I've actually had to work taking care of a couple dozen macaques, and they also bare their teeth as a sign of aggression. Let me be clear: if that chimp was smiling like that as a sign of aggression, somebody would have very likely been mauled the moment they approached to retrieve the baby. Primates like that are quick to violence when they are like that unless you back off slowly while making the appropriate submissive expression (head tilted slightly whilst moving your lips like you are making a popping sound) and not looking at them directly (and even then they can still end up charging you). What's more likely, given the context of the chimp being raised by humans and chimps generally being quite intelligent, is that the chimp in question has picked up on how humans use smiles and, like a child learning to speak, mimicked it's "parents" in the application thereof. The problem comes in situations where the chimp legitimately feels stressed and/or threatened as people generally wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the learned "I'm happy" smile and the instinctive "Back off now" smile.
She was trying to replace her daughter that died in an accident. That whole situation was beyond screwed up. Her husband practically begged her to re-home Travis.
@@CrewmateWeiWuxian-t8d I guess because a baby chimp is more "human like" than a dog, and since they raised Travis so young it really got stuck in their brains that he was their kid. As much as I love animals, treating a non-human animal as a human almost never ends well.
Its kind of makes sense that many ancient religions view their gods less like protectors and more like landlords to be respected and feared instead of to be loved out of their good nature.
@@leonardhollsten8145 that or Famine, famine and climate change can be very devestating to Ancient civilisations which explains why some civs have very extreme religious beliefs like the Aztecs. Though I disagree on the earthquake and Tidal thing as it depends sometimes it instead increases belief instead and people blame institutions.
The two scariest things about the Travis incident, at least for me: 1. You can HEAR Travis in the 911 call... made worse by the operator thinking it was a prank and not taking it seriously at first. 2. If it wasn't for her forgetting the attack, the last visual memory Nash would ever have would have been an enraged chimpanzee tearing her apart.
With all due respect, that lady was asking for it, she had an emotionally abusive, unhealthy relationship with a fckn chimpanzee. I dont feel strongly positive about that second point there. Fck around and find out.
1. was the operator 100% traumatized upon learning the truth? 2. I'm not sure if that's a blessing or not, completely forgetting that the animal you loved so much tried to kill you. (I'll stick to cats, though)
@NinjaFlibble Well they had to remove her eyes, so basically if she hadn't forgotten, the last thing she would have seen for the rest of her life would've been what was equivalent to her own son, tearing her face apart. I'd consider forgetting a blessing, but in most cases where people forget, they seem to wish they hadn't. Then again, I've never had my face ripped off so I can't talk.
It's not exactly forgetting the event, but more of repressing it. Think about it: this event was so awful, so traumatizing and hellish, most people wouldn't be able to process what happened entirely. So, the mind subconsciously takes that painful memory and kind of pushes it down, locking it away. That memory is still in there somewhere, it's just not going to be actively remembered because it would cause too much pain for the individual. Basically your mind knows it cannot handle re-living those events at the moment and hides it away. Some people end up remembering repressed memories after some time, some never do. In her case, I would see repressing a chimpanzee attack as a good thing. If that happened to me, I'd never want to remember what torturous agony I was put through.
The whole "the animals didn't go rogue, they went animal" always reminds me of "the water isn't 'shark-infested', that's their home. It's human infested."
Jason casually having a better understanding of what chimps are capable of than any of the weirdos who claimed to handle the animals is pretty telling.
People so badly want to think of animals as their friends or pretend they can understand them on this really deep level that they just ignore the facts.
Like the guy that claimed to "understand" bears.....they ate him.....and his GF. There's also a guy that lives with a "wild" (but on a reservation) wolf pack...there'll be a somewhat empty funeral for him too I suspect.
That being said, the rangers did what they had to do: once a bear gets the chance to eat a person, it starts thinking that maybe long pork cutlet isn’t such a bad option to have on the menu. And that’s not something you can risk the Bear continuing with.
@@spindash64 Huntings humans always seems like more trouble than it's worth until they try it and then they find it's actually not that hard... Until they get executed anyway, but they can't understand that's coming for them. Seems like the pattern for all predators.
Unlike the bear guy, Steve Irwin always had security and emergency support nearby. Yes, he too believed he can handle animals safely. But he always respected their danger capabilities. Which makes it only more tragic that he did pass away.
And the sad thing is, I can hear him saying something like "sorry there big guy, didn't mean to startle you" to the stingray that killed him. He understood the risks and took them anyway with as much safety as possible because he wanted to help people learn about animals and become passionate. Yet he still got got. If that's not enough to make you weary around wild animals, I don't think anything will
It's crazy that Jason Coates is the only one in these stories who made the sensible decisions yet he's the only one that got charged and served jail time.
People really do be jumping into tiger exhibits and suing (successfully) zoos after getting mauled, but Jason defends himself and his dog from unprovoked attack and gets slammed.
I mean, most of the people in this story were either mauled to death or are so badly injured they might as well be dead So it's not like they got away with a slap on the wrist while Jason went to jail
@@DarkDoughnutsVids I more meant the plethora of other people outside of this video (such as the teacher that tried to commit suicide via polar bear, or the boys that taunted Tatiana the Tiger into killing/mauling them and then suing the zoo). A few of the people here who ere mauled by their own animals really did pay the price in full already.
I think Travis' owner was gonna serve time but she died either before the trial or sentencing idk. All I remember is she passed away not long after the attack
@@yeezoyoutube I don't know if I should thank you for helping remove the unsettling feeling I have in me right now or something 😭 When I tell you I wheezed at this comment
As psychology student I can tell you, raising a chimp as a human never ends well developmentally seeking. Just look at the problems Lucy had when returned to her own kind.
@@airplanes_aren.t_real Ultimately she was killed by poachers, but the thing Ian is mentioning is that she was completely unable to properly integrate into an ape society.
Worst part about the Travis the Chimp incident? Sandra's husband wanted Travis to go to a chimp sanctuary should anything terrible happen to him. After her husband died, Sandra basically went against his wishes because "Travis was all she had".
If you want to be really mad, look up the chimpanzee Lucy, who some 1960s "scientists" literally raised as if she were their human daughter. They taught her to dress herself, make tea, use silverware and furniture. When she became sexually mature, her psychotherapist "father" gave her a playgirl magazine to see if she was aroused by human men (she was). He then tried to introduce her to a male chimp, and she was terrified because she'd never met another chimp before. When she turned 12 and was too strong and dangerous to continue living with them, they just took her to a preserve in Gambia. Even though the people working there said she was not a good fit for rehabilitation and instead should go to a chimp retirement home where she could safely continue to live like she had all her life with all the food, magazines, toys, and tea that she was used to (but maybe not the gin and "alone time" with porn mags and a vacuum cleaner). But her "parents" left her there and returned to the US after a few weeks, and her "dad" published a book about the experiment of raising her that same year that they abandoned her. It was a university student that stayed at the center for years to try and help her assimilate. She never did. She never showed attraction to the male chimps or got a mate. She didn’t want anything to do with the other chimps and was clearly depressed. She refused to eat and would sign "hurt" to the student. It took almost a decade for her to actually begin to integrate with the chimps. A year after she did finally start to live with them, her dead body was found. The student thinks it may have been poachers that killed her (since her hands were missing). If it was, she would have probably just walked right up to them to say hello.
That's upsetting. And really disturbing. Why would these scientists POSSIBLY be interested in her reaction to p*rn? Makes me wonder if that was the end of the perverted experiments on her...😬
That’s so messed up.. but my question is how did she become conditioned to be aroused by human men and NOT chimp men.. like you would’ve thought her natural biological thought process would’ve taken over
@@rawfermews4186 yeah, that was a huge surprise. I guess it may be similar to when imprinted birds will try to court their handler and don't want to mate with their own species. There's biological processes that happen when animals are infants that shape how they behave when adults. She was raised by humans and had literally never seen another chimp before. If something as different to humans as a falcon can think it should court people instead of birds, it follows that an ape would too. And it makes the story even sadder.
Moral of the story: "Chimpanzee" and "pet" should never belong in the same sentence unless this sentence warns against keeping these violent primates as pets.
That last story made me kinda mad. Dude served jail time and missed the birth of his kid for doing what literally any rational person would have done. Man is a hero in my book
Really makes you wonder how much tax revenue the relevant authorities were collecting from Chimp Party in what should have been an open and shut case of self-defense/defense-of-other.
I don't get why we're allowed to kill animals in the wild and not kill the humans that exploit them in urban areas , both bring great danger to humans but the ones in the wild rarely hurt anyone unless you trespass onto their habitats.
People can make all the laws they want, but they can't change the laws of physics of the Universe. They can't change the principles of causality. And the laws of causality of my Universe say: "You fuck with my dog, you're fucked". Chimps or not. Not even my responsibility, really.
@@Redz_Wrld you will understand this comment if you watched the movie, I don't want to spoil but if you don't care about being spoiled then basically they tried to release a horse named Lucky into the alien so that the alien would eat the horse (since the alien seem to really love horses) but the horse said Nuh Uh by just standing there doing nothing and instead it was the human who served as food for the alien
Sir, i'm a wildlife vet and ethologist working for the World Animal Protection and the UNESCO biospheres and my colleagues and myself are all talking about how professional, mature and honest the way you present things is . You have our sincere consideration.
I feel so bad for Travis. What a miserable life. No other chimps near him, no real socializing, fed junk food, denied him the right to live like a normal chimp. It WAS inevitable and it WAS caused by Sandy. Took years of mistreatment that came to a brutal head. I’m so glad Charla survived.
@@ryobaaishi9968 It's not depression - its loss of contact with reality. That is what happens when you live outside nature. Ask ANY AAANY real farmer that takes care of his livestock and has to kill them, every one that hasn't got machinery to help him will tell you about him, his grandpa or someone who was attacked by a perfectly happy animal being treated normally. Especially "fun" stories are with cows and bulls. Yeah, that sht isn't nice. You need to understand that animals are animals. Hell, watch worst dog attacks and you'll see a dog behaving like he's ancestors did - like a wolf. And this comes from a person who used to train dogs, and LOVE them. But IF you want to have a happy animal, respect them. For dogs it usually means walk them as a leader of the pack twice a day, make them have a job(ball fetching or something, whatever is appropriate) and have quality interaction with them. For wild animals it means LET THEM BE WILD ANIMALS!!!!! I THE WILD!!!! Yeeez, people are retards....poor animals...and honestly, poor people who are retards.... :/ This is a classic "nobody wins" situation.
Just because treating something like a child brings a human comfort doesn’t mean it’s good for the animal. It never is. They’re individuals and not children. Sadly this is how we humans are evolved to express love and animals seem to fall into a weird spot for us emotionally as we seem to liken them with children, wether we are aware of it or not.
My dad actually hunted around the area where Timothy camped at...Not only did Timothy set his camp up on a bear trail, he set it up near a narrow part of a river, where the biggest and oldest bears would go to catch fish, since it was easier than fishing on a wider area of the river. That, and he chose a time of year where both berries and salmon were scarce...
I hate that they put the bear down too because ???? It’s in the WILD?? I don’t agree with it at zoos either but i can SEE since zoos are really for people to look at them and crap but this man literally went into bear habitat at the worst time and bears have to eat. You don’t see other animals putting humans down for killing animals for food? I’m not saying yannoe fuck this man and his girl but what’s done is done. The animal shouldn’t be merked because someone thinks they’re not like other people and can go into dangerous territory. If I purposely build my house on a faultline and an earthquake occurs and breaks my house should I blow up the earth? No. It’s technically my fault.
@@kiki13451 I do agree they shouldn't have to put down the bear for being a bear, but it was probably for safety. If that bear was able to live on it'd probably continue to hunt humans if given the chance. In the end the bear was just hungry and Timothy was the idiot that basically knowingly became a bears toothpick
@@Lechgang actually his girlfriend was wearing some kind of perfume which was known to make bears go properly nuts, not saying if it weren't for that they would still be alive but it really didn't help.
The Moe story always makes me feel so sad for Moe. He was so scared, he was in freeze mode. They tried to do what was best for him, even kept visiting him. But Moe knew only humans and never knew chimp culture or witnessed their cruelty. Poor ape, he was traumatized that day too. 😢😔😣
That’s why you should never take wild animals outside their habitat place ,they took them out of Tanzania and brought it to the US ,that was already one mistake ,they also treating him like a human instead of an animal ,they are wild animals not pets .
Werner Hertzog's documentary on Treadwell, called Grizzly Man, is an excellent expansion on that story. It shows plenty of his impressively intimate footage he was able to capture on his camps, whilst interviewing people with more relevant knowledge to explain why his approach was, to be charitable, not the wisest.
I didn't know Suzie was Travis's mother. That adds a whole new layer of tragedy to these stories. They should have been living in the wild together, or at the very least a real sanctuary, and instead.... heartbreaking.
@@pisces2569 Unfortunately that's not surprising with wild animals in those types of settings. The breeders and handlers do it to start human imprinting on the babies. Another example is that Joe Exotic would separate tiger cubs from their mothers shortly after being born (which is another reason to not like seeing wild animals as pets).
Fun Fact about starving bears, they will devour their own kids to preserve themselves and Timothy knew they were killing their babies and still didn't take that as a hint to skedadle.
@@GottaCatchAGrip In the sense that the irony of someone who claimed to know bears ignored all warning signs because of his ego and delusion he bought into of his special connection to them. Also fun facts aren't generally fun.
I used to be a zookeeper, just reptiles and birds so no big mammals, but there's still a message that gets drilled into every new keeper: No matter how much you love the animal and no matter how much it seems to love you back, never turn your back on it
The idea of a tiger with the zoomies is downright terrifying when my own little alley cat causes me enough chaos when he gets playful with how he shreds and bites my fingers and toes when I turn around. People are nuts to want the big wild animals.
Makes sense. Even us humans are nonetheless still a species of animal, and thus creatures of instinct first, even if we have gotten pretty good at not always acting on them due to our understanding of moral concepts and rationality. So, if we are still susceptible sometimes to lash out towards even perceived threats to our safety that aren't actually there, or to predate on a perceived vulnerability we think can be exploited to benefit us, then of course other animals can and will do the same.
The birthday cake incident was so horrific. Chewed his fingers and genitals off, ripped his face off all that. People think it's made up when I tell that story because Rogan talked about it. This story and Charlotte nash the reason I don't believe in keeping wild animals in suburbs. This content is top tier. Also I don't know what you do to your videos to make them fit the screen so big but it's fucking awesome I wish everyone would do it.
The last one was so upsetting. Jason and his friends were attacked by three chimpanzees and yet he was charged for doing what I and honestly any person would do. Absolutely mind boggling.
He literally saved the lives of himself, his friends, and his dog by ending the life of a single chimpanzee out of the three that were attacking them. And yet he’s the bad guy in this somehow. Like he said, it takes a special kinda stupid to make PETA look like the good guys.
Yeah if he didn't defend himself and the vhimps attacked him then they will all die and the chimps will be put down so I think its a better idea to just shoot the monkeys
Ngl I feel bad for Moe. Even though he was a chimp and therefore COULD kill his owner, he actually got a more healthy treatment and still loved what are basically his parents, so seeing them getting gored by his own kind and being unable to do anything is sad.
I was at a zoo with a large, enclosed habitat with several chimpanzees. Two were fighting & I asked a zoo keeper standing next to me what happens if one gets hurt. She said ‘They can tear the arms off a person, so unless it’s life threatening, we don’t go in there.” …Fair enough.
remember a zookeeper saying something similar when i went on a trip to one. She says that out of all the animals on the park 'you dont mess with chimps'. she says any other anima she'll happily handle with but chimps is the one animal she'd refuse to go into the enclosure with and doesnt understand why others would do so.
That reminds me, I forget which zoo I was at, but they were feeding the Chimpanzees and the zookeeper was going along the outside of the enclosure and putting food through the bars and kept walking. That seemed smart to me since not only was the food not all in one place for them to fight over, but when the chimps came running over to see what was put in, she wasn't anywhere near it when they got there. And even then there were some smart ones who seemed ready to take it right out of her hand by going ahead on the route. Zookeepers are smart to keep as much distance as they can from these guys.
lol, that’s a chimp Remind me of that time I watched a short clip that 2 silverbacks were fighting and the people there was yelling and try to cancel the zoo keeper for not jump in there to stop them What he’s gonna do then 😂😂
The thought of keeping primates as a pet or be in close contact with one unnerves me and maybe for a good reason. Mostly its because they have a resemblance to us but with more hair and solve problems better than some humans. "Makes a special kind of people to make Peta the good guy" mate that's gold.
Legit the only possible way an ape could be a pet is by intensive selective breeding like the Russians did with foxes. You canNOT plop a totally wild animal in a home and say it's a pet.
@@DinnerForkTongue Donno, maybe but the more intelligence an animal has, the more you have to interact with it and give it enough enrichment. I have two huskies and their more than enough as it can be like having two toddlers in the house.
You're right to be unnerved. Chimpanzees are some of the most uniquely monstrous animals in nature; they are intelligent enough to understand cruelty, and actively use it to cow "lower ranked" chimps and especially their females. They're a lot like us, but with less restraint and quieter consciences.
One of the worst crimes against an animal performer I've ever heard of is the sad tale of Sultan, the tiger that played Ra, the black tiger from the movie Beastmaster. Sultan was actually a plain old regular vanilla box-standard tiger, but the filmmakers wanted him to look more unique, or I guess you could say "cooler" so they dyed the big cat actor black. Wouldn't be so bad except the dye they used was toxic and caused the big cat's health to deteriorate until he passed away two years later... Moral of the story: 1. Hollywood executives are pure evil. 2. If you want a tiger in your movie, don't mess with the fur colour! The fact it's a tiger commands respect enough!
@@cjtheprop-maker There was CGI, but it was in its infancy. It was used just to experiment with animation. Like how the guy said down below, Pixar was around but their animation is still crude in comparison nowadays. Let's not forget Industrial Light & Magic, that was created by George Lucas to push the animation of digital effects further. It was used sparingly in certain films like Young Sherlock Holmes, The Abyss and several others.
The girlfriend in the Grizzly Man death (Amy Huegenard) didn’t “just scream,” and she stayed with him while he was being attacked despite him yelling at her to leave and try to escape. She likely used a frying pan to try beat the bear off her boyfriend (there were sounds they thought were a frying pan being hit swing around, but as it’s just audio, it’s unclear, but probably not the guy being mauled by a underfed grizzly). She easily could have choose to run as her boyfriend told her to do, but stayed and attempted to help get him away from the bear, and was killed as well.
Right. I always saw it as humans basically trying to survive in the past. Rather than characterized antagonists, the dinosaurs are glorified environmental hazards. Humans didn't exist at the same time as dinosaurs for a reason. Except with the Spinosaurus. That thing went so far out of its way to run everyone's shit. I think they forgot to model his black AFs during production.
For those who misunderstood, Moe didn't attack his owner. Other chimps did. Poor Moe was also traumatized after seeing what other chimpanzees did to Davis
Saddest part is, after the attack, moe was transferred to another place, and disappeared never to be seen again. He was thought to have escaped, but it would've been likely for him to be found or return to the facility. He was never found.
That movie NOPE haunts me. The chimp stuff, the psychopath aging child star, the horse sacrifices… I guess it’s probably the best horror movie I’ve ever seen. But it wounded me.
My aunt was a showgirl in Vegas till the early 80s. She became very close to Sigfried and Roy because she had no fear and would pet the tigers like they were poodles. She says they loved their tigers, even the inbred ones that were too stunted to be trained. Of all the crazy stuff she experinced in those years she said she felt safer hanging with Sigfried and Roy's tigers than the guys in the casinos.
@@DiamondPugs I do think he did the right thing in that situation. Sure, he lied a lot, but it was to protect something that could have easily killed him right then and there if it wanted to. Plus, I think he understood that the tiger wasn't really at fault.
An additional note to this already horrific story. Travis was given a dose of anti-depressants by his caregiver, Sandra, without a doctor's/vet's evaluation. So Sandra just gave doses based off of her own beliefs on what she thought he needed. It's speculated that the attack on Sandra's friend, Charla Nash, was caused by Travis having heavy, negative side effect to the meds, causing hysteria. Sandra was negligent and had the choice to call for professional help when Travis was having his breakdown. Instead, she called Charla to help her control Travis. Sad fact, supposedly Charla often felt uneasy around Travis and only helped as much as she did over the years to support her friend, Sandra. Charla Nash lost both her eyes and cannot see anymore. The eyes you see in her most recent photos are glass eyeballs. If you listen to the 911 call when this attack was occurring, it was incredibly haunting. The screams of Charla in the background while Sandra was losing it over the phone. Rest in peace to Travis and a long, peaceful life for Charla. I pray that no one ever does what Sandra does, ever again.
She had beyond forgot she was dealing with a wild animal and had completely personified him into a, well, person. And ignored the signs of adoescents they knew and were warned about over and over again. She was essentially mentally ill and it was a grieving teenage chimp on xanax. Just sad all around.
It's just so tragic, because there were so many points where Sandra could have prevented it from happening, but she just didn't, and Charla and Travis paid the price.
Its perfectly possible that the meds had nothing to do with the attack, and Travis decided he didnt like this person for whatever reason. Maybe she forgot to say hi once. I only say this to discourage people from having pet chimps, even if they wont be drugging them. Their capacity for violence is not something you want to roll the dice on.
You hit the nail on the head about Travis being the ultimate victim. I'm pretty desensitized to a lot of things, but this story always hits my emotions because he was like a giant kid. He wasn't happy and did what animals do and he, as well as his victim, paid the price. It's just sad story all around.
I don't feel bad for him, even when free in the wild chimps still manage to offend and disgust me. Yes it would be better if he was free in the wild but at the same time either way he'd end up sucking.
One of the many upsetting points in here was that officer(s) were denied therapy. Had it been a human who had done those things, they totally would’ve been provided counseling. Another round of applause for our healthcare system. I can’t even begin to imagine the PTSD from that, nor do I want to.
It is messed up, but they also could've probably avoided the necessity for therapy if they had done something about the reported aggression of Travis before then. Or when the law was passed that you can't own a wild animal over a certain weight limit, and they just didn't do anything about Travis being over 200lbs.
Considering Suzie had attacked humans, or tried to, wouldn't she have been put down anyway if Jason hadn't shot her? Either way, I side with Jason. Wild animal threatening my pet baby? Yeah, it's going down same as if it threatened me. I'm surprised he didn't counter sue Chimp Party for emotional trauma; one would think Jason would have an easy win there!
You would think that Jason would have been in the right since Suzie was attacking him and his family, even if she was tranquillized, chimps have black air force energy and she was probably still going
@@perhaps1131 Something tells me that her being tranquilized was a false claim by Chimp Party so they could have grounds for legal action, otherwise, they'd be shit outta luck and outta money.
Plus he was 18 and in a high stress situation where he, his friends, and his dog were being attacked by not one not two but *THREE* 250 lb wild animals whether or not he knew it was tranked doesn't matter it was a high stress panicked situation where of course the terrified and likely traumatized teenager was going to shoot at the aggressors
Chimp Party, probably much like travis' family, likely had a lot of social capital with the locals, and not to mention probably money to operate as they did. those two combine to create a pretty definitive way for people to get away with almost anything.
It's because America's justice system is heavily favored towards corporate interests, and justice more often than not simply bends for those with the highest amount of money. You people have no rights. The US is an oligarchy. Enjoy.
Honestly, I feel bad for both the bear and Timothy's girlfriend. The girlfriend has expressed how uncomfortable she was during the trip and even wanted to leave. I'm sorry for Timothy's family but he more or less got his girlfriend and the bear killed. With love comes respect and if you really love an animal, you leave it the eff alone...
This is the perfect example of the fact that love doesn't automatically mean respect. No doubt in my mind that the man loved those bears, but he lacked respect for them, and that lack of respect ultimately cost him and his girlfriend their lives
Nothing "more or less" about it, his actions and blatant disregard for literally everybody around him, including the person he's in a relationship with, _directly_ led to his own, his girlfriend's, and the bear's deaths. He has nobody to blame but himself and his own stubborn delusions.
There's a phrase that says "a fed animal is a dead animal." I don't know if he was feeding them but same principle. Animals that hurt humans get put down, and doing stuff like feeding them or hanging around them while they're extremely hungry makes them much more likely to hurt humans.
Some “fun” facts about the bear guy, Tim that op didn’t mention, and got a little wrong: 1.) It wasn’t Rangers who found their bodies, it was a pilot who flew Tim back and forth to the bears, and their bodies weren’t alone when he found them, they were still being eaten. 2.) Tim knew the bear that killed them, and he didn’t like the bear. I believe he nicknamed it Grumpy, because he was an old bear, and didn’t care for Tim. Grumpy was also missing teeth, and the ones he wasn’t missing were just stumps. 3.) Going off of #2, because Grumpy’s teeth were so bad, he couldn’t kill Tim and his gf as fast as other healthier bears could, which means Tim’s and his gf’s deaths were slow and painful. 4.) In the recording (transcription) Tim told his gf to run, but she refused and tried to help him as he was attacked first. It would have been futile for her to run though as there was nowhere to go. They were too deep in the woods where the only way in or out was a small plane with a small runway in the middle of nowhere, and she didn’t have the radio. 5.) When the pilot found their bodies Grumpy was chewing on Tim’s rib cage, and he had already buried some of their remains for later. 5.) Grumpy was killed and their body parts were exhumed for burial, but not all of them were found. So little was found that altogether they could fit into one casket. .) This could have been avoided had Tim decided to leave when he originally wanted to because they were there during bear’s preparation for hibernation where they become desperate to eat as much as possible, and Grumpy with his messed up teeth was especially desperate.
@@alexanderk.6869 Ah, yes! The girl is always the victim of the case! Nah, she's a grown up adult. She should have checked her bad boy fetishes and not follow a guy who tries to suicide. We all pay for our mistakes. Some times, they price is TOO HIGH!
Travis was such a tragic character. These animals don't stand a chance: they're taken out of their natural environment, domesticated until they can never be released back into the wild, yet never truly tamed and so inevitably become too wild for human society. And then they're stuck in limbo, usually in the care of people who don't respect them as animals and cannot provide them with what they need to truly be happy.
@@GiordanDiodatodomestic cats and dogs are that, domesticated. They're already used to being around humans and it's only with certain breeds (pitbulls) where people intentionally breed some to be attack dogs, and that's why they keep trending for all the wrong reasons.
@@GiordanDiodatoThey are not wild animals and you still have to fulfill their specific animal needs. This woman was even giving alcohol to Travis, she didn't even try to provide Travis with what chimpanzees need, she cared about herself having a 'child'
"Denied therapy." Damn that's cold. I didn't know we lived in a world where you can tell someone they're not allowed to have basic mental health services.
Therapy is a service like any other, you can be denied by having no one willing to work with you. Also, we live in a world where literally everything can be taken away from you, illegally there's nothing stopping some nutter from grabbing you and stuffing you in a basement, Well there is one thing trying to stop people from doing that it's called the government but they have, we'll say mixed results. Legally well it's the government throwing you in the basement. Again mixed results but going to say it leans to one side.
Travis was a well behaved monkey until he reached adulthood and sexual maturity They didn't take that testosterone seriously. Sandra's husband actually asked her to send Travis to a sanctuary when he was dying because he was afraid she wouldn't be able to handle him alone but she couldn't give him up. It was a mess all around
Admittedly, it would have been a very hard time for Travis to have such a sudden change in life, but it still would have been a better end than what he got
I sincerely believe that part of being a true animal lover is having an appreciation for every side of them... Which includes respecting the danger they bring.
Honestly, respect here is such an important word. You have to RESPECT nature and animals, not just do whatever you want. Animals are fascinating, wonderful beautiful, and dangerous. So are humans, just as any animal, but we like to ignore all that and think ooooo pretty monkey. I’m not saying nobody can enjoy nature, but if you’re going to, you better respect it
Well said. It's honestly a kind of condescending view of wild animals when people view them as just cute, not recognising that they are wild animals with their own instincts and intentions, and sometimes their intention is to harm humans, hence why humans should always keep their distance. I mean, even domesticated animals can be dangerous, but with wild animals, that danger and unpredictability is amped up to 11.
Exactly everyone online loves to say oh my god this dangerous wild killing machine is so cute. Oh my God I want to pet it. It just needs a hug. No he needs to get out of this cage. It’s locked in and wants to go fucking roam around Africa not be locked in a fake confinement area and then people say I would love to own it. It’s so cute are the same type of people to be mailed and be faceless. Because they are so dumb they can’t recognize it’s a WILD ANIMAL🤦🏽♂️
as much as I joke about how "I'm going to die doing something stupid" and "My toxic trait is thinking that the lion will sense my good vibes and let me pet it", I am well aware that animals can be very dangerous, especially wild ones. I love them, but I will respect and enjoy the sight of them from a distance(Or the safety of my car if I'm out for a drive)
I'm a bit surprised you went over the story of Timothy Treadwell but not that of Siberian girl Olga Moskalyova back in 2011. That's the one that made me swear never to go near bears. It gives me goosebumps every time my daughter who lives in Montana tells me she's going camping.
I just read the article and it was horrific. Olga had phoned her mom three times as it was happening. The mother bear didn't kill her instantly, no, it also brought her cubs. By her last phone call Olga said it no longer hurt.
Because it doesn't fit with the theme of the video, people forgetting that animals are still animals, and it's impossible to domesticate most of them. While that incident is horrifying, it's a result of a wild animal attacking someone, not because the people were foolish enough to approach them thinking they had them domesticated.
Yeah, it never fails to hit me a bit deeper every time I’m reminded about how Travis ran off to go inside and lay down next to his cage while he was in the process of dying after being shot… it’s just a very VERY heartbreaking detail in my opinion.
@@Tarnished-bn5gq Way to villainize an animal. I'm not gonna defend a chimp on TH-cam, but man, you sure are one simple-minded fellow. Always thinking black and white eh?
I remember going down a rabbit hole years ago about the James Davis story. Even read an interview he did. Pretty sad considering it wasn't even Mo who did any of the damage. If I remember correctly, the chimps actually escaped from their cage while watching them have the cake with Mo. It also wasn't the first time they escaped... which calls into question how that place was run. If you're serious about keeping animals in cages make sure the locks cannot be broken. Also, I believe Mo escaped into the woods after that incident and was never found again.
Okay, I already thought the picture of Travis holding the baby looked creepy as hell, but then seeing the whole “almost always a sign of aggression” thing made me have to pause the video while it sank in. Oh my god
Let me get this straight, a man gets 30 days in jail and charged with a felony for defending the life of his dog, his friends, and himself, against one of the most homicidal life forms on the face of the Earth that was a clear and present danger, what the actual f***.
There are two stories. He either shot an already tranquilized animal that was obviously no threat anymore or defended against an attacking animal that still was a threat. Not as clear cut as you make it out to be.
Now imagine when his dog would escape just to explore, some dumb fuck kids would fuck with making the dog defend itself and surely biting, and let's say the bite is not that horrible, painful as fuck and will leave a scar but not fatal. The owner is gonna be sued and the dog could be put down.
@@raisindrahgon yeah but whose story was that the chimp was already tranqed? Chimp Party's? That's immediately sus since they would need that story to seek legal action, and they would definitely want to cover their losses somehow.
These stories kind of remind me of something that happened where I’m from. Our national park has lots of elk and tourists had been told not to feed them. For whatever reason people seem to think they know more than the park rangers and continued to feed them, because of this one of the male elks became very comfortable around people and started to expect food. During their rut season which is around September through October is also when we have the most tourists and a man trying to photograph them was attacked by the male elk. He had to be put down and everyone came after the park rangers for doing it but had they listened to the park rangers to begin with this may not have ever happened.
I'm from the same kind of place where people just don't respect nature. Seeing people get close to the elk is already infuriating, but even with bears who you'd think the average person knew a little bit more about, you'll see tourists getting close to them for a selfie and it pisses me off so badly, because that's extremely dangerous... for the bear.
@@sross9501 I have no sympathy at all for any of these idiots. What really bothers me are the ones who put their children in harms way all for an instagram or facebook pic. IMO they should be charged with child endangerment.
Even as scary as the animals are due to their nature, I can’t help but feel bad for em being in situations they have no right being put in because of how much the blame often gets put on them rather than people being dumb. I’m glad over here we agree it’s people’s fault at least.
@@ripKIKO-vj8ti Smart person...please keep knowing better. I was a zookeeper a long time ago, & was working in the zoo hospital (which is also where new animals are often quarantined) when a new jaguar was brought in. Her name was Missy & she'd grown up with a Hollywood animal trainer. She was very human socialized, but her trainer had given her up b/c big cats stay wild animals, no matter how young they're gotten by humans, & she'd gotten unpredictable. Missy's situation was heartbreaking; she was confined to a fairly small cage while waiting for her quarantine time to pass, & (like all the big cats, all the time) absolutely no one was allowed in with her. She couldn't understand why her former friends wouldn't play with her, & petting her thru the chain link was not satisfying to her. She never would be able to be with her own kind OR humans, for the rest of her life. Her life was a miserable mess, because humans tried to make her be something she could never be. (Chimps are even worse, "taming"-wise.) Ever time I think of that poor big cat, so lost, confused, & depressed, it makes me want to cry.
I did volunteer work with big cats once, one thing I will never forget was the time we fed a tiger a quarter of a cow. It took almost three of us to carry it into the confinement and the tiger picked it up with as much ease as a dog with a stick.
@@c.d.rstudios4691in the u.s. Bog is used to describe a swamp or something being "bogged down" like slowed down or hampered by something. Yeah this is certainly a typo. I didn't understand it either at first lol
Reality and life is bad now a days since wars escalate and more problems cause people to turn against others life is a beautiful lie while death is the horrible truth
Nope, somebody else here in the comment section already said the quote but there's a quote "reality is often disappointing" is far more fitting for reality, yes truly sick shit and sick people exist on our world but have you ever sat down and really thought about how terrifying some concepts from certain novels are like the Cthulhu Mythos, or even modern web series like the monument Mythos, imagine being forcefully swapped from one Universe to to another and forced to live with people who are Vaguely Familiar to your loved ones but you know they're not them
A pair of chimps tearing Davis to shreds is pretty horrific, but ALSO, I can't imagine how horrific it would be to go to a hospital, teetering on the edge of death, and have them just go, "nah!" and refuse to treat you like you were already a corpse. That's terrible.
Fun fact: only one person has heard the grizzly man audio. The director for the documentary “grizzly man”. He immediately teared up and told the owner to destroy the tape immediately. She did not
@@klltx2001 A single documentary is still an interpretation. So if more people would want to make documentaries of this danger they would need the original audio to get less bias and not be the interpretation of an interpretation. Also same reason why concentration camps are museums now in germany, as a warning.
This video made me curious about Timothy Treadwell. I wound up watching that documentary. Quick correction in that I don't think Werner Herzog was the only one to hear the audio...I think the coroner for Treadwell and his girlfriend did, too. The scene where Herzog listens to the audio is gonna stick with me literally for the rest of my life, I think...we don't even SEE his face, but we don't need to. It's enough; it was enough to make that friend of Treadwell's break down crying. I think he later retracted his 'You must destroy this tape' statements, acknowledging that the audio he heard was so gruesome that he was still in horrified shock and not thinking clearly when he made them, but honestly? I don't blame him for making them. But neither do I blame her for what she did with it; if she HAD destroyed it, I would understand, but to this day, that tape is held in a safe, and only she knows the code. I can't begin to imagine what a horrible thing it must be for her to hold onto... In her shoes, I honestly don't know what I would have done. (ALSO don't quote me on this, but I've heard that some people working on the documentary wanted the audio from the tape to be used IN the documentary. You know, for everyone who ever watched it to hear. Werner Herzog, himself, very forcefully put his foot down against that idea. Or so I've heard.)
Moe, the chimp's story has a sad ending. The sanctuary where he was living claimed he ran away into the woods. They said they searched but couldn't find him. The couple who owned him never believed that story because Moe had always lived in a house with people. They didn't think it was plausible that he would decide to return to nature. They were always suspicious that he was killed in some sort of accident and the sanctuary covered it up. Poor Moe.
I’m 1000% sure they failed to properly integrate him with the other chimps and he got killed in a attack. You’re asking an animal that had never interacted with chimps in his life to suddenly live with them
@@mndiaye_97 Not only that, but Moe was, at least from what I could tell, an exception to the rule when it comes to Chimps interacting with Humans as Moe was not why He and those around him had their lives turned upside down, but it was another two random chimps who ruined his life and the Humans around him to me adds a lot more tragedy to this since Moe was that scarce exception among chimps of being a passive chimp only to have two other chimps ruin his life and that of the two humans that raised him.
@@InquisitorXarius yyeah because really mo probably would have shared the cake anyway... perhaps these chimps are more like us in that way. ..but i do think its common knowledge to not feed animals in front of other animals since tthey all want to be fed too but...mmhhmm
Exactly, feeding him cake in view of other chimps was a dumb move. Even if they didn't escape I bet they'd be pissed off at Moe and probably hurt him later
@@Sherlyndxs peta is an acronym for "People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals." A group of nuts that believe having pets is equal to SLAVERY. And human rights should extend to ALL animals. They (there was a large group) are as stupid crazy as the dummies who adopt wild animals. If you think I exaggerate, they have protested pig farms where pigs are raised to provide heart valves for transplant and insulin for diabetics.
ayy, sorry to bother dude but i just wan know: does the entire video contain spoilers for the movie? i rlly don't want take chances in seeing spoilers while skimming thru the vid to see if he talks about something else lol
@@travelsizedhispasian Nope! No major major spoilers, just some vague references to things that happen in the movie, mainly focused around 1 scene. 10/10 would recommend seeing the movie too though, very good, very creepy.
@@shortsunflower2325 thanks for the heads up! i am def gon watch the movie whenever i get the chance cause i loved Us, Get Out, & Antebellum sm lol once again, thank you! ^^
I remember when roy got attacked by the white tiger. I had respect for Roy that he did not blame the animal. That Roy was pretty much dying and asking people not to hurt the tiger says a lot about Roy's character.
Honestly, I always felt uneasy seeing chimps in movies or shows wearing clothes and being treated like human kids. It just never sat well with me. I much preferred to learn about chimps by watching them in a wildlife documentary in their natural habitat. My gut feeling had been right all along.
tbh i think thats part of the reason the chimp in Nope was CGI, using a real one would've been hypocritical. That and you probably couldn't safely teach a chimp to pretend to do the things they showed it doing in the movie
Idiots who believe the speculation that humans were monkeys also believes that if you treat monkeys like humans they will eventually learn and start behaving and communicating like humans.
The other thing about anti-anxiety meds for animals is it can unmask aggression. Sometimes fear/anxiety will inhibit an animal from attacking but, when you remove that... Poor Travis was basically set up for failure and the woman who was attacked did not deserve what happened - my heart absolutely goes out to her. This is why wild animals are not pets. Tame isn't the same as domesticated.
Gotta love the channel for the fact that you're not describing actions of wild animals as crazy or otherwise abnormal but simply them being what they are and doing what they do by nature. People really like to forget that the only abnormal act of a wild animal is when it treats a human like their friend. Especially after everything that humanity has done to those animals in the past, I just can't help but think that absolutely every animal dislikes us by default (and rightfully so).
Just to add a bit more to the Tredwell story, but the infamous "Death Recording" was actually given to his mother and she listened to it on a show about Tredwell on TLC several years back. Basically, his mother heard his and his girlfriends last ever words as they were being killed and eaten. Pretty heavy stuff.
My understanding was that it was Werner Hertzog that listened to it, and was so disturbed he begged them never ever to listen to it and lock it away forever.
@@mikalero it's on tape, him listening to it. He stops it and tells the ex-gf (friend) - the owner of the tape, to destroy it. He later said he was wrong to say that, and was happy she didn't. It does illustrate how horrifying that must have been. The coroner who did the autopsies (of what was left), also relayed some of the events, but the tape itself is in a vault somewhere.
It's insanity that the guy gunning down 3 chimps with murderous intent, possibly saving himself, his friends and his dog, got into trouble like the "expensive merchandise" as the chimps were being treated as, were more important then their potential lives.
I feel for the animals that got killed (sounds like they were severely mistreated by the party group), but I think any rational person person would do what he did or at least be understanding.
I actually had the chance to go to a sanctuary were many of the big cats from Tiger King were placed after that fiasco. It’s in Colorado and while you can walk around it’s all elevated so you aren’t in the animals territory. So while it was hard to see the animals at times, I felt good knowing I wasn’t stressing them and that those cats were in a much better place after that torture.
I'm a professional snake keeper and have venomous snakes. It's these dumbasses that treat animals like humans that shouldn't own animals (although a tiger is wildly different from a rattlesnake that will just sit in its cage) and no I never touch them I have a hook for that.
@@pjenestratsienatie1876 yeah, and not just people who treat them like humans, but also people who treat them like props, commodities, trophies, or collectibles.
@@pjenestratsienatie1876 I’ve heard that despite being the most venomous snakes in the world, Inland Taipans are actually pretty passive and easier to interact with than a Rattle Snake or King Cobra. Is that true?
@@pjenestratsienatie1876 yeah, but I don't think people that want big mammals as pets really register that they are still wild animals, whereas with snakes and reptiles in general everyone understands it's not going to do whatever you want and never hurt you. But the potential risk of a tiger or chimp is far greater than the most venomous snakes. If you get bitten by a snake we have effective first aid to slow the spread of venom and effective treatment with antivenoms. And while this is happening the snake can't/won't really do anything to actively keep trying to kill you, because humans aren't in their weight class and they know it. A chimp or tiger on the other hand can rip you in half, and modern medicine isn't nearly as useful when you're bleeding out. And whilst snakes can be caught safely with the right gear, to get a big mammal you need tranqs, which are risky and slow, or to just kill it outright.
So they arrested someone for defending not only themself, but his friends (including his dog), but decided to tranquilize a chimpanzee when they get more pissed off by it? Yeah, I can see why this is the only time i side with PETA
Yeah, I’m with Jason on this, I’m just glad he didn’t try to fight it head on, otherwise his *ahem* “skin chandelier” wouldn’t still be attached. He was imo 100% in the right, and am so glad he was able to save his friends and his puppy
The last story was frightening but so glad they ended up okay. Absolutely crazy that someone would get into trouble for defending their friends and dog from a group of crazed chimps.
The justice system is beyond screwed up is someone goes to jail for that. Judge and jury should've read a more law books or had more compassion for the dude whose dog was in danger.
My grandmother bought a small monkey as a pet when my mom was young (I don’t remember the species, but she said it was fairly small). My mom said the monkey was very angry and threw its shit everywhere. Go figure. Luckily my grandma was smart enough to give it away after a short time. The 60s/70s in Detroit were wild.
Oh yeah, they were weird times. My father had a pet monkey for a short time. According to him at least. While he was living with his parents, my grandmother was given a little monkey. it had been abused at its last home. To the point where its tail didn't grow fur anymore, because of the scarring. It couldn't sit properly either. He and my grandmother both said it was the nastiest little animal they ever had. According to my dad, it finally broke out of it's cage one night and froze to death outside. Because tropical animals don't do well in Canada. I'm skeptical of my father's story. Because they have lied about the specifics on animal deaths in the past. As he had/has a 'bad habit' of letting other peoples pets get lost. Including my parrot years later. Where he'd just take her outside and let her fly off. (Fortunately she never wandered too far and never too high. We could always retrieve her.) But I do trust my grandmother a bit more. So I know that at least they had that monkey, and it was injured.
@@13wolfy13 if I had a nickel for every time I've heard a story of a monkey freezing to death because it was a pet I'd have two nickels(which isn't a very much but it's weird it happened twice) But seriously my great grandma bought my mother and her sister a monkey for a pet when they were kids along with a few other weird animals(mostly birds) and they only had it for a short time apparently it was just a weird pet in general but when a flash freeze warning went out they left their house to go to relatives( so they would all be stuck together rather than apart in case of an emergency) and left all of their animals behind in their house *with no heat* so they all froze to death including the monkey. My mother still tells this like it's a funny story and not horrifying which is a common trend with my mother's stories Edit: had to fix grammar mistakes
My mom had a friend as a kid whose family had some type of ape or monkey as a pet. She could never bring any of her friends over because he would start touching himself as soon as a female walked in the room.
Fun fact: Jim Jones, the founder of the People's Temple Church, was a door to door monkey salesman in the 60's, so your grandmother might have met him.
Always frustrates me when people act shocked and horrified when big cats... act like cats. Like people clearly haven't lived with cats if they think a tiger wouldn't do the same thing a cat could but 50x worse. I'm covered in cuts and scars from owning cats, can't imagine what one twice my size could do on its own off days. how the hell can you NOT expect it when domestic animals do shit like that all the time?
Big cats are different to chimps. And big cats are different (tigers, caracals... Etc) If the cat is domesticated (preferably from young) they are perfectly fine. You probably only had small cats in your life and that's okay
@@GuyfromEarth3000 ??? I am literally talking about domestic cats and comparing them to big cats. Big cats are not domesticated. They can not BE domesticated, even if you have them from cubhood. They may become tame, but even then, they are still wild animals, and still cats. Domestic cats and big cats will do a lot of the same things. Which includes scratching and biting as a result of perceived slights and stressors. Like explained in the video, the likely explanation behind Roy's tiger going at him, is that he changed the routine without warning. In a domestic cat, that may result in spraying, appetite loss, moodiness, etc. You can expect much the same with a big cat, except this tiger is also in front of a live audience (lots of noise and people) with music and people speaking on mic (lots of noise and chaos) which is going to result in a much bigger reaction - so, straight to the aggression. The tiger even gave him warning in the same way a domestic cat may have, through bites that are not meant to hurt (though being a tiger, they will). The comparison goes this way - if a domestic cat will do it, expect a big cat to. If a domestic cat bites from stress, expect a big cat to. Anything harmful a domestic cat does, any wild cat will also do, but it will be 10x worse. If my domestic cat bites me, it's one thing - it won't kill me. If my "pet" tiger does it, that's a life-threatening issue. So when people are shocked that a tiger they raised from cubhood actually bites, that's horseshit behaviour on their part from thinking they could not only take the wild out of an animal, but the cat out of a cat. Tigers will bite. Not a question of if, but when. Wild animals will be wild. They will shit, piss, bite, scratch, kick, scream, and do every natural thing they do in the wild no matter how "tame" you think they are.
@@GuyfromEarth3000 Even domestic cat aren't truly domestic. Training them is a pain in the ass, they do whatever they want, aren't obedient and loyal like dogs and they view you as something they own because you provide for them. And you think you can domesticate the wild ones. Ridiculous.
Yeah I've heard about that bear tragedy, I also heard that the authorities kept the audio and someone had a permission to make a documentary about it so they allowed only him to listen to the audio, The recording was so terrifying that the person making the documentary was shocked that it still existed and he said and I quote, "It should have been destroyed."
This was a few years ago and idk if I heard the reenactment audio or the actual audio (I think it was the actual audio though) but I don't recommend listening... some good news is that at one point the woman stopped feeling pain and she told her mother "it's Ok. I don't feel pain anymore. *Bear sounds in the background* Even in her final moments she was trying to comfort her mom. You could still hear the Bear. Shit was pretty fucked up.
Friendly reminder that our ancestors often died that way. That's why I shake my head at the so called "nature lovers" that think the wild is some kind of paradise like a fantasy tale.
The Gordy scene really left me feeling some type of way, just very emotional. I stopped the movie just to rewind and watch the scene a few more times. Everything about it was chilling. I felt a level of empathy for all the characters involved that is stronger than I normally feel when watching film. The fear and pain the people felt when Gordy attacked them, the terror of the little boy under the table, and the confusion of Gordy himself who clearly did not understand what was happening. I can't stop thinking about how every cut, every instruction of vision, every choice made the scene even more effective in capturing the horror. Just...a beautiful piece of cinematic work.
did we watch the same movie? thing was a dumpster fire IMO, also still dont understand why glenn got all googley eyed thinking back on that shit like he was about to nut in his pants just thinking about it.
I actually didn't find the whole chimp thing scary, it's just an animal, we know them & what we know isn't scary. Now that alien creature, that was fucking scary, espcially the way it just came down silently the first time you see it & without any music or jumpscare editing, it was like "here's the monster" & you see it, that scared me more than a chimp.
Missed a detail about the James St. Davis incident, particularly about Moe. A few years after the attack, he broke out of his enclosure and escaped into the wilderness. Even with search parties dispatched, the chimp was never found again. Edit: Actually, it's way more likely Moe was killed by the sanctuary owners or other chimps, and they may be using "he escaped" as a cover-up. That's even more terrible, if true.
If Moe did die in the sanctuary it would most likely be the cause of other chimps as if he died of natural causes the sanctuary would have mentioned it. Now there’s also that possibility Moe himself went CHIMP which led to his supposed demise.
Knowing how intelligent they are, he probably self-deleted and it was too disturbing to release to the public. We've known dolphins kept in poor conditions to willingly self-delete before, there's no reason why a chimp theoretically couldn't.
Idea for a future video: Birds that CAN go to heaven. Some good aviators that aren’t heinous creatures of the prehistoric era. Subjects could be stuff like the Hyacinth Macaw (those guys are insane with how they plant seeds ON PURPOSE) or any bird that does cool stuff that doesn’t kill people
@@CocoLocoToco wrong actually, thats the Spix’s Macaw (don’t know if I spelled that right) The bird in Rio. They were extinct in the *wild* but have recently made a comeback!
I got one word for you on this subject: Alex. He was an African grey who was the subject of a thirty year long experiment by animal psychologist Irene Pepperberg. He could do simple math, identify objects and colours, and even ask legitimate questions. It’s also believed that he understood emotions to a degree, as if researchers working on him expressed irritation, he would say, “I’m sorry.” Pepperberg was also teaching him to recognise graphemes, but he died before she could successfully teach him. (And on a tear jerking note, his last words to Pepperberg were, “You be good. I love you.”
This video game me the chills. And the last story made me so angry. Jason was doing what any rational person would when faced woth a wild dangerous animal.
Honestly, some people may blame these incidents on the environment that Travis was raised in, but chimps aren't peaceful in the wild. They are calculating predators and are more than capable organizing as a group to wage war against other weaker groups of chimps. People get attacked by other "domesticated" lions, tigers etc. kept as pets all the time. Keeping exotic pets, especially like big cats and great apes is a dangerous game to play regardless of the environment they are kept in.
The fact that they're (chimps, etc.) closer to us in intelligence and (some) social behaviour should honestly make them less appealing as pets, same as orcas. . NOBODY needs a near-same (or higher, istg, with some people) intelligence but much bigger, stronger and more aggressive 'furbaby' that you can't speak its language and it can only partly understand yours -- which doesn't guarantee obedience -- and whom you will never *really* be able to put in a time-out corner if it rejects your authority, as a PET. Even less does anybody need to find out the hard (read: gruesome and possibly fatal) way that their neighbor tried to play King of the Jungle in the middle of suburbia. . Stupidity aside, if these folks REALLY think these animals are basically the same as human except with fur, scales, fins, etc.? Then they're basically engaging in slavery by removing said animals from their native environments in order to make the animals serve at their human masters' pleasure. And they're disrespecting their basic social and care etc. needs by denying them free unhindered access to their natural environment and own kind to interact with. They haven't 'saved' them; they've enslaved them for funzies.
Unless they're domesticated (as well as well-trained and genuinely cared for along with the domestication). While I personally love both cats and dogs (and have a sweet furbaby of my own), cats and dogs do tend to sometimes cause harm to humans the most due to us having them in our homes for centuries, and it hasn't stopped billions of people to continue having them as pets.
The worst part about these stories of people getting too chummy with animals is that most of the time when shit eventually hits the fan, it's someone unrelated getting hurt.
I remember all of these, the last audio recording of Timothy Treadwell when he was being attacked/mauled is so haunting and sends chills down my spine.. People need to leave wild animals to their own devices and stop trying to make them pets. Neverr ends well. Love your vids btw! =)
Another big connection I noticed between Nope and real life is with the death of Azaria Chamberlain. The dingoes around Uluru had grown accustomed to being fed by humans, and therefore thought of humans as a source of food, and didn't know the difference between a package of hotdogs and a human infant. I'm sure everyone who's seen Nope can see the connection there.
Wait, you mean the "dingo ate my baby" incident? The one where the mother was wrongfully arrested and charged on suspicion of murdering her own baby after Dingos did, in-fact, eat her baby?
So moral of the story is, remember that wild animals are wild animals, and no amount of love or trust you think you have with them is going to override their basic instincts.
Kinda shows how the compony didnt care even more Cuz they sold Travis for profit, and knew he wouldnt have a satisfying habitat. And both ended up being risks because no one treated the problem seriously, till it was to late
That part of "Nope" freaked me out more than any horror movie ive seen since The Exorcist came out when I was 13. It was SO REAL. People who keep wild animals as pets remind me of the great Robert A Heinlein's saying, "Never underestimate the power of human stupidity."
This narrator is brilliant! He doesn't mince words, and tells it like it is. Fortunately, the majority of people, look at these foolish idiots, and are not surprised by the end results.
Travis was -kept inside all day -fed nothing but junk food -not allowed to socialize majority of his life -fed fucking Xanax -and he ain’t got no bitches This dude was a ticking time bomb
@@Tokuijin That's because they're too out of shape to do it, I'm pretty sure some of the people I've met while playing games would try if they could lol.
Side note: I wonder if humans being creeped out by an almost human smile is because it is a sign on aggression in chimpanzees and it's a survival instinct
I'd say it's because generally, we see smiles as a friendly gesture, when a chimpanzee does it, it's always a little off, and we know that it's that it's a sign of malace and not a sign of friendliness
@@c.d.rstudios4691 And probably also because it falls right in the uncanny valley. It's _almost_ human but ever so slightly... off. But yeah, most likely, as you said, our subconscious recognises that the smile is one filled with malice and anger.
Well humans supposedly evolved from primates like chimps so it's probably instinct, a species can evolve all it wants but as Alan Grant said in Jurassic Park you can't just supress hundreds and/or thousands etc. years of gut instinct
I think its because we smile a specific way via stretching our lips up and with our eyes squinted. Other animals smile differently via by lifting their lips up (most animals like dogs do this) and eyes wide, so instinctually, we know its not right Its also why we also get freaked out if we see people smiling too much with their eyes wide open, because we just know its not the nice kind. We're wired to pick up when some expression isn't normal despite it being something that should be. Wide eyes tend to be a sign of surprise/fear or aggression with us, so when its paired with something comforting like a smile it doesn't look right. Its also why we freak out when any expression in general is being exaggerated or mixed up in some way, its goes against what we're instinctually wired to recognize and connect with some feeling. Lets say you have relaxed lips but wide eyes and relaxed brows and stare at someone like that, it'll look unsettling because your expression is giving unreadable/different signals and it'll just immediately just get labeled as a sign of threat/danger.
I've thought about this a long time ago and now I'm finally acting on it. With all these stories you've covered of famous animals ultimately paying with their lives for being treated as commodities, you HAVE to make a video on Jumbo the elephant and his tragic demise in 1860. Honestly, you could probably do a whole video on the dark side of circuses and their treatment of animals on its own. Keep up the great work!
Knowing that a smile from a chimp is a sign of aggression that picture of the chimp holding the baby and smiling got a whole hell of a lot scarier.
It already terrified me
@flower has eaten eat a waffle iorn
@flower has eaten bot?
Yes, it went from terrifying to bricking your pants
I've actually had to work taking care of a couple dozen macaques, and they also bare their teeth as a sign of aggression. Let me be clear: if that chimp was smiling like that as a sign of aggression, somebody would have very likely been mauled the moment they approached to retrieve the baby. Primates like that are quick to violence when they are like that unless you back off slowly while making the appropriate submissive expression (head tilted slightly whilst moving your lips like you are making a popping sound) and not looking at them directly (and even then they can still end up charging you).
What's more likely, given the context of the chimp being raised by humans and chimps generally being quite intelligent, is that the chimp in question has picked up on how humans use smiles and, like a child learning to speak, mimicked it's "parents" in the application thereof.
The problem comes in situations where the chimp legitimately feels stressed and/or threatened as people generally wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the learned "I'm happy" smile and the instinctive "Back off now" smile.
She was trying to replace her daughter that died in an accident. That whole situation was beyond screwed up. Her husband practically begged her to re-home Travis.
@@CrewmateWeiWuxian-t8d I guess because a baby chimp is more "human like" than a dog, and since they raised Travis so young it really got stuck in their brains that he was their kid. As much as I love animals, treating a non-human animal as a human almost never ends well.
I once again advocate for better education on mental health, particularly grief, in this world.
Should of gotten a dog instead a lot safer
@@vntajones yea a small dog, cat or bird, because she would fuck up with any animal heavier 10lbs
Maybe she got freaky with travis
Moral of the story: Just because you love animals and nature, doesn't mean animals and nature have any cosmic obligation to love you back.
Old lady: "I love you like my own son!"
Gorrila: *"...... Your smile still pisses me off."* 👊💥
Its kind of makes sense that many ancient religions view their gods less like protectors and more like landlords to be respected and feared instead of to be loved out of their good nature.
@@forickgrimaldus8301 When your home got rocked by an earthquake or tidalwave, you kinda have to drop the whole "benevolent" aspect of them.
@@leonardhollsten8145 that or Famine, famine and climate change can be very devestating to Ancient civilisations which explains why some civs have very extreme religious beliefs like the Aztecs.
Though I disagree on the earthquake and Tidal thing as it depends sometimes it instead increases belief instead and people blame institutions.
I would add that there is a difference between love and a desire to possess. Love is freeing.
The two scariest things about the Travis incident, at least for me:
1. You can HEAR Travis in the 911 call... made worse by the operator thinking it was a prank and not taking it seriously at first.
2. If it wasn't for her forgetting the attack, the last visual memory Nash would ever have would have been an enraged chimpanzee tearing her apart.
Pretty nuts to that the newer planet of the apes movie is most likely heavily based on the second story
With all due respect, that lady was asking for it, she had an emotionally abusive, unhealthy relationship with a fckn chimpanzee. I dont feel strongly positive about that second point there. Fck around and find out.
1. was the operator 100% traumatized upon learning the truth?
2. I'm not sure if that's a blessing or not, completely forgetting that the animal you loved so much tried to kill you. (I'll stick to cats, though)
@NinjaFlibble Well they had to remove her eyes, so basically if she hadn't forgotten, the last thing she would have seen for the rest of her life would've been what was equivalent to her own son, tearing her face apart. I'd consider forgetting a blessing, but in most cases where people forget, they seem to wish they hadn't. Then again, I've never had my face ripped off so I can't talk.
It's not exactly forgetting the event, but more of repressing it. Think about it: this event was so awful, so traumatizing and hellish, most people wouldn't be able to process what happened entirely. So, the mind subconsciously takes that painful memory and kind of pushes it down, locking it away. That memory is still in there somewhere, it's just not going to be actively remembered because it would cause too much pain for the individual. Basically your mind knows it cannot handle re-living those events at the moment and hides it away.
Some people end up remembering repressed memories after some time, some never do. In her case, I would see repressing a chimpanzee attack as a good thing. If that happened to me, I'd never want to remember what torturous agony I was put through.
The whole "the animals didn't go rogue, they went animal" always reminds me of "the water isn't 'shark-infested', that's their home. It's human infested."
That's true
Yep, Leave the animals alone!
@@carolynmaynard3694 but humans are animals too they act like animals they take like animals they are evolved animals.
@@thekingisback6904 yet unlike animals we find it smart to try and mess with predators
@@showbizstudios655 yeah
Jason casually having a better understanding of what chimps are capable of than any of the weirdos who claimed to handle the animals is pretty telling.
People so badly want to think of animals as their friends or pretend they can understand them on this really deep level that they just ignore the facts.
Like the guy that claimed to "understand" bears.....they ate him.....and his GF.
There's also a guy that lives with a "wild" (but on a reservation) wolf pack...there'll be a somewhat empty funeral for him too I suspect.
Fucking embarrassing considering they looks like they bench cars for a living. I'd have been doubtful of the guns effectiveness and put a few in it
never even heard of this Travis story before, Americans are truly.... truly bizarre people
@@neltins5308 an average day in Florida.
“The bear that was found guilty for only being a bear”….
Love that you said that, people really need to understand it
You can't save everyone. Some people are wayyyyyy too idealistic and don't live in reality 🤷🏾♂️
Still killin' the fcker.
When sh¡t gets real...
→¢μnts get tribal!
That being said, the rangers did what they had to do: once a bear gets the chance to eat a person, it starts thinking that maybe long pork cutlet isn’t such a bad option to have on the menu. And that’s not something you can risk the Bear continuing with.
@@spindash64 then stay out of the woods... Humans already ruin this earth now animals can't even be in their own spot no more smh.
@@spindash64 Huntings humans always seems like more trouble than it's worth until they try it and then they find it's actually not that hard... Until they get executed anyway, but they can't understand that's coming for them. Seems like the pattern for all predators.
Unlike the bear guy, Steve Irwin always had security and emergency support nearby.
Yes, he too believed he can handle animals safely.
But he always respected their danger capabilities.
Which makes it only more tragic that he did pass away.
He didn’t fuck with cassowaries so that’s also another thing
And the sad thing is, I can hear him saying something like "sorry there big guy, didn't mean to startle you" to the stingray that killed him. He understood the risks and took them anyway with as much safety as possible because he wanted to help people learn about animals and become passionate. Yet he still got got. If that's not enough to make you weary around wild animals, I don't think anything will
Rest in peace, king. He is currently being missed 😞
Rest in peace, king. He is currently being missed 😞
If Steve was still alive he would 100% not blame the stingray
It's crazy that Jason Coates is the only one in these stories who made the sensible decisions yet he's the only one that got charged and served jail time.
People really do be jumping into tiger exhibits and suing (successfully) zoos after getting mauled, but Jason defends himself and his dog from unprovoked attack and gets slammed.
I mean, most of the people in this story were either mauled to death or are so badly injured they might as well be dead
So it's not like they got away with a slap on the wrist while Jason went to jail
@@DarkDoughnutsVids I suppose they paid the price in blood and pain rather than time
@@DarkDoughnutsVids I more meant the plethora of other people outside of this video (such as the teacher that tried to commit suicide via polar bear, or the boys that taunted Tatiana the Tiger into killing/mauling them and then suing the zoo). A few of the people here who ere mauled by their own animals really did pay the price in full already.
I think Travis' owner was gonna serve time but she died either before the trial or sentencing idk. All I remember is she passed away not long after the attack
The fact that a chimp’s already creepy smile is a sign of aggression adds a whole level of terror.
They do be grinning before they remove a person from the earth
@@yeezoyoutube bro got me chuckling
@@yeezoyoutube lmaoo why would you say it like that
@@yeezoyoutube I don't know if I should thank you for helping remove the unsettling feeling I have in me right now or something 😭 When I tell you I wheezed at this comment
light skin rizz before they murder a kid with rocks 😤
As psychology student I can tell you, raising a chimp as a human never ends well developmentally seeking. Just look at the problems Lucy had when returned to her own kind.
What happened to Lucy?
Agree- look what happened to Tarzan 😁
@@airplanes_aren.t_real Ultimately she was killed by poachers, but the thing Ian is mentioning is that she was completely unable to properly integrate into an ape society.
@@airplanes_aren.t_real She developed a fetish for human men.
@@airplanes_aren.t_real ima just quote sam o'nella " she was poached like a fucking egg"
Worst part about the Travis the Chimp incident?
Sandra's husband wanted Travis to go to a chimp sanctuary should anything terrible happen to him. After her husband died, Sandra basically went against his wishes because "Travis was all she had".
That woman needed grief therapy
Typical misogynist. The woman was grieving and you found a way to dismiss her grieve.
Maybe she did need grief therapy, but that doesn't change the fact that she made a very selfish decision. Look at what happened because of it. 😢
If you want to be really mad, look up the chimpanzee Lucy, who some 1960s "scientists" literally raised as if she were their human daughter. They taught her to dress herself, make tea, use silverware and furniture. When she became sexually mature, her psychotherapist "father" gave her a playgirl magazine to see if she was aroused by human men (she was). He then tried to introduce her to a male chimp, and she was terrified because she'd never met another chimp before.
When she turned 12 and was too strong and dangerous to continue living with them, they just took her to a preserve in Gambia. Even though the people working there said she was not a good fit for rehabilitation and instead should go to a chimp retirement home where she could safely continue to live like she had all her life with all the food, magazines, toys, and tea that she was used to (but maybe not the gin and "alone time" with porn mags and a vacuum cleaner). But her "parents" left her there and returned to the US after a few weeks, and her "dad" published a book about the experiment of raising her that same year that they abandoned her.
It was a university student that stayed at the center for years to try and help her assimilate. She never did. She never showed attraction to the male chimps or got a mate. She didn’t want anything to do with the other chimps and was clearly depressed. She refused to eat and would sign "hurt" to the student.
It took almost a decade for her to actually begin to integrate with the chimps. A year after she did finally start to live with them, her dead body was found. The student thinks it may have been poachers that killed her (since her hands were missing). If it was, she would have probably just walked right up to them to say hello.
That's upsetting. And really disturbing. Why would these scientists POSSIBLY be interested in her reaction to p*rn? Makes me wonder if that was the end of the perverted experiments on her...😬
That’s so messed up.. but my question is how did she become conditioned to be aroused by human men and NOT chimp men.. like you would’ve thought her natural biological thought process would’ve taken over
@@rawfermews4186 yeah, that was a huge surprise. I guess it may be similar to when imprinted birds will try to court their handler and don't want to mate with their own species. There's biological processes that happen when animals are infants that shape how they behave when adults. She was raised by humans and had literally never seen another chimp before. If something as different to humans as a falcon can think it should court people instead of birds, it follows that an ape would too. And it makes the story even sadder.
That last sentence broke my heart holy shit
@@rawfermews4186 only if you are more into nature over nurture.
Moral of the story: "Chimpanzee" and "pet" should never belong in the same sentence unless this sentence warns against keeping these violent primates as pets.
How about "the chimpanzee killed my pet dog"?
What about "I am calling the cops because you have a chimpanzee as a pet"
Getting strong Sam O'Nella academy vibes hah
@@fresanegra77 I miss that guy
@@derpyducks22 he still lives on...
On the many new channels that follow his format so the legend lives on :)
That last story made me kinda mad. Dude served jail time and missed the birth of his kid for doing what literally any rational person would have done. Man is a hero in my book
Really makes you wonder how much tax revenue the relevant authorities were collecting from Chimp Party in what should have been an open and shut case of self-defense/defense-of-other.
idk about hero but he didn't deserve that shit for sure. One of many many examples of our fucked legal system.
I don't get why we're allowed to kill animals in the wild and not kill the humans that exploit them in urban areas , both bring great danger to humans but the ones in the wild rarely hurt anyone unless you trespass onto their habitats.
@@Uhoh11111 because that could easily be abused by humans who would claim things and lie about humans abusing other humans obviously.
People can make all the laws they want, but they can't change the laws of physics of the Universe. They can't change the principles of causality. And the laws of causality of my Universe say: "You fuck with my dog, you're fucked". Chimps or not. Not even my responsibility, really.
The entire moral of NOPE is “Don’t exploit dangerous creatures for entertainment and profit.” Even the horses in that movie back that up.
I haven’t watched it but if ur saying that horses will go wild animal on u then ur wrong (I mean this in the most respectful way possible)
@@Redz_Wrld he’s not watched a movie so you’ll understand.
@@Redz_Wrld you will understand this comment if you watched the movie, I don't want to spoil but if you don't care about being spoiled then basically they tried to release a horse named Lucky into the alien so that the alien would eat the horse (since the alien seem to really love horses) but the horse said Nuh Uh by just standing there doing nothing and instead it was the human who served as food for the alien
While the director where Nike’s made by slave labour lol.
Sir, i'm a wildlife vet and ethologist working for the World Animal Protection and the UNESCO biospheres and my colleagues and myself are all talking about how professional, mature and honest the way you present things is .
You have our sincere consideration.
I'm sorry but you work for... WAP?
among us
You work for the WAP!?
@@kachi2782 WAP stands for several things and this is the internet
@@Kurotekken you beat me to it
I feel so bad for Travis. What a miserable life. No other chimps near him, no real socializing, fed junk food, denied him the right to live like a normal chimp. It WAS inevitable and it WAS caused by Sandy. Took years of mistreatment that came to a brutal head. I’m so glad Charla survived.
It still sad that she had her only daughter and husband die.. depression does stuff. I partially blame it on depression
and its pretty funny after her friend got shredded to pieces by her chimp, she was like "okay im just gonna get more chimpanzees"
@@ryobaaishi9968 depression does stuff but even before all of that they set him up for failure
@@ryobaaishi9968 It's not depression - its loss of contact with reality. That is what happens when you live outside nature. Ask ANY AAANY real farmer that takes care of his livestock and has to kill them, every one that hasn't got machinery to help him will tell you about him, his grandpa or someone who was attacked by a perfectly happy animal being treated normally. Especially "fun" stories are with cows and bulls. Yeah, that sht isn't nice. You need to understand that animals are animals. Hell, watch worst dog attacks and you'll see a dog behaving like he's ancestors did - like a wolf. And this comes from a person who used to train dogs, and LOVE them. But IF you want to have a happy animal, respect them. For dogs it usually means walk them as a leader of the pack twice a day, make them have a job(ball fetching or something, whatever is appropriate) and have quality interaction with them. For wild animals it means LET THEM BE WILD ANIMALS!!!!! I THE WILD!!!! Yeeez, people are retards....poor animals...and honestly, poor people who are retards.... :/
This is a classic "nobody wins" situation.
Just because treating something like a child brings a human comfort doesn’t mean it’s good for the animal. It never is. They’re individuals and not children. Sadly this is how we humans are evolved to express love and animals seem to fall into a weird spot for us emotionally as we seem to liken them with children, wether we are aware of it or not.
My dad actually hunted around the area where Timothy camped at...Not only did Timothy set his camp up on a bear trail, he set it up near a narrow part of a river, where the biggest and oldest bears would go to catch fish, since it was easier than fishing on a wider area of the river. That, and he chose a time of year where both berries and salmon were scarce...
That's about as much in the danger zone as you can get without literally wearing a salmon necklace.
I hate that they put the bear down too because ???? It’s in the WILD?? I don’t agree with it at zoos either but i can SEE since zoos are really for people to look at them and crap but this man literally went into bear habitat at the worst time and bears have to eat. You don’t see other animals putting humans down for killing animals for food? I’m not saying yannoe fuck this man and his girl but what’s done is done. The animal shouldn’t be merked because someone thinks they’re not like other people and can go into dangerous territory. If I purposely build my house on a faultline and an earthquake occurs and breaks my house should I blow up the earth? No. It’s technically my fault.
@@kiki13451 I'm still wondering how tf they tracked it down
@@kiki13451 I do agree they shouldn't have to put down the bear for being a bear, but it was probably for safety. If that bear was able to live on it'd probably continue to hunt humans if given the chance. In the end the bear was just hungry and Timothy was the idiot that basically knowingly became a bears toothpick
@@Lechgang actually his girlfriend was wearing some kind of perfume which was known to make bears go properly nuts, not saying if it weren't for that they would still be alive but it really didn't help.
The Moe story always makes me feel so sad for Moe. He was so scared, he was in freeze mode. They tried to do what was best for him, even kept visiting him. But Moe knew only humans and never knew chimp culture or witnessed their cruelty. Poor ape, he was traumatized that day too. 😢😔😣
Even worse it was his adopted father that got mutilated
Moe also disappeared allegedly
That’s why you should never take wild animals outside their habitat place ,they took them out of Tanzania and brought it to the US ,that was already one mistake ,they also treating him like a human instead of an animal ,they are wild animals not pets .
@@Mustafa70116yeah he ran off into the mountains around a year later and hasn’t been seen since
That's actually kinda bitter sweet @@paranormeow
That transition from "Telling his friends how much fun he was having" to "Rangers found his multilated corpse" gave me chills
What how 400 likes and zero comments
@@Kumala215 There's not much else to say. And it's better the replies stay empty than be filled with five thousand ways of saying "I agree".
Not just mutilated, half if it was no longer present.
Werner Hertzog's documentary on Treadwell, called Grizzly Man, is an excellent expansion on that story. It shows plenty of his impressively intimate footage he was able to capture on his camps, whilst interviewing people with more relevant knowledge to explain why his approach was, to be charitable, not the wisest.
I didn't know Suzie was Travis's mother. That adds a whole new layer of tragedy to these stories. They should have been living in the wild together, or at the very least a real sanctuary, and instead.... heartbreaking.
Did you ever hear the story about what happened to Harambes family way before he was ever shot and killed? Look it up. It's tragic.
To make it even worse. Travis was separated from her when he was only a few days old.
@@pisces2569 Unfortunately that's not surprising with wild animals in those types of settings. The breeders and handlers do it to start human imprinting on the babies. Another example is that Joe Exotic would separate tiger cubs from their mothers shortly after being born (which is another reason to not like seeing wild animals as pets).
@@sari-kitty it really was tragic she was killed for no reason she was only curious.
@@sassytarius7884 but tiger cubs need their mothers why would he do that.
Fun Fact about starving bears, they will devour their own kids to preserve themselves and Timothy knew they were killing their babies and still didn't take that as a hint to skedadle.
In what way is this fun to you 💀
@@GottaCatchAGrip In the sense that the irony of someone who claimed to know bears ignored all warning signs because of his ego and delusion he bought into of his special connection to them. Also fun facts aren't generally fun.
@@paselitoru fair fair
@@GottaCatchAGrip its fun understanding the general norms of animals compared to humans
It's clear the guy was . . . . . unusual. Maybe he loved bears so much he offered himself and his girlfriend as a sacrifice?
I used to be a zookeeper, just reptiles and birds so no big mammals, but there's still a message that gets drilled into every new keeper: No matter how much you love the animal and no matter how much it seems to love you back, never turn your back on it
The idea of a tiger with the zoomies is downright terrifying when my own little alley cat causes me enough chaos when he gets playful with how he shreds and bites my fingers and toes when I turn around.
People are nuts to want the big wild animals.
Makes sense. Even us humans are nonetheless still a species of animal, and thus creatures of instinct first, even if we have gotten pretty good at not always acting on them due to our understanding of moral concepts and rationality. So, if we are still susceptible sometimes to lash out towards even perceived threats to our safety that aren't actually there, or to predate on a perceived vulnerability we think can be exploited to benefit us, then of course other animals can and will do the same.
The birthday cake incident was so horrific. Chewed his fingers and genitals off, ripped his face off all that. People think it's made up when I tell that story because Rogan talked about it. This story and Charlotte nash the reason I don't believe in keeping wild animals in suburbs. This content is top tier. Also I don't know what you do to your videos to make them fit the screen so big but it's fucking awesome I wish everyone would do it.
Well I don't know what you do to make them fit the screen. The way I get them, the aspect ratio is backward.
Well, bearded dragons are wild animals, you wouldn’t allow them in the suburbs?
Yeah it is crazy to hear about....you know what is crazier? Actually listening to the audio of Treadwll get eaten alive.
@@pressftopayrespects6325 you know damn well what kinds of animals they mean, it aint dinky little venomless reptiles that fit in your hands
please just get a bonobo they are way less harmless if you just give them space! STOP ADOPTING CHIMPANZEE IT WILL KILL YOU SO DONT TRY IT
The last one was so upsetting. Jason and his friends were attacked by three chimpanzees and yet he was charged for doing what I and honestly any person would do. Absolutely mind boggling.
The idea of seeing three chimps while you're minding your own business is terrifying. Possibly one of the worst things I can imagine
He literally saved the lives of himself, his friends, and his dog by ending the life of a single chimpanzee out of the three that were attacking them. And yet he’s the bad guy in this somehow. Like he said, it takes a special kinda stupid to make PETA look like the good guys.
Yeah if he didn't defend himself and the vhimps attacked him then they will all die and the chimps will be put down so I think its a better idea to just shoot the monkeys
The prosecuting attorney and the judge that allowed it both need to go to ass raping prison for a month for every day Jason was behind bars!
If it makes you feel better, the company who caused these messes to happen are bankrupt, and I am grateful to society for that
My man here has sparked a massive resurgence in zoology studies for me. Much thanks; we need more content creators like you.
@whaaa t nah screw off
There has been a video about Travis for months. He just remade it.
Ok
666 👍
Good luck with the studies
Ngl I feel bad for Moe. Even though he was a chimp and therefore COULD kill his owner, he actually got a more healthy treatment and still loved what are basically his parents, so seeing them getting gored by his own kind and being unable to do anything is sad.
Yeah the Moe story was tragic.
I was at a zoo with a large, enclosed habitat with several chimpanzees. Two were fighting & I asked a zoo keeper standing next to me what happens if one gets hurt. She said ‘They can tear the arms off a person, so unless it’s life threatening, we don’t go in there.” …Fair enough.
Yeah, I remember hearing on TH-cam or something about how most zookeeper trust lions more than Chimps.
remember a zookeeper saying something similar when i went on a trip to one. She says that out of all the animals on the park 'you dont mess with chimps'. she says any other anima she'll happily handle with but chimps is the one animal she'd refuse to go into the enclosure with and doesnt understand why others would do so.
Chimps are also onsight kills if they break out while big Cats usually get tranq
That reminds me, I forget which zoo I was at, but they were feeding the Chimpanzees and the zookeeper was going along the outside of the enclosure and putting food through the bars and kept walking. That seemed smart to me since not only was the food not all in one place for them to fight over, but when the chimps came running over to see what was put in, she wasn't anywhere near it when they got there. And even then there were some smart ones who seemed ready to take it right out of her hand by going ahead on the route. Zookeepers are smart to keep as much distance as they can from these guys.
lol, that’s a chimp
Remind me of that time I watched a short clip that 2 silverbacks were fighting and the people there was yelling and try to cancel the zoo keeper for not jump in there to stop them
What he’s gonna do then 😂😂
The thought of keeping primates as a pet or be in close contact with one unnerves me and maybe for a good reason. Mostly its because they have a resemblance to us but with more hair and solve problems better than some humans.
"Makes a special kind of people to make Peta the good guy" mate that's gold.
And they probably have at least 10 times the amount of strength a normal human has...
Legit the only possible way an ape could be a pet is by intensive selective breeding like the Russians did with foxes. You canNOT plop a totally wild animal in a home and say it's a pet.
@@DinnerForkTongue Donno, maybe but the more intelligence an animal has, the more you have to interact with it and give it enough enrichment. I have two huskies and their more than enough as it can be like having two toddlers in the house.
You're right to be unnerved. Chimpanzees are some of the most uniquely monstrous animals in nature; they are intelligent enough to understand cruelty, and actively use it to cow "lower ranked" chimps and especially their females. They're a lot like us, but with less restraint and quieter consciences.
@Blxnded
Go away, bot
One of the worst crimes against an animal performer I've ever heard of is the sad tale of Sultan, the tiger that played Ra, the black tiger from the movie Beastmaster.
Sultan was actually a plain old regular vanilla box-standard tiger, but the filmmakers wanted him to look more unique, or I guess you could say "cooler" so they dyed the big cat actor black. Wouldn't be so bad except the dye they used was toxic and caused the big cat's health to deteriorate until he passed away two years later...
Moral of the story:
1. Hollywood executives are pure evil.
2. If you want a tiger in your movie, don't mess with the fur colour! The fact it's a tiger commands respect enough!
thats f up. plus they could have just used cgi or smth ://///
@@briciolaa This was the 80's. CGI was non existent. Stop motion, maybe, but defintiely not CGI
@@cjtheprop-maker ohh oop didnt know that. i thought it was more recent!! still super sad
@@cjtheprop-maker, actually, it wasn't mainstream. One of the first Pixar shorts dates back to the 80s
@@cjtheprop-maker There was CGI, but it was in its infancy.
It was used just to experiment with animation. Like how the guy said down below, Pixar was around but their animation is still crude in comparison nowadays.
Let's not forget Industrial Light & Magic, that was created by George Lucas to push the animation of digital effects further.
It was used sparingly in certain films like Young Sherlock Holmes, The Abyss and several others.
The girlfriend in the Grizzly Man death (Amy Huegenard) didn’t “just scream,” and she stayed with him while he was being attacked despite him yelling at her to leave and try to escape. She likely used a frying pan to try beat the bear off her boyfriend (there were sounds they thought were a frying pan being hit swing around, but as it’s just audio, it’s unclear, but probably not the guy being mauled by a underfed grizzly).
She easily could have choose to run as her boyfriend told her to do, but stayed and attempted to help get him away from the bear, and was killed as well.
Love kills 😢
Love is nice and all, but she'd be about as much good hitting that thing with a pool noodle
@@apputaiparambil
That’s pretty cynical.
@@whathell6t it is what is, not what it could be, maybe it could but yes
Wrong time for loyalty and bravery
This is what I love about the original two jurassic park movies, they are not heroes, villians, or monsters, they are just animals, plain and simple.
I completely agree
Right. I always saw it as humans basically trying to survive in the past. Rather than characterized antagonists, the dinosaurs are glorified environmental hazards. Humans didn't exist at the same time as dinosaurs for a reason.
Except with the Spinosaurus. That thing went so far out of its way to run everyone's shit. I think they forgot to model his black AFs during production.
Nah if you read the books they were just making em into monsters
I fucking hated dominion that movie was shit the only good Jurassic park movies are the first 3
They "just...do what they do🤷♂️".
I think it's weird that certain people always want wild animals as pets. I'm still at the "took baths with him."
Yeah, that's a whole new level of creepy. They needed grief counseling over losing their daughter, not a "pet" wild animal.
I'm an animal lover but, I couldn't even imagine owning a wild animal
They’re not right in the head
I AGREE.......MY FRIENDS DOG TRIES TO WATCH ME TAKE SHOWERS AND I WANT TO GET RID OF HIM, LET ALONE A CHIMP!!!
Yeah ain't no telling what they were doing to that damn chimp yuck
For those who misunderstood, Moe didn't attack his owner. Other chimps did. Poor Moe was also traumatized after seeing what other chimpanzees did to Davis
Poor Moe, he deserved better
and didn't He say that the Event terrified Moe so much that He appeared paralyzed?
Poor moe...
Saddest part is, after the attack, moe was transferred to another place, and disappeared never to be seen again. He was thought to have escaped, but it would've been likely for him to be found or return to the facility. He was never found.
ugh what horrible trauma. He basically witnessed his father being mauled.
That movie NOPE haunts me. The chimp stuff, the psychopath aging child star, the horse sacrifices… I guess it’s probably the best horror movie I’ve ever seen. But it wounded me.
It's a movie so good I don't think I'll ever watch it again.
I guess you could say “Nope” when someone asks you to watch it again…
My aunt was a showgirl in Vegas till the early 80s. She became very close to Sigfried and Roy because she had no fear and would pet the tigers like they were poodles. She says they loved their tigers, even the inbred ones that were too stunted to be trained. Of all the crazy stuff she experinced in those years she said she felt safer hanging with Sigfried and Roy's tigers than the guys in the casinos.
The lies Roy said were 100% trying to protect his tiger from being put down for the attack. He clearly loved his animals.
@@DiamondPugs I do think he did the right thing in that situation. Sure, he lied a lot, but it was to protect something that could have easily killed him right then and there if it wanted to. Plus, I think he understood that the tiger wasn't really at fault.
I think that speaks volumes about those casino guys... 0_0
@@Scarshadow666 oh most definitely.
that says a lot about the guys in the casinos
An additional note to this already horrific story. Travis was given a dose of anti-depressants by his caregiver, Sandra, without a doctor's/vet's evaluation.
So Sandra just gave doses based off of her own beliefs on what she thought he needed. It's speculated that the attack on Sandra's friend, Charla Nash, was caused by Travis having heavy, negative side effect to the meds, causing hysteria.
Sandra was negligent and had the choice to call for professional help when Travis was having his breakdown. Instead, she called Charla to help her control Travis. Sad fact, supposedly Charla often felt uneasy around Travis and only helped as much as she did over the years to support her friend, Sandra.
Charla Nash lost both her eyes and cannot see anymore. The eyes you see in her most recent photos are glass eyeballs.
If you listen to the 911 call when this attack was occurring, it was incredibly haunting. The screams of Charla in the background while Sandra was losing it over the phone.
Rest in peace to Travis and a long, peaceful life for Charla. I pray that no one ever does what Sandra does, ever again.
She had beyond forgot she was dealing with a wild animal and had completely personified him into a, well, person. And ignored the signs of adoescents they knew and were warned about over and over again. She was essentially mentally ill and it was a grieving teenage chimp on xanax. Just sad all around.
Nice sentiments but don't worry they will
It's just so tragic, because there were so many points where Sandra could have prevented it from happening, but she just didn't, and Charla and Travis paid the price.
Its perfectly possible that the meds had nothing to do with the attack, and Travis decided he didnt like this person for whatever reason. Maybe she forgot to say hi once. I only say this to discourage people from having pet chimps, even if they wont be drugging them. Their capacity for violence is not something you want to roll the dice on.
Don't worry, it gets worse.
You hit the nail on the head about Travis being the ultimate victim. I'm pretty desensitized to a lot of things, but this story always hits my emotions because he was like a giant kid. He wasn't happy and did what animals do and he, as well as his victim, paid the price. It's just sad story all around.
I don't feel bad for him, even when free in the wild chimps still manage to offend and disgust me.
Yes it would be better if he was free in the wild but at the same time either way he'd end up sucking.
@@du6167 Yes, we're well aware...
Actually the lady who was his owner gave him drugs, that's why he did what he did
@@sexymskat And the ones in the zoo who witnessed the other chimp's birthday party?
F*** the chimp man! It ate the woman's face
One of the many upsetting points in here was that officer(s) were denied therapy. Had it been a human who had done those things, they totally would’ve been provided counseling. Another round of applause for our healthcare system. I can’t even begin to imagine the PTSD from that, nor do I want to.
It is messed up, but they also could've probably avoided the necessity for therapy if they had done something about the reported aggression of Travis before then. Or when the law was passed that you can't own a wild animal over a certain weight limit, and they just didn't do anything about Travis being over 200lbs.
Considering Suzie had attacked humans, or tried to, wouldn't she have been put down anyway if Jason hadn't shot her? Either way, I side with Jason. Wild animal threatening my pet baby? Yeah, it's going down same as if it threatened me. I'm surprised he didn't counter sue Chimp Party for emotional trauma; one would think Jason would have an easy win there!
You would think that Jason would have been in the right since Suzie was attacking him and his family, even if she was tranquillized, chimps have black air force energy and she was probably still going
@@perhaps1131 Something tells me that her being tranquilized was a false claim by Chimp Party so they could have grounds for legal action, otherwise, they'd be shit outta luck and outta money.
Plus he was 18 and in a high stress situation where he, his friends, and his dog were being attacked by not one not two but *THREE* 250 lb wild animals whether or not he knew it was tranked doesn't matter it was a high stress panicked situation where of course the terrified and likely traumatized teenager was going to shoot at the aggressors
Chimp Party, probably much like travis' family, likely had a lot of social capital with the locals, and not to mention probably money to operate as they did. those two combine to create a pretty definitive way for people to get away with almost anything.
It's because America's justice system is heavily favored towards corporate interests, and justice more often than not simply bends for those with the highest amount of money. You people have no rights. The US is an oligarchy. Enjoy.
Honestly, I feel bad for both the bear and Timothy's girlfriend. The girlfriend has expressed how uncomfortable she was during the trip and even wanted to leave. I'm sorry for Timothy's family but he more or less got his girlfriend and the bear killed. With love comes respect and if you really love an animal, you leave it the eff alone...
This is the perfect example of the fact that love doesn't automatically mean respect. No doubt in my mind that the man loved those bears, but he lacked respect for them, and that lack of respect ultimately cost him and his girlfriend their lives
Nothing "more or less" about it, his actions and blatant disregard for literally everybody around him, including the person he's in a relationship with, _directly_ led to his own, his girlfriend's, and the bear's deaths. He has nobody to blame but himself and his own stubborn delusions.
Man, it traumatized the heck out of the cops that went there... like wth, Chimpanzees are scary
She did, so many times that this is bad. AND HE IGNORED HER. smh
There's a phrase that says "a fed animal is a dead animal." I don't know if he was feeding them but same principle. Animals that hurt humans get put down, and doing stuff like feeding them or hanging around them while they're extremely hungry makes them much more likely to hurt humans.
Some “fun” facts about the bear guy, Tim that op didn’t mention, and got a little wrong:
1.) It wasn’t Rangers who found their bodies, it was a pilot who flew Tim back and forth to the bears, and their bodies weren’t alone when he found them, they were still being eaten.
2.) Tim knew the bear that killed them, and he didn’t like the bear. I believe he nicknamed it Grumpy, because he was an old bear, and didn’t care for Tim. Grumpy was also missing teeth, and the ones he wasn’t missing were just stumps.
3.) Going off of #2, because Grumpy’s teeth were so bad, he couldn’t kill Tim and his gf as fast as other healthier bears could, which means Tim’s and his gf’s deaths were slow and painful.
4.) In the recording (transcription) Tim told his gf to run, but she refused and tried to help him as he was attacked first. It would have been futile for her to run though as there was nowhere to go. They were too deep in the woods where the only way in or out was a small plane with a small runway in the middle of nowhere, and she didn’t have the radio.
5.) When the pilot found their bodies Grumpy was chewing on Tim’s rib cage, and he had already buried some of their remains for later.
5.) Grumpy was killed and their body parts were exhumed for burial, but not all of them were found. So little was found that altogether they could fit into one casket.
.) This could have been avoided had Tim decided to leave when he originally wanted to because they were there during bear’s preparation for hibernation where they become desperate to eat as much as possible, and Grumpy with his messed up teeth was especially desperate.
About the slow death the bear could stilm end you quickly with its claw or weight
@@Blaze-xe8cl true, but that’s not what happened to them.
Also, didn't the girlfriend not want to go on the trip in the first place? Such a tragedy all around.
@@alexanderk.6869 she was only interested because he was, and she loved him.
@@alexanderk.6869 Ah, yes! The girl is always the victim of the case! Nah, she's a grown up adult. She should have checked her bad boy fetishes and not follow a guy who tries to suicide. We all pay for our mistakes. Some times, they price is TOO HIGH!
Travis was such a tragic character. These animals don't stand a chance: they're taken out of their natural environment, domesticated until they can never be released back into the wild, yet never truly tamed and so inevitably become too wild for human society. And then they're stuck in limbo, usually in the care of people who don't respect them as animals and cannot provide them with what they need to truly be happy.
What if they're a cat or dog?
@@GiordanDiodatodomestic cats and dogs are that, domesticated. They're already used to being around humans and it's only with certain breeds (pitbulls) where people intentionally breed some to be attack dogs, and that's why they keep trending for all the wrong reasons.
@@GiordanDiodatoThey are not wild animals and you still have to fulfill their specific animal needs. This woman was even giving alcohol to Travis, she didn't even try to provide Travis with what chimpanzees need, she cared about herself having a 'child'
"Denied therapy." Damn that's cold. I didn't know we lived in a world where you can tell someone they're not allowed to have basic mental health services.
It can happen if the client is too dangerous for anyone to help.
and a police officer, the kind of person you'd want most to be emotionally stable
Didn't that mean the police force wouldn't pay for it?
Therapy is a service like any other, you can be denied by having no one willing to work with you.
Also, we live in a world where literally everything can be taken away from you, illegally there's nothing stopping some nutter from grabbing you and stuffing you in a basement, Well there is one thing trying to stop people from doing that it's called the government but they have, we'll say mixed results.
Legally well it's the government throwing you in the basement. Again mixed results but going to say it leans to one side.
He was allowed to go seek therapy himself, just unlike other cops who see fucked up shit, the department refused to pay for it.
Travis was a well behaved monkey until he reached adulthood and sexual maturity
They didn't take that testosterone seriously. Sandra's husband actually asked her to send Travis to a sanctuary when he was dying because he was afraid she wouldn't be able to handle him alone but she couldn't give him up. It was a mess all around
So how did he transform from a monkey into an ape?
Chimpanzees are apes, like humans, actually. Pretty sure they're our closest relative species.
pretty sure they gave him crack
@@user-it2kq4ty9q I think only she gave him drugs. I mean Xanax, Alcohol, etc.
Admittedly, it would have been a very hard time for Travis to have such a sudden change in life, but it still would have been a better end than what he got
I sincerely believe that part of being a true animal lover is having an appreciation for every side of them... Which includes respecting the danger they bring.
Honestly, respect here is such an important word. You have to RESPECT nature and animals, not just do whatever you want. Animals are fascinating, wonderful beautiful, and dangerous. So are humans, just as any animal, but we like to ignore all that and think ooooo pretty monkey. I’m not saying nobody can enjoy nature, but if you’re going to, you better respect it
Well said. It's honestly a kind of condescending view of wild animals when people view them as just cute, not recognising that they are wild animals with their own instincts and intentions, and sometimes their intention is to harm humans, hence why humans should always keep their distance. I mean, even domesticated animals can be dangerous, but with wild animals, that danger and unpredictability is amped up to 11.
Exactly everyone online loves to say oh my god this dangerous wild killing machine is so cute. Oh my God I want to pet it. It just needs a hug. No he needs to get out of this cage. It’s locked in and wants to go fucking roam around Africa not be locked in a fake confinement area and then people say I would love to own it. It’s so cute are the same type of people to be mailed and be faceless. Because they are so dumb they can’t recognize it’s a WILD ANIMAL🤦🏽♂️
I will respect them from a very far away place lol
as much as I joke about how "I'm going to die doing something stupid" and "My toxic trait is thinking that the lion will sense my good vibes and let me pet it", I am well aware that animals can be very dangerous, especially wild ones. I love them, but I will respect and enjoy the sight of them from a distance(Or the safety of my car if I'm out for a drive)
I'm a bit surprised you went over the story of Timothy Treadwell but not that of Siberian girl Olga Moskalyova back in 2011. That's the one that made me swear never to go near bears. It gives me goosebumps every time my daughter who lives in Montana tells me she's going camping.
What happened to her?
I just read the article and it was horrific. Olga had phoned her mom three times as it was happening. The mother bear didn't kill her instantly, no, it also brought her cubs. By her last phone call Olga said it no longer hurt.
@@SK-rs1hu to make a long story short, a Olga Moskalyova was eaten alive by a mother bear and her cubs ... while calling her mother.
Because it doesn't fit with the theme of the video, people forgetting that animals are still animals, and it's impossible to domesticate most of them. While that incident is horrifying, it's a result of a wild animal attacking someone, not because the people were foolish enough to approach them thinking they had them domesticated.
It took me 5 seconds to find out that story is fake. Maybe that's why.
Yeah, it never fails to hit me a bit deeper every time I’m reminded about how Travis ran off to go inside and lay down next to his cage while he was in the process of dying after being shot… it’s just a very VERY heartbreaking detail in my opinion.
He was done torturing his victim, so he chose to die because he got what he wanted out of life.
@@Tarnished-bn5gq
Way to villainize an animal. I'm not gonna defend a chimp on TH-cam, but man, you sure are one simple-minded fellow. Always thinking black and white eh?
And that’s why you should never ever has a chimpanzee as a pet.
@@Tarnished-bn5gqbro animals aren't capable of that level of thought LMAO
I remember going down a rabbit hole years ago about the James Davis story. Even read an interview he did. Pretty sad considering it wasn't even Mo who did any of the damage. If I remember correctly, the chimps actually escaped from their cage while watching them have the cake with Mo. It also wasn't the first time they escaped... which calls into question how that place was run. If you're serious about keeping animals in cages make sure the locks cannot be broken. Also, I believe Mo escaped into the woods after that incident and was never found again.
Damn plot twist mo set that whole thing up so he could bounce up outta there
MO WAS NEVER FOUND??
@@FirePuncher183 Mo to this day was never found. Feel bad for little Mo. He was probably so traumatised.
@@bironjames9948 Moe escaped 2 years after the incident.
As far as I know, the chimps didn't even break the locks. Their cage had 3 gates and 2 of them were completely unlocked, go figure.
Okay, I already thought the picture of Travis holding the baby looked creepy as hell, but then seeing the whole “almost always a sign of aggression” thing made me have to pause the video while it sank in.
Oh my god
I never thought a picture of a smile would terrify me to that level
Wallah chimps are scary af
Well the chimp only grew up with humans, so it wouldn't associate smiling with aggression
"I genuinely hope none of you got laid" haha I was thinking the same thing 🤣😂 12:07
Let me get this straight, a man gets 30 days in jail and charged with a felony for defending the life of his dog, his friends, and himself, against one of the most homicidal life forms on the face of the Earth that was a clear and present danger, what the actual f***.
Yup. The human race is doomed
There are two stories. He either shot an already tranquilized animal that was obviously no threat anymore or defended against an attacking animal that still was a threat. Not as clear cut as you make it out to be.
@@raisindrahgon wats the point they were gonna put down the chimp anyways
Now imagine when his dog would escape just to explore, some dumb fuck kids would fuck with making the dog defend itself and surely biting, and let's say the bite is not that horrible, painful as fuck and will leave a scar but not fatal. The owner is gonna be sued and the dog could be put down.
@@raisindrahgon yeah but whose story was that the chimp was already tranqed? Chimp Party's? That's immediately sus since they would need that story to seek legal action, and they would definitely want to cover their losses somehow.
These stories kind of remind me of something that happened where I’m from. Our national park has lots of elk and tourists had been told not to feed them. For whatever reason people seem to think they know more than the park rangers and continued to feed them, because of this one of the male elks became very comfortable around people and started to expect food. During their rut season which is around September through October is also when we have the most tourists and a man trying to photograph them was attacked by the male elk. He had to be put down and everyone came after the park rangers for doing it but had they listened to the park rangers to begin with this may not have ever happened.
I'm from the same kind of place where people just don't respect nature. Seeing people get close to the elk is already infuriating, but even with bears who you'd think the average person knew a little bit more about, you'll see tourists getting close to them for a selfie and it pisses me off so badly, because that's extremely dangerous... for the bear.
@@sross9501 I have no sympathy at all for any of these idiots. What really bothers me are the ones who put their children in harms way all for an instagram or facebook pic. IMO they should be charged with child endangerment.
I couldn't be a park ranger because I'd have to deal with people. The animals are fine.
Animal handlers always get blamed for this shit but they're usually the ones desperately trying to make sure it DOESN'T happen.
A stupid parent at Yellowstone tried to put their kid on the back of a BISON. Luckily nobody was hurt
Even as scary as the animals are due to their nature, I can’t help but feel bad for em being in situations they have no right being put in because of how much the blame often gets put on them rather than people being dumb. I’m glad over here we agree it’s people’s fault at least.
what about the cake story? is that still the human fault?
@@Dave_of_Mordor yeah if they had been properly informed they would’ve known that was a terrible idea the chimps were being chimps
I know right. But arent Jaguars dope!? I want one so bad!! I wont adopt one I know better. But they are so dope!!!
@@geekgirl616Are you kidding me?
@@ripKIKO-vj8ti Smart person...please keep knowing better. I was a zookeeper a long time ago, & was working in the zoo hospital (which is also where new animals are often quarantined) when a new jaguar was brought in. Her name was Missy & she'd grown up with a Hollywood animal trainer. She was very human socialized, but her trainer had given her up b/c big cats stay wild animals, no matter how young they're gotten by humans, & she'd gotten unpredictable. Missy's situation was heartbreaking; she was confined to a fairly small cage while waiting for her quarantine time to pass, & (like all the big cats, all the time) absolutely no one was allowed in with her. She couldn't understand why her former friends wouldn't play with her, & petting her thru the chain link was not satisfying to her. She never would be able to be with her own kind OR humans, for the rest of her life. Her life was a miserable mess, because humans tried to make her be something she could never be. (Chimps are even worse, "taming"-wise.) Ever time I think of that poor big cat, so lost, confused, & depressed, it makes me want to cry.
That last story really is the "The worst person you know you just made a good point" meme
Or "a stopped clock is right twice a day"
I love this guy. Now that school is back I can ruin everyone’s favorite animal. The look in their faces when I tell them stuff is hilarious
you evil evil human.
same
I do this all the time, the look on my old teachers face when I told them that llamas spit out half digested food was *priceless!*
That's a real A*hole thing to do, yet funny.
@our hero fr???? is It FINALLY here???? 90% of the entire earth has been waiting for this THANK YOU, YOU ARE OUR HERO!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yesss im with you for ruining 👏 every 👏 single 👏 ONE
I did volunteer work with big cats once, one thing I will never forget was the time we fed a tiger a quarter of a cow.
It took almost three of us to carry it into the confinement and the tiger picked it up with as much ease as a dog with a stick.
In my country, bog means toilet room, I have no idea what the fuck you mean
@@c.d.rstudios4691 dog 🐕
@@c.d.rstudios4691 they probably meant "dog" and misspelled
@@Shovel________________ yeah, that makes a lot of sense in the context
@@c.d.rstudios4691in the u.s. Bog is used to describe a swamp or something being "bogged down" like slowed down or hampered by something. Yeah this is certainly a typo. I didn't understand it either at first lol
Reality is often scarier than fiction
Reality is often disappointing
Reality can be whatever I want
It’s kind of sad
Reality and life is bad now a days since wars escalate and more problems cause people to turn against others life is a beautiful lie while death is the horrible truth
Nope, somebody else here in the comment section already said the quote but there's a quote "reality is often disappointing" is far more fitting for reality, yes truly sick shit and sick people exist on our world but have you ever sat down and really thought about how terrifying some concepts from certain novels are like the Cthulhu Mythos, or even modern web series like the monument Mythos, imagine being forcefully swapped from one Universe to to another and forced to live with people who are Vaguely Familiar to your loved ones but you know they're not them
A pair of chimps tearing Davis to shreds is pretty horrific, but ALSO, I can't imagine how horrific it would be to go to a hospital, teetering on the edge of death, and have them just go, "nah!" and refuse to treat you like you were already a corpse. That's terrible.
I agree, siding with PETA is a feat. They are almost extremists when it comes to animals, but for them to condemn that foundation was a good idea.
Even a broken clock is right at least once a day.
It’s twice a day but sure
They are extremists when it comes to animals.
...I do not disagree with PETA on this thing.
@@evanlight2550 Twice a day might be a lot for peta
Fun fact: only one person has heard the grizzly man audio. The director for the documentary “grizzly man”. He immediately teared up and told the owner to destroy the tape immediately. She did not
Whoever's holding that cursed tape should've destroyed it, literally what reason is there to keep it? For the documentary? Sure. But AFTER???
@@klltx2001 A single documentary is still an interpretation. So if more people would want to make documentaries of this danger they would need the original audio to get less bias and not be the interpretation of an interpretation. Also same reason why concentration camps are museums now in germany, as a warning.
This video made me curious about Timothy Treadwell. I wound up watching that documentary. Quick correction in that I don't think Werner Herzog was the only one to hear the audio...I think the coroner for Treadwell and his girlfriend did, too.
The scene where Herzog listens to the audio is gonna stick with me literally for the rest of my life, I think...we don't even SEE his face, but we don't need to. It's enough; it was enough to make that friend of Treadwell's break down crying.
I think he later retracted his 'You must destroy this tape' statements, acknowledging that the audio he heard was so gruesome that he was still in horrified shock and not thinking clearly when he made them, but honestly? I don't blame him for making them. But neither do I blame her for what she did with it; if she HAD destroyed it, I would understand, but to this day, that tape is held in a safe, and only she knows the code. I can't begin to imagine what a horrible thing it must be for her to hold onto...
In her shoes, I honestly don't know what I would have done.
(ALSO don't quote me on this, but I've heard that some people working on the documentary wanted the audio from the tape to be used IN the documentary. You know, for everyone who ever watched it to hear. Werner Herzog, himself, very forcefully put his foot down against that idea. Or so I've heard.)
@@klltx2001 so some curious soul like myself can one day buy it for my private collection of messed up things that's why
That audio is on the internet. She is definitely not the only one. Listened to it years ago
Moe, the chimp's story has a sad ending. The sanctuary where he was living claimed he ran away into the woods. They said they searched but couldn't find him.
The couple who owned him never believed that story because Moe had always lived in a house with people. They didn't think it was plausible that he would decide to return to nature. They were always suspicious that he was killed in some sort of accident and the sanctuary covered it up. Poor Moe.
I’m 1000% sure they failed to properly integrate him with the other chimps and he got killed in a attack. You’re asking an animal that had never interacted with chimps in his life to suddenly live with them
@@mndiaye_97 Not only that, but Moe was, at least from what I could tell, an exception to the rule when it comes to Chimps interacting with Humans as Moe was not why He and those around him had their lives turned upside down, but it was another two random chimps who ruined his life and the Humans around him to me adds a lot more tragedy to this since Moe was that scarce exception among chimps of being a passive chimp only to have two other chimps ruin his life and that of the two humans that raised him.
@@InquisitorXarius yyeah because really mo probably would have shared the cake anyway...
perhaps these chimps are more like us in that way.
..but i do think its common knowledge to not feed animals in front of other animals since tthey all want to be fed too but...mmhhmm
@@Murdermagictricks Agreed
Exactly, feeding him cake in view of other chimps was a dumb move. Even if they didn't escape I bet they'd be pissed off at Moe and probably hurt him later
Props to Roy for telling them not to kill the tiger as he was literally bleeding/stroking out. Tigers gonna tiger, he understood that.
"It takes a special type of people to make PETA the good guy."
Yup.
Who’s peta?
same question
@@SherlyndxsPeople for the ethical treatment of animals.
@@Sherlyndxs peta is an acronym for "People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals." A group of nuts that believe having pets is equal to SLAVERY. And human rights should extend to ALL animals. They (there was a large group) are as stupid crazy as the dummies who adopt wild animals. If you think I exaggerate, they have protested pig farms where pigs are raised to provide heart valves for transplant and insulin for diabetics.
@@Sherlyndxs The People for Ethical Treatment of of Animals, rabid animal rights activists, often do more harm than good.
When I was watching the movie, all I could think was "Yep. Casual Geographic's gonna make a video on this." So excited when I saw this pop up!
ayy, sorry to bother dude but i just wan know: does the entire video contain spoilers for the movie? i rlly don't want take chances in seeing spoilers while skimming thru the vid to see if he talks about something else lol
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@@travelsizedhispasian Nope! No major major spoilers, just some vague references to things that happen in the movie, mainly focused around 1 scene. 10/10 would recommend seeing the movie too though, very good, very creepy.
@@shortsunflower2325 thanks for the heads up! i am def gon watch the movie whenever i get the chance cause i loved Us, Get Out, & Antebellum sm lol
once again, thank you! ^^
The fact that PETA were actually RIGHT in the last story is probably the biggest shock of this entire video.
You know it’s bad when PETA has the moral high ground on you.
Not really, PETA thinks humans should not have any animals at all, so it’s right in line with their normal dogma.
@The Stonefish with amount of animals they abuse and kill for their animals rights hard on, it would be for the worst for the animals involved
Travis' berserk smile while holding that baby is a different kind of nightmare altogether, seeing what he have done to the lady. 1:00
I remember when roy got attacked by the white tiger. I had respect for Roy that he did not blame the animal. That Roy was pretty much dying and asking people not to hurt the tiger says a lot about Roy's character.
Well he was working with tigers, I still think he was an idiot for that💀
It says that he was stupid
says he understood it was his own fault, not the animals@@karolswieboda1781
Yeah and he’s still a brain 💀 Id e it. For trying to work with such animals.
@@kenysulivan95Someone has to do it.
Honestly, I always felt uneasy seeing chimps in movies or shows wearing clothes and being treated like human kids. It just never sat well with me. I much preferred to learn about chimps by watching them in a wildlife documentary in their natural habitat. My gut feeling had been right all along.
And learning about chimps in their natural habitat is already uncanny, so that says a lot.
tbh i think thats part of the reason the chimp in Nope was CGI, using a real one would've been hypocritical. That and you probably couldn't safely teach a chimp to pretend to do the things they showed it doing in the movie
Yeah same here, I think they’re ugly and never understood why people think they’re cute
@@chammybooo3232 thought I was the only one lol. Honestly, not only is it cruel and stupid, they’re also so ugly
Idiots who believe the speculation that humans were monkeys also believes that if you treat monkeys like humans they will eventually learn and start behaving and communicating like humans.
The other thing about anti-anxiety meds for animals is it can unmask aggression. Sometimes fear/anxiety will inhibit an animal from attacking but, when you remove that... Poor Travis was basically set up for failure and the woman who was attacked did not deserve what happened - my heart absolutely goes out to her. This is why wild animals are not pets. Tame isn't the same as domesticated.
They said that
Problem is that humans think that animals live through their feelings same as humans. Which is not the case.
Yeah, I think animals attacking BECAUSE of anxiety would make a lot more sense to the avg person
Gotta love the channel for the fact that you're not describing actions of wild animals as crazy or otherwise abnormal but simply them being what they are and doing what they do by nature.
People really like to forget that the only abnormal act of a wild animal is when it treats a human like their friend.
Especially after everything that humanity has done to those animals in the past, I just can't help but think that absolutely every animal dislikes us by default (and rightfully so).
Just to add a bit more to the Tredwell story, but the infamous "Death Recording" was actually given to his mother and she listened to it on a show about Tredwell on TLC several years back.
Basically, his mother heard his and his girlfriends last ever words as they were being killed and eaten. Pretty heavy stuff.
My understanding was that it was Werner Hertzog that listened to it, and was so disturbed he begged them never ever to listen to it and lock it away forever.
@@mikalero it's on tape, him listening to it. He stops it and tells the ex-gf (friend) - the owner of the tape, to destroy it. He later said he was wrong to say that, and was happy she didn't. It does illustrate how horrifying that must have been. The coroner who did the autopsies (of what was left), also relayed some of the events, but the tape itself is in a vault somewhere.
is there a clip of it somewhere?
@@flap.d.jack247 - this is the reenactment audio clip. th-cam.com/video/R5JUWSgXNKY/w-d-xo.html
Werner listening to the tape. th-cam.com/video/wUf0QFFi2Mk/w-d-xo.html
It's insanity that the guy gunning down 3 chimps with murderous intent, possibly saving himself, his friends and his dog, got into trouble like the "expensive merchandise" as the chimps were being treated as, were more important then their potential lives.
I feel for the animals that got killed (sounds like they were severely mistreated by the party group), but I think any rational person person would do what he did or at least be understanding.
Most places don't have animal rights laws. So in the case of injury or smthn, that's really your only recourse. That said, screw them.
I actually had the chance to go to a sanctuary were many of the big cats from Tiger King were placed after that fiasco. It’s in Colorado and while you can walk around it’s all elevated so you aren’t in the animals territory. So while it was hard to see the animals at times, I felt good knowing I wasn’t stressing them and that those cats were in a much better place after that torture.
I have a lot of respect for Roy though… glad he didn’t want his tiger killed.
I dunno what is it but I’m really liking this whole “reasons humans shouldn’t own wild animals” themed videos. Keep it up!
Same
I'm a professional snake keeper and have venomous snakes. It's these dumbasses that treat animals like humans that shouldn't own animals (although a tiger is wildly different from a rattlesnake that will just sit in its cage) and no I never touch them I have a hook for that.
@@pjenestratsienatie1876 yeah, and not just people who treat them like humans, but also people who treat them like props, commodities, trophies, or collectibles.
@@pjenestratsienatie1876 I’ve heard that despite being the most venomous snakes in the world, Inland Taipans are actually pretty passive and easier to interact with than a Rattle Snake or King Cobra. Is that true?
@@pjenestratsienatie1876 yeah, but I don't think people that want big mammals as pets really register that they are still wild animals, whereas with snakes and reptiles in general everyone understands it's not going to do whatever you want and never hurt you. But the potential risk of a tiger or chimp is far greater than the most venomous snakes. If you get bitten by a snake we have effective first aid to slow the spread of venom and effective treatment with antivenoms. And while this is happening the snake can't/won't really do anything to actively keep trying to kill you, because humans aren't in their weight class and they know it. A chimp or tiger on the other hand can rip you in half, and modern medicine isn't nearly as useful when you're bleeding out. And whilst snakes can be caught safely with the right gear, to get a big mammal you need tranqs, which are risky and slow, or to just kill it outright.
So they arrested someone for defending not only themself, but his friends (including his dog), but decided to tranquilize a chimpanzee when they get more pissed off by it? Yeah, I can see why this is the only time i side with PETA
Yeah I thought tranquilizing them makes them more angry before they finally get knocked out by them? 100% side with Jason on this
Rare PETA W.
As they say "a broken clock is right twice a day".
Harambe.
Yeah, I’m with Jason on this, I’m just glad he didn’t try to fight it head on, otherwise his *ahem* “skin chandelier” wouldn’t still be attached. He was imo 100% in the right, and am so glad he was able to save his friends and his puppy
"It takes a special type of people to make PETA the good guy." I think that might be one of the best Darwin award quotes I've ever heard.
Wtf he just said that when I read this comment
True
The last story was frightening but so glad they ended up okay. Absolutely crazy that someone would get into trouble for defending their friends and dog from a group of crazed chimps.
The justice system is beyond screwed up is someone goes to jail for that. Judge and jury should've read a more law books or had more compassion for the dude whose dog was in danger.
My grandmother bought a small monkey as a pet when my mom was young (I don’t remember the species, but she said it was fairly small). My mom said the monkey was very angry and threw its shit everywhere. Go figure. Luckily my grandma was smart enough to give it away after a short time. The 60s/70s in Detroit were wild.
Oh yeah, they were weird times. My father had a pet monkey for a short time. According to him at least. While he was living with his parents, my grandmother was given a little monkey. it had been abused at its last home. To the point where its tail didn't grow fur anymore, because of the scarring. It couldn't sit properly either.
He and my grandmother both said it was the nastiest little animal they ever had. According to my dad, it finally broke out of it's cage one night and froze to death outside. Because tropical animals don't do well in Canada.
I'm skeptical of my father's story. Because they have lied about the specifics on animal deaths in the past. As he had/has a 'bad habit' of letting other peoples pets get lost. Including my parrot years later. Where he'd just take her outside and let her fly off. (Fortunately she never wandered too far and never too high. We could always retrieve her.) But I do trust my grandmother a bit more. So I know that at least they had that monkey, and it was injured.
@@13wolfy13 if I had a nickel for every time I've heard a story of a monkey freezing to death because it was a pet I'd have two nickels(which isn't a very much but it's weird it happened twice)
But seriously my great grandma bought my mother and her sister a monkey for a pet when they were kids along with a few other weird animals(mostly birds) and they only had it for a short time apparently it was just a weird pet in general but when a flash freeze warning went out they left their house to go to relatives( so they would all be stuck together rather than apart in case of an emergency) and left all of their animals behind in their house *with no heat* so they all froze to death including the monkey. My mother still tells this like it's a funny story and not horrifying which is a common trend with my mother's stories
Edit: had to fix grammar mistakes
We had a lady in my hometown who owned a lemur. Ended up attacking someone, and I don't remember if she gave it up or not.
My mom had a friend as a kid whose family had some type of ape or monkey as a pet. She could never bring any of her friends over because he would start touching himself as soon as a female walked in the room.
Fun fact: Jim Jones, the founder of the People's Temple Church, was a door to door monkey salesman in the 60's, so your grandmother might have met him.
Always frustrates me when people act shocked and horrified when big cats... act like cats. Like people clearly haven't lived with cats if they think a tiger wouldn't do the same thing a cat could but 50x worse. I'm covered in cuts and scars from owning cats, can't imagine what one twice my size could do on its own off days.
how the hell can you NOT expect it when domestic animals do shit like that all the time?
This is what being detached from natural order does to people.
Big cats are different to chimps. And big cats are different (tigers, caracals... Etc)
If the cat is domesticated (preferably from young) they are perfectly fine. You probably only had small cats in your life and that's okay
@Olympic-grade lurker wrong
@@GuyfromEarth3000 ??? I am literally talking about domestic cats and comparing them to big cats.
Big cats are not domesticated. They can not BE domesticated, even if you have them from cubhood. They may become tame, but even then, they are still wild animals, and still cats.
Domestic cats and big cats will do a lot of the same things. Which includes scratching and biting as a result of perceived slights and stressors. Like explained in the video, the likely explanation behind Roy's tiger going at him, is that he changed the routine without warning. In a domestic cat, that may result in spraying, appetite loss, moodiness, etc. You can expect much the same with a big cat, except this tiger is also in front of a live audience (lots of noise and people) with music and people speaking on mic (lots of noise and chaos) which is going to result in a much bigger reaction - so, straight to the aggression. The tiger even gave him warning in the same way a domestic cat may have, through bites that are not meant to hurt (though being a tiger, they will).
The comparison goes this way - if a domestic cat will do it, expect a big cat to. If a domestic cat bites from stress, expect a big cat to. Anything harmful a domestic cat does, any wild cat will also do, but it will be 10x worse. If my domestic cat bites me, it's one thing - it won't kill me. If my "pet" tiger does it, that's a life-threatening issue.
So when people are shocked that a tiger they raised from cubhood actually bites, that's horseshit behaviour on their part from thinking they could not only take the wild out of an animal, but the cat out of a cat. Tigers will bite. Not a question of if, but when. Wild animals will be wild. They will shit, piss, bite, scratch, kick, scream, and do every natural thing they do in the wild no matter how "tame" you think they are.
@@GuyfromEarth3000 Even domestic cat aren't truly domestic. Training them is a pain in the ass, they do whatever they want, aren't obedient and loyal like dogs and they view you as something they own because you provide for them.
And you think you can domesticate the wild ones.
Ridiculous.
Yeah I've heard about that bear tragedy, I also heard that the authorities kept the audio and someone had a permission to make a documentary about it so they allowed only him to listen to the audio, The recording was so terrifying that the person making the documentary was shocked that it still existed and he said and I quote, "It should have been destroyed."
I can't imagine being the first person to find and hear it...
This was a few years ago and idk if I heard the reenactment audio or the actual audio (I think it was the actual audio though) but I don't recommend listening... some good news is that at one point the woman stopped feeling pain and she told her mother "it's Ok. I don't feel pain anymore. *Bear sounds in the background*
Even in her final moments she was trying to comfort her mom. You could still hear the Bear. Shit was pretty fucked up.
@@thecommunity1102 I remember hearing the audio also and the sound of the bones being crushed was horrific to hear.
Yep it was Werner Herzog and the movie was Grizzly Man
Friendly reminder that our ancestors often died that way. That's why I shake my head at the so called "nature lovers" that think the wild is some kind of paradise like a fantasy tale.
The fact that bro told them not to hurt the tiger does deserve some respect
The Gordy scene really left me feeling some type of way, just very emotional. I stopped the movie just to rewind and watch the scene a few more times.
Everything about it was chilling. I felt a level of empathy for all the characters involved that is stronger than I normally feel when watching film.
The fear and pain the people felt when Gordy attacked them, the terror of the little boy under the table, and the confusion of Gordy himself who clearly did not understand what was happening.
I can't stop thinking about how every cut, every instruction of vision, every choice made the scene even more effective in capturing the horror.
Just...a beautiful piece of cinematic work.
did we watch the same movie? thing was a dumpster fire IMO, also still dont understand why glenn got all googley eyed thinking back on that shit like he was about to nut in his pants just thinking about it.
Deserved an Oscar
I actually didn't find the whole chimp thing scary, it's just an animal, we know them & what we know isn't scary.
Now that alien creature, that was fucking scary, espcially the way it just came down silently the first time you see it & without any music or jumpscare editing, it was like "here's the monster" & you see it, that scared me more than a chimp.
Supported by a good child actor, mind. He really sold the scene, just barely keeping it together.
@@dr.virus1295 thats funny, the chimp was the only scary part of the movie for me. guess everyones got different fears
Missed a detail about the James St. Davis incident, particularly about Moe.
A few years after the attack, he broke out of his enclosure and escaped into the wilderness. Even with search parties dispatched, the chimp was never found again.
Edit: Actually, it's way more likely Moe was killed by the sanctuary owners or other chimps, and they may be using "he escaped" as a cover-up. That's even more terrible, if true.
If Moe did die in the sanctuary it would most likely be the cause of other chimps as if he died of natural causes the sanctuary would have mentioned it. Now there’s also that possibility Moe himself went CHIMP which led to his supposed demise.
I'd posit that the poor thing died of a broken heart, really
Even if Moe was a wild chimp, the fact he watched his owner get mauled by two other chimps and became paralyzed and traumatized is so heartbreaking :(
Knowing how intelligent they are, he probably self-deleted and it was too disturbing to release to the public. We've known dolphins kept in poor conditions to willingly self-delete before, there's no reason why a chimp theoretically couldn't.
@@cryoraptora303tm2 very good point, even dogs and birds will SH if stressed enough
Idea for a future video: Birds that CAN go to heaven. Some good aviators that aren’t heinous creatures of the prehistoric era. Subjects could be stuff like the Hyacinth Macaw (those guys are insane with how they plant seeds ON PURPOSE) or any bird that does cool stuff that doesn’t kill people
I thought hyacinth macaws are ded
@@CocoLocoToco wrong actually, thats the Spix’s Macaw (don’t know if I spelled that right) The bird in Rio. They were extinct in the *wild* but have recently made a comeback!
Ah i see
Noice
We do need some wholesome.
I got one word for you on this subject: Alex. He was an African grey who was the subject of a thirty year long experiment by animal psychologist Irene Pepperberg. He could do simple math, identify objects and colours, and even ask legitimate questions. It’s also believed that he understood emotions to a degree, as if researchers working on him expressed irritation, he would say, “I’m sorry.” Pepperberg was also teaching him to recognise graphemes, but he died before she could successfully teach him.
(And on a tear jerking note, his last words to Pepperberg were, “You be good. I love you.”
This video game me the chills. And the last story made me so angry. Jason was doing what any rational person would when faced woth a wild dangerous animal.
Honestly, some people may blame these incidents on the environment that Travis was raised in, but chimps aren't peaceful in the wild. They are calculating predators and are more than capable organizing as a group to wage war against other weaker groups of chimps. People get attacked by other "domesticated" lions, tigers etc. kept as pets all the time. Keeping exotic pets, especially like big cats and great apes is a dangerous game to play regardless of the environment they are kept in.
The fact that they're (chimps, etc.) closer to us in intelligence and (some) social behaviour should honestly make them less appealing as pets, same as orcas.
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NOBODY needs a near-same (or higher, istg, with some people) intelligence but much bigger, stronger and more aggressive 'furbaby' that you can't speak its language and it can only partly understand yours -- which doesn't guarantee obedience -- and whom you will never *really* be able to put in a time-out corner if it rejects your authority, as a PET. Even less does anybody need to find out the hard (read: gruesome and possibly fatal) way that their neighbor tried to play King of the Jungle in the middle of suburbia.
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Stupidity aside, if these folks REALLY think these animals are basically the same as human except with fur, scales, fins, etc.? Then they're basically engaging in slavery by removing said animals from their native environments in order to make the animals serve at their human masters' pleasure. And they're disrespecting their basic social and care etc. needs by denying them free unhindered access to their natural environment and own kind to interact with. They haven't 'saved' them; they've enslaved them for funzies.
Important life lessons: WILD ANIMALS ARE ONLY YOUR FRIENDS WHEN THERE IS A FENCE BETWEEN YOU AND THEM!!!
I mean no
Unless they're domesticated (as well as well-trained and genuinely cared for along with the domestication). While I personally love both cats and dogs (and have a sweet furbaby of my own), cats and dogs do tend to sometimes cause harm to humans the most due to us having them in our homes for centuries, and it hasn't stopped billions of people to continue having them as pets.
@@Scarshadow666 I did say WILD animals
I like a thousand miles and a body of water
Unless they are
You know
A butterfly or some shit like that, then the advice is for the animal, lol.
The worst part about these stories of people getting too chummy with animals is that most of the time when shit eventually hits the fan, it's someone unrelated getting hurt.
I remember all of these, the last audio recording of Timothy Treadwell when he was being attacked/mauled is so haunting and sends chills down my spine.. People need to leave wild animals to their own devices and stop trying to make them pets. Neverr ends well. Love your vids btw! =)
Another big connection I noticed between Nope and real life is with the death of Azaria Chamberlain. The dingoes around Uluru had grown accustomed to being fed by humans, and therefore thought of humans as a source of food, and didn't know the difference between a package of hotdogs and a human infant. I'm sure everyone who's seen Nope can see the connection there.
What the Fuck
Wait, you mean the "dingo ate my baby" incident? The one where the mother was wrongfully arrested and charged on suspicion of murdering her own baby after Dingos did, in-fact, eat her baby?
@@kinorris1709 i repeat
WHAT THE UNHOLY FUCK
So moral of the story is, remember that wild animals are wild animals, and no amount of love or trust you think you have with them is going to override their basic instincts.
same goes for dogs really
Idk but the fact that Suzy was Travis' mother is freaking bananas
Kinda shows how the compony didnt care even more
Cuz they sold Travis for profit, and knew he wouldnt have a satisfying habitat. And both ended up being risks because no one treated the problem seriously, till it was to late
Lol bananas
Donkey Kong music starts playing
Ikr it's bananas af
That part of "Nope" freaked me out more than any horror movie ive seen since The Exorcist came out when I was 13. It was SO REAL. People who keep wild animals as pets remind me of the great Robert A Heinlein's saying, "Never underestimate the power of human stupidity."
This narrator is brilliant!
He doesn't mince words, and tells it like it is.
Fortunately, the majority of people, look at these foolish idiots, and are not surprised by the end results.
yeah, it's those few who think it's still a good idea that concern me.
The, "It wont happen to me" mentality is harsh on those around these few.
Just curious, but are you British?
@@slothful2039 *???*
@@Jahito_EBT Their wording comes off as very British and it's funny.
@@slothful2039 how is it funny???
Travis was
-kept inside all day
-fed nothing but junk food
-not allowed to socialize majority of his life
-fed fucking Xanax
-and he ain’t got no bitches
This dude was a ticking time bomb
4 out of 5 of those sounds like the average league of legends player
@@c.d.rstudios4691 LOL gamers don't usually chew people's faces off, tho.
@@Tokuijin That's because they're too out of shape to do it, I'm pretty sure some of the people I've met while playing games would try if they could lol.
this entire thread 😂
@@Tokuijin ripping people's faces off wasn't in the 5 listed above
Side note: I wonder if humans being creeped out by an almost human smile is because it is a sign on aggression in chimpanzees and it's a survival instinct
I'd say it's because generally, we see smiles as a friendly gesture, when a chimpanzee does it, it's always a little off, and we know that it's that it's a sign of malace and not a sign of friendliness
@@c.d.rstudios4691 And probably also because it falls right in the uncanny valley. It's _almost_ human but ever so slightly... off.
But yeah, most likely, as you said, our subconscious recognises that the smile is one filled with malice and anger.
That's... A really good theory
Well humans supposedly evolved from primates like chimps so it's probably instinct, a species can evolve all it wants but as Alan Grant said in Jurassic Park you can't just supress hundreds and/or thousands etc. years of gut instinct
I think its because we smile a specific way via stretching our lips up and with our eyes squinted. Other animals smile differently via by lifting their lips up (most animals like dogs do this) and eyes wide, so instinctually, we know its not right
Its also why we also get freaked out if we see people smiling too much with their eyes wide open, because we just know its not the nice kind. We're wired to pick up when some expression isn't normal despite it being something that should be. Wide eyes tend to be a sign of surprise/fear or aggression with us, so when its paired with something comforting like a smile it doesn't look right.
Its also why we freak out when any expression in general is being exaggerated or mixed up in some way, its goes against what we're instinctually wired to recognize and connect with some feeling. Lets say you have relaxed lips but wide eyes and relaxed brows and stare at someone like that, it'll look unsettling because your expression is giving unreadable/different signals and it'll just immediately just get labeled as a sign of threat/danger.
I've thought about this a long time ago and now I'm finally acting on it. With all these stories you've covered of famous animals ultimately paying with their lives for being treated as commodities, you HAVE to make a video on Jumbo the elephant and his tragic demise in 1860. Honestly, you could probably do a whole video on the dark side of circuses and their treatment of animals on its own. Keep up the great work!