Hi John, I wanted to take a minute to thank you for all you do. You've been a blessing through this channel, and your witness. I can't imagine the number of lives you've changed through your testimony, sermons, and fellowship. Don't ever let disparaging comments get you down. You are "The man in the arena" on so many levels. I value both your testing and your faith. May God keep you and bless you, and make his face shine upon you! Never forget the lives you've touched!
We are very proud of the result. In development s have tested the Broadhead with concrete aggregate plates . So we had a very high confidence in the performance of the TuffGame in this test!🙂
Those Germans are stepping up there game in the archery division!! That thing looks like a fighter jet. I'm not a fixed blade guy but if i was i would defintly try these first. Seems like one of the best quality broadheads out there. Great video as always John.
Bear Archery makes a similar product using a variable weight system. I bought a package and am tinkering with them now. Thank you for finding these heads and running them through the paces. You have developed a great testing regime. Thanks again
So funny how many super high tech complicated designs there are and this very simple design is all you need. But it sure is fun to try the new hotness designs.
Did fantastic except for the rotation. Wondering if that red groove right on the edge of the bevel hindered rotation. Seems it took some of the bevel surface away.
The red groove doesn’t affect penetration. There are several factors that affect penetration: Thickness, Bevel angle, and Length: Width ratio. This head was not designed to maximize rotation-but rather to maximize penetration with a slight degree of rotation.
S7 is a really interesting choice. It's about the same cost as mid-grade tools steels like A2 and O2, but it achieves extreme compression resistance at the cost of very poor wear resistance. In most cases that low level of wear resistance would mean it will dull exceptionally fast. But then again, a broadhead only needs to make one cut at a time.
I noticed that you talk about your Killer Instinct crossbow if u have not shot the KILLER IN.......... SPEED 425 I know u would love it from 1 deer hunter to another deer hunter love your Broadhead testing videos awesome job 👍👍
Have you replaced the ferrule after shooting into concrete to see if the head still spins good? Would be nice to see if that feature works as advertised
@@LuskArcheryAdventures understand, but this is a little unique. A bonus point was awarded for the replaceable ferrule feature. Just asking if that feature actually works, no additional testing process needed at all.
you forgot to point out what you always do point out with the longer length mechanicals, the long tip went 47 layers into the cardboard, but the larger cutting area of the blades did not.
Well, that’s true to a degree. I usually make that comment and reference to mechanicals that have basically a thick nail for the last inch or inch and a half of their penetration. This head certainly cuts a lot more than those heads do. But also, not as much as those more flared designs. Thanks for the comment.
I would be happy to test those. If someone would like to donate a pack, I will gladly do it. I purchased a good number of the heads I test, but I’ve run out of that budget a while ago.
Looks like a great trad head. The rotation was pretty lacking. Is the Trifecta still the winner for most rotation in a single bevel? Wasn't it 145 degrees or something?
It's a right bevel head coming out of a bow that is most likely spinning the arrow left. Testing shows they don't rotate well that way. Left bevel would rotate a good bit more.
@@SlimPickins_07 I highly doubt you'd see much rotation difference if you matched the bevel and rotation. The force of air causing rotation is nothing compared to the force of the gel causing rotation. Many other right bevel heads, like the Trifecta, have rotated much more.
@@stick__shooter check out a video by Innovative Outdoorsman titled How Fletching spin direction impacts single bevel rotation on impact. It certainly makes a difference.
Well, if their goal was rotation, then they would’ve designed it differently. This head is designed for maximum penetration, with just enough rotation to help breach bone. Rotation is a function of several factors like: blade thickness, Broadhead length, and bevel angle. Those can all be tweaked to either maximize deeper penetration or maximize rotation.
is archery/bohunting big in Germany, or is this meant for other contries? Also, would that hardness score on steel make this more difficult to sharpen? Understanding that would also aid in keeping a sharp edge.
What it says on the website the main driver of resharpening is the wear resistance. Now since it is a medium alloy steel it’s not very wear resistance at all.
I think this head would hold its edge quite effectively. Steel that is used as well as their hardening process are both carefully selected to maximize that. as for sharpening, yes. The harder, the steel and the greater, the impact resistance of that steel then the more difficult it is to sharpen. However, a two blade singlehead is in general, quite easy to sharpen. That blade can be laid flat and be sharpened very effectively.
No. I explained that in the video. It is only there to make it easier to sharpen. There’s not as much surface area to have to worry about. According to the manufacturer, that is the only purpose of them. The red just shows the indentation and looks pretty cool.
Good question. That largely depends on the size of the hogs being hunted and the bow/arrow set up. For hogs under 200 lbs, prefer using a good mech, like a Sevr. For hogs over 200, like using a really durable fixed blade head like an Exodus or so many other great choices. I only really like using a smaller 2 blade fixed for huge animals like Cape Buffalo.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures thats an intetesting take on the cape buffalo. One would think large animal = large sturdy broadhead. Do you mind asking how youve come to this preference? Obviously you know much better than i would, so trying to educate myself on what situations would dictate the use of different broadheads and the reasoning behind those decisions.
Sure! Let me go take out a loan real quick so I can buy a set. 😬😆 I do have one concern, though. What happens when the ferrule breaks leaving the threads in the broadhead? Also, do the weights just rattle around in the ferrule? 🤔
I can tell you that this head is extremely well constructed. There’s no rattling or anything like that. Since I’ve not broken a ferule, I cannot tell you for sure, but where the ferule will break would not affect the threaded portion.
That is the norm. And with good reason, as the broadheads will not loosen upon impact. However in recent years people have noticed that some bows produce a natural left rotation of their arrows. So to maximize that rotation, more people have been asking for left beveled broadheads. But right is still much more popular.
I get that question a lot. I’ve tested hundreds of heads and like a lot of them. I try to hunt with as many different heads as possible-provided they’ve tested very well for me. And there are so many animals, I may like one head for one animal and another for a different animal. So I really don’t have a favorite. That being said, if you look at the list of broadheads that I offer Discount Codes for, those are some of my very favorite heads. I tested those heads and then asked the companies if they would offer a discount code to my viewers.
Yeah. Some of the factors affecting rotation are: Blade thickness, Bevel Angle, and Length:Width ratio. This head is not designed to maximize rotation as much as penetration.
Well, I commented on the penetration in the video. Friction based mediums hinder the penetration of heads with more surface area…and they maximize the penetration of shorter, smaller profile heads. I now try to have a formula to properly assess both extremes.
That’s exactly why the medium defines the test. John said it at the beginning, a medium that stops broadheads through friction tends to slow down 3-1 or 2-1 broadheads much quicker because of surface area however in a more liquid based target such as an animal they have much greater penetration.
@officerfoxtrot3633 it is a very negligible difference, 1" wide 3" long VS a 1" long but 2"+ wide is very little difference on the dag ratio! Go check out Joel Maxfield testing! He shows on many MANY different thing how a 450gr arrow is better than a 650gr 95% of the time! But people follow the Ashby/RanchFairy cult and believe that they are right but intact ashby did his testing with a trad bow not a compound! The 650gr arrow bone breaking threshold was found with a trad bow NOT a compound bow! The bone breaking threshold is much lighter with a compound!!!
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I think you do a good job explaining it. Also, Troy aka Ranch fairy explains it in great detail too. No test is perfect and can precisely imitate real flesh and real life conditions. What I believe you are doing is finding a consistent set of mediums and tests that can approximate how the broadheads compare to each other through those mediums and how they may behave in living flesh. The gel can show the wound channel and opening of mechanicals. The mdf boards show impact with a more resistant medium like ribs. The steel plate shows durability through a tough material. The cinder block shows where a Broadhead may fail on impact with extremely dense bone/rocks, or another object that does not give much when impacted. The tests for sharpness and edge retention just show what to expect from the factory and the flight shows what the Broadhead is capable of in flight.
@@tylerchubb3876 Well first of all the type of bow has nothing to do with the Penetration in an animal. It is the arrow that penetrates. The Maxwell test was explained later on form the Rocketman, since Maxwell did not explain his results but concluded "this is what happens in the real world". And the rocketman showed there is a clear relation to speed of the arrow when hitting a foam type target, because it is constant dry friction. But, these test do not correlate with the real hunting situation at all, since an animal body only offers "liquid based viscose friction" making the arrows path through not stuck after 6 inches.
Hello, it is true that our Broadhead is not cheap, but this Broadhead is very durable and will certainly serve you well for a long time! A real working Broadhead
Hi John, I wanted to take a minute to thank you for all you do. You've been a blessing through this channel, and your witness. I can't imagine the number of lives you've changed through your testimony, sermons, and fellowship. Don't ever let disparaging comments get you down. You are "The man in the arena" on so many levels. I value both your testing and your faith. May God keep you and bless you, and make his face shine upon you! Never forget the lives you've touched!
Well that is so encouraging for you to share. Thank you brother 🙏🙏
WOW! The result of the cinder block shot was very impressive, John.
Yes indeed.
We are very proud of the result. In development s have tested the Broadhead with concrete aggregate plates . So we had a very high confidence in the performance of the TuffGame in this test!🙂
Those Germans are stepping up there game in the archery division!! That thing looks like a fighter jet. I'm not a fixed blade guy but if i was i would defintly try these first. Seems like one of the best quality broadheads out there. Great video as always John.
Well said.
Bear Archery makes a similar product using a variable weight system. I bought a package and am tinkering with them now. Thank you for finding these heads and running them through the paces. You have developed a great testing regime. Thanks again
Thank you!
Solid looking head Mr Lusk. Great review and thank you for a thorough test on this head. Pretty impressive
Thanks brother.
Well done John. Great commentary imho. Keep up the good work. Dozier
God Bless!
Thank you brother
I appreciate the explanation in the difference in penetration mediums and the broadhead geometry's effect on penetration
Thank you. It’s hard to fully comprehend, let alone explain that and to come up with a way to consistently reward a head for such a design.
So funny how many super high tech complicated designs there are and this very simple design is all you need. But it sure is fun to try the new hotness designs.
Haha. So true.
definitely a winner
Yep
Great video. Cool head!
Thanks. Yeah, I agree
Impressive
Yep
That’s a great fixed head. I’d definitely run that head for elk. The weight modularity is a great design feature.
Yes sir
Build quality alone says it all
Yeah.
Did fantastic except for the rotation. Wondering if that red groove right on the edge of the bevel hindered rotation. Seems it took some of the bevel surface away.
The red groove doesn’t affect penetration. There are several factors that affect penetration: Thickness, Bevel angle, and Length: Width ratio.
This head was not designed to maximize rotation-but rather to maximize penetration with a slight degree of rotation.
S7 is a really interesting choice. It's about the same cost as mid-grade tools steels like A2 and O2, but it achieves extreme compression resistance at the cost of very poor wear resistance. In most cases that low level of wear resistance would mean it will dull exceptionally fast. But then again, a broadhead only needs to make one cut at a time.
Thanks for sharing that.
looks like i found my new head. Especially as i live in Europe so they'll be easy to get .
Hello, we would be delighted to welcome you as a customer!
Nice
I noticed that you talk about your Killer Instinct crossbow if u have not shot the KILLER IN.......... SPEED 425 I know u would love it from 1 deer hunter to another deer hunter love your Broadhead testing videos awesome job 👍👍
Thank you. This is the first year I’ve even shot crossbows :) I’m sure I’ll be trying out other bows in the future.
That looks like an awesome head for a trad shooter
Yep.
I made a few S7 knives.. learned a lot about it. It's what you might use in a high quality pry bar. It's F'in TOUGH steel.
Yep. Very high Charpy score. Thanks for sharing that.
It is not S7 it is chipper steel!
High toughness, high hardness 61HRC and corrosion resistance what S7 doesn’t have at all!
Maybe Chris Bee 🐝 should have watched some of your broadhead test🎉😂❤
:)
Have you replaced the ferrule after shooting into concrete to see if the head still spins good? Would be nice to see if that feature works as advertised
I do not replace the ferrules or the blades during any of my testing processes.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures understand, but this is a little unique. A bonus point was awarded for the replaceable ferrule feature. Just asking if that feature actually works, no additional testing process needed at all.
you forgot to point out what you always do point out with the longer length mechanicals, the long tip went 47 layers into the cardboard, but the larger cutting area of the blades did not.
Well, that’s true to a degree. I usually make that comment and reference to mechanicals that have basically a thick nail for the last inch or inch and a half of their penetration. This head certainly cuts a lot more than those heads do. But also, not as much as those more flared designs. Thanks for the comment.
Question have you ever done the center point dead point heads?
I’ve not.
Whoa Nelly!!
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Pretty expensive but good quality 🇨🇦
Yep.
Good broadhead
Yep
Great reviews r we going to get a ranch fairy review plz
I would be happy to test those. If someone would like to donate a pack, I will gladly do it. I purchased a good number of the heads I test, but I’ve run out of that budget a while ago.
Looks like a great trad head. The rotation was pretty lacking. Is the Trifecta still the winner for most rotation in a single bevel? Wasn't it 145 degrees or something?
It's a right bevel head coming out of a bow that is most likely spinning the arrow left. Testing shows they don't rotate well that way. Left bevel would rotate a good bit more.
@@SlimPickins_07 I highly doubt you'd see much rotation difference if you matched the bevel and rotation. The force of air causing rotation is nothing compared to the force of the gel causing rotation. Many other right bevel heads, like the Trifecta, have rotated much more.
@@stick__shooter check out a video by Innovative Outdoorsman titled How Fletching spin direction impacts single bevel rotation on impact. It certainly makes a difference.
Well, if their goal was rotation, then they would’ve designed it differently. This head is designed for maximum penetration, with just enough rotation to help breach bone. Rotation is a function of several factors like: blade thickness, Broadhead length, and bevel angle. Those can all be tweaked to either maximize deeper penetration or maximize rotation.
is archery/bohunting big in Germany, or is this meant for other contries?
Also, would that hardness score on steel make this more difficult to sharpen? Understanding that would also aid in keeping a sharp edge.
What it says on the website the main driver of resharpening is the wear resistance. Now since it is a medium alloy steel it’s not very wear resistance at all.
I think this head would hold its edge quite effectively. Steel that is used as well as their hardening process are both carefully selected to maximize that. as for sharpening, yes. The harder, the steel and the greater, the impact resistance of that steel then the more difficult it is to sharpen. However, a two blade singlehead is in general, quite easy to sharpen. That blade can be laid flat and be sharpened very effectively.
John, Do you think the red scooped out line is to aid in flight and penetration?
No. I explained that in the video. It is only there to make it easier to sharpen. There’s not as much surface area to have to worry about. According to the manufacturer, that is the only purpose of them. The red just shows the indentation and looks pretty cool.
Would you recommend wider or narrower cutting diameter for tough shouldered animals such as hogs?
Good question. That largely depends on the size of the hogs being hunted and the bow/arrow set up. For hogs under 200 lbs, prefer using a good mech, like a Sevr. For hogs over 200, like using a really durable fixed blade head like an Exodus or so many other great choices. I only really like using a smaller 2 blade fixed for huge animals like Cape Buffalo.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures thats an intetesting take on the cape buffalo. One would think large animal = large sturdy broadhead. Do you mind asking how youve come to this preference? Obviously you know much better than i would, so trying to educate myself on what situations would dictate the use of different broadheads and the reasoning behind those decisions.
Don't mean to knit pick but it's the wrong name for the flight test at 7:03 but outstanding video love all your work
Sorry about that. Sometimes I can catch my mistakes and other times I cannot.
Sure! Let me go take out a loan real quick so I can buy a set. 😬😆 I do have one concern, though. What happens when the ferrule breaks leaving the threads in the broadhead? Also, do the weights just rattle around in the ferrule? 🤔
I can tell you that this head is extremely well constructed. There’s no rattling or anything like that. Since I’ve not broken a ferule, I cannot tell you for sure, but where the ferule will break would not affect the threaded portion.
It’s seems as though most single-bevel blades are machined for rightward rotation. Is that kind of the status quo?
It is the most common fletching rotation so they matched it.
That is the norm. And with good reason, as the broadheads will not loosen upon impact. However in recent years people have noticed that some bows produce a natural left rotation of their arrows. So to maximize that rotation, more people have been asking for left beveled broadheads. But right is still much more popular.
So it's basically the same as a glue on head with an adapter? or like the new Bear Razorhead.
I suppose there’s similarities… but also quite a few other nuances.
What’s your favorite head and what will you be using this season?
I get that question a lot. I’ve tested hundreds of heads and like a lot of them. I try to hunt with as many different heads as possible-provided they’ve tested very well for me. And there are so many animals, I may like one head for one animal and another for a different animal. So I really don’t have a favorite.
That being said, if you look at the list of broadheads that I offer Discount Codes for, those are some of my very favorite heads. I tested those heads and then asked the companies if they would offer a discount code to my viewers.
I was surprised at the lack of rotation
Yeah. Some of the factors affecting rotation are: Blade thickness, Bevel Angle, and Length:Width ratio. This head is not designed to maximize rotation as much as penetration.
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This Broadhead will require a heavy shaft. I feel like we should have seen more penetration as far as the gel block and cardboard.
It has a large surface area in which the gel kind of grabs, won't get a deep penetration in gel
Well, I commented on the penetration in the video. Friction based mediums hinder the penetration of heads with more surface area…and they maximize the penetration of shorter, smaller profile heads. I now try to have a formula to properly assess both extremes.
Cost per head?
$57.33
@@brentbarnetthunting geez oh petes man! some folks think spending more money on equipment will make them a better hunter. i don't see that happening.
@@yourmomma2995 I hear you there. This year I’m using Exact Archery broadheads. $7.60 per head and rated one of Lusk’s best performing heads.
I always list the cost per head at the end of every video and in the video description.
That's gonna pass through any animal on earth. Blue whale included lol
Haha
That's the way it should be! ;)
I find it extremely funny how with a small cut and extreme amount of extra weight and it still didn't penetrate more than a 2" mechanical broadhead!!!
That’s exactly why the medium defines the test. John said it at the beginning, a medium that stops broadheads through friction tends to slow down 3-1 or 2-1 broadheads much quicker because of surface area however in a more liquid based target such as an animal they have much greater penetration.
@officerfoxtrot3633 it is a very negligible difference, 1" wide 3" long VS a 1" long but 2"+ wide is very little difference on the dag ratio!
Go check out Joel Maxfield testing! He shows on many MANY different thing how a 450gr arrow is better than a 650gr 95% of the time!
But people follow the Ashby/RanchFairy cult and believe that they are right but intact ashby did his testing with a trad bow not a compound! The 650gr arrow bone breaking threshold was found with a trad bow NOT a compound bow! The bone breaking threshold is much lighter with a compound!!!
I see some of the responses-and yes, I tried to comment on that very issue within the video. I’ll talk more about that in the future.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I think you do a good job explaining it. Also, Troy aka Ranch fairy explains it in great detail too.
No test is perfect and can precisely imitate real flesh and real life conditions.
What I believe you are doing is finding a consistent set of mediums and tests that can approximate how the broadheads compare to each other through those mediums and how they may behave in living flesh.
The gel can show the wound channel and opening of mechanicals. The mdf boards show impact with a more resistant medium like ribs. The steel plate shows durability through a tough material. The cinder block shows where a Broadhead may fail on impact with extremely dense bone/rocks, or another object that does not give much when impacted. The tests for sharpness and edge retention just show what to expect from the factory and the flight shows what the Broadhead is capable of in flight.
@@tylerchubb3876 Well first of all the type of bow has nothing to do with the Penetration in an animal. It is the arrow that penetrates. The Maxwell test was explained later on form the Rocketman, since Maxwell did not explain his results but concluded "this is what happens in the real world". And the rocketman showed there is a clear relation to speed of the arrow when hitting a foam type target, because it is constant dry friction. But, these test do not correlate with the real hunting situation at all, since an animal body only offers "liquid based viscose friction" making the arrows path through not stuck after 6 inches.
I wonder how it compares to rocket meat seeker 3blade 2” 😊
:) Quite a different broadhead
WOW! $57/Head !!
Yeah; not for everyone’s budget. But when you hold these and see the quality of the steel craftsmanship, you don’t wonder where your money went.
Hello, it is true that our Broadhead is not cheap, but this Broadhead is very durable and will certainly serve you well for a long time! A real working Broadhead
Leave it to the Germans....
:)