Debate: Is Engineering Solar Radiation A Crazy Idea?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.พ. 2025
- Climate engineers around the world are developing technologies that aim to reflect sunrays away from Earth. This intervention, they argue, could cool the climate and help address concerns about rising global temperatures. But skeptics say messing with Mother Nature could have unintended consequences. Should climate engineers try to dim the sun?
FOR THE MOTION:
Clive Hamilton - Professor & Author, “Earthmasters: The Dawn of the Age of Climate Engineering”
Anjali Viswamohanan - Scholar, Oxford
AGAINST THE MOTION:
David Keith - Professor, Harvard & Founder, Carbon Engineering
Ted Parson - Professor, UCLA
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Continuing emissions unabated is also crazy, maybe even more crazy. But that's what we're doing
what a bunch of crap, we witness geoengineering every day be it purposeful or accidental.
Why are they making this about race and sex? Sad that scientists seek to convince the public that their ideas are correct by saying that disagreement with them is rasict and sexist.
to confuse and obfuscate.
Atmospheric aerosol injection has been going on for the last few years , i watch them spray and watch the clouds form .
devin buercklin ~Stop. Just stop. We’re not frigin stupid. It’s been going on and maybe whomever is doing it doesn’t want to tell the public so they don’t panic. But don’t gaslight what is happening DAILY.
@devin buercklin GROW UP! Millions of us KNOW what has been going on for a couple decades and longer. Give up your BS, it doesn't work.
@@Hashbitnitwit OK so if you honestly think it's happening then do something. Do some right winger shlt most likely storming some building and attacking some people or whatever. Let out your brainless lnsanity
There is no debate here only the pretense of one. The _opposition_ is toothless. The first speaker said nothing definitively against solar radiation management until the very end and the second advocates some ambiguous 'fairness' in the usage of this particular technology as if it is already a foregone conclusion and both seem only concerned about policy regulation not implementation itself. The only apparent disagreement is over minutiae and not directed at the proposition at hand. You cannot have a debate without _an actual and discernible opposition._
There is no opposition to whether it actually works though. We know that sulphates would cool the earth. It's everything else where there's uncertainty
"crazy" can mean anything, what a stupid motion. for means nothing and against also means nothing
Perhaps also the reason why a couple of the speakers were less than desirable.
I think it's kinda a silly title but the takeaway is that at least in this audience most people are for further solar geoengineering research.
The answer is reform of agricultural practices. Ground cover crops sequester carbon and improve soil quality which reduces the need for petro based fertilizer.
Can help but it's not enough. Climate change if we're to overcome it will need everything including solar geoengineering most likely
Yes, yes it is crazy. Any non-zero chance of being unable to reverse the operation is unacceptable. Totally crazy.
Agreed, which is why it needs to be at L1, a million miles away.
Ah well just put ur feet up and wait for climate change to kiII us all then. That's a much better idea
except it can be ramped down if we started it and it wasnt working as intended. so youre wrong
What I find funny is they are talking about deploying this idea in the future even though in reality it has already been deployed a long time ago. The criss cross shaped artificial clouds in the sky is solar geoengineering sprayed into the atmosphere from airplanes which has been happening for at least a decade before this debate occurred on a regular basis. And it was being done at a smaller level starting from the 1940's. I personally think it is a crazy idea since we don't fully understand how the climate works. However the climate can still be controlled in many ways such as making it rain and creating droughts and who knows what else more they can do. They understand some side effects but a lot is unknown especially in the long term. I think this is a really risky idea.
Cool story bro 👍
It'd be interesting to have an IQ2 debate about nuclear fission.
They (IQ2) have a debate about nuclear power vs green energy (wind solar geothermal) to answer the climate crisis. Check their channel.
Let's try a different approach. So hey debaters. While you're all sitting around discussing whether this is a crazy idea or not, it appears that either someone else is already doing it and has been doing it for years now, OR our passenger planes are creating so much pollution that they are doing the job for you. You might want to check it out. I think someone is infringing on your existing patents. It's happening world wide and it's happening just as you are proposing it would work. Air planes flying and spraying a substance that spreads over the sky and blocks out the sun. Someone somewhere is making a a fortune on the manufacturing of the spray they are using. You should definitely look into this. It may be in the wrong hands already!!
Rosiemck1 ~this is all pretend
Keep that lil smug!
What about putting a Fresnel lens at the L1 point between the Earth and the Sun? A 1000 km*km lens would reduce radiation reaching the earth by 1%. The lens could be built with 100 100km*km lenses with active control to deploy the lenses and keep them in place at the L1 point. A project for SpaceX.
Wait up. I'm about to watch this video. Are you saying they're about to propose solar dimming for an hour and a half and NOT put this idea on the table? That'd be insane.
Being student of science and a farmer son, I can this is suicidal idea. What they proposing is putting more sulfur with other chemicals in hemisphere without knowing Mother Nature. This another gate to enter in more complex climate changes instead fixing. Let me tell you common sense example.
Will putting surfer on your head resolve heat wave or climate problem, Its just you are putting your hand on you eyes and says sun is set.
We need more organic ways to address this issue, I did little experiment at my hometown. My father being old-school and blindly following modern agriculture culture cut trees around my farm. He says it's block air and reduce agriculture production . So 5 years back I Planted 20 tree around my farm house and now its 70% cooler than earlier in hottest summer and my mother says now it's big relief in farm house and understood that trees are more fruitful overall then aggressive strategy of more farm production for money
If you want to experience this just stand 30 secs in direct under sun and stand 30 secs under tree. See how much trees are powerful. People like to park vehicle under tree instead roof top because tree will save vehicle from becoming fire bunker.
HeatWave is not some vehicle that if you put wall between it will stop. If you see from other angle Engineering Solar Radiation will make our earth Solar bunker. Bunker can stop sun ray but not heat. Heat is energy not some stuff so you can block. We need to find way to absorb that energy to consume that energy.
I hope this panel knows that you can not kill or block energy. Energy can be absorb, utilise and transform.
Obviously they just want public researchers to help out weather warfare since their best and brightest cant do it on their own.
It serves no other purpose
One has to wonder why reforestation or desert reclamation is not being put at the forefront in the debates and public discussion on these mitigation efforts. After all, increased CO2 concentrations will better assist plant growth and could be purposed to enhanced crop yields and coverage. Instead, mainstream publications are now touting this deleterious approach of blocking incoming sunlight and consequently diminishing photosynthesis which would invariably reduce agricultural production risking widespread famines; yet even this goes unmentioned!
David Keith: the kind of guy to destroy the world’s natural water cycles and then blame it on his computer...
Robby de Beurs: the kind of guy to try and make smart comments against people actually trying to do something about the mess we're in.
So basically conspiracy theorist were right. Its chem trails with fancy words
theres zero evidence for chem trails. zero. theres cloud seeding in places that have severe drought places like california. but that isnt solar geoengineering
It's already happening according to some
The only evidence I've seen from them is them filming the sky. Loosely speaking they're into lots of conspiracies. Click on their accounts and you see they're subscribed to flat earth stuff and to people that have pushed q anon stuff. Sometimes the type of person that is telling me something is all the proof I need that most likely the total opposite is true
i think the some youre talking about are mistaking cloud seeding in california for solar geoengineering. theyre not the same.
#WEDONOTCONSENT
✔ out Mike Decker
The emotional appeal (fear mongering) and speculation in this debate on the side for the resolution is absolutely disgusting. Do yourself a favor and skip to the end or don't watch at all.
Seems the audience didn't care to hear the for side either. That's what happens when all you have is fear mongering. Who wants to listen to that? Morons. They could have easily done better.
that david keith has dodgy written all over his face
Yahh that's how you should shape your view of the world when you're an adult, if you like the look of the person saying the stuff then that means that stuff is true, and if you don't like the look then it's dodgy
@@deanfowles3707 well one day when you grow up you can shape whatever veiw you like
@@phoodbeats2582 its just shows how easily tricked people like you are. if he'd been clean shaven good ol american boy like all them republican scurnfugks youd probably trust him.
Fantastic debate. We must at least consider, discuss, research and govern solar geoengineering- branding it crazy is dangerous.
It's also dangerous to be filling the skies with their toxic mix for over two decades now, as they have been. And the keep ramping it up. Do you realize this is destroying crops, animals, and humans? Go to Dane Wiggington's site as geoengineering.org and you can find a patent library that will open your eyes to the immense dangers this is causing.
@@creed4022 honestly don't you get bored of being so r3tarded?
The SRM an easy fix but it will help mitigate the the damage we will have to deal with as we implement the solution (renewable energy) and wait for the solution to bear fruit.
did we just get a summary of a rick and morty episode from thick Indian accent women
How about something altogether different? There are numerous projects working on nuclear fusion, including some big projects which are funded by many different governments. Maybe every government in the world, at least the ones with the necessary resources, should create a new and massive project with the goal of finally cracking this problem. ITER is a good start but it's just not enough, it's time to throw everything we have behind fusion research, a successful reactor would result in a true golden age for the human race.
Nobody seriously thinks we're anywhere near nuclear fusion
@@deanfowles3707
We already have fusion, but I think you mean fusion power right?
Define close. The newest experiments aren't even using tokamaks and they're showing some very interesting results. They can minimise neutron damage to the container, don't have the same issues with controlling the plasma and extracting energy is less of a problem than a tokamak. These are very new techniques but they've already taken huge strides, building test reactors and running them within a few years, something which usually takes decades.
Fusion power will be one of those things where we keep taking small steps and then everything will slot into place quickly.
The two most interesting approaches to my mind are the ones using Magnetized Target Fusion or Field-Reversed Configuration, with Helion Energy doing some really interesting stuff.
Mute debate. It's being done right now. Look up and see the trails of aerosol being sprayed. Constant here in southwest Florida.
Oh you're from florida....figures
As to the non natural ingredients "....ohh... a bunch pf other stuff is being discussed".
First debate I've watched where all four debaters are wrong 😅
The moderator makes a massive leap when stating "....I assume that everyone here is arguing in good faith !?!?..."
How can anyone know. How do I know what you said is said in good faith even?
We all could've done without the random and pointless rick and morty tangent, it took too long to say too little. Good job wasting time. The first talker was terrible, really.
As crazy idea as bioweapons are.
DAARP
Meh Earth has done this hundreds of times, warms and cools, for at least the last half million years it’s been on a hundred thousand year cycle from a mean temperature of -6c to +4c back down to -6c
It's a political stunt. It's all tied into the UN's agenda 21. Google it, might want to see what the Georgia guidestones are too"
there is a 10 year lag on CO2 effectiveness on greenhouse i am very sorry to tell you that it is way tooooooo late please get your heart and house in order NOW
Liberals arguing with liberals, wonderful
Liberals? Ya do know that trump literally made a rule that his supporters aren't allowed to say the words "climate change" or "global warming"
Conservatives aren't interested in conserving the environment, their minds are too full of hatred and being trigger happy.
Your conservative president also wanted to send a bomb into a hurricane.
their political leanings arent even mentioned here. but its interesting that you call them liberals. is it because they dont talk like m0rons?