@@NipplesOfDestinyi'm thinking of maybe 8500g in a mITX case, i've lost my cravings for games these days as they give me motion sickness although there are a few games on my bucketlist like HL Alyx (donh have a VR for now) and Half Life 3. let see how things turn out
Honestly in some games the performance boost going from 1600 to 2600 is quite impressive either in averages or 1% lows, please add intel era correct cpus too, such as i5 7400 or 7600k it would give an interesting contrast how those cpus aged on the other "side".
Currently Running a 2600, had a b350 mobo, upgraded to x570, now saw two option for the cpu, 5600x new and 5950x used both same price, really happy with my 6600xt
Still rocking the KING from 2019 till today with 4.0oc waiting for the new AM4 if they have any performance and price difference to the x3d or i may get the 5500 and OC it. Great review wait for the x3d and the new am4 CPUs.
I’m glad I’m upgraded from my 2700x to a 3900x, then the 5800x3D for one of my gaming PCs, being a HTPC 😉😇👍.Until the Ryzen 5000 series, Ryzen wasn’t performing as it should’ve, imo. I’m currently on a 7950x3D for my main PC now and more than happy with its performance, x3D cores only for gaming and all 16 cores for productivity etc.
Im planning to upgrade my 2600 to a 5500 near or the start of 2025. I can already tell that with newer games coming in the future, old hardware cant keep up with now intensive games are now.
I'm running that right now! I've only ever had 1080 monitors and it's been just fine at that resolution. I couple it with an RTX 2060 6gb and they've served me well. When I move and have more room I have a slightly newer build ready to go....
@@something2941 Really depends on what you want to play. The last games I bought and ran well were the Dark Pictures games. More modern titles would push it a bit far. I am upgrading to a 5700X and a 2080ti in my next build. It'd cope with TLOU and Forbidden West. TBH newer games don't appeal all that much.
I think another factor to consider with why someone might not go to AM5 just yet is not wanting to deal with the pitfalls of early adoption. Often the first generation of any new platform can become the "beta test after the beta test."
I'm on 2600 and not planning to upgrade it. It's utilized at 70% at most in games that I play, while I'm more limited by 6650XT on 1440p so GPU will be the next upgrade. I'm appalled by amount of people on TH-cam and reddit saying a person needs top tier CPU upgrade whenever someone asks should they upgrade. Mpst of the time they're limited by gpu
@@terrafair3248 if u upgrading u should at least get 3600 or 5500. they are cheap as well. as most modern game now requiremet 3600/5500 because that similar performance to ps5 and xbox. 2600 starting showing age
yes, 90% or 99% youtuber using 4090 to test cpu and telling u huge differences. they never have very simple common sense those still using older cpu 2600 etc never going to get 4090. those who own 4090 never need to waste any minutes watching this kind cpu comparison video as they already upgrade cpu as well.
@@yi-vn4fz well they test with a 4090 not bc it's a gpu that makes sense for the cpu but to showcase what is the maximum performance the cpu will do, if you want a cpu that will do high refresh rate then you can clearly see which one is gonna be good for you or if your cpu can't do solid 60fps in the newest games.
if you're using a 6650XT with the 2600 i would definitely upgrade cpu first. i just upgraded from a GTX 1070 to RTX 2070 Super and i can feel the CPU dragging behind in a lot of games
Upgrade ram, mobo, aesthetics, cooling honestly Proc and gpu upgrade is halted in recent years at low end Same old cpu and gpu performance for same price, only more aggressive marketing
Interesting video I recently built myself a Ryzen system based around the 1600 AF which is basically the same CPU. For what I need right now it is doing the job paired with an RX 5600XT and 32GBs DDR 4 3200.
Still using this CPU combos - resistance to upgrade in the intel 14th gen / amd am5 right now, will giving this cpu combo to my nepphew soon - waiting for worth upgrade in 2025.. hope we see good CPU improvement in 2025
The benchmarks seem like something that would fit my use case, i don't really need supee high fps but a reasonable one at the highest settings in those games.
I went from the 2600 with an GTX 1080 to a 3700x with a 5700xt then to a 5700x 6800xt and now I recently switched to the 7800x3d because I got a great deal on on the mobo and cpu.
Why in your tests cyberpunk 2077 on p5 2600 does not give more than 50 fps? The Internet is full of gameplay videos-tests of this processor and in the above-mentioned game the processor is capable of giving more than 80 frames...
Currently got a 2600x and a 1060 6gb. Planning to get a 7800xt within the next month and then upgrade to a 5600x minimum within the next 6 months. Will be going between a 1080p 165hz monitor and a 4k 60hz tv. Is this a good idea?
2600 is still ok for 1080 and even 1440p in most games if you have a good gpu. But if you want the best performance from your gpu you need to upgrade. I will keep my 2600x for now buy i will surely look to upgrade now that I've got Rx6800.
@@lokigh888 I bought b550 motherboard and it is stable with ryzen 2600 on debian 12. Plan to upgrade to 5600gt. Few % less comparing to 12400 is fine for me as I usually use it for browsing and code compilation. Had problem with 4 stick memory. Only 2 works but after switching to 5600 it will be ok.
That s my master plan. I will buy an Ryzen 2600 and years later will upgrade to a 7600 for double performance. Don t think there is a better value for money build currently out there. 🎉
That's a lot of work! Very nice video but i really do disagree with using the 4090 - mainly because of nvidia's driver overhead. We know from prior testing with the 3090 over at hardware unboxed that lower end cpus will suffer more and also older architectures. The 4090 is a level above that and I would very money that you would potentially see an fps increase using a lower tier card like a 3080 or 4070 on the 1600/2600, etc. Regarding the 2600 - I owned one and even played Cyberpunk on it at release with a 3070. However, i upgraded to a 5600X and the gains were amazing... maybe 30+% in all games, if I'm remembering correctly. Transcoding times were cut by ~60% and that was a big increase... I remember that very clearly!
It was funny how back in 2017 AMD fanboys were expecting some miracle bios update that would boost cpu gaming performance. Also the poor Adored fanboys who believed in his snake oil - *720p benchmarks don't show the true future performance BS*.
On most older CPUs the scheduling overhead from the RTX 4090 is a major burden. So for this test you'd get better results from an AMD GPU. Then there's the PCIE 3 vs 4 issue.
Great content! But why is the 7600 performance so lackluster in cyberbunk? 102 avg fps with a 4090 gpu at 1080p resolution is embarrassing? Something wrong right?
Even on Ultra 2600 is playable but ultra and RT kills CPU's even newest one.Lowering shadows and numbers of backround characters would skyrocket these results.And 2600 is not new gen it is ZEN 1+ like Piledriver was compared to Bulldozer.
I got a ryzen 5 2600 For free becose my was upgradeing. That hapend to day. Idk what to to whid it becose i alredy haw a i5 13600kf and a ryzen 5 3600 in my pc's
Sitting with a 3600 and a NVIDIA GTX 1660 I got here in Australia just before the COVID really hit in 2020 - time for an upgrade now it's been four years and with Windows 10 support ending in 2025 - chose AM5 and a Ryzen 9 7950X plus a Radeon 7900XTX now I have more disposable income. Not a gamer but more into design and 3d. The 3600 is going to be re-purposed as lounge media PC with a different case.
My 2600 paired with an rtx 3060 12gb started showing its age in modern titles like horizon forbidden west, alan wake 2, avatar pandora so i went for a quick update without breaking the bank i bought 5700x for $200 because moving to am5 was costing me 460+$ 😭
I'm still rocking a 2600 and rx 580, best combo I've built so far
I've got the same. Brought rx6700xt and thinking about R5 5600
@@roberto260385i have rx 6700xt and r5500 but i want do build pc for my friend ryzen 2600 and rx 580 8gb
It’s getting old , I have the same atm, I can barely play helldivers 2 at low settings…
my first pc was R5 2600 & 1660 in 2019
unfortunately I sold my PC last year..looking forward to buy a new one
@@NipplesOfDestinyi'm thinking of maybe 8500g in a mITX case, i've lost my cravings for games these days as they give me motion sickness
although there are a few games on my bucketlist like HL Alyx (donh have a VR for now) and Half Life 3.
let see how things turn out
I am still rocking with R5 2600 + RTX 2060
same - dont really see many issues but im keen to upgrade still
can't believe a 2060 is considered smth you'd need to think about upgrading now
@@melvindoo2396 you all switch from 60hz to 165 and from 1080p to 1440p and will se how old ryzen holds up XD
@@rarestpepe8835 what a useless comment.
Honestly in some games the performance boost going from 1600 to 2600 is quite impressive either in averages or 1% lows, please add intel era correct cpus too, such as i5 7400 or 7600k it would give an interesting contrast how those cpus aged on the other "side".
Well done man. Epic levels of benchmarking there. Truly impressive, and very interesting results.
Currently Running a 2600, had a b350 mobo, upgraded to x570, now saw two option for the cpu, 5600x new and 5950x used both same price, really happy with my 6600xt
Still rocking the KING from 2019 till today with 4.0oc waiting for the new AM4 if they have any performance and price difference to the x3d or i may get the 5500 and OC it. Great review wait for the x3d and the new am4 CPUs.
I’m glad I’m upgraded from my 2700x to a 3900x, then the 5800x3D for one of my gaming PCs, being a HTPC 😉😇👍.Until the Ryzen 5000 series, Ryzen wasn’t performing as it should’ve, imo.
I’m currently on a 7950x3D for my main PC now and more than happy with its performance, x3D cores only for gaming and all 16 cores for productivity etc.
Im planning to upgrade my 2600 to a 5500 near or the start of 2025. I can already tell that with newer games coming in the future, old hardware cant keep up with now intensive games are now.
I'm running that right now! I've only ever had 1080 monitors and it's been just fine at that resolution. I couple it with an RTX 2060 6gb and they've served me well. When I move and have more room I have a slightly newer build ready to go....
I have a rx 460 and 2nd gen i5 would an rtx 2060/rx 6600 and ryzen 5 2600 be good? 😂
@@something2941 Really depends on what you want to play. The last games I bought and ran well were the Dark Pictures games. More modern titles would push it a bit far. I am upgrading to a 5700X and a 2080ti in my next build. It'd cope with TLOU and Forbidden West. TBH newer games don't appeal all that much.
I think another factor to consider with why someone might not go to AM5 just yet is not wanting to deal with the pitfalls of early adoption. Often the first generation of any new platform can become the "beta test after the beta test."
I'm on 2600 and not planning to upgrade it. It's utilized at 70% at most in games that I play, while I'm more limited by 6650XT on 1440p so GPU will be the next upgrade. I'm appalled by amount of people on TH-cam and reddit saying a person needs top tier CPU upgrade whenever someone asks should they upgrade. Mpst of the time they're limited by gpu
I have a 4790k and strix 970 was thinking about getting a 2600 of of ebay and getting a 6600
@@terrafair3248 if u upgrading u should at least get 3600 or 5500. they are cheap as well. as most modern game now requiremet 3600/5500 because that similar performance to ps5 and xbox. 2600 starting showing age
yes, 90% or 99% youtuber using 4090 to test cpu and telling u huge differences. they never have very simple common sense those still using older cpu 2600 etc never going to get 4090. those who own 4090 never need to waste any minutes watching this kind cpu comparison video as they already upgrade cpu as well.
@@yi-vn4fz well they test with a 4090 not bc it's a gpu that makes sense for the cpu but to showcase what is the maximum performance the cpu will do, if you want a cpu that will do high refresh rate then you can clearly see which one is gonna be good for you or if your cpu can't do solid 60fps in the newest games.
if you're using a 6650XT with the 2600 i would definitely upgrade cpu first.
i just upgraded from a GTX 1070 to RTX 2070 Super and i can feel the CPU dragging behind in a lot of games
Until I get my new board and stuff set up next week im still rocking the 2600! Its done me really well with all my 4k editing along with the 1070 lol
Decent CPU. I'm still rocking my 5800x, warm but mighty
Good work!
I have a 2600 and a 1660 gpu ,
What should I upgrade first
Upgrade ram, mobo, aesthetics, cooling honestly
Proc and gpu upgrade is halted in recent years at low end
Same old cpu and gpu performance for same price, only more aggressive marketing
Interesting video I recently built myself a Ryzen system based around the 1600 AF which is basically the same CPU. For what I need right now it is doing the job paired with an RX 5600XT and 32GBs DDR 4 3200.
for 5600xt or 5700xt need a 5600 procesor or will do bottleneck
@@Maxredz Might be because I run linux but that has never been a problem.
@@certs743 for games 2600 bottleneck arround 30% in 5700xt
Still using this CPU combos - resistance to upgrade in the intel 14th gen / amd am5 right now, will giving this cpu combo to my nepphew soon - waiting for worth upgrade in 2025.. hope we see good CPU improvement in 2025
I have a R5 2600
will it be a good combo if paired with RX 6600 (with 16 gb 3000Mhz)??
Absolutely
The benchmarks seem like something that would fit my use case, i don't really need supee high fps but a reasonable one at the highest settings in those games.
I went from the 2600 with an GTX 1080 to a 3700x with a 5700xt then to a 5700x 6800xt and now I recently switched to the 7800x3d because I got a great deal on on the mobo and cpu.
Why in your tests cyberpunk 2077 on p5 2600 does not give more than 50 fps? The Internet is full of gameplay videos-tests of this processor and in the above-mentioned game the processor is capable of giving more than 80 frames...
Currently got a 2600x and a 1060 6gb. Planning to get a 7800xt within the next month and then upgrade to a 5600x minimum within the next 6 months. Will be going between a 1080p 165hz monitor and a 4k 60hz tv. Is this a good idea?
Im super nostalgic for this generation. 2600 and 2700 were such a good value even if they didn't compare well gaming wise to intel.
You still doing the DDR4 4000c15 vs DDR5 7400c34 ?
Upgraded from a 2600 to a 5600 and running a 4070 with it. 1440P runs well for me.
I'm currently sitting on 2600 and still waiting for the rumored certain 5000X3D to be unveiled.
2600 is still ok for 1080 and even 1440p in most games if you have a good gpu. But if you want the best performance from your gpu you need to upgrade. I will keep my 2600x for now buy i will surely look to upgrade now that I've got Rx6800.
The 2600 is definitely more stable with better memory compatibility in my experience.
Will it work well with 2080 ti at 4k?
I have ryzen 2600 and bad motherboard?
Is it worth to upgrade to b550 and ryzen 5600 in 2024?
Nope... Better u choose 12400f
@@lokigh888 I bought b550 motherboard and it is stable with ryzen 2600 on debian 12. Plan to upgrade to 5600gt. Few % less comparing to 12400 is fine for me as I usually use it for browsing and code compilation. Had problem with 4 stick memory. Only 2 works but after switching to 5600 it will be ok.
I am still uesing ryzen 5 2600x and rtx 3060 12gb graphics card and 32gb ddr 4 ram 3000MHZ I am not planning on upgrading my cpu
That s my master plan. I will buy an Ryzen 2600 and years later will upgrade to a 7600 for double performance.
Don t think there is a better value for money build currently out there.
🎉
That's a lot of work! Very nice video but i really do disagree with using the 4090 - mainly because of nvidia's driver overhead.
We know from prior testing with the 3090 over at hardware unboxed that lower end cpus will suffer more and also older architectures. The 4090 is a level above that and I would very money that you would potentially see an fps increase using a lower tier card like a 3080 or 4070 on the 1600/2600, etc.
Regarding the 2600 - I owned one and even played Cyberpunk on it at release with a 3070. However, i upgraded to a 5600X and the gains were amazing... maybe 30+% in all games, if I'm remembering correctly.
Transcoding times were cut by ~60% and that was a big increase... I remember that very clearly!
Really need a mid range GPU aswell in the testing.
For what? You can just look at GPU benchmarks for that.
I have 2600X and it works very well with 3200 CL 14 RAM. Timing matters on ryzen 2000s CPU.
Ok, I have Ryzen 2600 and GTX 1060 6Gb. What is the max Gpu I can have? P.s. I'm on the B450 platform.
This and a320m is only $80 these days
Shud be good for rx6600 and 1080p100 monitor
I wonder what would we see with AMD Gpu
set those modules to 3200mhz CL14 and watch the magic.
It was funny how back in 2017 AMD fanboys were expecting some miracle bios update that would boost cpu gaming performance. Also the poor Adored fanboys who believed in his snake oil - *720p benchmarks don't show the true future performance BS*.
On most older CPUs the scheduling overhead from the RTX 4090 is a major burden. So for this test you'd get better results from an AMD GPU. Then there's the PCIE 3 vs 4 issue.
Why do you use 3600 Mhz of RAm ?. It only support up to 2933 Mhz
Wrong samples for comparison. Just my 2 cents. IRL, AM4 owners have many other choices
still getting 60fps on AAA titles so don't really care to upgrade
cyberpunk can get 60fps with fsr
5 2600
Powercolor 6600xt
B450itx/ac
My build is upgrade ready, but not now amd still cooking
Nvidia has been known to introduce high overhead performance hits to lower tier Ryzen CPUs. They get better fps on AMD GPUs.
Great content! But why is the 7600 performance so lackluster in cyberbunk? 102 avg fps with a 4090 gpu at 1080p resolution is embarrassing? Something wrong right?
Even on Ultra 2600 is playable but ultra and RT kills CPU's even newest one.Lowering shadows and numbers of backround characters would skyrocket these results.And 2600 is not new gen it is ZEN 1+ like Piledriver was compared to Bulldozer.
Damn. i should upgrade my r7 2700. cheaper than buying new gpu for now.
I got a ryzen 5 2600 For free becose my was upgradeing. That hapend to day. Idk what to to whid it becose i alredy haw a i5 13600kf and a ryzen 5 3600 in my pc's
why yall dont pair these cpu with a more newer entry level gpu than these top tier gpu
Sitting with a 3600 and a NVIDIA GTX 1660 I got here in Australia just before the COVID really hit in 2020 - time for an upgrade now it's been four years and with Windows 10 support ending in 2025 - chose AM5 and a Ryzen 9 7950X plus a Radeon 7900XTX now I have more disposable income. Not a gamer but more into design and 3d. The 3600 is going to be re-purposed as lounge media PC with a different case.
2600 vs 4090 is like an adult vs a child hahahahaha, massive bottleneck.
Very nice video.
Lga775> zen1/2.. CPUz tells it all. 360+
First. What did I win?
How about a really nice paperclip
You get to keep your virginity for another year.
My 2600 paired with an rtx 3060 12gb started showing its age in modern titles like horizon forbidden west, alan wake 2, avatar pandora so i went for a quick update without breaking the bank i bought 5700x for $200 because moving to am5 was costing me 460+$ 😭