Great video except for one thing you didn’t hardwire it if you actually hardwire it which there is a dongle available from Amazon a first party one you might actually fix your problem of lag, especially in Forza horizon five
Location and service provider will continue to be the make-or-break factor for the foreseeable future. I can't see the scenario where someone gets some crazy benefit unless they are a current subscriber, and had fire sticks in their house already. Even then, if you are dedicated enough to invest in USB Ethernet adapters to get the best possible connection, you would have setup another device by now anyway. What I foresee, is Amazon releasing NEW models this year that will take better advantage of this partnership. This co-indices with MS divesting from hardware and pushing their streaming service harder. And Amazon ditching Luna. It makes for a great bullet-point for MS to list Amazon as another avenue for new subscribers.
My current contract with my ISP is over and I will be looking at direct fibre into the house and an increase of both down and up speeds with lower latency so we shall see if that improves it enough for me to use it more.
makes no difference, I have seen loads of reviews on the official release and it's just the same so I will not even bother doing an update video as it's not worth it.
Yes it doesn’t work for most games regular people play because of lag like we all thought. CFB 25 is about to come out and GTA 6 will be the next big game nobody is going to waste their time with this for big titles and just play it on console or computer.
yeah I agree, a lot needs to change before cloud streaming is a good option for all games and this will not be in the near future. It's not worthless like you said its good for some games and if that is all you want to play then maybe it will be good for some people.
@@ARG you mentioned using it for travel, you think streaming will be better than all the other emulation options (including handheld - jailbroken or not) that are available?
What I mean is when I go on holiday and stay in a hotel that has wifi I will take the firestick so I can watch tv etc so this adds games to keep me entertained when you have downtime. I do think playing games natively on the device will always be best and handhelds like the Anbernic ones I review or other "jailbreak" devices will always be king.
@@ARG I learned the hard way during a birthday party don’t 😞 all they wanted to play was overcooked 😂 and it did not work it also does not allow it on PC unless you download the game locally via gamepass just a fyi no one talks about this major gap
Have you tried it on Amazon silk for fire models that don’t have the app yet? It seems like it works but then my Xbox controller keeps moving the cursor instead of playing the games and I get stuck….any ideas?
It is not 200 million potential new subscribers as the only firetv that can be used have only been available since late 2023. More like a few million maybe…waiting to order mine on Prime days July 16-17
My app looks totally different - only the cloud portion shows so not full gamepass. In terms of playing. Nothing works. I can hear it bit otherwise just a green screen...
Yeah very true but I do have 7ms ping due to full fibre to my house so I do need to have another look at streaming and I will use the nvidia shield pro so keep an eye out for that video.
I am not sure as I gave up on it and I did test the latest device at a friends with the official app and it was the same so didn't take it any further.
There is no fix for lag in this case. firestick uses wifi that isnt a very fast way to use cloud gamming plus it is a hardware with very low specs for it too. If any firestick get a network cable slot someday, maybe it will become nearly acceptable
WiFi is perfectly fine for cloud gaming. Occasionally I use GeForce NOW over WiFi and I can’t tell a difference between local vs cloud gaming and I play shooters and racing games. Now, I will say I have no interference in my case and I have tweaked my WiFi signals manually for optimal performance so, as always, YMMV. If they can get to GeForce NOW performance it’ll be perfectly acceptable for the vast majority of casual gamers. Edit: also, my location to GFN servers might be playing in my favor-but my point is these issues can be addressed.
@@Weeble_Warbles yeah i play in PS Portal using wifi but using the network, not internet and its unbelievable that it have nearly zero delay at 60fps 1080p. If cloud game can do this it will be a great new way to the gamming cenary
1. Use lan not wifi. Just expand your fire stick. 2. The 4 K stick, I dont get that. 4k = more data to transfer. Why not on fire stick 3d gen or so? 3. Do not compare this to a console or gaming pc, that's totally unrealistic. Compare the size of the stick to a console or pc and shut up. Disclaimer, I haven't tested this yet nevertheless my points are serious. Greetings from Netherland
Yes, that is why I never compared the Fire Stick to a console but I did compare the gaming experience as that's the most important thing here all being said we have not learned anything new here as cloud gaming is still as volatile as it has always been and is very reliant on network infrastructure from end to end.
I got it today - works great. Thea idea is for the wife & kids to use it, when I am at work. My Series X was looking at me strange though, when I approached the tv with that tiny fire stick...
I travel 80-100 days out of the year, so this is an excellent option compared to packing up my xbox. Even with lag issues, there are a lot of games that won't be impacted in any meaningful way, such as stardew valley, darkest dungeon, house flipper, etc.
I had a feeling the input latency would've been bad, its the same with geforce now on firestick.
Great video except for one thing you didn’t hardwire it if you actually hardwire it which there is a dongle available from Amazon a first party one you might actually fix your problem of lag, especially in Forza horizon five
A few people have said that so when the app officially releases I will get the adapter and test it again as I want to be fair in the final review.
Hello my New console
Hello my new Subscription
Location and service provider will continue to be the make-or-break factor for the foreseeable future. I can't see the scenario where someone gets some crazy benefit unless they are a current subscriber, and had fire sticks in their house already. Even then, if you are dedicated enough to invest in USB Ethernet adapters to get the best possible connection, you would have setup another device by now anyway.
What I foresee, is Amazon releasing NEW models this year that will take better advantage of this partnership. This co-indices with MS divesting from hardware and pushing their streaming service harder. And Amazon ditching Luna. It makes for a great bullet-point for MS to list Amazon as another avenue for new subscribers.
My current contract with my ISP is over and I will be looking at direct fibre into the house and an increase of both down and up speeds with lower latency so we shall see if that improves it enough for me to use it more.
Good thing all I play are single player games on GP.
You're using an app that I tried on the firestick a year ago. It's not meant for it and not the one that will be released officially.
makes no difference, I have seen loads of reviews on the official release and it's just the same so I will not even bother doing an update video as it's not worth it.
Forza Horizon 4 runs by far better from Cloud than FH 5.
Now that is interesting, will have a look, thanks
Yes it doesn’t work for most games regular people play because of lag like we all thought. CFB 25 is about to come out and GTA 6 will be the next big game nobody is going to waste their time with this for big titles and just play it on console or computer.
yeah I agree, a lot needs to change before cloud streaming is a good option for all games and this will not be in the near future.
It's not worthless like you said its good for some games and if that is all you want to play then maybe it will be good for some people.
@@ARG you mentioned using it for travel, you think streaming will be better than all the other emulation options (including handheld - jailbroken or not) that are available?
What I mean is when I go on holiday and stay in a hotel that has wifi I will take the firestick so I can watch tv etc so this adds games to keep me entertained when you have downtime.
I do think playing games natively on the device will always be best and handhelds like the Anbernic ones I review or other "jailbreak" devices will always be king.
@@ARG Gotcha. I swear you get the best 🎮 to test 🔥can’t wait to see what Q4 will have in store.
Hey Google we need Stadia
Stadia tech was amazing. Miles ahead of everything else.
I have a logitech g cloud and 20 g down load it OK.
Cloud gaming does not allow two player unlike Luna fyi
Booooooooo!
@@ARG I learned the hard way during a birthday party don’t 😞 all they wanted to play was overcooked 😂 and it did not work it also does not allow it on PC unless you download the game locally via gamepass just a fyi no one talks about this major gap
@@anthonythompson9501 yeah that’s a big loss, good job I don’t have any friends 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah , but for poor kids and poor countries, It might be considered , Fantastic. Not for leading edge tech enfusiasts😅❤😊
True and I feel bad for crapping all over it so tomorrow I have fibre direct to the house for super low latency and I will try again.
It may work better with the Amazon Ethernet Adapter for Amazon Fire TV Devices.
good point, I will order one for when the app gets released as I do like to give the service as good a chance as I can.
Wouldn't a media box with ethernet built in be better at that point?
Have you tried it on Amazon silk for fire models that don’t have the app yet? It seems like it works but then my Xbox controller keeps moving the cursor instead of playing the games and I get stuck….any ideas?
I HAVE 1 GIG fibre download and upload , its unplayable still on pc and xbox cloud
wired
This is an APK of the android app. This is definitely not a beta version of the official gamepass app for fire tv.
can you share a link for downloadin please
This is the official beta app for game pass.
Xbox signed a deal with Amazon so official gamepass will be on firestick 4k an 4k max only. I came here looking for the release date myself.
@@slomo7543surprised it’s not available on the latest Firecube too?
...why would msft release the 3 new series x if they are allowing this?
Combined data gathering from Amazon and MS. Do I need to say more?
Greetings from Netherland
A handheld with a great interface is what we all want.
All want? I don't think so.
Greetings from Netherland
Already exist. On PC Handhelds you can use any interface you want. Even the Switch interface.
It is not 200 million potential new subscribers as the only firetv that can be used have only been available since late 2023. More like a few million maybe…waiting to order mine on Prime days July 16-17
pronounces forza horizon 5 ..(forza motorsport lol)
lol
My app looks totally different - only the cloud portion shows so not full gamepass. In terms of playing. Nothing works. I can hear it bit otherwise just a green screen...
I also have gamepass ultimate. Will the work on tv's with fire software built in?
I would say so yes as its the same thing.
Fast Pace Games always been a problem through GamePass even on Tablet or Smartphones
Yeah very true but I do have 7ms ping due to full fibre to my house so I do need to have another look at streaming and I will use the nvidia shield pro so keep an eye out for that video.
Can you play Fortnite on game pass on the fire stick?
Why do you say router like you’re American?
Good thing all I play are single player games on GP.
Good thing all I play are single player games on GP.
Has a lot to do with your internet connection and if you are using wifi or wired.
He got that old model 4k max firestick. Pshh lol
Like that would make a difference it’s still WiFi 6e
Where is it?
I don't see it
How does an existing Xbox controller connect to this if it’s paired to an Xbox in another room?
Bluetooth ☺️
Dude no microphone available
How is this out? Don't it come out later this year.
It’s out this month so any day now
Is not showing on my TV can u make a tutorial how to get it?
Well at least i can play on a trip or at a hotel without my girl noticing that i brought the console..
Why would it matter if you brought your console? Nip it in the bud now cause if you marry her gone be a lot things you ain't gone be able to do.
I don't see the app on my Tv... I bought the 4k Max today just to try it out
You need to download it
Hey JP, great video.
are you able to play microsoft flight simulator on the fire stick?
I am not sure as I gave up on it and I did test the latest device at a friends with the official app and it was the same so didn't take it any further.
That's not the real app
never said it was
It's just the beta app
Awesome!!! Thanks
Basically long story short is it sucks 😂
its not the official one this is a apk
Yeah for now but let’s wait for the release version and see if it’s any better.
There is no fix for lag in this case. firestick uses wifi that isnt a very fast way to use cloud gamming plus it is a hardware with very low specs for it too. If any firestick get a network cable slot someday, maybe it will become nearly acceptable
would love to have been a fly on the wall when the meeting was taking place about them bringing it to firestick lol
WiFi is perfectly fine for cloud gaming. Occasionally I use GeForce NOW over WiFi and I can’t tell a difference between local vs cloud gaming and I play shooters and racing games. Now, I will say I have no interference in my case and I have tweaked my WiFi signals manually for optimal performance so, as always, YMMV. If they can get to GeForce NOW performance it’ll be perfectly acceptable for the vast majority of casual gamers.
Edit: also, my location to GFN servers might be playing in my favor-but my point is these issues can be addressed.
@@Weeble_Warbles yeah i play in PS Portal using wifi but using the network, not internet and its unbelievable that it have nearly zero delay at 60fps 1080p.
If cloud game can do this it will be a great new way to the gamming cenary
@@planetaretrono, PS Portal has a huge delay like 150ms even under the same network. It's over.
it has wifi6 its not the issue.
1. Use lan not wifi. Just expand your fire stick.
2. The 4 K stick, I dont get that. 4k = more data to transfer. Why not on fire stick 3d gen or so?
3. Do not compare this to a console or gaming pc, that's totally unrealistic. Compare the size of the stick to a console or pc and shut up.
Disclaimer, I haven't tested this yet nevertheless my points are serious.
Greetings from Netherland
Yes, that is why I never compared the Fire Stick to a console but I did compare the gaming experience as that's the most important thing here all being said we have not learned anything new here as cloud gaming is still as volatile as it has always been and is very reliant on network infrastructure from end to end.
Try wired.
I will when it officially releases 👍🏼
Does the app have remote play?
as in direct from your own console? if so I never looked but I know the firestick has another app that can do that.
I got it today - works great. Thea idea is for the wife & kids to use it, when I am at work. My Series X was looking at me strange though, when I approached the tv with that tiny fire stick...
LOL
Get ready to have adds within the games.
I travel 80-100 days out of the year, so this is an excellent option compared to packing up my xbox. Even with lag issues, there are a lot of games that won't be impacted in any meaningful way, such as stardew valley, darkest dungeon, house flipper, etc.