Julie-Anne Genter: Why Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch all need light rail | Q+A 2023
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2023
- Green Party transport spokesperson Julie-Anne Genter announces her party’s plan for light rail in New Zealand’s three biggest cities
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Australia built 3 light rails in 6 years. NZ has been resisting light rails for the last 30 years. NZ needs to wake up.
There are now 7 light rail systems in Algeria and one new one on Maritius island in the Indian Ocean. National which models it's policy on the Venezuelan and Argentina car only policy settings and similar destructive economic settings.
We had Jacinda for 6 years. Everything was like KiwiBuild. Talk is cheap, NZ lacks politicians that actually deliver anything. Every NZ, PM is highly aware that afterwards their option is the UM, IMF, a think tank etc.. So the great Twitter sound bites are more important than results to them
@@frederickmiles327 However did Jacinda build over 6 years? Yeah thought so, typical 1 eyed Lefty
Awesome to see Julie-Anne unpack why congestion charging on its own doesn't actually solve anything and ends up disadvantaging people. For congestion charging to work, we'd need better public transport infrastructure.
Thanks Jack and Julie-Anne for your interview on transport of light rail for all three big cities.
A congestion toll should be set based on the demand. The purpose is keep traffic flowing at its maximum but below congested levels. Singapore is best practice where the congestion toll levels are reviewed every 6 months.
Yes to surface rail no to long $20B tunnels.labour was either dreaming or faking this as an option.
Wood is a mutant and his brillcreamed light rail San Francisco level fantasy plans showed a pretender with no intention of implementing the mega project, useful grandiosity of the Dove Myer Robinson. JAG shows a lot of practical sense about the engineering and planning but do people really want to ride trans to Dominion Road, the Mt Roskill Bible belt or Manage. One really needs to plan the tram routes like a Governor of California, Connecticut or Mayor Daley of Chicago. So I prefer a team route up Parnell road, Remuera Road, Ladies Mile, Ellersie and take the team tracks onto the new busway designed for them to Howick and Botany.
Hi Jack
Next time you have a member from the National Party on can you ask them under their Tax policy
If a person is on 45K a year what does he or she get in their pocket per week
And if a person is on 85K a year what do they get per week National are very good at posting on LinkedIn but they never answer any questions that are put to them
They have an online calculator. One stat I remember is that someone earning $55,800 a year with no kids gets a measly $4.15 a week
Although I am NOT among Ms. Genter's political supporters, I respect her control of emotions in this interview, contrary to the recent (late April or early May 2024) parliamentary debate.
Canberra was designed in the early 1900s by which time there were trams and motor vehicles (& horse-drawn carriages) provision was made for wide roads to allow for trams. The light rail in Canberra has mostly been put into the spaces that were intended for trams. Street-level light rail does pose risks to people walking close to these areas (see the videos 'Gold Coast light rail pedestrian near misses' and Sydney light rail near-misses) Sydney, Brisbane and Singapore all have invested or are investing majorly in heavy passenger rail systems (as well as their lighter public transport systems). Jakarta, Seattle and Honolulu are three light rail projects that should be examined for what can be learned from their pluses and minuses that could be applied to NZ.
Melbourne has the best tram network where a lot can be learn't from, in developing good light rail in Auckland and Christchurch not Wellington.
I’m an act voter but (the only) thing I’ll ever agree with the Green Party is that we need more public transport options. Europe works because it’s built around public transport, in America it doesn’t work because it’s built around everyone driving.
If ACT proposed this transport option the Greens would oppose it in parliament out of spite. They have a track record of never crossing the aisle to work with others
That's Waikato and it isn't green, as far as I am aware. I highly dislike highways through our wildlife sanctuaries.
Christchurch is a city that screams lite rail. I'm on board. Don't know if I'd vote green for it though. Undecided voter. Oscillating wildly
Always time for a first ;) The more undecided voters we can get on the green side, the closer we'll get to light rail in Chch.
No need for lite rail. all CC need is BRT or metro bus like Brisbane is working on now. when population reaches 700k then light rail could be an option.
Light rail/trams for Auckland and Christchurch but not Wellington. The $1 to 1.5 billion one light rail route in Wellington is not economical and practical for the route that is being proposed.
Are cycleways designed for decongestion? Kent tce seems to 100 x congestion for the "safety" of 15 cyclists vs 10000 cars per day.
If only we could vote for policies and not just parties/personalities eh? Whoever wins has to implement the policies that were most voted for, not just follow their own ideologies. There are many policies put forward by different parties I like, but no one party encompasses all of them. Often they have another policy which cancels out my vote for them, which is a key reason why the Green Party only ever hits 10% or thereabouts of the vote. Good public transport policy, but too much social engineering nonsense.
Direct democracy is pretty based.
Why does wgtn need light rail to island bay??
Just incredible - JAG should have been transport minister all this time!
Well she interviewed well! Well done😊
But weren't you guys a part of last govt why didn't you do it then. Why every party comes up with these creative areas when they are in opposition
Exactly! this comment
I am NOT on insta. You CANNOT FIND ME THERE in any circumstance. Leave the trees alone, and forget all that "let's plant them" that's for adolescents, focus on green socialism and feminist networks, and I promise next time I will make an exception and vote.
Kiwis need to learn from Indonesian government to leverage on China's construction expertise to build a sky rail. The highest building in the country is under work by China construction so why not join one belt one road to have BYD sky rail built here. If you open eyes and look at Wuhu sky rail systems (the city just had 2 lines opened in last couple of years). That advanced public transportation system is what Auckland needs. Let us be very frank, NZ as a 5 million popultaion, does not have any advantage to build a sky rail efficiently and on time. So just outsource and borrow skills from overseas.
I think a lot of what J-A said re congestion charges and public transport make sense but one thing that bothers me about most politicians is they tend to only talk about more, never less. In this interview J-A talked about more wanting to get more EVs on the road but I think a huge part of reducing emissions and congestion (and therefore improving productivity and mental and physical health) is talking about less (or in this case fewer) cars on the road and more walking, cycling and public transport use. Politicians never talk about us just consuming less! Instead of subsiding car use why don't we sibsidise bikes? - The UK does this
We have to have a cultural shift to get to that - it’s sadly controversial enough as it is to even advocate for additional public transport. I don’t think people will respond well to the idea of ‘less’ cars.
I am like... one year older than you? I've been in politics since... dinosaurs..
Cars continue to kill and seriously injure pedestrians and cyclists. Motorists must pay for protected cycling and pedestrian facilities as they are required as a direct safety action to mitigate the impacts of vehicle speeds.
Cyclists and pedestrians can pay if they take the risk to hang around roads made for cars.
Roads aren't only made for cars, that's the big problem. Cars aren't the only objects on a road. Also, more people using public transport and walking or cycling frees up space for the likes of you to use your car with fewer cars on the road, hence you can get closer to reaching your utopian vision of no one on your road except you! You can continue paying high petrol prices, high parking fees, looking for carparks etc and the rest of us can get where we need to go without frustrated, angry, impatient drivers up our backsides - win win! And, as an aside, EVERYONE pays for roads in the form of rates and other taxes, so thinking RUCs cover the road network shows you don't understand how roads are funded@@francesbrown850
@@francesbrown850if there's no/few alternative paths designed for pedestrians or cyclists, then those pedestrians/cyclists can't avoid the risk of being in an area designed for the car - in many places there's no other option for cyclists or pedestrians
@@francesbrown850 pedestrians and cyclists have the legal right to use public roads. They are not just for cars
@@francesbrown850Lol and there is the issue. Roading infrastructure doesn't belong to car's, it does not belong to drivers because you aren't the only mode that utilises said infrastructure.
And cyclists do in fact pay for roads, local roads are co-funded by Councils via Rates and Central Government via taxes both of which Cyclists contribute to.
Not light rail. Commuter and regional rail pls
- Stormed out off a restaurant because a guest did not agree with her,
- Intimidated a Florist in Wellington because they would not agree with her
- Tried to physically intimidate the a government in Parliament, now suspended
Nasty nasty person, she is
We had trams in Wellington and got rid of them, now they want to bring them back
We don’t have the population to afford light rail,buses in Wellington are a joke
Cycle lanes have made more congestion, and removed car parking all over the city
6 years and no better outcomes time for a change
Light rail and trams are very different, Light Rail is a recent and more modern Hybrid of the former, it utilises tram street level infrastructure whilst being able to achieve the speeds and capacity akin to heavy rail but is more energy efficient and economical. Light Rail also encourages urban intensification along it's corridors which is exactly what is needed in NZ.
Time for a change? What change is that, ripping a highway right through Wellington to the Airport, building more roads does nothing to solve congestion in the long term, it has repeatedly been shown to make congestion worse over time and that's just the beginning of a mountain of issues that come with such an approach.
What we should be doing is investing into Public Transport, improving Wellington's bus network and reliability for example, Give people options.
The cycleways in Wellington aren't well planned in terms of where they are, feeder routes, where they lead to etc.
Car parks are everywhere, that is not a smart nor efficient use of Urban land and cityscapes.
A true and tried approach that helps alleviate congestion is mode-shift combined with better urban planning and mixed use developments, not building more infrastructure for car's.
We are in a cost living crisis and how much per meter will it cost to build light rail
Infrastructure Wellington to island bay
The speed can only be 50 kilometres as this the maximum speed in residential area
There is no money left as labour has wasted it, what about the tradespeople who will never use the light rail @@rp7784
It would be nice if we learned from past mistakes
Let's face the places a joke with lots of pretend and artificial workplaces. For a decade after Te Papa opened, the National Library built and staged exhibits which nobody visited. There was quite an extensive range of suburban libraries and old public council departmental libraries which had 0-20visitors a week, some may less 5 a year.
Wellington had trolley buses until recently, gloriously eccentric contraptions straight out of Fawlty Towers. The whole system was ripped out in 2017 year Zero when Bull ❤English decided to implement the McGillycudfy serious policy agend❤a
She is making stuff up
We're headed increasingly into an era of remote work and in a recession. Both of these things can be clearly see from the number of vacancies in commercial buildings. Planning for light rail is pre-covid thinking. Run a decent bus service for a few years and see how the world changes. Then maybe there will still be room for rail. Right now and maybe forever it is a wasteful solution to a non-problem. New Zealand just doesn't have the population.
It is also rather authoritarian of this lady to declare she wants people out of their cars. She's supposed to be a representative, not an owner.
That is probably true but that doesn't exactly negate the case for public transport via rail, you forget that work commutes aren't the only reason people travel.
And it's also worth noting that vacancies in office space has actually been declining for a few months now, many employers are eager for workers to return to the office.
Light Rail is suitable for Auckland and Christchurch, the population densities to support it are there and they're growing very quickly.
I wouldn't classify congestion as a non problem, what light rail can also accomplish is urban intensification along the corridor it's built in on top of providing choice of commute and help in alleviating congestion along it's traffic flow.
Buses are good, but if you're goal is to move alot of people at once, incentivise investment and Urban development whilst trying to get people out of their cars then buses can only do so much and even then it won't achieve desired outcomes.
Light rail has been successfull in many cities across the world, some with comparable population densities to NZ major cities.
Not Authoritarian at all, they aren't literally forcing you out of your car or pulling you from the driver's seat, she's just saying, we need to start giving people greater choice of commute, to get people out of their cars and off roads onto other modes of transport. And we have to, having a transport system solely reliant on one mode isn't efficient and it's showing with the amount of congestion Auckland and Wellington experience.
Thank you Julie-Anne. I voted Labour in 2020, but in 2023 my vote is for the Greens.
Hell yes.
What a wasted vote.
@@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj They're already in parliament, and a vote for them would help in increasing their majority, so no, not at all. A true wasted vote would be for Top anywhere but in Illam.
@@HenrythePaleoGuylove your content dude
@@ABoxIsMyHome Thanks a bunch! Working on getting a Megalodon video out soon enough to cap off Shar Week. :)
Having Greens talk about anything apart from sheep farts sends shivers down my spine.
You should really blame Tim Grosser for that. Like the cycle ways it was intended at a low cost inoffensive gesture which farmers could offset with a few trees. The latest requirements for dairy farmers seem justified as whatever the actual danage aerial emissions it is quite clear river contamination is unsustainable and monitoring activities poor and unreliable and not really funded or properly staffed. So the new emission charges are a compensating international relations gesture which might possibly be dropped forthe meat and crop sector as more sustainable and having better labor relations
Light rail is a no brainer
Really ???
In a city for sure, every large city I have been in they work well I’m moving large amounts of people around and are actually quite cost affective personally.
Yeah people who promote it have no brains.
The costs are ridiculous.
Tens of billions for basically no impact
To put in each of these main centres, a five mile (8km) double track concrete block laid tram tracks could be very low cost. Theoretically lees than 2 billion forthe three systems. We, JAGs ideas here might be very different on the routes or ideologies, I favour partly routing of historical, tourist and political impact rather than 1930s working class employment commuting routes modelled on pre WW2 NZ and NSW concepts
@frederickmiles327 First of all that is not low cost.
And where the hell, did you get those number from?
The estimates for the light rail projects to the Auckland Airport and the North Shore are each about $30 billion.
Goodbye
Oh goodness. They greens are just bonkers.
Has this woman ever been detained, under the mental health act ???????.
If she ever had I don't think you'd be asking that question lol.
This lady is dreaming. Just a joke
The Green Party and its members know nothing of economics.They think they do but they dont.
Why?
@@ABoxIsMyHome Because he's a bot. You can tell, they have numbers at the end of their username
@@Dubaikiwi truuuu
This women should stick with hugging trees .
Actually this policy would make alot of sense, especially with the Urban Circumstances in Christchurch and Auckland.
@@rp7784 Too bad 2 terms in government the Green achieved non of this. This is all talk for them.
@@redpink9773 in term's of infrastructure there is actually very little a small party can push through within a coalition, especially with a vote count the green's have. They can influence decision making to some degree, offer insight and expertise in specific areas, assist with policy development but they never had the political capital to actually enact such a plan on their own, they would need the support of Labour, who had their own plan's for light rail.
@@rp7784 When James Shaw decided to blackmail Jacinda it was to get $11.7million dollars sent to a private Green school for hyper privileged kids.
So even when the Greens do have leverage , (ethical or otherwise) we see what makes their priority list. This Light-Rail is all talk.
Maybe you really believe that they "influence decision making". But actions speak louder than words and there actions are often corrupt and dishonest
@@rp7784 U reported the response? Sad. Shame you didn't have the same contempt for the $11.7m funnelled to the Private. Green School. Corruption at its best