The analysis of Relay Soul being "this is such an anime card" was hilarious because it WAS actually used in the anime by Yugi against the big bad of the 4th season. Both players end up the duel with a monster that once removed they'd lose the duel and an infinite atk monster
Pharao: "I played the Thiefshipping card! With it I can do all manners of gamebreaking nonsense with the only condition being that I canonize thief shipping. So it's canon now. Just look at them trying to hold hands!"
Yeah I was thinking that. It’s definitely not a “staple” especially not in the current meta but calling it a stinker is a stretch for sure as It has been a key card in several stun strategies over the years. It’s a card that is far from a staple but has a definite home in the strategies that want it and it’s arguably the best at what it does despite it being a super niche card. Weird include imo
Not really? Impermanence, Droplets, Chalice, Book of Moon, Raigeki, and so on... The outs to it are numerous. It isn't 'over' when Fossil Dyna Pachycephalo hits the field. Some of these outs are easily fit into most decks even without siding.
Dyna isn't good by itself, it's only good with support as it's low stats for a normal summon means that any deck with a 1300 normal summon can just clear this thing unless you can increase it's stats or give it protection or cover it with powerful trap cards. Also if it's face-down, it's probably being removed before the battle phase, making that part of the card straight cope at most. And this cards does literally nothing against Floowandereeze and dies to any spell/trap based removal. Which makes it not a staple, because the card isn't good by itself
With the easy drop level, it will rarely survive the turn. The opponent would have to hit below 1300 for it to affect the player of the card. I just don't know if the effect lasts beyond the turn. It says it could be permanent.
I loved his thought process throughout but especially during appointer. From instantly thinking it's bad to pretty much theorycrafting all the reasons it actually is so good. Also the Relay Soul analysis was spot on.
I somewhat expected there to be a card that hit everybody for 10k damage. Being unable to die to damage even for a moment would be a win condition in a bunch of different card games. Using it for value is a foolish idea but I was expecting something dealing arbitrary amounts of damage to everybody in one of these books you call cards. PS1: I know that a two card win condition is not as unusual in Yu Gi Oh compared to other games and the trap not being in any tribe makes it rough to find but I did not expect it to be entirely dead. PS2: What happened to flip effects? In my day the Fossil would have been templated as a flip.
@@xXMGVXxfirst off this 10k damage thing isn't a card Second flip monsters still get printed, but fossil dyna isn't one which means it can't be searched by certain subterror/tindangle cards.
@@johnnickfanaccount3492 1 D.D. Dynamite would like to have a word with you. And that one has been power crept for 20 years. 2 My main critic is that it is just making things complicated for no good reason. I have seen cards searching for things described over three lines. Why did the readability of the dinosaur have to suffer for other cards not specifying their targets correctly? Had this beef with the flip tag on monsters since Guardian Sphinx. And Guardian sphinx at least had some functional differences to a regular flip monster while the dino really is just a flip monster without the tag.
@@xXMGVXx dd dynamight? That card is garbage and has never seen play in a real format 2. It really isn't a big deal. It just makes it so he can't be searched by like spirit of the fall wind because he isn't a flip. "When this card is flipped face up" vs "FLIP" mean the exact same thing and anyone can see that
@@jayharv285 It just feels like the format more or less ignores that the cards aren't necessarily bad cards but, simply don't fit in the majority of tournament decks.
@@jayharv285 That's not what people usually mean by "stinker" though. Yugioh is filled with cards that have literally never been playable, those are stinkers. The point of the video is supposed to be non-players trying to use their knowledge of other games to guess what's important in a game they don't play, not randomly guessing what's been power crept out of the current meta, that's a coin flip.
The better way to go about it is to just not pick borderline cards in the first place. If a card was amazing 10-15 years ago, but hasn't been remotely good for the past dozen formats, or if it's an important card for whatever lower-tier/rogue decks can run it at all, then there isn't a clear answer either way and so doesn't belong on the show.
Yeah my inirial reaction to E-Con was yeah its a fine card but we just have better options aka triple tac talents or even change of heart tbh. So i would probably never (or very rarely) run this in a deck.
The fun part is that the answer is hard to get for the contestant, who knows little to nothing about the game, but obvious to anyone who plays the game. If there is no "right" answer in the first place, that most any player would readily agree with, then the contestant didn't cleverly figure it out or comically misunderstand the card, they just won/lost a coin flip against the arbitrary decision made by whoever prepared the answers. Some viewers might also be in the same boat as the contestant, and so can play along with them, but that only works if they know just as little about the game in question. That's its own sort of fun, but is still a better experience if they are playing with "fair" questions.
And Stun/Anti-Meta/Anti-Fun decks aren't good by definition. The one stall/stun deck that managed to do anything in recent memory was Mystic Mine Stall, which mustn't summon monsters to work properly
This is probably playable in a Ninja deck as it can easily flip cards up and down. You could just have it face up when needing a floodgate or removal, then flipping it face down when you need to summon.
@@newfaces_v2 Say that to Master Duel players who always surrendered or rage quit because i prevented them from activating monster effects with Inspector Boarder and they couldn't Special Summon with my Fossil Dyna equipped with Moon Mirror Shield,lol
Enemy controller isn't very useful in the meta, but used to be. The same is true for Pachy. Why is one a "stinker" and the other a staple? No one would play either in the current meta but both have had their time in the spotlight as staples.
I was thinking the same thing. At the moment enemy controller is not a staple. I haven't played Yugioh in a few months, so I thought enemy controller made a comeback.
This was a great episode. He was very charming, fun, respectful of the game, and best of all put some real thought into translating card game logic. All around great episode guys, this series continues to be great.
You would think that but Crim is actually a horrible person. He is the kind of guy who would play Mystic Mine Burn and have the fun of is life ^^ (please don't taken this serious)
@@felicen93 so. the definition of a staple is splashable techs that can be used in a wide variety of decks. in that sense cards like droplet are also a tech.
Appointer of the Red Lotus was bad at first because it came out during a time when duels lasted 4+ turns. Now it’s broken because most decks can end the duel by turn 2 or 3.
I noticed that the Magic players tend to do well on analyzing spells or traps, but stumble on monsters. Spells in the two games are translatable, but the monsters are pretty much another language of indecipherable jibberish, with a bunch of stars and giant numbers and 30 types of Fusion/Tuner/Synchro/Omega/Jedi whatever whatever. How can you possibly know if a random monster is good without knowing any of what that does
Great point, MTG has such consistent and specific vocabulary for creature abilities, whereas relevant yugioh monsters warp/change the rules of the current game with their text and abilities
I think he misunderstood the first card. I believe that even though he said it was bad, he thought it was better than it really is. You don't get to see the whole hand. You pick a single random card and see that
@@Pseudoscorpion14 That's also because of the prevalence of cards like Thoughtseize, Duress, Dreams of Steel and Oil, etc. of varying qualities that let you look at the whole hand and mess with it in a meaningful way. All of these are probably better than Appointer of the Red Lotus even. On the other end of a MTG equivalent of The Inexperienced Spy there's Urza's Bauble, which lets you look at a random card in your opponent's hand. But that one is actually quite decent, because it's 0 mana and lets you draw a card at the start of your next turn.
@@Felixr2 the reason that card/gitaxian probe is good though is because we have a lot of cards that care about the size/card types of the graveyard/the existence of storm. I'm guessing yugioh probably has something similar though that cares about spells cast previously
Crim is such a staple in magic content that is always entertaining. Fun to see him do a crossover with this excellent host, she's superquick and to the point. Great content!
"Kuriboh of the Six Samurai" reference caught me off guard. The host did a great job, need more of these staple or stinker episodes. (sorry I'm bad at remembering names. most of my brain space is occupied with damage step rulings)
With that kuriboh of the six samurai reference, i think we need a sequel to the ai generated cards. imagine what a full extra deck, with synchros, xyz and links would look like, or some kind of crazy stupid ai engine, would be hilarious to see.
15:20 ironically enough this card was used by Yugi. It was his counterpart to the villain having a huge boss monster that also prevented him from losing as long as it was on the field.
"Someone wins the game instantly with one card? I've never seen that before!" "Well, there's this one card that lets you win in twelve turns..." Exodia: "Am I a joke to you?"
Enemy Controller is definitely a staple, comments are nuts, card has found a home in just about every format. Fossil Dyna being on the list at all is kinda weird, it definitely used to be a staple for a LONG time, and it could still see play today, but nobody decides to use it.
It doesn't see play because the card isn't good. It requires unsearchable bad combos like Dyna+Moon Mirror to even function and even then still loses to removal. Even in Floo which had consistent access to a similar lock with the barrier statue still had to play protect the castle with Mega Raiza because 99% of normal summonable monsters out the floodgate.
enemy controller is good but not good enough, you go -1 to steal soemthing but more often then not its not even something you can make use of and even in the argument of using it for a link summon; you could’ve just use the monster you tribute for enemy controller for the link summon instead the best case scenario is to either use it in a final game winning push to remove the opponent’s crucial line of defense but at that point you already winning making it just a “win-more” card or to deprive the opponent of an immediate resource on their turn but they’ll just get it back in the end unless you have something that can utilize it in a way to remove it from the field even the battle position shift is also a niche effect because the opponent can still use the monster’s effects or as material to summon something else so most of the time if youre using such an effect you probably in a losing situation and only delaying the inevitable sure there will be some scenarios where this card is god but that can be said for practically every card
@@YukiFubuki. the card has literally been in topping Kash and Spright lists for the past several months. The card is insanely good especially in Kash as it also removes whatever nonsense the opponent puts on your board like iblee or a token.
@YukiFubuki. Kashtira is notorious for being fairly vulnerable to the likes of Iblee or back when Mystic Mine was a thing Silent Wobby/D.D. guide which would neuter the decks ability to play. Enemy controller alleviates that problem. Also other decks especially the likes of Floowandereeze can use it as a way to dodge cards that are targeting their monsters with effects like veiler/imperm while getting an opponents,monster back In return.
@@amethonys2798 every card can have their moments in the right scenario, just because its amazing in certain decks that cna make great use of it doesnt make it universal
For Relay Soul I was hoping Crim would bring up something like Demonic Pact in Magic. Demonic Pact lets you do 1 of 4 things andyou can choose each option only once. 3 of them are good and the 4th is "You lose the game". There's a strategy where you do the 3 good ones and then give your opponent the demonic pact so they have to choose to lose the game. As a non-YGO player who came here for Crim, I was hoping that there might be a way to give your opponent your creature you special summoned from Relay Soul and then kill it, winning you the duel.
I don't think that would even work, even when applying MTG rules logic. It doesn't give the 'when this monster leaves play, your opponent wins the duel' effect to the monster, it's created as a separate entity. Because this effect was *created* by an effect you activated, the 'you' will always refer to you, even if you no longer control the monster the effect refers to.
To make it work using MtG logic, you would have to 'donate' Relay Soul to your opponent instead of the monster. Why? Because the effect is not appended to said monster but rather a static effect created by Relay Soul itself. However, while I dont have much knowledge about ygo, I do know that some spells and traps stick on board after they activated but I dont think Relay Soul is one of them. Then in that case you need something that steal/swap spell controller as it was cast i.e. Perplexing Chimera -ish card which I dont think exist in ygo.
7:52 Average player: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Experts: This destroys it, this one banishes it, this one send it to your hand, this one sends it to the deck. 10:58 Interesting enough, if this was released back in the original format, it would have been too slow. It would have been going 1 mph in a 5 mph speed zone. "I pay 2000 life points to banish that high attack monster for one turn." "Okay. Now I summon this high attack monster."
I'd like to see full explanations of how these cards have been used and how effective they have been. For example, Fossil Dyna is being currently used to smash through Master Duel's current ladder, whereas in the TCG, it hasn't seen play in a good while. In the case of Enemy Controller, the use cases should be defined on how it can be superior to Change of Heart (such as tributing a problematic card that was given to you). And Appointer should have some context around it such as the usual turn count for games or example situations like setting up an unbreakable board and promptly removing said board breakers.
Fossil Dyna is very good in a BO1 format such as Master Duel because it becomes very much you have to draw the out to it, as well as the out to the backrow the opponent likely has to support it. Enemy controller is just immense as you can use it to tribute monsters to dodge targeting effects such as veiler/imperm while getting your opponents monster back in return as well as remove locking cards such as Iblee/Gimmick Puppet from your side of the field.
@@superbr0ws015 I haven't seen Fossil Dyna Pachycephalo at all on Master Duel ladder... Saying it's very good is overestimating it. It is uncommon and the decks playing it aren't good in Master Duel either.
@@fajarwinmoneyecon only seems to be good in certain decks/scenarios in tcg havnt seen this popped up at all in ocg either, some people tunnel visioning extremely hard
Magic actually has a card that's "You lose the game" (maybe even multiple). The old Lich card was a monster that as long as it was on the field, you couldn't lose. But once it got removed, you instantly lose the game. Yeah, wording it as "Your opponent wins" is a bit weird, but the effect exists in multiple games afaik.
There are a lot of cards in magic with "you lose the game", "you win the game" and "player loses the game". Phage the Untouchable, Door to Nothingness, Maze's End, every card with "pact", Chance for Glory, Last Chance and a lot more.
Nothing to do with the vid but I really fw this guy’s whole look and personality. Very excitable but also seems super chill. Definitely wouldn’t mind seeing more of him
The irony of calling it a villain card, when Atem used it. The anime version was different. It could only be used when your Life Points hit 0, and it made it so you cannot lose, until the Monster it Summoned leaves the Field.
- Fossil dyna is a staple for stundecks, - Appointer of the red lotus was not a staple for most decks as it is bad going second and it was mainly used by decks that specifically had ways to set the card from grave/deck.
Red lotus was absolutely a side deck staple, if you flip it going first the game is decided from that point because you have 100% knowledge of the gamestate
@@Shemegory A card being very strong in some side decks does not qualify it the label: "Staple". - Only for going first so typically at most 1 game every match can it be in your deck - It is only good when you draw it in opening hand, you don't want to see it on turn 3. - It is a non-engine, harddraw trap that doesn't advance your own gamestate, for which there are alternatives that can hit specific meta harder. - There are only 15 sidedeck cards of which against most meta's you can side something more destructive. (and you don't want to overside as that will lead to brickhands). Don't get me wrong; The card is busted, but very specifically for siding going first in a deck that makes about 3-4 negates on the field consistently, or worse when smoke grenade was legal to go for 3+ discard.
Fossil Dyna Pachycephalo can actually be easily searched with Gallant Granite. With modern archetypes that don't rely on Normal Summons, it's not hard to build your board, search Fossil Dyna, and normal summon it. This makes a really good floodgate because most board breakers need to out-resource their opponents' negates by using their combos. If they have to get over Fossil Dyna first (like Normal Summoning a beat stick and attacking it, it foils their play and they might not survive the next turn. Fossil Dyna is not a stinker.
Barrier statue of the everything but for rock decks. Terrifying. If Adamancipators weren't hit so hard on the banlist it would absolutely be running amok. No way it should have been called a stinker
One advice I could give the channel is to put the cost of the cards AFTER it's revealed weather It's a staple or stinker.... otherwise it kinda spoils it because stinkers are dirt cheap
suddenly contemplating adding some dyna patchys to my red eyes deck because of how often I have the option to open with red-eyes fusion which stops you from doing any other kind of normal or special summoning the entire turn, but does not stop you from setting a monster facedown. it may destroy my own fusion when they attack it, but if they're willing to play offensively then chances are they're gonna beat over a red eyes fusion anyway
@@CardmarketYGO I was also slightly surprised by its rating at first because I don't follow the game closely atm, but then I took 10 minutes to look up recent tournament decks and yeah, it sure gets played. Pachy is a fan-favourite and the face of stun for a long time so it makes sense people would disagree with that one. I think comments are taking the title "Staple or Stinker" way too literally. For me it's just "is this good or bad?" or simply rating cards. I admire your patience, guys.
A couple things. Enemy Controller may still be playable, but it’s not exactly a staple in standard play (not anymore anyway). Fossil Dyna may not be a staple in a generic sense, but it’s definitely better than Enemy Controller and a pretty key card in viable stun decks. That’s all.
I think this episode had some poor choices, pachycephalo is conditionally op or terrible depending on the situation so its neither a staple or a stinker, also Econ is a pretty below average card in the tcg and is definitely closer to stinker than staple as it has only seen play in a few decks to dodge targeting effs
To give some extra perspective on relay soul, the link 4 monster saryuja skull dread literally has the effect: special summon one monster from your hand, with the only requirement being that you used at least 3 monsters for its summon. its also once per turn...
I'm sure this has been mentioned already, but Relay Soul actually has an interesting ruling regarding Xyz Monsters. If the monster summoned by Relay Soul is used as Xyz Material, it isn't counted as leaving the field, so the effect of allowing the opponent to win upon leaving the field can't be applied. It's definitely not a staple by any means, but it can be a pretty cheeky tech in an Xyz-focused deck.
Honestly I’d say he was correct about fossil cuz it does still see play and was a staple but I still agree with all they said about it. Could go either way
I’ve noticed that magic players (like me) read these cards like they’re reading them in pioneer, modern, or standard. When in reality, YuGiOh is essentially strictly vintage and every deck and their staples are geared towards winning as quickly and efficiently as possible. Which, I might add, is also true for the above mentioned formats in MTG. HOWEVER, YuGiOh doesn’t rotate, and doesn’t require mana. I.e. these cards need to be read as though we were analyzing cards through the lens of vintage/legacy. YuGiOh decks are simply a collection of the best, most efficient, and (possibly) flexible possible cards EVER printed for whatever strategy that deck may be going for. Now, of course, I don’t play YuGiOh so take this with a grain of salt, but using this thought process to analyze any given YuGiOh card has worked for me personally.
i live in california, and googled "what time is it in germany" when crim said his sleep schedule was terrible. coincidentally, it was 8 am. it is currently 11 pm/23:00 in california. what the fuck crim
Relay soul works really well as an anime hero and anime villian card to save themselves for a plot moment of signture monster cards saving the day for a dramtic showdown.
While I agree that Fossil Dyna is a stinker I don't agree with the reasoning behin it. You don't play that card for its flipp effect but for the "neather player con special summon". The card is not to slow, the reason this card dosn't see play is because it is not searchable and that it affects you too.
6:00 fossil dyna pachycephalo is pronounced (pack-ee-seff-ah-low) the 'ch' is the same from 'character, school, chronicle'. most people who know how to pronounce the word may try to pronounce the 'ch' as if it was from 'chain, chore, child', they are wrong.
I've always thought that relay soul had some crazy potential, but it would take such a crazy specific situation to be any good. Does flipping a monster face-down count as "removing from the field"? If not, then any deck that can flip there own monsters could _maybe_ make relatively safe use of relay soul.
flipping it face down won’t count as leaving the field because it is still on field so no dice the no dmg part of the effect also only applies when the monster is face up too which when it face down will turn this effect off
I understand why you would think this, but honestly, if you want to spend a card to summon any one maindeck monster, there's many ways to do so without risking losing, and if you're trying to avoid all damage, well you only usually need one more turn to win or your opponent likely will, so Waboku would do the job way better, since it will also protect your monsters from battle that turn, and not give you a chance to lose to any removal. I appreciate you trying to make it good though, we always need people like you.
Fossil Dyna was poorly explained, the destruction and floodgate are two different effects and the floodgate does NOT require you to flip it face up first. Also, I'm pretty sure the first effect wouldn't activate if flipped during the damage step, because it is not a FLIP effect proper, but damage step rulings are a mess so maybe I'm wrong. The second effect makes Fossil Dyna a staple in any dedicated stun strategy, so I think he actually got every cards right.
I was under the impression that econ sees no play in the current meta but I guess I was wrong reading all the comments about Kashtira. I still think Fossil Dyna is better in general though.
I mean like Dyno pachy is kinda that card you build around rather than a staple, like yeah it's too slow but if you want to slow down someone with 30 floodgate well pachy is your best bet along side border and other funny purple card.
4:14 hes refuring to ultimate creature of destruction its a trap that makes blue eyes unaffected. i would argue e-con is very neish, personally we need a "meh" or neash option espechly for the annoying floodgate dyna
isnt fossils second sentence a permanent effect, let lose from the flip? its a new sentence with no direct connection to the first one, no "adn than" "afterwards" and it also doesnt read "until end of turn so its permanent as long as this remains face up. so you basicly play this when ever you go first as a face up and deny any combo stuff.
Performapal kuriboh was in the first pack I opened in master duel and has saved me in so many games that it's one of the first cards in any deck I make now. Lol
the reasoning behind dyna was bad I think. The card is a staple and in fact broken, the effect is amazing simply it's not played because currently there is no deck that can utilize it or turbo into. There's gallant granite that could search it, and it would obliterate a kashtira matchup for example. Simply the meta is currently decks with their own archetpye, and they are not really open for outer archetype techs, but this doesn't make this card a stinker. Droplet is awful this format for example and still stays aroun 30 bucks a piece because it's an amazing card still, just like dyna holds up because stopping special summoning is broken.
I see a lot of comments about this. Enemy Controller is a pretty decent card that hasn't seen play for a while. But as of last year, its popularity has exploded thanks to Spright and Kashtira. On top of that it's also used in other decks to steal XYZ monsters in the battle phase to then make Zeus in main phase two. - Adam
There's very, very, VERY good odds it just gets removed before ever seeing the chance. You're DEAD if your opponent does pull it off, but very good chance you just wasted your normal summon and are now yourself dead
Crim killed it. Glad to see him not doing only rounds for Cardmarket MTG, but also Cardmarket YGO. Pachy was a real rough one to evaluate. Can kind of think of it as a containment priest? But what it stops is even more ubiquitous than creatures etb'ing without being cast. So many cards really take their power from the speed of the game, which is why Appointer, which looks like a temporary thoughtsieze that costs 5 life to cast, is so incredibly strong, in such a fast format and game. Overall, still, awesome stuff Crim!
OMG I actually had an OG Delinquent Duo (got it in the bonus packs with my Jinzo box), not sure if I still have it or not. Never liked it then, but I thought Bark of Dark Ruler was a busted card (funny, I was also the only person in my playgroup of quite a few people to kneejerk jump on a Solemn Judgement, couldn't believe they printed something like that when I heard what it did, I had to have it!).
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The analysis of Relay Soul being "this is such an anime card" was hilarious because it WAS actually used in the anime by Yugi against the big bad of the 4th season. Both players end up the duel with a monster that once removed they'd lose the duel and an infinite atk monster
Common Geh W
And there was a 2nd time that relay soul was used, in a live duel with the voice actors for Yugi and Astral in 2014 at a NAWCS
He also said it’s good because it’s a trap so he was right for the wrong reasons.
Then by the power of anime plot armor, YuGi proceeded to get a massive W
Pharao: "I played the Thiefshipping card! With it I can do all manners of gamebreaking nonsense with the only condition being that I canonize thief shipping. So it's canon now. Just look at them trying to hold hands!"
Dyno pachy should not be included. That thing is so good and bad at the same time.
If it hits the field it is over.
Yeah I was thinking that. It’s definitely not a “staple” especially not in the current meta but calling it a stinker is a stretch for sure as It has been a key card in several stun strategies over the years. It’s a card that is far from a staple but has a definite home in the strategies that want it and it’s arguably the best at what it does despite it being a super niche card. Weird include imo
Not really? Impermanence, Droplets, Chalice, Book of Moon, Raigeki, and so on... The outs to it are numerous. It isn't 'over' when Fossil Dyna Pachycephalo hits the field. Some of these outs are easily fit into most decks even without siding.
It is neither a stinker nor a staple. It is a good card in a stun strategy, but not generically good. Bad inclusion.
Dyna isn't good by itself, it's only good with support as it's low stats for a normal summon means that any deck with a 1300 normal summon can just clear this thing unless you can increase it's stats or give it protection or cover it with powerful trap cards.
Also if it's face-down, it's probably being removed before the battle phase, making that part of the card straight cope at most.
And this cards does literally nothing against Floowandereeze and dies to any spell/trap based removal. Which makes it not a staple, because the card isn't good by itself
With the easy drop level, it will rarely survive the turn. The opponent would have to hit below 1300 for it to affect the player of the card. I just don't know if the effect lasts beyond the turn. It says it could be permanent.
I loved his thought process throughout but especially during appointer. From instantly thinking it's bad to pretty much theorycrafting all the reasons it actually is so good. Also the Relay Soul analysis was spot on.
I somewhat expected there to be a card that hit everybody for 10k damage. Being unable to die to damage even for a moment would be a win condition in a bunch of different card games. Using it for value is a foolish idea but I was expecting something dealing arbitrary amounts of damage to everybody in one of these books you call cards.
PS1: I know that a two card win condition is not as unusual in Yu Gi Oh compared to other games and the trap not being in any tribe makes it rough to find but I did not expect it to be entirely dead.
PS2: What happened to flip effects? In my day the Fossil would have been templated as a flip.
@@xXMGVXxfirst off this 10k damage thing isn't a card
Second flip monsters still get printed, but fossil dyna isn't one which means it can't be searched by certain subterror/tindangle cards.
@@johnnickfanaccount3492 1 D.D. Dynamite would like to have a word with you. And that one has been power crept for 20 years.
2 My main critic is that it is just making things complicated for no good reason. I have seen cards searching for things described over three lines. Why did the readability of the dinosaur have to suffer for other cards not specifying their targets correctly? Had this beef with the flip tag on monsters since Guardian Sphinx. And Guardian sphinx at least had some functional differences to a regular flip monster while the dino really is just a flip monster without the tag.
@@xXMGVXx dd dynamight? That card is garbage and has never seen play in a real format
2. It really isn't a big deal. It just makes it so he can't be searched by like spirit of the fall wind because he isn't a flip. "When this card is flipped face up" vs "FLIP" mean the exact same thing and anyone can see that
I feel like it’s unfair to list dyna as a stinker, it spent so much of its life as a staple.
That's the thing though. It was a staple for a long while but now? It's a stinker
@@jayharv285 It just feels like the format more or less ignores that the cards aren't necessarily bad cards but, simply don't fit in the majority of tournament decks.
@@TGPDrunknHick that's why they're a stinker. It's a good card in usual cases. But for most formats it isn't very good
Same for E-Con, definitely a stinker nowadays??
@@jayharv285 That's not what people usually mean by "stinker" though. Yugioh is filled with cards that have literally never been playable, those are stinkers. The point of the video is supposed to be non-players trying to use their knowledge of other games to guess what's important in a game they don't play, not randomly guessing what's been power crept out of the current meta, that's a coin flip.
You need a 3rd option for "tech/niche" for Dyna and E-Con. Most TCG players wouldn't even give the "right" answer for these.
I was running econ in karakuri for the longest time until i switched to Shrink and Lance
The better way to go about it is to just not pick borderline cards in the first place. If a card was amazing 10-15 years ago, but hasn't been remotely good for the past dozen formats, or if it's an important card for whatever lower-tier/rogue decks can run it at all, then there isn't a clear answer either way and so doesn't belong on the show.
Yeah my inirial reaction to E-Con was yeah its a fine card but we just have better options aka triple tac talents or even change of heart tbh. So i would probably never (or very rarely) run this in a deck.
I think that's part of the fun of these videos, they do similar things when they do their MTG quizzes.
The fun part is that the answer is hard to get for the contestant, who knows little to nothing about the game, but obvious to anyone who plays the game. If there is no "right" answer in the first place, that most any player would readily agree with, then the contestant didn't cleverly figure it out or comically misunderstand the card, they just won/lost a coin flip against the arbitrary decision made by whoever prepared the answers.
Some viewers might also be in the same boat as the contestant, and so can play along with them, but that only works if they know just as little about the game in question. That's its own sort of fun, but is still a better experience if they are playing with "fair" questions.
Fossil Dyna might not be good card for current meta,but in Anti-meta decks and stun decks,this card is must-have staple.
And Stun/Anti-Meta/Anti-Fun decks aren't good by definition. The one stall/stun deck that managed to do anything in recent memory was Mystic Mine Stall, which mustn't summon monsters to work properly
It's only playable in MD where it's best of 1
This is probably playable in a Ninja deck as it can easily flip cards up and down. You could just have it face up when needing a floodgate or removal, then flipping it face down when you need to summon.
@@newfaces_v2 Say that to Master Duel players who always surrendered or rage quit because i prevented them from activating monster effects with Inspector Boarder and they couldn't Special Summon with my Fossil Dyna equipped with Moon Mirror Shield,lol
@@WaifuMaster17You realize Master Duel isn't the tcg right? Like we play best of 3s here in real life yugioh.
Enemy controller isn't very useful in the meta, but used to be. The same is true for Pachy.
Why is one a "stinker" and the other a staple? No one would play either in the current meta but both have had their time in the spotlight as staples.
I was thinking the same thing.
At the moment enemy controller is not a staple. I haven't played Yugioh in a few months, so I thought enemy controller made a comeback.
Now, none of these are staples.
one of these days we have to put a Pendulum card on here
Just introduce them to Nirvana High Paladin.
Odd Eyes Pendulum Dragon
Mighty master endymion jumpscare
@@sorbet6465ah yes, the cause of the climate apocalypse
Arch fiend eccentrick
god i wish cardmarket would do this format regularly, its the best one
They do it pretty often. Although I think the Magic channel does it a lot more.
This was a great episode. He was very charming, fun, respectful of the game, and best of all put some real thought into translating card game logic. All around great episode guys, this series continues to be great.
You would think that but Crim is actually a horrible person. He is the kind of guy who would play Mystic Mine Burn and have the fun of is life ^^ (please don't taken this serious)
Crim is a delightful guy, but his taste in magic decks is atrocious for sure! :D
Hehe, based on those comments I get the feeling if he were to pick up the game he'd be playing Kashtira right now with a rather wicked grin.
@@CaptainMarvel4Ever You would be 100% correct : )
You guys are bringing magic and Yugioh players together! I love it! As a magic fan, seeing these videos has peaked my interest in Yugioh.
Can confirm the title: Crim is, in fact, a rockstar
People saying Enemy Controller not being a staple card have not seen Spright and Kashtira lists in the last half year lmao
I would say it's more of a tech card than a staple
@@felicen93 so. the definition of a staple is splashable techs that can be used in a wide variety of decks. in that sense cards like droplet are also a tech.
also obligitory it was so good in duel links it's bounced around the limited list as limit 3,2,and 1 since about the games release in 2017
It's purely a tcg thing I've never seen that card in any ocg list or master duel
And that is because tcg players think it's so good to steal a monster to the point mind control is even limited
Appointer of the Red Lotus was bad at first because it came out during a time when duels lasted 4+ turns. Now it’s broken because most decks can end the duel by turn 2 or 3.
if your deck can't OTK or prevent your opponent from playing the game then its a bad deck tho
I noticed that the Magic players tend to do well on analyzing spells or traps, but stumble on monsters. Spells in the two games are translatable, but the monsters are pretty much another language of indecipherable jibberish, with a bunch of stars and giant numbers and 30 types of Fusion/Tuner/Synchro/Omega/Jedi whatever whatever. How can you possibly know if a random monster is good without knowing any of what that does
Yeah I have been binging these and creatures seem to confuse everyone in both games
Great point, MTG has such consistent and specific vocabulary for creature abilities, whereas relevant yugioh monsters warp/change the rules of the current game with their text and abilities
I think he misunderstood the first card. I believe that even though he said it was bad, he thought it was better than it really is. You don't get to see the whole hand. You pick a single random card and see that
The equivalent card in Magic is the whole hand and it's still stone-cold unplayable.
@@Pseudoscorpion14 That's also because of the prevalence of cards like Thoughtseize, Duress, Dreams of Steel and Oil, etc. of varying qualities that let you look at the whole hand and mess with it in a meaningful way. All of these are probably better than Appointer of the Red Lotus even.
On the other end of a MTG equivalent of The Inexperienced Spy there's Urza's Bauble, which lets you look at a random card in your opponent's hand. But that one is actually quite decent, because it's 0 mana and lets you draw a card at the start of your next turn.
@@Felixr2 the reason that card/gitaxian probe is good though is because we have a lot of cards that care about the size/card types of the graveyard/the existence of storm. I'm guessing yugioh probably has something similar though that cares about spells cast previously
Crim is such a staple in magic content that is always entertaining. Fun to see him do a crossover with this excellent host, she's superquick and to the point. Great content!
"Kuriboh of the Six Samurai" reference caught me off guard.
The host did a great job, need more of these staple or stinker episodes.
(sorry I'm bad at remembering names. most of my brain space is occupied with damage step rulings)
With that kuriboh of the six samurai reference, i think we need a sequel to the ai generated cards. imagine what a full extra deck, with synchros, xyz and links would look like, or some kind of crazy stupid ai engine, would be hilarious to see.
15:20 ironically enough this card was used by Yugi. It was his counterpart to the villain having a huge boss monster that also prevented him from losing as long as it was on the field.
fossil Dyna is NOT a stinker at all. It’s literally one of the best generic normal summons in yugioh. One of the best stun card monsters of all time
Love this series keep it up. would love to see more guests, even video calls when people aren't able to travel to germany would be great
Yes please, the format is too good to be limited by the guests' ability to travel for an in-person recording
A Collab with the dudes from game knights would be sick!!! Also post Malone to really put his card theory to the test 😂🤣
"Someone wins the game instantly with one card? I've never seen that before!"
"Well, there's this one card that lets you win in twelve turns..."
Exodia: "Am I a joke to you?"
exodia is very specifically not one card
Enemy Controller is definitely a staple, comments are nuts, card has found a home in just about every format. Fossil Dyna being on the list at all is kinda weird, it definitely used to be a staple for a LONG time, and it could still see play today, but nobody decides to use it.
It doesn't see play because the card isn't good. It requires unsearchable bad combos like Dyna+Moon Mirror to even function and even then still loses to removal.
Even in Floo which had consistent access to a similar lock with the barrier statue still had to play protect the castle with Mega Raiza because 99% of normal summonable monsters out the floodgate.
enemy controller is good but not good enough, you go -1 to steal soemthing but more often then not its not even something you can make use of and even in the argument of using it for a link summon; you could’ve just use the monster you tribute for enemy controller for the link summon instead
the best case scenario is to either use it in a final game winning push to remove the opponent’s crucial line of defense but at that point you already winning making it just a “win-more” card or to deprive the opponent of an immediate resource on their turn but they’ll just get it back in the end unless you have something that can utilize it in a way to remove it from the field
even the battle position shift is also a niche effect because the opponent can still use the monster’s effects or as material to summon something else so most of the time if youre using such an effect you probably in a losing situation and only delaying the inevitable
sure there will be some scenarios where this card is god but that can be said for practically every card
@@YukiFubuki. the card has literally been in topping Kash and Spright lists for the past several months. The card is insanely good especially in Kash as it also removes whatever nonsense the opponent puts on your board like iblee or a token.
@YukiFubuki. Kashtira is notorious for being fairly vulnerable to the likes of Iblee or back when Mystic Mine was a thing Silent Wobby/D.D. guide which would neuter the decks ability to play. Enemy controller alleviates that problem. Also other decks especially the likes of Floowandereeze can use it as a way to dodge cards that are targeting their monsters with effects like veiler/imperm while getting an opponents,monster back In return.
@@amethonys2798 every card can have their moments in the right scenario, just because its amazing in certain decks that cna make great use of it doesnt make it universal
Crim the blue bomber! Great to see him commenting on Yugi!
Well ... Some people still play E-Con in side so you could start a war with that
For Relay Soul I was hoping Crim would bring up something like Demonic Pact in Magic. Demonic Pact lets you do 1 of 4 things andyou can choose each option only once. 3 of them are good and the 4th is "You lose the game". There's a strategy where you do the 3 good ones and then give your opponent the demonic pact so they have to choose to lose the game.
As a non-YGO player who came here for Crim, I was hoping that there might be a way to give your opponent your creature you special summoned from Relay Soul and then kill it, winning you the duel.
I don't think that would even work, even when applying MTG rules logic. It doesn't give the 'when this monster leaves play, your opponent wins the duel' effect to the monster, it's created as a separate entity. Because this effect was *created* by an effect you activated, the 'you' will always refer to you, even if you no longer control the monster the effect refers to.
To make it work using MtG logic, you would have to 'donate' Relay Soul to your opponent instead of the monster. Why? Because the effect is not appended to said monster but rather a static effect created by Relay Soul itself. However, while I dont have much knowledge about ygo, I do know that some spells and traps stick on board after they activated but I dont think Relay Soul is one of them. Then in that case you need something that steal/swap spell controller as it was cast i.e. Perplexing Chimera -ish card which I dont think exist in ygo.
7:52
Average player: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Experts: This destroys it, this one banishes it, this one send it to your hand, this one sends it to the deck.
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Interesting enough, if this was released back in the original format, it would have been too slow. It would have been going 1 mph in a 5 mph speed zone.
"I pay 2000 life points to banish that high attack monster for one turn."
"Okay. Now I summon this high attack monster."
Crim presented as a rockstar magic player seems so fitting that now I can’t understand why doesn’t he introduce himself as such 😂
I'd like to see full explanations of how these cards have been used and how effective they have been.
For example, Fossil Dyna is being currently used to smash through Master Duel's current ladder, whereas in the TCG, it hasn't seen play in a good while.
In the case of Enemy Controller, the use cases should be defined on how it can be superior to Change of Heart (such as tributing a problematic card that was given to you).
And Appointer should have some context around it such as the usual turn count for games or example situations like setting up an unbreakable board and promptly removing said board breakers.
Fossil Dyna is very good in a BO1 format such as Master Duel because it becomes very much you have to draw the out to it, as well as the out to the backrow the opponent likely has to support it.
Enemy controller is just immense as you can use it to tribute monsters to dodge targeting effects such as veiler/imperm while getting your opponents monster back in return as well as remove locking cards such as Iblee/Gimmick Puppet from your side of the field.
@@superbr0ws015 just like fossil dyna can good on MD and bad on TCG, e-con is good on TCG and bad on MD
@@superbr0ws015 I haven't seen Fossil Dyna Pachycephalo at all on Master Duel ladder... Saying it's very good is overestimating it. It is uncommon and the decks playing it aren't good in Master Duel either.
@@fajarwinmoneyecon only seems to be good in certain decks/scenarios in tcg
havnt seen this popped up at all in ocg either, some people tunnel visioning extremely hard
It always irks me when the host of one of these uses an old card that had historical tournament success, but has just fallen behind the power creep.
Magic actually has a card that's "You lose the game" (maybe even multiple). The old Lich card was a monster that as long as it was on the field, you couldn't lose. But once it got removed, you instantly lose the game.
Yeah, wording it as "Your opponent wins" is a bit weird, but the effect exists in multiple games afaik.
There are a lot of cards in magic with "you lose the game", "you win the game" and "player loses the game". Phage the Untouchable, Door to Nothingness, Maze's End, every card with "pact", Chance for Glory, Last Chance and a lot more.
@@rovidelarosa And then there's also the "you cannot lose and your opponent cannot win" effect found on the likes of Platinum Angel.
Multi-player is the reasoning for the different wordings. Your opponent wins wouldn't work in a multi-player format for example.
Nothing to do with the vid but I really fw this guy’s whole look and personality. Very excitable but also seems super chill. Definitely wouldn’t mind seeing more of him
The irony of calling it a villain card, when Atem used it.
The anime version was different. It could only be used when your Life Points hit 0, and it made it so you cannot lose, until the Monster it Summoned leaves the Field.
The funny part is Relay Soul was used in the anime by Yugi Muto himself
I’ve been waiting for another episode of this for months
- Fossil dyna is a staple for stundecks,
- Appointer of the red lotus was not a staple for most decks as it is bad going second and it was mainly used by decks that specifically had ways to set the card from grave/deck.
Red lotus was absolutely a side deck staple, if you flip it going first the game is decided from that point because you have 100% knowledge of the gamestate
@@Shemegory A card being very strong in some side decks does not qualify it the label: "Staple".
- Only for going first so typically at most 1 game every match can it be in your deck
- It is only good when you draw it in opening hand, you don't want to see it on turn 3.
- It is a non-engine, harddraw trap that doesn't advance your own gamestate, for which there are alternatives that can hit specific meta harder.
- There are only 15 sidedeck cards of which against most meta's you can side something more destructive. (and you don't want to overside as that will lead to brickhands).
Don't get me wrong; The card is busted, but very specifically for siding going first in a deck that makes about 3-4 negates on the field consistently, or worse when smoke grenade was legal to go for 3+ discard.
@@lmr4403Damn I guess EEV and triple talents are stinkers since they're not in every side deck.
@@Shemegory Bruh, you should learn the definition of staple. Cards can be great without them being staples.
@@Shemegory And to be clear EEV is not a staple as only a few decks can use it. TTT is a staple.
I play both games and this is like the perfect crossover! Thanks for this content!!
Fossil Dyna Pachycephalo can actually be easily searched with Gallant Granite. With modern archetypes that don't rely on Normal Summons, it's not hard to build your board, search Fossil Dyna, and normal summon it. This makes a really good floodgate because most board breakers need to out-resource their opponents' negates by using their combos. If they have to get over Fossil Dyna first (like Normal Summoning a beat stick and attacking it, it foils their play and they might not survive the next turn. Fossil Dyna is not a stinker.
Barrier statue of the everything but for rock decks. Terrifying. If Adamancipators weren't hit so hard on the banlist it would absolutely be running amok. No way it should have been called a stinker
One advice I could give the channel is to put the cost of the cards AFTER it's revealed weather It's a staple or stinker.... otherwise it kinda spoils it because stinkers are dirt cheap
you guys should do one with Rarren he has been encroaching on your format with hearthstone and i think it would be a dope collab :)
Fun video! Very well presented by both people!
Love this guy's energy
suddenly contemplating adding some dyna patchys to my red eyes deck because of how often I have the option to open with red-eyes fusion which stops you from doing any other kind of normal or special summoning the entire turn, but does not stop you from setting a monster facedown. it may destroy my own fusion when they attack it, but if they're willing to play offensively then chances are they're gonna beat over a red eyes fusion anyway
I missed those. :D
Comments are gonna go nuts over Pachycephalo. EDIT: I was wrong, so far they're going nuts over E-Con. Didn't see that coming.
I never expected E.Con to be a problem!
- Adam
@@CardmarketYGO I was also slightly surprised by its rating at first because I don't follow the game closely atm, but then I took 10 minutes to look up recent tournament decks and yeah, it sure gets played.
Pachy is a fan-favourite and the face of stun for a long time so it makes sense people would disagree with that one.
I think comments are taking the title "Staple or Stinker" way too literally. For me it's just "is this good or bad?" or simply rating cards.
I admire your patience, guys.
A couple things. Enemy Controller may still be playable, but it’s not exactly a staple in standard play (not anymore anyway). Fossil Dyna may not be a staple in a generic sense, but it’s definitely better than Enemy Controller and a pretty key card in viable stun decks. That’s all.
E con is still seeing play in kashtira today. Fossil dyna hasn’t topped in over 5 years
Crim understood Appointer in one minute better than the YGO community in 10 years.
Eh keeping a card in hand consistently was tough for a lot of older combo decks, sanctum was usually better
You guys have slowly and surely become an absolute pillar in the youtube community in my eyes, much love
This is great against Submarineroid when it changes itself back to defence after attacking
Crim is an amazing guest...
I kind of wish they would do harder cards. Honestly, some of these are too easy to guess.
I think this episode had some poor choices, pachycephalo is conditionally op or terrible depending on the situation so its neither a staple or a stinker, also Econ is a pretty below average card in the tcg and is definitely closer to stinker than staple as it has only seen play in a few decks to dodge targeting effs
It saw play in the last 6 months. Sur it's not in every deck but it's faaaaar from a stinker.
Enemy controller is a duel links staple…I don’t think it’s much of a staple in the actual Tcg…
To give some extra perspective on relay soul, the link 4 monster saryuja skull dread literally has the effect: special summon one monster from your hand, with the only requirement being that you used at least 3 monsters for its summon. its also once per turn...
Glad to see you back!!
I'm sure this has been mentioned already, but Relay Soul actually has an interesting ruling regarding Xyz Monsters. If the monster summoned by Relay Soul is used as Xyz Material, it isn't counted as leaving the field, so the effect of allowing the opponent to win upon leaving the field can't be applied. It's definitely not a staple by any means, but it can be a pretty cheeky tech in an Xyz-focused deck.
Honestly I’d say he was correct about fossil cuz it does still see play and was a staple but I still agree with all they said about it. Could go either way
Appointer of the Red Lotus (9:04) looks like a meme caricature of Deadpool xD
Staple or Stinker is such a good video idea because it appeals to both Magic players and Yu-Gi-Oh players
I’ve noticed that magic players (like me) read these cards like they’re reading them in pioneer, modern, or standard. When in reality, YuGiOh is essentially strictly vintage and every deck and their staples are geared towards winning as quickly and efficiently as possible. Which, I might add, is also true for the above mentioned formats in MTG. HOWEVER, YuGiOh doesn’t rotate, and doesn’t require mana. I.e. these cards need to be read as though we were analyzing cards through the lens of vintage/legacy. YuGiOh decks are simply a collection of the best, most efficient, and (possibly) flexible possible cards EVER printed for whatever strategy that deck may be going for. Now, of course, I don’t play YuGiOh so take this with a grain of salt, but using this thought process to analyze any given YuGiOh card has worked for me personally.
thanks for having me 🤙 is Jinzo still tier 1? 🤔
He might be if the new trap deck keeps on winning events!
- Adam
I so want the reverse. especially with the mono-black "you cannot win your opponents cannot lose" card. such a curevball
i live in california, and googled "what time is it in germany" when crim said his sleep schedule was terrible. coincidentally, it was 8 am. it is currently 11 pm/23:00 in california. what the fuck crim
Relay soul works really well as an anime hero and anime villian card to save themselves for a plot moment of signture monster cards saving the day for a dramtic showdown.
While I agree that Fossil Dyna is a stinker I don't agree with the reasoning behin it. You don't play that card for its flipp effect but for the "neather player con special summon". The card is not to slow, the reason this card dosn't see play is because it is not searchable and that it affects you too.
lol the shared Delinquent Duo reaction. Even today it is still too OP.
His magic brain immediately went this is bad with appointer XD
6:00 fossil dyna pachycephalo is pronounced
(pack-ee-seff-ah-low) the 'ch' is the same from 'character, school, chronicle'. most people who know how to pronounce the word may try to pronounce the 'ch' as if it was from 'chain, chore, child', they are wrong.
please keep making these
I've always thought that relay soul had some crazy potential, but it would take such a crazy specific situation to be any good.
Does flipping a monster face-down count as "removing from the field"? If not, then any deck that can flip there own monsters could _maybe_ make relatively safe use of relay soul.
flipping it face down won’t count as leaving the field because it is still on field so no dice
the no dmg part of the effect also only applies when the monster is face up too which when it face down will turn this effect off
I understand why you would think this, but honestly, if you want to spend a card to summon any one maindeck monster, there's many ways to do so without risking losing, and if you're trying to avoid all damage, well you only usually need one more turn to win or your opponent likely will, so Waboku would do the job way better, since it will also protect your monsters from battle that turn, and not give you a chance to lose to any removal. I appreciate you trying to make it good though, we always need people like you.
Fossil Dyna was poorly explained, the destruction and floodgate are two different effects and the floodgate does NOT require you to flip it face up first.
Also, I'm pretty sure the first effect wouldn't activate if flipped during the damage step, because it is not a FLIP effect proper, but damage step rulings are a mess so maybe I'm wrong.
The second effect makes Fossil Dyna a staple in any dedicated stun strategy, so I think he actually got every cards right.
its always great seeing fossil dyna being called bad, last thing i want is someone else using my fossil dyna/jowgen and moon mirror shield deck
I don't know if ya'll have done it yet but Witch's Strike I think would be an amazing card for trying to throw people off.
I think that enemy controller Is a Great card, but dont use It on submarineroid.
Worst mistake of my life
i feel like time tearing morganite should be in one of these. that card must seem insane to a mtg player
I was under the impression that econ sees no play in the current meta but I guess I was wrong reading all the comments about Kashtira. I still think Fossil Dyna is better in general though.
I mean like Dyno pachy is kinda that card you build around rather than a staple, like yeah it's too slow but if you want to slow down someone with 30 floodgate well pachy is your best bet along side border and other funny purple card.
4:14 hes refuring to ultimate creature of destruction its a trap that makes blue eyes unaffected.
i would argue e-con is very neish, personally we need a "meh" or neash option espechly for the annoying floodgate dyna
isnt fossils second sentence a permanent effect, let lose from the flip? its a new sentence with no direct connection to the first one, no "adn than" "afterwards" and it also doesnt read "until end of turn so its permanent as long as this remains face up. so you basicly play this when ever you go first as a face up and deny any combo stuff.
Performapal kuriboh was in the first pack I opened in master duel and has saved me in so many games that it's one of the first cards in any deck I make now. Lol
My favorite Yu-Gi-Oh card of all time self-destruction button. I actually made a deck center around it.
As a fan of almost all TCGs I love this format of video wish I didn't know so much though so I could play along :( still love it though
if anyone ever enemy controllered their own boss monster to def position after i lightning stormed id scoop on the spot
the reasoning behind dyna was bad I think. The card is a staple and in fact broken, the effect is amazing simply it's not played because currently there is no deck that can utilize it or turbo into. There's gallant granite that could search it, and it would obliterate a kashtira matchup for example. Simply the meta is currently decks with their own archetpye, and they are not really open for outer archetype techs, but this doesn't make this card a stinker. Droplet is awful this format for example and still stays aroun 30 bucks a piece because it's an amazing card still, just like dyna holds up because stopping special summoning is broken.
I remember Magic having a card that literally said "You cannot lose and your opponent cannot win."
It's always funny to see magic players properly analyze cards without knowing much about them or the game lol
Who out here saying e-con is a staple in the year of our Lord 2023????
I see a lot of comments about this. Enemy Controller is a pretty decent card that hasn't seen play for a while. But as of last year, its popularity has exploded thanks to Spright and Kashtira.
On top of that it's also used in other decks to steal XYZ monsters in the battle phase to then make Zeus in main phase two.
- Adam
Did the artist for Appointer of the Red Lotus misread the brief and just drew a pointer? 😆
I think card number 3 is actually more of a staple its pretty easy to get it to flip during an enemies turn to ruin their whole combos, kinda crazy
There's very, very, VERY good odds it just gets removed before ever seeing the chance.
You're DEAD if your opponent does pull it off, but very good chance you just wasted your normal summon and are now yourself dead
Crim killed it. Glad to see him not doing only rounds for Cardmarket MTG, but also Cardmarket YGO.
Pachy was a real rough one to evaluate. Can kind of think of it as a containment priest? But what it stops is even more ubiquitous than creatures etb'ing without being cast.
So many cards really take their power from the speed of the game, which is why Appointer, which looks like a temporary thoughtsieze that costs 5 life to cast, is so incredibly strong, in such a fast format and game.
Overall, still, awesome stuff Crim!
Relay soul being an anime card is hillarious as it's how the pharoah beat Dartz in the waking the dragon arc 🤣🤣
OMG I actually had an OG Delinquent Duo (got it in the bonus packs with my Jinzo box), not sure if I still have it or not. Never liked it then, but I thought Bark of Dark Ruler was a busted card (funny, I was also the only person in my playgroup of quite a few people to kneejerk jump on a Solemn Judgement, couldn't believe they printed something like that when I heard what it did, I had to have it!).
Don’t know why yt is coping that fossil dyna is viable. Card has been crept for like half a decade
Ah yes the 3 tiers: Staple, Stinker and Relay Soul
Loving the music!
Still waiting for my boy "True King Of All Calamities" to show up in Staple or Stinker 😕
I suppose they are a bit on the side of meme-tier cards, but I am still surprised that Crim hasn't heard of the pacts.
He doesn't really play Modern as far as I know, which probably limits his exposure to them.
Holy, is that Crim my favorite Hullbreacher stan?
woahhhh finally another staple or stinker with Leoni this time!!!