined the NWO. He and Ric Flair were the TRUE WCW ICONS.
ITS STILLL REAL TO ME DAMNIT REEEEEEEEE
Sting joined the face faction of the NWO that was not at war with WCW.
@@stevebarnes4805 In my opinion, that led to the downfall of the NWO and ultimately WCW. Too many NWO members taking up too much camera time, rising talent always being squashed, seasoned veterans being buried by those with "creative control". NWO should have been kept as the "anti establishment force" like Stone Cold Steve Austin. When Sting joined WWE and was buried by Paul, McMahon's destruction of WCW was complete. If anything, Sting should have been the one to end the Undertaker's streak. That would be a way of giving respect to WCW for its part in making WWE what it was. At the end of the HHH vs Sting match at 'Mania, Bret Hart should've come out and nailed HBK.
I’m not gonna get on my soapbox but it is genuinely scummy that his personal issues were exploited like this. Scott deserved better
Scott hall was one of my favorite wrestlers his style and moves looked cool and hard hitting and his ring gear was cool to it was sad to see his personal demons overtake him
He may never have been a role model, but Scott was always one of my hero's!
The sad part about the Scott Hall's addiction storyline was replicated by Vince Russo (of course) in the WWF with Road Warrior Hawk
WWF did it with Jake Roberts first..
I still remember watching this angle back in the late 90's. I just remember thinking it was so sad; even though Hall was a heel he was easily one of the most loved and popular wrestlers period. I just remember thinking he was just wasted as a talent. Now I look back I realise that Nash was as well.
Nash and Hall had booking power in WCW. If they were wasted, it's their own faults. If anything, Nash got far too much of a push. He was boring as hell to watch.
Thanks for the vid. You brought me back to my childhood days watching WWF then transitioning to WCW because of Hall and Nash. What an amazing time for wrestling fans. 🙏🏽🔥
Shame how they treated Hall the way they did, and WWE was no better, either.
The most WCW thing ever to have Nash and Hall on the mid card instead of the main event and once again no clear cut winner. WCW would do that so often with interference you never had any clean wins. It is no wonder WWF won the war. Nash vs Hall could have been an excellent main eventer but nope.
RIP TO THE COOLEST, THE BADDEST, THE PLAYA 🕊️
Scott Hall lived a street over from me in Georgia. When I delivered a pizza to him. I was star struck. Said I was a huge fan growing up, but he kinda shrugged me off.
As great as the 90's were for wrestling was, there were some horrendous storytelling and this is right up there
To air one's demons to grab ratings is extremely low and a definite turn off but we live in an era of talk show trashing the most vulnerable so...
Great talent that deserved at least one title reign
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Yeh but wrestling was very watchable then compared to today
Just like how WWE used Hawk's drinking problem as a story line. It was in poor taste.
Your videos are great. Love all the cover of hall and Nash x
Scott was a wrestler during one of the biggest political play eras in WWE and WCW, theres no way hed ever get a world title run, that being said, Scott Hall is such a great performer that he will always be apart of that top 10 list in some peoples eyes.
Scott Hall was the first wrestler I really got into when I was a young boy. I remember playing as Razor all the time in the WWF Wrestlemania game for SNES. Razor Ramon(Hall) will always have a special place in my childhood memories.
Watching all this back, I can’t help but feel this could’ve been a good storyline. People’s main problem is that it involved Halls real life addictions, and it wasn’t executed that well.
My question to everyone here who didn’t like the angle is, is there a good way to do this storyline? Can we have addictions and personal issues in wrestling where it’s not seen as low or distasteful?
Answer: No, because it's disgraceful & distasteful being an addict to begin with. The companies publicly shaming/embarrassing those with the addictions doesn't help & honestly, does more harm than good by feeding/enabling the problems through the storyline.
@@TherealRNOwwfpooh TV shows cover addictions all the time. What if a wrestler whom didn’t have a real life addiction played the part? Can this storyline can be done well?
Well done sir. You really got your stuff together. Detailed and entertaining as well.
Scott Hall definition should have join the Wolfpack definitely wad created by Scott Hall Kevin Nash and Syxx the original Wolfpack
This is probably the most depressing part of his WCW run, and it should've NEVER, absolute NEVER have been a storyline. Look I'm a fan of the Jeff vs Punk feud, but that never contained footage of Jeff being (in storyline) wasted, it was more of a storyline about overcoming your demons. I totally agree with Bischoff's view on making storylines feel realistic, but this storyline was going way over the edge.
Except Jeff Hardy lost that angle to CM Punk, because his real world demons as a druggie forced WWE to fire him again. Then there's the whole mess leading to Victory Road 2011.
“You want a drunk character you got one”
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Remember when the outsiders would wrestle job guys before the show and video it. Lol saying they already had a match tonight 😂
We’re they like black and white films?
@@Seraph89_ yep. They brutalized those poor guys
@@rockykirkus7493 lmao I vaguely remember. Those skits were awesome to me back in the day.
@@Seraph89_ yeah bro they brutalized those guys lol in front of an empty crowd.
That first Jack knife was really gold
I remember watching him back in high school days, he always got drunk before going into the ring then when I heard he went through so much outside the ring, then finding out that whoever in WCW tried to make it as an angle and showcase it for everyone to see you suck and I hope you were proud, I felt for Scott Hall.
WWF did the same thing with Road Warrior Hawk too
Thanks for the memories, Razor.
Thanks for all your work WB. I enjoy your videos very much. Reliving some of my growing up days as I was a HUGE wcw fan. Thanks again!
"...and then, after Scott Hall got kicked out of the nWo..."
You know the angle has completely jumped the shark when these words are spoken 🤦♂️
And then he and Nash would later rejoin the NWO anyway. WCW was so stupid in storytelling. PLAN AHEAD! Don’t make it up as you go along!
Hall has always been one of my favorites, was really glad to see him recover with DDP
"Everything about the angle felt like a waste of time". WCW in a nutshell.
What's more accurate is the WCW seeing someone going through a hard time and struggling with an addiction and instead of getting him help they just exploited and embarrassed him on t.v. Reason 1,187,575 why WCW failed.
Because WWE never did anything like this. Wait, they did literally this exact same thing multiple times. Jake the Snake, Hawk....
You know, WCW using Scott Hall's demons in an on air storyline is really no different than WWF using Road Warrior Hawk's demons in a storyline.
While many considered the "post-death" of Paul Bearer - CM Punk/Undertaker angle as distasteful, I can say that William Moody(Paul Bearer) would have loved that send off. I was a pen-pal of his, and his love of the business included that being part of one last angle with The Undertaker would have made him very happy.
But using someone's "real life" demons(at least, while they were still going on) actually IS distasteful. Both companies are guilty of this.
@Jav Mar I had found his web page, which had an email address on it. I didn’t think he would reply, but he did. When I met him in person at a local show, he remembered me from the subject’s we had discussed through email. We kept in touch through email until his death.
Rest In Peace, legend. One of the very best ever.
Scott Hall was wrestling. Outsiders and NWO was the best material wrestling ever had. Those days were the best.
Really great stories always waiting for the new videos keep up the good work 🙏
At 20:38, I never understood why Goldberg didn’t lose to Hulk Hogan instead of Kevin Nash if Nash was just gonna drop the WCW title to Hogan shortly after winning it.
Maybe it's might be Bischoff or Nash trying to stop Goldberg
Not sure. Maybe to save face for goldberg?
I remember watching most of this and really not enjoying it back then. Crazy how most of us felt that way.