Re-review for 2023: Canon EF-S 10-18mm IS STM on an EOS R7

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  • I got so excited about this lens when it first came out in 2014. An ultra-wide lens that finally opened up the world of ultra-wide angle photography to anyone on a lower budget! Does it still have that shine in 2023, though, 9 years later?
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    This lens will work on Canon's APS-C digital SLR cameras, but NOT full-frame digital SLR cameras. It will also work on their EOS M system and RF-mount cameras, but only with the appropriate adaptors, and it will only give an APS-C image circle. Got that?! ...well, still less complicated than the compatibility issues for old Nikon DSLR lenses heh heh.
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  • @christopherfrost
    @christopherfrost  ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Ooops! I only meant to release one video today, not two...enjoy, everybody :-)

    • @GalacticoUC
      @GalacticoUC ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks Chris! did you tried the tokina 11-16 f2.8 on the eos R7?? weird performace on video and photo

    • @jw48335
      @jw48335 ปีที่แล้ว

      I own this lens - FYI - you can swap the lens mount with an eBay replacement lens mount that then allows the lens to be used on full frame Canon DSLR cameras as well as film cameras. It is usable from 12mm-18mm on FF SLRs. The most entertaining use I've found for it is on the 6Dm2, where it works for 12-18mm full frame 1080P with IS. The trick doesn't work on RF cameras though :(

  • @Wszyc
    @Wszyc ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Love those re-visits because the perspective what is good changes as we discover new and better gear. I bought all of my lenses after checking your reviews and Im happy that 10-18mm still delivers on the new R cameras :)

  • @jasondiaz5445
    @jasondiaz5445 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Thank you! I'd love to see the opposite now - 55-250 stm - and how it performs on the R7.

    • @wellingtoncrescent2480
      @wellingtoncrescent2480 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I really enjoyed the 55-250 on my M6 II, and I would also be curious about the R7. A nice review, thanks.

  • @eyeidea
    @eyeidea 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Christopher, these old / new combos are really cool! Thank you!

  • @kronusaerospace8872
    @kronusaerospace8872 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I actually used this lens recently for a real-estate photography job, at f/8 the image quality is more than good enough for web images. And the zoom range is just about perfect for that kind of work.

  • @armurray1
    @armurray1 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    As a new R7 owner myself, I really appreciate these videos since they give me lens ideas I may not have otherwise thought of.

    • @kevindiaz3459
      @kevindiaz3459 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Something that caught a lot of 90D users off-guard was how demanding a sensor that dense can be (both have 32mp sensors). I actually joined a group on FB just to help people figure out what was going on with their photos not being everything they expected. Granted, a lot of it was user error or just plain unreasonable expectations, but we found some lenses to just not have the punch needed to push the sensor, especially in the case of moving subjects. What I am finding on the R7 is the much more sophisticated AF system negates some of the issues that might have just been missed focus on the 90D, where even a slight miss could ruin a shot due to the nature of the sensor's density being so sensitive. I have far less trouble on the R7, but I would be sure certain lenses are still not ideal as they just lack resolving power overall. Basically, older lenses were made in an era before high MP existed, and over time lens design has gotten better. I would think any RF and RF-S lenses will be fine. Most lenses made after 2006 should also be fine. Macro lenses seem to just beat all the odds and just kill it. L glass from the EF mount, well, it's not all the way across the board here. Anything that was a mkI tends to be less ideal, while the mkII and mkIII versions are tops. Even some cheap lenses do well, like the EF 50mm F1.8 and EF-S 55-250mm IS STM (the STM version is the only one I suggest here, the older 2 versions are a no-go). Primes usually hold up.
      It isn't as perilous as it might sound, just be aware of it.

  • @B_-.-
    @B_-.- ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The fact that this delivers good sharpness on a 32mp sensor is seriously impressive. Crazy to think the optical design is nearly 10 years old! Seriously ahead of its time. The EF-S lineup from canon in the 2010s was seriously good.
    If I go onto the R7 (I am planning to buy a new body this year) it'll be thanks to these lenses!

    • @zegzbrutal
      @zegzbrutal ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember back then people complain about the aperture...just like nowadays

    • @B_-.-
      @B_-.- ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@zegzbrutal Well on my personal favourite, the 55-250, often has people talking about the fairly boring F5.6 max aperture. Sure it's boring, but, it's very practical. It lets in more than enough light for daytime action shots, or dawn/dusk shots on non moving subjects (With the IS on of course) - what more could you ask for out of a cheap lens?
      And as cameras get better at higher ISOs, it only becomes more usable as time goes by.
      Infact, Canons own "replacement" - the EF-M 55-200, goes down to F/6.3! - As do many cheaper tele lenses. It's not much darker sure, but it goes to show that F/5.6 isn't exactly dark. Same applies to most of the EF-S lineup.
      On UW lenses, you want to capture a lot, so you want a deep DOF anyway. If I owned one of these (I am tempted) I'd probably use it at F8 a lot of the time anyway- as I'm sure most would.

    • @southbridgeforestHOA
      @southbridgeforestHOA ปีที่แล้ว

      lots of 10 year old lenses work fine, not crazy at all.

    • @B_-.-
      @B_-.- ปีที่แล้ว

      @@southbridgeforestHOA it's pretty impressive that they work well on a 32mp sensor given 24mp would've been a lot back then.

  • @bburchellphotos
    @bburchellphotos ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I have one of these 10-18mm lenses when I had my Canon M5. It's a very under-rated lens that gave me many excellent wide-field shots. Quite a lot of manufacturers could learn a lot from this lens.

  • @745images
    @745images ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks Christopher, i had hoped you might revisit some previous lenses with the R7 and i am delighted you have. I really like the way you produce the videos because you follow the same format each time which makes lens comparisons for us consumers much easier. Your videos for lens reviews are my first stop.

  • @cropperson5583
    @cropperson5583 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love these R7 re-reviews. And I was just about to purchase this lens based on your previous videos but was wondering about adapting it to the R7. Thanks for the great review Mr Frost, you’re the best!

  • @maggiem1323
    @maggiem1323 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bought this lens mainly because of your review for my EOS M Magic Lantern rig last year. I use it for landscape and even light astrophotography even on manual focusing and with a mount adapter. It is truly a gem. Thank you so much for revisiting and adopting it to the R7. Bless you.

  • @matti_738
    @matti_738 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'll never get tired of these r7 test. Also because I have one too and I love it. Thanks for making these videos :)

  • @patrickfrangenberg4275
    @patrickfrangenberg4275 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much. Your Re-Reviews with the R7 are very helpfull for me!!! More of that!

  • @vinvanid
    @vinvanid ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice DSLR APSC lens review for R7, Chris, good job !
    Please retest other lens like EF-S 24mm 2.8 STM, EF-S 55-250 IS STM, EF-S 18-135mm IS STM, Tamron 17-35mm F2.8-4, etc.
    Thank you in advance 😄

    • @kevindiaz3459
      @kevindiaz3459 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Some quick hits for you for lenses I have used on my R7...
      EF-S 24mm F2.8 STM - Just as superb as it always was! So sharp for what I consider to be a must have lens for EF-S users. And since the R7 is pretty small, it makes such a compact setup, not to mention IBIS is awesome for lenses that have no IS. The adapter does add some size to it, but overall it's still pretty compact. Rumor is there will be a RF-S 22mm F2 at some point here, likely a re-mounted version of the very popular EF-M lens. Looking forward to that!
      EF-S 55-250mm IS STM - Again, it holds up. In a side by side test against the older 24mp 80D, there is a clear advantage in sharpness on the higher res sensor with this lens. So it resolves very well. Still has the drawback of the slow STM focus, but if you know how to do things like pre-focus, or don't shoot a lot of action, you will see the difference in resolution.
      EF-S 18-135mm IS STM - I didn't have this one, I had the newer nanoUSM version, but IQ is about the same. It's not bad, I didn't see a big difference in IQ from the 24mp or 32mp sensor. Still good though, and this lens is more about versatility than anything. I would suggest looking into the RF-S 18-150mm lens that can be bundled with the R7. It surprised me how good it was, and side by side does a better job overall than the 18-135mm. It even has fairly minimal focus breathing, making it great for close up shots! The smaller size is nice too. But if you have the 18-135mm you can use it and it will be fine.
      I don't have the Tamron lens to test, sorry.

    • @vinvanid
      @vinvanid ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kevindiaz3459 Wow, great experience sharing, thank you Kevin 👍😄

  • @JuanCarlosRivasPerrettaOboe
    @JuanCarlosRivasPerrettaOboe ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for these re-reviews !! Are definitely very useful

  • @therhythmoflights
    @therhythmoflights ปีที่แล้ว

    You are a total life saver Man🎉 you have no idea how helpful was ur videos in my photography life😊😊😊😊

  • @sam_757
    @sam_757 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Christopher, I’m here before this video gets thousands of views, I just want to say, thank you. You have made me purchase many lenses for my new 90D, and I must say, I love them. Anytime one one of my friends ask me about a lens, I always point to your channel. I’m very happy you take time to buy these lenses, go through the work to test it, then edit it. Great job man, your channel is awesome.

  • @georgiyonevski3894
    @georgiyonevski3894 ปีที่แล้ว

    Clicked the liked button on the start of the video! More re-visited lens reviews please!

  • @eliasdi
    @eliasdi ปีที่แล้ว

    I've loved this lens ever since I got it for Christmas a few years back. It's my favorite paired with a flash when my friends and I get together for events!

  • @JJBboomer
    @JJBboomer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Your reviews are great, concise and accurate. Could you please do the new canon rfs 10-18 and compare it to the proven efs 10-18? Thanks much!

  • @TBGTOMPHOTO
    @TBGTOMPHOTO ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep the R7 reviews coming! Just heard you mention that... we love all your videos!

  • @billmore7382
    @billmore7382 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Chris. Just what I was looking for.

  • @samuel_andreyev
    @samuel_andreyev ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve used this lens for press photography. It’s an extremely useful tool when it is important for the photographer to be discreet and not draw attention to themselves -- without sacrificing image quality. Don't be put off by the plastic mount -- the images look superb on a 32 megapixel 90D sensor!

  • @johnpickett5561
    @johnpickett5561 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is a great review and follow up with the newer mirrorless bodies. I’m looking to upgrade to an R7 and have this and some other EF-S lenses. Due to the limited options on RF for crop sensors at the moment, it’d be great to see some more of these revisits for other older EF-S lenses. I’d vote for the 18-135 STM, because I have one of those haha

  • @jwnrocks
    @jwnrocks ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the review! It’s very helpful to see different options for the R7. I’m trying to find a balance between cost and image quality for both stills, and video.

  • @jremi
    @jremi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video as always. As a R7 and EF-S 10-18 mm lens owner, I was quite happy to see I could justify keeping that lens and use it with an adapter. The 32.5 megapixels of that camera allow me to crop images without any significant loss in resolution which gives me some flexibility in terms of lens choice, I suppose.

  • @TotallySharkyComplete
    @TotallySharkyComplete ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep them coming!

  • @Hodenkat
    @Hodenkat ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm so glad this review made it to my feed! I own this lens and body but have not done a lot with it. It's been horribly dull and overcast for the past several weeks so I haven't taken this wide angle lens out for a fair spin. I'm looking forward to it now!

  • @charlesfisher2134
    @charlesfisher2134 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job as always.

  • @wab99
    @wab99 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great review as always, thank you. If you have time I would love to see how the canon ef-s 15-85mm does on the R7. Its one of my favorite apsc lens.

  • @matthewneleigh567
    @matthewneleigh567 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent review, thank you.

  • @GinoFoto
    @GinoFoto ปีที่แล้ว

    I took my most favorite photo with this little WAL, and also photo, which people like the most was taken with it, just a lovely one.

  • @krishnavandewalle9459
    @krishnavandewalle9459 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can’t wait for you to do the EF-S 55-250mm

  • @bhgemini
    @bhgemini ปีที่แล้ว

    I purchased this years ago after finding your channel. I love this on both the M50 and M6 MkII

  • @themapleafan
    @themapleafan ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for reviewing this lens I need to get one now

  • @Archontasil
    @Archontasil ปีที่แล้ว

    My favourite and most used lens ever. I use this to shoot interior, architecture, and even weddings.

  • @parmanduke
    @parmanduke 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have this lens and have adapted it to a Fujifilm X H2s with the Sigma adapter. Works flawlessly and the images are outstanding. The reviews online from various resellers across the internet rate this lens 4.7 or higher from thousands of sales so that says how fantastic this lens is.

  • @madarexxx
    @madarexxx ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi there :)
    I am glad that pro photographer like you is not above ye olde simple lenses of old canon days. I am using EF-S 10-18, 24/2.8, 55-250 IS STM with my old 100D/SL1 body as phantastic super light and unnoticable city backpack set.
    Love your videos and would like to see 55-250 re-review in this series!

  • @PhotoAmateur1986
    @PhotoAmateur1986 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the same set. I am very happy with it.

  • @cgm_rdgdl
    @cgm_rdgdl ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fantastic thanks Chris!
    I think I'm not the only one who'd love to see how the very old ef's 17-55 F:2.8 IS USM performs on the R7.

    • @mvp_kryptonite
      @mvp_kryptonite ปีที่แล้ว

      It performs superbly for me!

    • @kevindiaz3459
      @kevindiaz3459 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its pretty good. I have used on the R7 and 90D, and found it to do decent in front of those demanding sensors. I think it is better on the R7 as the AF is so spot on. I've mostly shelved mine though for the Sigma 18-35mm F1.8, as it just works so well on the R7.
      Rumor is Canon is doing an updated version for the RF-S series, but so far it's just a rumor. I hope so, as I always felt it needed an updated model with more recent engineering, lens coating, better overall IS, and nanoUSM. And the design was always kinda blah, it looks like a lens released in the early 90's but was released in 2006. I think an RF-S model could be all the things I wanted in an mkII of the EF-S model.

  • @doros9.2
    @doros9.2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would like to see a re-review of the Canon EF-S 55-250mm IS STM, with some focus on the AF on mirrorless, too! In general, I think many people have the Canon “kit” lenses so seeing how they perform on newer bodies, like the R7, is interesting. Keep it up!

  • @thedondeluxe6941
    @thedondeluxe6941 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great little lens! I used to use it on the EOS R to get around the 4K crop, and it work very well. Managed to get decent hand held footage too, even though the EOS R didn't have sensor stabilisation.

  • @lipshaha7411
    @lipshaha7411 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent review! I hope you test other old lenses on new cameras.

  • @michaelgatheringdust
    @michaelgatheringdust 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Having recently gotten an R7 these reviews are perfect!

  • @stephenpartridge686
    @stephenpartridge686 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool review, would love to see one for the EFs10-22 and the EFs 18-200 on the R7!!

  • @NeilSnapePhotography
    @NeilSnapePhotography ปีที่แล้ว

    I kept this lens for a backup Canon EOS 77D. I made some pro pictures last fall in the vineyards, and it performed perfectly. For the price and weight it is truly an incredible deal.

  • @marcbastien334
    @marcbastien334 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love love love these reviews as an R7 owner.

  • @ZadieBear
    @ZadieBear ปีที่แล้ว

    I purchased a used version of this lens for my IR Sony A6100 last Christmas. For IR, it is a nice little lens with no hot spots wide open. I adapted it with a Metabones EF to FE v4 adapter

  • @drtnrao57
    @drtnrao57 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good video ,thanks.

  • @cmeluzzi
    @cmeluzzi ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the review! With so many decent EF and EF-S lenses out there, most hobbyists won't need to pay extra for the RF lenses.

  • @MarcusDorsey
    @MarcusDorsey ปีที่แล้ว

    This lens is a surprising little powerhouse. Very great quality for the affordability!

  • @marcp.1752
    @marcp.1752 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice re-review, Chris. I am using this lens onto my 40D, 50D, since i've bought it into ca. 2014. It was way cheap, and since it's no F3.5-4.5, the IS makes up for that.

  • @Nviaz
    @Nviaz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the R7 reviews :-D

  • @jamiljaafar4170
    @jamiljaafar4170 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got mine for $106 last year for a used copy. Went out to shoot a cycling race with this lens and I couldn’t be happier.. ultra wide angle + IS; great combo for panning shots as riders go by..

  • @AabhasLall
    @AabhasLall ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this review! I have this lens on the 90D, which has the same sensor as the R7, and I always wondered if these lower end EF-S lenses are sharp enough for that sensor.
    Now I know at least one of my lenses is! :)

  • @renegadeeats
    @renegadeeats ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! Can’t believe it’s that sharp! Maybe 18-55 EFS kit lens re-visit? 👍🏻

    • @kevindiaz3459
      @kevindiaz3459 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Depending on the version you have, it can be different. The STM model I found to work decent on the 32mp sensor. In a side by side comparison with the older 24mp sensor of the 80D I found it to have no clear advantage; it just doesn't have the resolve to fully use the higher resolution. Which isn't bad, it still looks pretty good. If you were happy with it on whatever you have now it will still give the same results. If you have the older IS II or the original IS version, those don't fair so well. I would either trade up to the STM version or, if you are going to put some money into a lens anyway, look into the EF-S 17-55mm F2.8 IS USM instead. Used they can be found for under 400 USD now, and they are a large step up from any of the kit lenses.

    • @renegadeeats
      @renegadeeats ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kevindiaz3459 thank you so much Kevin! 🫶🏻

  • @trumannnnn
    @trumannnnn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks a lot! it would be interesting to try 17-55 and 55-250stm...when will they decide to make new rf-s lenses????

    • @kevindiaz3459
      @kevindiaz3459 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rumor is there will be an RF-S 16-55mm F2.8 IS USM at some point. Still just a rumor though. I don't know if they will do anything like the 55-250mm, if anything probably re-mount the EF-M 55-200mm to RF-S like they did the 18-150mm and 18-45mm. It looks like they will do that for several EF-M lenses like the 11-22mm and 22mm F2. Lot of rumors, but those last two I think are slated for this year.

  • @stevejacob7158
    @stevejacob7158 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have owned this lens for some time and as an experiment tried it out with my new R7 (plus adapter) and like you I am very surprised and delighted with the results from this inexpensive Lens and its performance.

  • @allanjamieson4732
    @allanjamieson4732 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    These re-tests are very useful, thank you. Especially for those of us who blew our budget buying an r7! I recently bought an older tokina 11-16 f2.8 as there are limited choices for the wide end on an r7 and it seems to be working a treat! The 10-18 is just a little too dark for Aurora/Astro. I'd be interested to see what you made of the combination if you have a chance.

    • @severin5833
      @severin5833 ปีที่แล้ว

      do you have IBIS issues with the Tokina on the R7? (in video mode)

    • @allanjamieson4732
      @allanjamieson4732 ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't used it for video yet. The focus motor might be a little noisy for video? it is quite an old lens.

  • @MrKkspeed
    @MrKkspeed ปีที่แล้ว

    One amazing thing about this lens is its image circle coverage, making it a budget ultra wide full frame lens too. When I mount it with an adapter on a full frame camera and zoom in at around 14mm, the vignette becomes very acceptable. Also this lens is a hack to counter the 1.6x 4k crop on earlier RF mount cameras.

  • @HeadlessChickenTO
    @HeadlessChickenTO ปีที่แล้ว

    As an R7 user, I really do appreciate these reviews. I do want to expand my lense lineup a bit. So far I have a 17-50 f2.8, the nifty fifty, 18-300mm f3.5-5.6, and a 150-600 f5.6-6.3. I also have the EFM 22mm f2 for my M50, that is one I'm waiting for the RF version of.

  • @PaulBawby
    @PaulBawby ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for reviewing this interesting lens paired with the R7.
    Even though I use my R7 predominantly for wildlife, I still do a fair bit of landscape photography with it. I've been looking for a lens that would be wider than the 18-150 mm kit lens, and that would be almost as sharp in the corners as in the center when paired with the R7.
    Again, thank you for your good work!!

  • @williamsoens9973
    @williamsoens9973 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree with all that is said here. I am using the same lens (bought secondhand on-line for less than £100) but with a Viltrox adaptor to the R7 camera and it works 100% in all functions. Helluva good setup.

  • @PatrickRosenbalm
    @PatrickRosenbalm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got this lens on sale right after it came out. Hard to beat for the price.

  • @przybylskipawel
    @przybylskipawel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    MORE R7 TEST PLEASE!

  • @RogerZoul
    @RogerZoul ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sick of old lenses on the r7. Thanks.

  • @mikeo1141
    @mikeo1141 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I waited a while before making the jump to mirrorless and finally purchased the EOS R7 a couple of months ago. Since I already had a collection of EF mount lenses, including the 10-18 IS STM, I felt comfortable just buying a Canon adapter and using all my old lenses. So far, I have not been disappointed, especially with my 'L' lenses. (Actually my only disappointment so far is with my Tamron 18-400 lens, which is also the softest of my lenses on my DSLR bodies.) It will be quite a long time before I feel compelled to buy any RF mount lenses. Thanks for doing this review, which confirms my experiences so far.

  • @pjurgensen2827
    @pjurgensen2827 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A drawdown would be the low light capability. I'd like to see a comparison to the budget RF 16 lens.

  • @kevindiaz3459
    @kevindiaz3459 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This quickly became one of my favorite lenses back in my days of shooting with the Rebel T3i. Up until that point I had not bothered with an ultra-wide due to them not really being in abundance on crop cameras and their cost just wasn't appealing to me at that time. This one stepped in at that 300 USD price point and turned out to be a good performer. The lightweight made it easy to keep with me, and the wide angle of view made for some fun compositions combined with that close focus. Its still the lens I most commonly suggest to people on crop sensor Canon cameras.
    As a side note, it has always disappointed me how a faster version of lenses like this was never made by Canon. An F2.8 model in the same style as the EF-S 17-55mm F2.8 IS USM would have been a welcome addition to the line up for those that just wanted something more and didn't want to have to get a full frame setup that would add not only cost but a lot of weight too. As it stands, I know of only two AF lenses with an F2.8 constant aperture that have a similar zoom range, the Tokina 11-16mm F2.8 and 11-20mm F2.8. Canon just never took their crop series all that seriously, and I while I realize a lens like this would likely still be the more preferred to the budget minded, I think there are a lot of enthusiast out there that want a faster version of lenses like this and would put the money into it. Even though I am now much more invested into full frame setups, I still keep a crop setup as it is lighter overall for those times where I just don't need my L glass. The 10-18mm goes in that bag, and my back is much happier when I am out walking around for 8 or so hours at a time.

  • @shihombreshi
    @shihombreshi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for your reviews. Could you test rfs 10-18?

  • @mattdp846
    @mattdp846 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a surprise. I was watching the original video of this lens just yesterday and wondering how it would perform in a mirrorless camera.

  • @mb-watches
    @mb-watches ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have this one and did use it also on my R7. Would really like to see an 11mm RF-S f1.8 image stabilised. That would be an awesome lense, lets cross fingers… Thanks for the review and yeah, can confirm your thoughts on the lens, thanks to your mother in law. Not getting sick at all of your reviews, keep them coming.

  • @Twobarpsi
    @Twobarpsi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I need a wide lens. Good review.

  • @SadPieface
    @SadPieface ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great to know because I believe that this qualifies this lens also for the canon 90D and for the canon eos M6 mKii unless there are more in camera corrections going on in the R7 (is this the case by the way?). These reviews dealing with the existing lenses adapted to high pixel density cameras are extremely useful. Other useful ones would be the EF-S 55-250 mm stm and the 2 EF-M zooms you recommended (EF-M 11-22mm and EF-M 50-200mm). These zooms cover all the basics and have not yet received the attention they deserve concerning their adaptability to high pixel APS-C density cameras

  • @JimmyOlsson
    @JimmyOlsson ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This lens is such a bargain! Such value for money! Love to use it with my Canon EOS M50!

  • @ademola5803
    @ademola5803 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was the first lens that launched me as a camera specialist at a camera store

  • @gdjaybee742
    @gdjaybee742 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I recently had an opportunity to acquire either a Tokina 11 to 20 2.8 or this lens. Being that both lenses have great review from Chris, I looked at the pros and cons, and ultimately went with the Tokina for only $150 vs the Canon at $180 both used. I felt that the IS wasn't that important versus the extra light, since I don't do too much videos, and the extra light is more useful in darker situations, and at wider angles, IS is not too important, just need to increase the speed a little, but still keep the iso lower, and a full frame equivalent of 17.6 is plenty for super wide situations.

  • @ChristopherGoetting
    @ChristopherGoetting ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, your copy is significantly sharper than mine. I got it for my 80D (24MP) and was never all that happy with it, but it is soft even on my R6II in 1.6x crop mode (~9MP). Guess I had real bad luck with it.

  • @dougsmit1
    @dougsmit1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd appreciate reviews of super wide, manual focus options from third party makers. I understand that there will be no autofocus lenses for RF but there are several companies making primes in the 9-13mm range. A few are in RF but it seems odd that there are many more options even for EF-M.

  • @sgladiadis
    @sgladiadis ปีที่แล้ว

    LOVE the R7 reviews! Bit disappointed about my Canon 10-22mm 3.5 though :( Sounds like I needed the 10-18

  • @FilipeMaiaFotografia
    @FilipeMaiaFotografia ปีที่แล้ว

    I Love the channel. I follow you since the your first year. Quick question. You used the EF-RF adaptor for the EF-S lens on the RF-S camera?

  • @Aariahjames
    @Aariahjames ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep the R7 content coming. :)

  • @stevepa999
    @stevepa999 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sick of these reviews? I love them. I get excited when you post reviews with the R7.

  • @leonardlevine1254
    @leonardlevine1254 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you please review the Ricoh GRIII or GRIIIx? It would be really interesting to see how that camera and its built-in lens would perform in your test.

  • @sharpskilz
    @sharpskilz ปีที่แล้ว

    I use this on my M6mk2 when my 16mm F1.4 sigma isnt quite wide enough. Its good. I would upgrade to the R7 for a bigger buffer but Im really happy with the pocketable size of the M6 so I'll keep it for now. Its my B camera for stills and I use it on a gimbal for videos. The 10-18 is always in my bag, doesnt get a lot of action to be honest but thats probably because I dont shoot a lot of ultra wide.

  • @martinhommel9967
    @martinhommel9967 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video. Have you tested the EFs 10-22 mm on an R7 body yet? I would be interested to see the results.

  • @GeorgiBonchev87
    @GeorgiBonchev87 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used the 10-18 for several years mostly for interior photography. Had decent image quality. Two downsides for me were corner performance after corrections and nasty small green flares from ceiling spotlights I had to stamp out every time. Later replaced it with 17-40L on Eos RP. To me image quality is way better but price and weight doubles.

    • @godofhope
      @godofhope ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The 10-18 is not good at all in the corners but the 17-40 is horrible. I spent 700€ for a 16-35 f4L and this lens can be called sharp

  • @zka77
    @zka77 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have this lens, using with m6mkII (same resolution as R7), and yeah it's got OK image quality and very wide field of view.

  • @Princeton_James
    @Princeton_James ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Christopher. I love your work. I didn't see the link in the description to your documentary on the church. I'd love to check that out. Can you post the link? Thanks.

  • @Wsmith247
    @Wsmith247 ปีที่แล้ว

    I miss this lens, i sold it and got the Tamron 10-24 and it is brighter and sharper in the corners but the Canon just had more character, not sure what it is but I took some of my best landscapes with it.

  • @encellon
    @encellon ปีที่แล้ว

    The EF-S 10-18mm is useable *IF* I keep its titanic field curvature in check (center focus can be at infinity and corners more like 12 feet). The trick is to set the focus *much much much* farther out, stop down to f/8, and use the lens's deep depth of field to my advantage. Indoor photos are less of a problem (where the subject field is often curved to fit the lens). Adapting onto a 'cropped' MFT mount works well (crops the worst of the corners). MFT speed-boasting is not a good idea. FYI - I passed on the R7 because it shoots abysmally mushy UHD 60fps fullish-frame video using some sort of horrendous line-skipping process. Otherwise a great camera.

  • @ehabko5818
    @ehabko5818 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about comparison between this and efs 10-18 ?? That would be very good video

  • @jamesle2926
    @jamesle2926 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a big fan of yours, Christ. as far as I recalled, It's been since 2018 .. So, in this series of EOS R7, could You review again the Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8 OS HSM with EOS R7 ? Because this is one of my favorite lens with my Canon EOS Rebel T3i, Thank you .

  • @Badonicus
    @Badonicus ปีที่แล้ว

    Two videos in 2 mins....mans on fire

  • @mvp_kryptonite
    @mvp_kryptonite ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice review. Other comments have listed lens but missed ef-s:
    10-22
    15-85
    17-85
    18-200
    35 macro
    60 macro
    Would be lovely to see how they perform on the R7

    • @kevindiaz3459
      @kevindiaz3459 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can help on a couple of those...
      10-22mm - The 10-18mm pretty well outperforms it on the 32mp sensor. It just lacks resolving power to make a difference, likely due to its age and overall design (wasn't intended for sensors with such high density). Still does ok, if you have one it should work decent. I and others found it has to be stopped down to get any real clarity though, but that is common on a UWA lens.
      15-85mm - I didn't have one to test, but seen plenty of shots from this lens in FB groups to know it is a good match.
      60mm Macro - the macro lenses of the world are a special breed of lens. They seem to just always be sharp due to their special nature. Comparing against the older 24mp sensor of the 80D I found it to have a clear advantage in sharpness in the texture and details of a subject, which of course is the bread and butter of macro shooting. I only got rid of mine as I was using my 100mm macro more often and felt someone else might as well get some joy out of what was my very first "upgrade" lens many years ago.
      35mm Macro - I didn't have one to test, but I would guess its the same case as the 60mm. I have yet to meet the macro lens that doesn't make the 32mp sensor it's bitch.

  • @greggassert9728
    @greggassert9728 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. How does the canon 10-18 compare to the ef-m 11-22 on the Canon m6 mark ii, since the r7 and m6 ii both have the 32.5 sensor?

  • @christof4105
    @christof4105 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    keep going with the R7 reviews ;)
    For me it´s really interesting to see if adapting ef-s lenses make any sense. Especially as there are not a lot of native rf-s lenses out there yet and FF lenses on apsc sensors dont make much sense.
    Also, i´m interested in a test of the ef-s 17-55 F2.8 IS USM lens on the R7, because i used this lens on a older dslr and it is quite sharp. I would want to use this lens as an always-on lens on my R7, but it´s quite heavy and i´d love to know how it compares to the rf-s 18-150 kit lens.

    • @christopherfrost
      @christopherfrost  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Can I ask, how were you able to find this video? It's meant to be set to 'unlisted' but I can't figure out how it's getting views

    • @christof4105
      @christof4105 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@christopherfrost Hi, i found this video in the playlist "canon lens reviews" on your channel

    • @JuanCarlosRivasPerrettaOboe
      @JuanCarlosRivasPerrettaOboe ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would also love a re-review of the 17-55 2.8 IS !! It would be the dream all around lens for the R7…

    • @kevindiaz3459
      @kevindiaz3459 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JuanCarlosRivasPerrettaOboe It works pretty well on the R7. I would say it does better on my R7 than it did my 90D basically because the better AF system. It's still the lens I suggest to crop shooters looking to get a little more serious about what they do, and want something versatile and fast.

    • @JuanCarlosRivasPerrettaOboe
      @JuanCarlosRivasPerrettaOboe ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kevindiaz3459 Thanks!! How is the IS system? Doesn´t work as good as the native RF lenses right? Is it sharp enough for video on 4k?

  • @michaelwhiles5282
    @michaelwhiles5282 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cracking lens and super cheap especially 2nd hand - wish I could get a Fuji fit version ! Yes I know I can adapt one but whilst I’m wishing….😀

  • @nicktheophylactou
    @nicktheophylactou ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do a review of the 55-250 stm on the r7 pls

  • @mariotahitoe
    @mariotahitoe ปีที่แล้ว

    Use it with M6ii and BMPCC 4K for video. The color is very warm. It is soft when I try to shoot with some backlight. It just doesn't match well with the EFL lenses. It is a decent lens in optimal condition. But I find it quite lacking when I'm trying for more creative shots. But this video makes me want to give it one more try before buying a more expensive wide zoom. Because the other options are pricey!