This series on Rockwood/Flagstaff is the best education on this company anywhere. It should be mandatory viewing for all dealerships that carry their products. We most likely know more than the average sales person selling these. Thanks for the tour!
Craftmanship and pride in product!!! This 3 part tour adds a whole new meaning to when you say "Rockwood doing Rockwood things"! You're not kidding. Attention to detail that makes product last the test of time. Thanks Rockwood for showing us how you build your product. Other industries could learn from your manufacturing processes. Thanks Haylett RV, it's really nice to see how these things come together. Josh thank you again. You're my favorite RV reviewer. Not to serious, not to crazy and always funny and entertaining. The perfect balance.
Rockwood is FIRST CLASS bc they go the Extra Mile & that is why I own a Rockwood GEO PRO! Thx so much for Reviewing their construction it Demonstrates their Great Craftsmanship and Product Pride. It also, reinforces the Reasons I Bought One.
So I am a Mechanical and Systems Engineer and lifelong design professional. I really appreciate your videos and comments. We bought a Geo Pro 15TB a year ago and had a couple trips last year. We LOVE it!
The wife and I were undecided on a Rockwood or another brand but after seeing your factory tour of the Rockwood, I think that is the one we will go with…now choosing a floor plan! Thank you very much for taking the time to make these videos, they are very informative!
Azdel is great. There’s no off gassing that you get with composite wood products. For me Azdel is a must. When you full time, you see a lot of older RVs that are delaminating badly. Some of them are reputable builders. Well done Rockwood. It’s a well designed and built trailer!
I know we made the right choice with the Geo Pro 19BH but seeing the factory tour really reinforces that! Thanks for all these videos, even though I am not in the market anymore I keep watching because I keep learning
I love the attitude of emphasizing safety. In term of factory tour idea, I would like to see a short interview / conversation with the assemblers talk about the key steps in the work, a minute or two for each stage would be good enough.
I absolutely love these factory tours. This is really what gives you the confidence to make that huge investment. I had a Wolf Pup and one of the big complaints was those bolts that kept spinning off. After years of customer complaints, Wolf Pup still continues to allow this to happen while Rockwood has added a second bolt. I am getting ready to purchase a 19FBTH and this video is a huge selling point. Thanks Josh for putting in so much effort to bring these to those of us who live too far away to see this in person. It is very much appreciated!
How cool was it we got to see a sample of their suspension package right at the front end of this video!! Thx for watching :) I'd love it if you dropped me a quick review some time at g.page/r/CdPcitNVx2nDEAg/review in return for the efforts btw!
*Thanks for tuning in once again! Here are some quick links back to Parts 1 and 2 if you missed them and need to get caught up!* → Part 1: Rockwood Signature & Flagstaff Classic Ultralite Travel Trailers & Fifth Wheels: th-cam.com/video/hjgRtrsh9sc/w-d-xo.html → Part 2: Rockwood Mini Lite & Flagstaff Micro Lite Travel Trailers: th-cam.com/video/4MZuG_5qBqM/w-d-xo.html
Great video! Thanks, learned a lot! Only own Rockwood but frankly thought it was mostly hype and this shows it actually is significant difference in quality. Appreciate knowing!! Loved this whole series!
OMG! NOW THIS IS A GREAT TOUR! I watched a customer tour and it was horrific.The crew was working in a rushed spastic manor. I got the impression or actually...it looked to be slapped together. Also, at the time they were using OSB for the floor and calling it something else. This here is a game changer. Note: you are one dedicated dude.
I was actually REALLY impressed with the improvements they've made since my last visit. Rockwood has never been one to just "sit on their hands" but the bulked up chassis/flooring I've seen thru their plants is inspiring
Love the series of manufacturing. I ordered a Mini Lite from you all and can’t wait to get it! More mportantly, this helps instill more confidence in our choice of RVs, and dealership!
Josh, great job as always. So impressed with Rockwood we ordered one. Thanks for walking us through all the different versions ! Appreciate you and Rockwood
I am a GeoPro owner who had troubles with my flooring separating from the frame because of poor fastener application at the factory. Good to see the factory went back and upgraded the fastener connections the exact same way I did it...double-nutted with a Nylock nut finish. This was my biggest complaint about quality in my rig.
I really enjoyed the Rockwood plant tour video. We’re picking up our new 2023 Geo Pro 15TB tomorrow and are so excited. It was great to watch your tour video and see exactly what we are spending our hard earned money on. Paul Galo
Thank you! I needed the measurements of the walls. We want to do some mods and were unsure of what we had to play with! This video has given me a lot of confidence! I knew they were well made. You took the time to tell us more details about the various stations than other videos. Going to FROG Rally in August and we hope they start the factory tours again!
Epic amount of insulation. Josh, you introduced me to Rockwood so I must thank you 🍻. I'm sold and the Ms is starting to lean more towards one. Fits our needs and just seeing this I don't have any doubts now. We want and can afford the Lance 2075 but wants vs needs... This is all we need 😁
I love the factory tour! My next time I'm ready for a new or used RV I will be looking for a Rockwood or Flagstaff. I'm really a fan of all your RV videos, If I didn't live so far away I would probably buy one from you.
Hey Josh, love your videos!! Next time you're talking with Rockwood Geo... tell them to put a murphy bed in their Geo Pro G16BH ! This would make the prefect small camper for 2 adults and 2 kids. The current floorpan is nice but the need to make up the bed everyday is a deal breaker. Thanks! Gary
Josh Thanks again for another great video. We have a GeoPro 19FD we love it and the quality shows. We will buy another Rockwood product Because of the quality they put in the trailers.
They used to do OSB floors, or (Weyerhauser structureboard as Anthony Yoder called it). My 2020 19BH definitely has it because the floor sags between the floor beams when stepped on. That doesn't happen with 5/8 ply. Good to know they switched it out. So not really a misconception, just a change that they made at some point for the better.
Seriously have been looking at the Geo Pro travel trailers! I’m thinking for the money they probably are the best out there! I’ve never been into campers that are essentially “houses on wheels”. Something on the smaller side is more my style. Really the only requirements the wife and I are looking for are a comfortable bed and a dry bath, separate shower type. As of now not sure which floor plan to go for.
Love the off road blue gas strut. I'm taking a few more ideas each time I wacht your videos. I've got my Sandy River Edition of a Minnie Lite 2507S with 5 Solar panels a 2800 inverter with Mttps, raise toilet, extra eating table, slam lashed doors, extra 15,000btu air conditioning, bike rack on the Hich.💟🤔 So do the math for the gran total...Hahaha...😁
Another very informative and well-done video Josh! We just picked up our 20FBS locally and couldn't be more pleased with it. After looking at several brands during our search, buying a GeoPro was an easy decision. This factory tour video is icing on the decision cake as it were. Thanks for being such an RV nerd!!
Thank you Rockwood and Thank You Josh, Great info, maybe at the beginning or end a screenshot of the models with floorplan out of the catalog for that particular line of trailers that you are touring would be neat to know otherwise great work Josh👍
Outstanding video very informative. Josh you have a gift that alot of us wish we had. Honest and very knowledgeable. You sold me on Geo Pro. Now have to convince my wife. Any ideas???
TY for watching :) I don't think you'll see a lot on those. Though I've heard rumor they're working thru the signature line slowly to remove carpeting where they can. I'd be very excited to see it!
I like this series, very informative. Will you be showing the ROO line too. I have one on order and would love to see the production line for that series.
I won't be showing the Roo line DIRECTLY... but we've basically already covered it. Roo and Mini Lite are literally the same RV. The bed ends are the only difference Next week we cover popups Combine the mini lite tour with the bed-ends from the popups tour and BAM! You got a Roo!
Are these guys hiring? That aluminum welding is killing me! I will never understand why anyone finds that acceptable. Bums me right out because I want one!!!
@@JoshtheRVNerd I did cosmetic aluminum welding for a company called Logan Coach. I know it is an industry issue. 4:23 is a good example. There is at least 1 (It looks like 2) hole in the weld that is closest to the center screen. The weld to the right of it covers maaaaaybe 70% of the joint being generous. That is one reason why welds crack and break. Trailer companies get away with it because it is almost never seen once fabricated. Any welder worth his salt would not let that fly in my opinion. QC should be on that! (I also have 3 years of QC experience in a precision machine shop *cough *cough) I don't even know how to respond to 4:52 politely. For anyone with welding experience, I can guarantee you that is a HUGE red flag when considering spending this kind of money on a trailer.
@@jasonlamb3533 100% in agreement re. the welds!! Sure those welds are hidden, but that's just the point. If they're so worried about using good plywood to support the shower (which also can't be readily seen), then why aren't they equally observant about having good, consistent welding on the floor frame? That one at 4:52 is egregious, but others just seem like they're tacked. I would like to see a full bead down the seam. Am I wrong?
Hey Josh, I was driving from Washington state to New York and past the Grand Design plant and thought of you and your tours...I don't know if you have ever given a video tour of their plant. Keep up the good work, the Nerd herd appreciates it.
Thanks for posting this very informative video. We've been considering the purchase of a new GeoPro G20FBS and your video raised some specific questions about the main chassis frame currently being used by Rockwood. I've seen other videos and pictures showing 2021 and 2022 model GeoPros using the BAL NXG (C-Channel) frame with all huck bolt connections for the outriggers and frame crossmembers. At the 2:10 mark of this video, the stack of new chassis frames appear to be all welded C-channel or box tube frames. At the 5:49 mark showing the Air-Ride suspension, that also appears to be a C-channel or box tube frame with welded outrigger connections. At the 7:06 mark showing the typical torsion axle suspension, that is clearly an I-beam frame (Lippert?). The I-beam type frame with welded outrigger connections is also shown at the 11:09 mark of the video. So what frame assembly is currently being used on the GeoPro - the BAL C-Channel with huck bolts? Or a Lippert (or other) I-beam frame with all welded connections? Or does it vary by particular model?
Their chassis did change recently but it was not a "documented change" but rather something that happened "mid stride" They'll all use the same chassis but the 19FBTH exclusively uses the air ride system while the rest use torsion
@@JoshtheRVNerd So ignoring the 19FBTH, which chassis are they now using on their other models - the BAL C-Channel with bolted connections or an I-Beam frame with welded connections?
@@omcbob37 As I recall they have largely swapped over to I-Beam frames. That's what I recall seeing for a while now. We have only a single Geo Pro on hand currently but it also has an I-Beam frame which is consistent with what I recall. I think it was a silent change from BAL to I-Beam frames along the 2022 model year
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thanks for the response. I also confirmed with Forest River this morning they are using the Lippert welded I-beam frame exclusively now and plan to continue using it.
Wow really great video Josh. I am impressed by the build techniques loving that air suspension lot of good stiff with geo pro I run into a lot of them in California people dry camping an work camping right in mall parking lots an if the people are there I always ask how they like them they always say they love them I gonna say the Lamanated walls hold up pretty good on geo pros compared to some I not gonna name brands..... In California do to great weather here r.v. builders in California are a little skimpy .... Seeing the guts of these is very cool I can see were in future like u said this last run of this model someone 10 years from now who broke a waterline or wire wear out an they have to replace might use your video to see were that line in walll. Your factory tours are great but it would be great for you to interview a manager towards end just to speak about there great product geo is in my top 10 list of good brands well built r.v.
Uncle Josh; by far the best factory tour and explanation of product yet! I have watched this one three times now. You are on your game GOLD MEDAL TIME!!!! Man, I love those weld points they are doing! No little puny spot welds like I have seen other manufacturers do. The roof system is really awesome, great point about the strength. QUESTION: Is there a spot in the roof for connection for a DISH Antenna? Also, is there a way to retract the slides in case of a failure? Last, can you sit in the slides with them retracted inside? Double Azdel brings this up to a Lance quality product for 1/3-1/2 less money....AWESOME!!! I do wish they would fully enclose the belly though.....maybe like one other co. that uses the more rigid panels with the foil attached to the sections. Man, this is a awesome little trailer! Only question now is......Geo Pro or Mini Lite??
On the rear eating model they should consider having a drop down rear wall like a toy hauler that can be used as a rear deck or lower further as a traditional cargo ramp toy halter for smaller items like mountain bikes, skies, surf board, side ladder storage etc with the toy hauler air ride. Also have a rear awning over the back, nice if it rains etc. Rear picnic/sun bathing/lounge deck. Also have a cooker hooker connection and magnetic screen system.
Another great video. I am leaning towards the E Geo Pro 19BH. This brand must keep good resale past the 5 year mark. I like that low profile AC. Good to know about the fridge. Definitely a perfect size to power consumption balance
My list; Rockwood , Keystone, Jayco. I love models of all 3 manufacturers, the build and the QC. However Rockwood has always impressed me the most. No, there's no perfect RV but they get ya close as possible. Perfect blend of flash and function over all flash and 2 years later.. a " soup sammich". That said, I want the 2516s. Wife wants the Cougar 26rds. 1st world problems 😏
Awesome tour Uncle Josh! You didn’t mention that the entire roof surface is bonded to the wood surface to prevent blistering. That’s still true for all Epro and Geopros, yes?
I had to come back and revisit this video because I was on some RV user group and someone posted a photo of the side of their travel trailer (It was a Bullet by Keystone) and there was a huge piece of the laminate missing on the side, near the front, exposing the plywood underneath. The problem appeared to come from a lack of maintenance by the previous owner. It got me to thinking, do I have plywood in my walls (We have a 2019 E-Pro 19BH)? I did not think so which is why I am here and NO, there is not. This video (and many others by Josh) is the reason that we purchased the rig that we have. We have owned our rig for 1 1/2 years, towed it almost 17,000 miles through 25 states (even through the white knuckle, 10% grade Teton Pass going from Jackson Hole, WY to Yellowstone) and have experienced NO major issues. We chose a smaller rig because we were limited by our tow vehicle (2022 Toyota Sienna Hybrid XSE). Watching this video again just reinforces why we made a great decision to purchase our E-Pro!
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thanks Josh! That is what I thought and why I came back to review your video to confirm. Another reason that I am so glad that I bought an E-Pro!!
Hi Josh, the factory tours are the best. I saw in another's TH-cam video ( Rockwood 2022 2509s Small Solar Upgrade) that Ian used 3M VHB dbl stick tape to attach additional solar panels to the roof (14:10 min into video), rather than putting additional holes in the roof with screws thru the roof membrane. Do you have any thoughts on this or have you discussed with any of the manufacturers? My concern is that the 3M VHB permanent type tape is only attached to a membrane that itself is only glued to the rood below...although I do like the idea of less holes in the roof.
I would like to see a video on primarily single axle trailers... I bought a trailer that had load range C tires and 1480 # rated rims.. realized both were under rated for unit specs... called for D rated tires, and I needed 1660# rated rims.. I drove too long not realizing I was taking chances not being up on that like I should have been
Okay I'll go ahead and say it,
This is probably the most anticipated factory tour you are going to give.
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I figured a lot of folks would like seeing this one and the Mini Lites
This series on Rockwood/Flagstaff is the best education on this company anywhere. It should be mandatory viewing for all dealerships that carry their products. We most likely know more than the average sales person selling these. Thanks for the tour!
Wow.. thanks Wayne!
Why? The wealth of knowledge is just one more reason you should be buying from Haylett!!! ;-)
truth
Craftmanship and pride in product!!! This 3 part tour adds a whole new meaning to when you say "Rockwood doing Rockwood things"! You're not kidding. Attention to detail that makes product last the test of time. Thanks Rockwood for showing us how you build your product. Other industries could learn from your manufacturing processes. Thanks Haylett RV, it's really nice to see how these things come together. Josh thank you again. You're my favorite RV reviewer. Not to serious, not to crazy and always funny and entertaining. The perfect balance.
Ty :)
Rockwood is FIRST CLASS bc they go the Extra Mile & that is why I own a Rockwood GEO PRO! Thx so much for Reviewing their construction it Demonstrates their Great Craftsmanship and Product Pride. It also, reinforces the Reasons I Bought One.
After looking for a 19FBS for 4 months, I found one in Oklahoma. Best travel trailer on the market. Thank you for all the advuce!!
Congratulations
We have a 2020 E-Pro E20BHS and absolutely LOVE it
Monster floor plan! Good choice!
So I am a Mechanical and Systems Engineer and lifelong design professional. I really appreciate your videos and comments. We bought a Geo Pro 15TB a year ago and had a couple trips last year. We LOVE it!
Wow, thank you!
The wife and I were undecided on a Rockwood or another brand but after seeing your factory tour of the Rockwood, I think that is the one we will go with…now choosing a floor plan! Thank you very much for taking the time to make these videos, they are very informative!
Azdel is great. There’s no off gassing that you get with composite wood products. For me Azdel is a must. When you full time, you see a lot of older RVs that are delaminating badly. Some of them are reputable builders. Well done Rockwood. It’s a well designed and built trailer!
Glad to see they're dbl nutting the side wall to the outrigger (11:08). I heard about that on another video. Thank you!!!
"Five point cubic three total foot" - one for the blooper reel! You crack me up, Josh! Great video
sigh... lol :)
I'm sold. I was contemplating Keystone Vs Rockwood.... Now we know
I know we made the right choice with the Geo Pro 19BH but seeing the factory tour really reinforces that! Thanks for all these videos, even though I am not in the market anymore I keep watching because I keep learning
I love the attitude of emphasizing safety. In term of factory tour idea, I would like to see a short interview / conversation with the assemblers talk about the key steps in the work, a minute or two for each stage would be good enough.
Ty for watching. Maybe I can try to include some of that in future tours
Thanks Josh - I'd forgotten about the 15TB and when refreshing my memory this video came up - fantastic tour!
It’s a fun little model. She’s gotten a bit heavy for what it is though
I absolutely love these factory tours. This is really what gives you the confidence to make that huge investment. I had a Wolf Pup and one of the big complaints was those bolts that kept spinning off. After years of customer complaints, Wolf Pup still continues to allow this to happen while Rockwood has added a second bolt. I am getting ready to purchase a 19FBTH and this video is a huge selling point. Thanks Josh for putting in so much effort to bring these to those of us who live too far away to see this in person. It is very much appreciated!
How cool was it we got to see a sample of their suspension package right at the front end of this video!! Thx for watching :)
I'd love it if you dropped me a quick review some time at g.page/r/CdPcitNVx2nDEAg/review in return for the efforts btw!
Hyper Color!!! I remember that stuff. #80’s kid
Was it 80's or 90's?
Did they bleed thru a bit?
*Thanks for tuning in once again! Here are some quick links back to Parts 1 and 2 if you missed them and need to get caught up!*
→ Part 1: Rockwood Signature & Flagstaff Classic Ultralite Travel Trailers & Fifth Wheels: th-cam.com/video/hjgRtrsh9sc/w-d-xo.html
→ Part 2: Rockwood Mini Lite & Flagstaff Micro Lite Travel Trailers: th-cam.com/video/4MZuG_5qBqM/w-d-xo.html
Another fantastic Rockwood/Flagstaff factory tour, I'm hoping and wishing for a 5th wheel assembly tour. Thank you so much for what you do. 😊😊
I went thru the signature line in part one, but they were running trailers that day. The processes would be the same
Can’t wait to see the Roo / Shamrock tour
Love Rockwood! The trailer of hold my beer, let's make this better.
Learned about the recycling water at the shower. Never knew that!
Great video! Thanks, learned a lot! Only own Rockwood but frankly thought it was mostly hype and this shows it actually is significant difference in quality. Appreciate knowing!! Loved this whole series!
Ty Resa!! Our series wraps up tomorrow with a popup tour and our first 2022 geo pro video goes live as well!!
I've been debating between a GeoPro and an Escape 5.0. This tour definitely tips the scale in favor of the GeoPro. Thank you for doing it!
Glad it was helpful! Please consider dropping my Coldwater, MI home store a review in return for the effort at www.bishs.com/review-us-manually/
Excellent build quality . Thank you Josh & Flagstaff /Rockwood for the factory tour !
Our pleasure!
Thanks for this one. I already have my E-pro, but still love to see how they are made.
Great video and impressed with the quality of the production,
OMG! NOW THIS IS A GREAT TOUR! I watched a customer tour and it was horrific.The crew was working in a rushed spastic manor. I got the impression or actually...it looked to be slapped together. Also, at the time they were using OSB for the floor and calling it something else. This here is a game changer. Note: you are one dedicated dude.
I was actually REALLY impressed with the improvements they've made since my last visit. Rockwood has never been one to just "sit on their hands" but the bulked up chassis/flooring I've seen thru their plants is inspiring
Love these tours! Helps by seeing the quality that goes into the construction!
Our pleasure!
Thank you! Rockwood. /Flagstaff. Awesome! video Josh. Thank you for all the videos and information you provide.
Love the series of manufacturing. I ordered a Mini Lite from you all and can’t wait to get it! More mportantly, this helps instill more confidence in our choice of RVs, and dealership!
That is why I love my trailer.
Josh, great job as always. So impressed with Rockwood we ordered one. Thanks for walking us through all the different versions ! Appreciate you and Rockwood
Interesting tour. Sure seems like more of a quality build than other campers I've seen through the years.
Your videos--and these tours--are consistently brilliant, Josh. You have absolutely sold me on a GeoPro when the time comes! Thank you! 👍
Well thank ya
Amazing quality! I see a 19fd Geopro in our future! Thank you Josh!
I am a GeoPro owner who had troubles with my flooring separating from the frame because of poor fastener application at the factory. Good to see the factory went back and upgraded the fastener connections the exact same way I did it...double-nutted with a Nylock nut finish. This was my biggest complaint about quality in my rig.
Thanks for sharing. Glad to know they’re making improvements that matter
I really enjoyed the Rockwood plant tour video. We’re picking up our new 2023 Geo Pro 15TB tomorrow and are so excited. It was great to watch your tour video and see exactly what we are spending our hard earned money on. Paul Galo
Congrats!! If this was helpful, then would you mind dropping me a quick review at g.page/r/CdPcitNVx2nDEAg/review in return for the helping hand?
Can't wait for part 4, since we own a 2021 Rockwood Hw296..
Josh you have again impressed me with this video and I appreciate the time you have taken to educate us on their product line, Thanks again!
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You just helped me make my mind up which trailer I'm gonna look at thank you
Glad to be of service!
Hyper color shirts Gen X - good video with lots of information
I was born on that GenX / Millenial cusp
My age group has had like.. 9 different titles
I don't know what I am. I'm just doing my nerdything over here
Thank you! I needed the measurements of the walls. We want to do some mods and were unsure of what we had to play with! This video has given me a lot of confidence! I knew they were well made. You took the time to tell us more details about the various stations than other videos. Going to FROG Rally in August and we hope they start the factory tours again!
Glad I could help! TY for watching, Beth :)
Great video. Will be taking a look at them !!
Loved the tour and information. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
They should consider air ride for all models so one can adjust tongue/hitch weight.
I predict more brands offering new/improved suspension system in these "premium little guys" more frequently in the future
Thank you for making tand sharing his video !
Our pleasure!
Epic amount of insulation. Josh, you introduced me to Rockwood so I must thank you 🍻. I'm sold and the Ms is starting to lean more towards one. Fits our needs and just seeing this I don't have any doubts now. We want and can afford the Lance 2075 but wants vs needs... This is all we need 😁
There are a lot of good RVs out there but there's something special about rockwood. Pound for pound overall they're just really on point
I got one in October 2020 15TB. The prefect camper.
Outstanding. Learned so much and gained even more confidence in the brand
Awesome! Thanks for joining us today
I love theses RVs. Got one for sale on the lot now!!
I love the factory tour! My next time I'm ready for a new or used RV I will be looking for a Rockwood or Flagstaff. I'm really a fan of all your RV videos, If I didn't live so far away I would probably buy one from you.
I bought a 2021 Geo Pro 20bhs in 2020 and I'm very happy with the quality. It's been a great camper.
Great to hear!
A 19FBTH from either brand, with the Power Package, is on my VERY short list for full time, nomad living.
Hey Josh, love your videos!!
Next time you're talking with Rockwood Geo... tell them to put a murphy bed in their Geo Pro G16BH ! This would make the prefect small camper for 2 adults and 2 kids. The current floorpan is nice but the need to make up the bed everyday is a deal breaker.
Thanks!
Gary
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Thank You Rockwood / Haylet !! May I suggest a Top 10 list of Campers for Tall People .
Ty and ty for the idea
Great review 👍 Geo Pro units look like some great quality fit and finish! Thanks for taking the time for making this review.
My pleasure :)
Great info - thank you Josh!
Glad it was helpful!
Nice job here. The Geo Pro 19BTH is the now the front runner in my toy hauler search.
Got a tour of one of those here for you! bit.ly/3CezHNC
The techs were like little kids playing with that onboard compressor system lol
Josh
Thanks again for another great video.
We have a GeoPro 19FD we love it and the quality shows.
We will buy another Rockwood product
Because of the quality they put in the trailers.
TY for sharing. The updated 19FD just landed and I love it!
They used to do OSB floors, or (Weyerhauser structureboard as Anthony Yoder called it). My 2020 19BH definitely has it because the floor sags between the floor beams when stepped on. That doesn't happen with 5/8 ply. Good to know they switched it out. So not really a misconception, just a change that they made at some point for the better.
Seriously have been looking at the Geo Pro travel trailers! I’m thinking for the money they probably are the best out there! I’ve never been into campers that are essentially “houses on wheels”. Something on the smaller side is more my style. Really the only requirements the wife and I are looking for are a comfortable bed and a dry bath, separate shower type. As of now not sure which floor plan to go for.
Wow just watched this… thank you everyone
TY for tuning in! :)
Love the off road blue gas strut. I'm taking a few more ideas each time I wacht your videos. I've got my Sandy River Edition of a Minnie Lite 2507S with 5 Solar panels a 2800 inverter with Mttps, raise toilet, extra eating table, slam lashed doors, extra 15,000btu air conditioning, bike rack on the Hich.💟🤔 So do the math for the gran total...Hahaha...😁
Sounds pretty awesome! Roof has to be flooded with panels
This was a great factory tour. two years later, is rockwood still producing as reliable models with the same construction practices?
I feel they are. I would put them next to anyone
Pound for pound I think they’re amazing
Great show.
Ty!!
Another very informative and well-done video Josh! We just picked up our 20FBS locally and couldn't be more pleased with it. After looking at several brands during our search, buying a GeoPro was an easy decision. This factory tour video is icing on the decision cake as it were. Thanks for being such an RV nerd!!
Congratulations!!
Thank you Rockwood and Thank You Josh, Great info, maybe at the beginning or end a screenshot of the models with floorplan out of the catalog for that particular line of trailers that you are touring would be neat to know otherwise great work Josh👍
That’s a solid idea. Ty
Outstanding video very informative. Josh you have a gift that alot of us wish we had. Honest and very knowledgeable. You sold me on Geo Pro. Now have to convince my wife. Any ideas???
Convincing her is up to you man lol
Thanks for sharing.
My pleasure!!
OUTSTANDING!!!
Thank you for another very informative video.
Our pleasure!
I cannot wait till the 2022 8263MBR or 2613BS comes out to see what changes they made. So much potential in these RVs, especially for a couple.
TY for watching :)
I don't think you'll see a lot on those. Though I've heard rumor they're working thru the signature line slowly to remove carpeting where they can. I'd be very excited to see it!
Ty Josh . Great Video
Our pleasure! Learn anything new or interesting??
Really like that RD model. Too bad they don't bring it back. I love a rear dinette/living area with windows on three sides like that
Thank's josh very informative tour loved it!!!
Thx Mark!
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it!!
G or E your still a Pro!
❤️It
hahaha -- well played :)
That was an awesome tour Thank You
Glad you enjoyed it!
I like this series, very informative. Will you be showing the ROO line too. I have one on order and would love to see the production line for that series.
I won't be showing the Roo line DIRECTLY... but we've basically already covered it.
Roo and Mini Lite are literally the same RV. The bed ends are the only difference
Next week we cover popups
Combine the mini lite tour with the bed-ends from the popups tour and BAM! You got a Roo!
Not gonna lie, I'm a little offended about us not getting any love over at 10d😅
GREAT VIDEO!
Glad you think so!
Awesome job as usual
TY TY :)
Are these guys hiring? That aluminum welding is killing me! I will never understand why anyone finds that acceptable. Bums me right out because I want one!!!
I'm uneducated in welding. Could you enlighten me as to what's been done poorly?
@@JoshtheRVNerd I did cosmetic aluminum welding for a company called Logan Coach. I know it is an industry issue. 4:23 is a good example. There is at least 1 (It looks like 2) hole in the weld that is closest to the center screen. The weld to the right of it covers maaaaaybe 70% of the joint being generous. That is one reason why welds crack and break. Trailer companies get away with it because it is almost never seen once fabricated. Any welder worth his salt would not let that fly in my opinion. QC should be on that! (I also have 3 years of QC experience in a precision machine shop *cough *cough) I don't even know how to respond to 4:52 politely. For anyone with welding experience, I can guarantee you that is a HUGE red flag when considering spending this kind of money on a trailer.
@@jasonlamb3533 100% in agreement re. the welds!! Sure those welds are hidden, but that's just the point. If they're so worried about using good plywood to support the shower (which also can't be readily seen), then why aren't they equally observant about having good, consistent welding on the floor frame? That one at 4:52 is egregious, but others just seem like they're tacked. I would like to see a full bead down the seam. Am I wrong?
Kind of odd, but I work in an aircraft mod facility and so many of the things rv MFG do are exactly how we do planes.
Bought new because they take so many suggestions! Auto detect for lithium batteries now? So excited to upgrade my 2024 19 fbs.
They’ve had auto detect converters for a while thankfully
Hey Josh, I was driving from Washington state to New York and past the Grand Design plant and thought of you and your tours...I don't know if you have ever given a video tour of their plant. Keep up the good work, the Nerd herd appreciates it.
Thanks for posting this very informative video. We've been considering the purchase of a new GeoPro G20FBS and your video raised some specific questions about the main chassis frame currently being used by Rockwood. I've seen other videos and pictures showing 2021 and 2022 model GeoPros using the BAL NXG (C-Channel) frame with all huck bolt connections for the outriggers and frame crossmembers. At the 2:10 mark of this video, the stack of new chassis frames appear to be all welded C-channel or box tube frames. At the 5:49 mark showing the Air-Ride suspension, that also appears to be a C-channel or box tube frame with welded outrigger connections. At the 7:06 mark showing the typical torsion axle suspension, that is clearly an I-beam frame (Lippert?). The I-beam type frame with welded outrigger connections is also shown at the 11:09 mark of the video. So what frame assembly is currently being used on the GeoPro - the BAL C-Channel with huck bolts? Or a Lippert (or other) I-beam frame with all welded connections? Or does it vary by particular model?
Their chassis did change recently but it was not a "documented change" but rather something that happened "mid stride"
They'll all use the same chassis but the 19FBTH exclusively uses the air ride system while the rest use torsion
@@JoshtheRVNerd So ignoring the 19FBTH, which chassis are they now using on their other models - the BAL C-Channel with bolted connections or an I-Beam frame with welded connections?
@@omcbob37 As I recall they have largely swapped over to I-Beam frames. That's what I recall seeing for a while now. We have only a single Geo Pro on hand currently but it also has an I-Beam frame which is consistent with what I recall.
I think it was a silent change from BAL to I-Beam frames along the 2022 model year
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thanks for the response. I also confirmed with Forest River this morning they are using the Lippert welded I-beam frame exclusively now and plan to continue using it.
@@omcbob37 Good! I like it when our notes all line up with one another. Thanks for watching. Great eagle eye on that.
Wow really great video Josh. I am impressed by the build techniques loving that air suspension lot of good stiff with geo pro I run into a lot of them in California people dry camping an work camping right in mall parking lots an if the people are there I always ask how they like them they always say they love them I gonna say the Lamanated walls hold up pretty good on geo pros compared to some I not gonna name brands..... In California do to great weather here r.v. builders in California are a little skimpy .... Seeing the guts of these is very cool I can see were in future like u said this last run of this model someone 10 years from now who broke a waterline or wire wear out an they have to replace might use your video to see were that line in walll. Your factory tours are great but it would be great for you to interview a manager towards end just to speak about there great product geo is in my top 10 list of good brands well built r.v.
Awesome video Josh
Glad you enjoyed it
Uncle Josh; by far the best factory tour and explanation of product yet! I have watched this one three times now. You are on your game GOLD MEDAL TIME!!!! Man, I love those weld points they are doing! No little puny spot welds like I have seen other manufacturers do. The roof system is really awesome, great point about the strength.
QUESTION: Is there a spot in the roof for connection for a DISH Antenna? Also, is there a way to retract the slides in case of a failure? Last, can you sit in the slides with them retracted inside?
Double Azdel brings this up to a Lance quality product for 1/3-1/2 less money....AWESOME!!! I do wish they would fully enclose the belly though.....maybe like one other co. that uses the more rigid panels with the foil attached to the sections. Man, this is a awesome little trailer! Only question now is......Geo Pro or Mini Lite??
Roof isn’t satellite prepped, but there are “table top” receivers out there that work nicely
Not generally recommended to use closed slides btw
On the rear eating model they should consider having a drop down rear wall like a toy hauler that can be used as a rear deck or lower further as a traditional cargo ramp toy halter for smaller items like mountain bikes, skies, surf board, side ladder storage etc with the toy hauler air ride. Also have a rear awning over the back, nice if it rains etc.
Rear picnic/sun bathing/lounge deck. Also have a cooker hooker connection and magnetic screen system.
Cool idea
@@JoshtheRVNerd We Order, they will build it!
What an interesting video!! Thank you so much! Can you tell me how they ship across the country or in Canada?
Another great video. I am leaning towards the E Geo Pro 19BH. This brand must keep good resale past the 5 year mark. I like that low profile AC. Good to know about the fridge. Definitely a perfect size to power consumption balance
They're ultra-popular and vanish from the used lots as fast as the new lots typically
My list; Rockwood , Keystone, Jayco. I love models of all 3 manufacturers, the build and the QC. However Rockwood has always impressed me the most. No, there's no perfect RV but they get ya close as possible. Perfect blend of flash and function over all flash and 2 years later.. a " soup sammich".
That said, I want the 2516s. Wife wants the Cougar 26rds.
1st world problems 😏
Man.. I feel like you and I are cut from the same camping cloth
Awesome tour Uncle Josh! You didn’t mention that the entire roof surface is bonded to the wood surface to prevent blistering. That’s still true for all Epro and Geopros, yes?
All rockwood travel trailers and fifth wheels, yes
Nice
Thanks
I had to come back and revisit this video because I was on some RV user group and someone posted a photo of the side of their travel trailer (It was a Bullet by Keystone) and there was a huge piece of the laminate missing on the side, near the front, exposing the plywood underneath. The problem appeared to come from a lack of maintenance by the previous owner. It got me to thinking, do I have plywood in my walls (We have a 2019 E-Pro 19BH)? I did not think so which is why I am here and NO, there is not.
This video (and many others by Josh) is the reason that we purchased the rig that we have. We have owned our rig for 1 1/2 years, towed it almost 17,000 miles through 25 states (even through the white knuckle, 10% grade Teton Pass going from Jackson Hole, WY to Yellowstone) and have experienced NO major issues. We chose a smaller rig because we were limited by our tow vehicle (2022 Toyota Sienna Hybrid XSE). Watching this video again just reinforces why we made a great decision to purchase our E-Pro!
Geo pro has never used wood paneling in walls. They've always been azdel on the inside and out since they launched
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thanks Josh! That is what I thought and why I came back to review your video to confirm. Another reason that I am so glad that I bought an E-Pro!!
Have you done a review, or can you review the 2021 Rockwood 2706WS? Would love to see your opinions on that one
Yeah I got you :)
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Hi Josh, the factory tours are the best. I saw in another's TH-cam video ( Rockwood 2022 2509s Small Solar Upgrade) that Ian used 3M VHB dbl stick tape to attach additional solar panels to the roof (14:10 min into video), rather than putting additional holes in the roof with screws thru the roof membrane. Do you have any thoughts on this or have you discussed with any of the manufacturers? My concern is that the 3M VHB permanent type tape is only attached to a membrane that itself is only glued to the rood below...although I do like the idea of less holes in the roof.
I would like to see a video on primarily single axle trailers... I bought a trailer that had load range C tires and 1480 # rated rims.. realized both were under rated for unit specs... called for D rated tires, and I needed 1660# rated rims.. I drove too long not realizing I was taking chances not being up on that like I should have been