Electric Car Home Charger Buyers Guide (2022 - Post OZEV Grant)
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 เม.ย. 2022
- This should give you a good overview as to what's needed when looking to get an electric car home charger installed.
Website: www.ev-man.co.uk/
Twitter: / evmanuk
Octopus Referral: share.octopus.energy/ore-cobr...
Smart Home Charge: www.smarthomecharge.co.uk/
Using the referral code (no.2 below), you will receive £20 credit on your Electric Juice account. This will be applied after their installation has been confirmed as completed by Smart Home Charge.
How it works:
1. Simply request a quote for a charger on the Smart Home Charge website
2. When filling in the enquiry form, include 'SHC#Amazing-EV-Experience' in the Electric Juice Code field
3. Click Submit
4. In the meantime, sign up for your free Electric Juice card with this link to get £5 free credit right away: electricjuice.octopus.energy/...
5. Once the installation is complete, Smart Home Charge will notify Electric Juice and credit your account with £20 for use across all public chargers compatible with Electric Juice.
#homecharger #EVCharger #electriccars - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
![แฟนแนวใด๋ - ยูริ โตเกียวมิวสิค [ SyncVersion ]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Fm8oDwos2uc/mqdefault.jpg)
![ป่ะป๊าเลอา ชื่อ ??? [ดูคลิปเต็มหน้าช่อง] #Short | PANG ORNHIRA](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ssxX0VkJCTo/mqdefault.jpg)
Love your videos mate, no nonsense honest approach. Have used your links to get charger quote rolling and joined Juice too as already with Octopus. ID3 arriving this week! Thanks for all the tips, keep 'em coming! Cheers
I have an Ohme charger and it has been brilliant in both the charger itself and the after sales service from Ohme. I am on the Octopus Go tariff and so between the hours of 00:30 and 04:30 it costs me 5p per kWh. I 've had my e-niro for almost a year and it costs me £1.40 to charge 112 miles at the 5p per kWh rate. Consequently, we have saved a large amount over our Honda (52miles per gallon) deisel. For example, so far this year since January to March we did 1430 miles and I have saved just over £208 compared to the cost of Deisel for the same miles. Unless I am doing a journey totalling more than 280 miles I never need to use public charging, I just top up at home when I'm sleeping when I need to. I don't have a garage so the charger is on the outside of my house and I have a steep sloping drive, so in the winter I can't park on it in case of ice. So, I bought ahd extention cable that plugs into the Ohme cable and then into the car parked at the top. It trails up my drive not over the pavement; job's a goodun. All the time the early hours tariff stays, then I am quids in.
Good information in an easy to understand format. Exactly the video that all potential EV buyers need to see. Just like your excelent video on Battery life.
As an asside my Mitsubish PHEV is at 246,000 miles and still getting 20+ miles of range fully electeic. Which for the 1st 2014 model is not at all bad.
My 15 month old MG5 std range model has done 56,000 miles and the battery SOH is still at 100%
I live in an apartment and the manager was kind enough to allow me to install a charging station. The electrician installed a 60 amp circuit breaker in the breaker box with a 240 volt outlet on the front corner of the apartment. The charging station is rated at 32 amps and delivers 7.7 Kw, which works well with my Leaf. I had an outlet installed so I could travel with my charger. Found it handy, as I could charge at RV parks when charging stations were not available.
Sounds like things are a little different there than here in the US. The main thing is to follow local electrical and national regulations.
I am moving from my farm with 3 phase to a house without. This has been very informative. Thanks.
Really happy with my Zappi, gives me the option to charge using solar or full fat mains, or a combination of the two. Really good bit of equipment. Really good practical advice as ever, thanks
Perfect timing literally started process of buying new car and need to get one of these sorted.
As usual solid and sound information thank you.
Great information my change point is going to the front of my house and consumer unit is in the kitchen at the back of the house.
I have an Easee, and would probably recommend that over anything else. Especially for folks in Europe where a 3 phase home connection is more common, as it will take in 3 phase and automatically determine whether the car can take single or 3 phase and supply that. I also have an Easee Equalizer box plugged into my electricity meter so that the charger can monitor the load on each individual phase and control the charger speed to ensure i don't hit the main fuse limit.
If you want more than one charger installed at home, the Easee is also able to daisy chain 3 chargers off one connection and automatically load balance.
Very informative video, thank you. Lots to think about and when I do get a charger it will be a major job routing the cable around my house as the consumer unit it on the left and the driveway on the right side ahhhh.
Thanks, also consider where you want a house battery system in future🙂
Nice video... Looking to upgrade my charger (Alfen unit) to a 3 phase one, as I have that going in soon. ended up choosing the Tesla wall connector as it's the cheapest at 22kw output for the Model 3 (11kw) and the Zoe (22kw)
You will need PEN fault protection. Some charge points have them built in (Zappi for example) otherwise you can fit a seperate unit that covers this, this is if you don't use an earth spike.
Great information, and don’t forget Smart chargers that work with solar/batteries. (He says, granny charging because the bigger charge will be more than the panels are producing)
SHC fitted my Ohme Pro a few months ago. Was an easy ordering process, and the fella was done in jig time. Haven't had cause to use it yet, since my local council still has free charging, but I'm sure that won't last, and since the grant was still available, felt like the best time to get it done.
Glad we could help
I like the go-e most for the API and solar integration 👍
We got our ohme installed and the installer notified our power distributor. They de-looped us 6 months later. I checked it after they left - free upgrade to three phase. Winner, winner... chicken dinner.
I went with the wall box. I went with it because it isn't ugly like most chargers out there and has the best app and it knows what tariff your on therefore it can automatically set you're charging around that so fantastic for verbal rates or time of day rate.
I’ve got the Ohme epod, as it’s really small and neat, and we don’t have anywhere to put a tethered cable. I particularly like the smart capabilities, allowing charging at the cheapest tariff, (I’m on Octopus intelligent) and the push notification to approve plug-ins. Had my neighbour’s tradesman plug his van into the charger the other day. Thought it was communal, and the neighbour said it would be ok. Was very disappointed when he found that it hadn’t charged, and my neighbour got a snarky text from me!
Very helpful, thank you.
Only things I would add is check with your local installer for local regulations (eg: where I am single phase 7kW chargers need to be on controlled load, but 3 phase 22kW doesn't) and the other thing is about 11kW chargers, it's a little tricky, but if you use a 3phase 11kW charger on a 7kW single phase car (eg: Kona EV) it'll only charge at 3.5kW, as it's the amps which will max out.
So you'll always get the lowest of the factors as your max charce rate is the point. 22kW is definitely the best if you have 3 phase, 7kW if you don't.
You can also get chargers which have amp limiters in them so don't stress if you're nearing your feed in limit.
Good points for most people. PS - the Model 3 only does 11KW, not 22KW ☹️
🤫
I chose a Hypervolt (white) in August 21 after comparing various models and reviews. It has OTA updates and the solar option came onto the app in October 21. Very happy with it. As for the moaning about the company who sponsored the advert, EVM did state the charger was installed by them prior to them sponsoring the channel. Just enjoy the channel and filter out the mentioning of a sponsors name if it offends you that much.
The reviews EVM does at least highlight some of the weaknesses of cars, such as the Polestar when he kept hitting his left knee against the centre console. Not heard that mentioned before in all the 'professional' reviews.
Does the mains connection have to come from your consumer unit? My electricity meter is on my driveway about 2 metres from where I'd put a charge point so taking from there with a separate consumer unit for the charger seems easier than figuring out the existing wiring.
We haven't got an electric car yet,, although I am often borrowing them from work, but will be having a charger installed in readiness. Only problem it needs to be installed 30 metres from the front of the house, with a further 10 metres run to the consumer unit. Guess it's going to be expensive!
I'm waiting on my BP Pulse charger to be installed, when I informed the DNO (BP hadn't) the inspected the property to check installation would be possible. Turns out my neighbours supply is linked to ours. Bright side we have a huge supply. Downside, the neighbour has to have a new supply installed & the street has to be dug up & disconnected for the time it takes to install their new supply.
Thank you Sir , without smart metre can we get some discount ?or I have to change my metre I’ll wait for your reply 😎
Positioning: very important. It's a little harder to get our daughter out of her car seat from our garage now...
Couple of queries I hope you can assist with.
1) my allocated parking space is 2 doors away from my house. Can you recommend a site/company to discuss charger options/issues?
2) looking to trade in £5k car for pcp. Also have £6k cash. Are there any risks to putting such a large deposit down? (25% of purchase price).
Cheers
What is the typical type of cable used to run from consumer unit to charger?
If you have a consumer unit in the garage, is that ok? Garage is a way from the house and the main consumer unit is right on the other side. The garage has a small consumer unit right where I would put a charger. Likely to be ok?
I got a pod point as part of the deal when I bought my ioniq 28kwh. It was with the grant but found myself in the middle of a row between the electricity board because we needed a household fuse upgrade and needed an upgrade. The electricity board had the hump because of podpoint not informing them about fitting the charger. It got sorted but was a ball ache and took a lot of back and forth for me between the two. So for this reason I wouldn't recommend them!
I like my BP Pulse Smart Charger - because it was free with my car! However, anyone with spare solar should get one like the Zappi that can direct the spare to the car rather than export it.
At least the BP Pulse unit can be programmed to charge at night at full rate and at set times during the day at a slower rate which is an okayish (and free) solution for me as the house battery acts as a buffer.
I've used the search tool on the recommended website. I put in the filters and it's come up with nowt. It looks like that as soon as I select 'work with solar panels', it pretty much gets rid of almost all of the options. Am I doing something wrong?
EVM also says he picked one without an earth rod yet the one on his wall, when you look at it through the recommended website, says you need an earth rod?
Hi - just came across you and indeed this video. To regally use a "granny charger" I had an EV certified 13 Amp socket installed (yeap, there is standard for this) - essentially needs much the same wiring as an EV charger BUT costs perhaps 10% of the cost of a decent 7.4kW charger.
I and many many others happily use this setup no problem at all and there is the added bonus of it being very compatible with a car that supports OI and because it slower than a 7.4kW charger I get many more slots e.g. yesterday I had 2 hours in the afternoon and then 11pm to 08:00 and added about 100 miles to my Model Y which is more than I ever really need on any given day.
Its slow, but very safe and helps get you additional Intelligent Octopus hours. Note, I notified UKPN and they look to auto accept any 2.4kW charger :-) Thoughts on this solution?
Have prices come down from charger manufacturers to compensate for the lack of the Ozev grant…as these things are quite expensive considering what they actually are.
Seriously they should be around £300 plus installation which in my opinion would be a fair price.
No you're looking at a grand really
Maybe I’m missing something, but why didn’t you just drive your Tesla and forwards, so the cable reached? Surely this is simpler than moving charger.
It really would be great if the model 3 charged at 22kw AC!! My local public one is free!!
The cable
Doesn’t have to go from the charger to the consumer unit. It can go from the charger straight to the electricity meter. Just letting you know
I’ve a gen3 Tesla home charger and that thing makes a constant buzzing noise if not in use. It’s a reported issue, apparently.
Whilst I have both types of charger, I use the granny charger most especially when it’s sunny as the solar panels fill the car up for free. ( car in the garage mostly during the day as I’m retired) but use the zappi during winter for overnight charging at the cheaper rate. Seems the best of both worlds. Fully agree with using the experienced guys to fit the chargers but I also used a local firm too just in case of any problems and support the local economy.
I am in a virtually identical situation to you: retired, Zappi, Solar Panels etc.
I assume that by "granny Charger" you mean a 3-pin plus connection ? If so, why are you using that rather than the Zappi ? As you have indicated, the Zappi has the facility of pre-setting to charge when costs are at their lowest (my Octopus supplier's cheap rate starts at 12:30am). However, if it is a sunny day and you want to use the power generated by the solar panels, you can temporarily switch from the pre-set settings to 'Boost' and the Zappi will daw power from the solar panels until you tell it to stop. It will then revert back to the pre-set night settings.
I am in a virtually identical situation to you: retired, Zappi, Solar Panels etc.
I assume that by "granny Charger" you mean a 3-pin plus connection ? If so, why are you using that rather than the Zappi ? As you have indicated, the Zappi has the facility of pre-setting to charge when costs are at their lowest (my Octopus supplier's cheap rate starts at 12:30am). However, if it is a sunny day and you want to use the power generated by the solar panels, you can temporarily switch from the pre-set settings to 'Boost' and the Zappi will daw power from the solar panels until you tell it to stop. It will then revert back to the pre-set night settings.
Probably because I don’t understand it all really.
I have no interest in tech nor do I even have a smartphone, so I opted for a dumb wall-charger that works by simply plugging into the car without further input from me. (no programming or timer setting etc) The car's charge rate has been set to minimum that roughly matches what my solar PV system can generate.
Me Too. Soak up all the solar during the Summer. Go for the cheap overnight tariff in the Winter. If I use the 7KW EO charger, it soaks up all the solar and battery, and then still draws at least 3-4 KhH from the grid. Not very smart, at the new eye-watering prices.
Surprised you don't recommend McNallys from Keighley: Keep it Yorkshire!
A couple of points you don't mention? Some people have what's called a 'looped' supply, which I think means their supply into the meter is linked with another property, reducing their electrical load capacity. Also my charger installed nearly 3 years ago links directly to the meter box, not the consumer unit
That's true and a good installer, whether national like us or local, should notify the DNO accordingly who should unloop the supply.
Danny - editor at Smart Home Charge
7Kw chargers are not for everyone. Hmm lets assume the wiring is just fine. I use a 13A socket for 1 reason I get 50% cheaper electric. Now I'll set the scene before anyone runs off with EV night tariff advice. I charge my i3 once every 2 weeks as I don't drive more than 150 miles and it works fine. Therefore if I was on a EV tariff my volume electic consumption (house) would be much more than it should be. I also have a 2.2Kw Solar array that most clear days produces 1.6Kw which means the excess of around (1.3Kw) is available to be consumed by my Immersion heater via the SOLIC 200 or used to offset the charging of the car on a 2.4KW 10A charger. So 10Amps gives 2.3Kw and less the 1.3kw means I am paying for only 1Kwh to charge the car a 56% discount. Now if I had a 7Kw home charger unless it was intelligent costing more it would push more than 2.3Kw meaning the % saving by augmenting with my solar would not be as beneficial. You may shout that intelligent EV chargers can export only the solar export into the car but for me that's not practical as the sun goes in and out the car will start and stop charging. But then there's the conflict of energy being grabbed by the SOLIC 200 which measures the export current and dumps ALL excess amps into the immersion heater. I am not sure an EV intelligent charger would cope well fighting the SOLIC for export amps. Summary I am happy to charge my 40Kwh battery when down to 75% for approx 4 hours using half price electric. p.s I do have a 7Kw charger at my other house I drive 90 miles too for a fast charge to top up. Using this method I get electric for the car at around 11p and free hot water meaning no use of GAS which has increased by almost 200%
Update on tethered cable length. My 7kw charger has a 8.5m built in cable ..well done China manufacturing who build most EVs' anyway so they know what they are doing better than most UK manufacturers.
Granny charging with use of an RCD dedicated fused spur Blue exterior waterproof BS kitemark standard commando socket.
Do they charge you for electricity at commercial rate having an EV charger or is it residential rate?
Why would it be commercial? It’s a residential property.
So, can you get a wall box charger that can charge two cars at once, obviously via two separate cables? Thanks.
No
Hello, thinking about getting a charger installed, to use one day. (We have a driveway. Maybe we could let it out for a while.) Any thoughts about sense of that? Are prices likely to rocket, or collapse as demand soars? Availability issues in future? Presumably untethered, so unit will charge any car with its own cable? Thanks.
No rush.
@@ElectricVehicleMan Thanks
Also, if you’re planning to hire out your “charger” you’d probably want it installed outside. There are a few companies around and coming up soon that will host this facility.
Just a word of caution about domestic charger sharing. If you hire out your charger at a £ rate which is more than you pay for importing power to your charger, you MAY be liable to both Income Tax and VAT. The position on this hasn't yet been fully clarified but it would be best to keep detailed records in case the tax man comes knocking !
Similarly, if you are "selling on" power, you need to be sure that your domestic charger meets the construction standards required by OFGEM. Most chargers do, but not all.
If it's outside you'll find someone parked on your drive for 5 hours lol
I am looking to buy a house, no car yet but will get one at some point. They are saying £360 for a 32 amp one, sound a good deal?
Who is? Sounds very cheap. 🤔
Is it worth mentioning the option of untethered in case somebody with a different kind of car visits or if you should want to change car types yourself?
I’d just tell them they shouldn’t have bought a Leaf 🤣🤷♂️
Untethered for the win. You might change your car also.
You could, or you could just tell them to get an adaptor as PHEVs aren't real EVs anyways 😆😆
@@matthenley7641 I don't think I'd let a PHEV in, unless they'd run out of petrol as well, but somebody who runs out of both and hadn't got a granny charger as backup shouldn't be allowed to drive. I was thinking that one of my EV Blog heroes might turn up in a Tesla, or indeed if I came into a small fortune and bought one myself.
There's also the issue of cable theft with tethered chargers.
If you google it most EV Charger installers recommend an additional RCD isolator switch at the charger to prevent tripping of the main CU in the event of a fault, and most certainly safety reasons. which you do not seem to have. Suggest additional training for your recommended company.
I do have one. Next to my main RCB.
Just because you can’t see it, doesn’t mean it isn’t there.
@@ElectricVehicleMan It should be in view right next to the charger for emergency switch off. Poor install.
@@toad008 utter nonsense. Qualified 18th edition electrician with 30 years experience. FYI - the location of an RCD has zero relevance on which RCD trips first. Suggest you understand what you are talking about first.
@@bw9927 What about the a switch to turn everything off. I feel sorry for your customers, suggest you get some common sense and a lot more experience.
@@toad008 suggest you stick to your day job.
I'll have to look at them. Do you have to let the DNO know when your just having one replaced? Ours is cracked to hell. Going to see what it costs to just replace the housing first though.
@smithy what make is it?
@@judebrown4103 rolec
@@smithy4121 cheers 👍
Can the charger be installed alongside an outside electric meter box without a cable going around the house, through the wall and into the consumer unit?
Yes, but you will need to have an isoation switch installed in the "tails" from the meter (by your electricity supplier or the DNO) and a "Henley Block" installed to form a junction for the "tails" from the isolation switch, the supply to the consumer unit and the supply for a new small external consumer unit for the EV charge point, and thence the cable to the EV charge point.
@@robertsmart7484 That's good to know - thanks.
That Smartcharge website doesn't look very well maintained, eg no mention of a Kia EV6 or Hyundai Ioniq 5 AFAICS, let alone a Genesis GV60, which is currently my favourite to buy. Appreciate that it probably doesn't make much difference to the choice of charger, but doesn't create the best impression - if you're going to have a feature (eg a guide) on a website then it needs to be actively maintained, which sadly takes time I know, or else lose it.
It does, in fact if you look at the screenshot in this video you can see the EV6 listed.
The GV60 isn’t out yet either.
Both the EV6 and Ioniq 5 are on there and have been for a long time :)
The problem with singing the praises of TOD tariffs is that the energy market is absolutely shitfaced right now and nobody will let you switch tariff until the prices come down. I can't switch at the moment so I'm gonna be stuck paying a flat rate at any time of the day with no off peak savings.
Also, you're a fellow Yorkshireman, got any personal recommendations for a provider and installer that can utilise the grant? I'm looking at either an Ohme or a Wallbox (probably the latter for the wifi instead of SIM connection).
Octopus allow people to move.
The grant has gone, as mentioned in the video.
@@ElectricVehicleMan The grant has been moved from private households to landlords and workplaces.
@@ElectricVehicleMan Octopus still won't quote me without calling them and, given the current market, it's likely not worth doing that. Also, as the other Rob mentioned, the grant still exists for landlords and I'm renting so should be ok.
@@robbourne83 It's well worth going on Octopus Go with an EV.
You can get the quote from their website, you just need to ring to move.
A question ... We have an old fuse box, with wired fuses, would this be suitable for an EV charger?
It doesn’t go through a home fuse box, it has its own.
Either way, that ain’t safe enough by today’s standards. Good time to upgrade.
@@ElectricVehicleMan thanks for getting back to me
Follow the link to Smart Home Charge in the description - there's a comp to win a home charge unit in April at the moment!
My wife liked the Anderson charger. £1600 later (including installation) it’s being installed on Thursday 😢happy wife happy life……
I guess you had ground works. Should never be more than £600. I was initially quoted £1500 for where I wanted it. Instead I got a untethered with a longer cable. Works great.
@@entropy5431 the unit was from memory about 1100 then it’s 500 instillation as we need some extra bits.
@@imamiddleagedman No, should be £560 (maybe add £300 as I just scraped in for the grant) for a standard install. Any digging and re-enforced cable will be extra (on my install it was £1000 for 6m underground so I opted out). A Good quality 10 metre cable is £150 so much cheaper and more versatile (in the future the charge point on your car might not be in the same place). I paid £560 all done but £150 for 10m cable on top.
@@entropy5431 his wife wanted the *Andersen* it's the most expensive charge point out there. Anything up to fifteen hundred quid just for the unit so eleven hundred before fitting was almost a bargain! They are beautiful though and you can design them to match wherever you put them. 😁
@@entropy5431 do u have a link to where u purchased it from? £600 all in sounds very good
I might be wrong (and I have an EO charger) but what seems most sensible to me is get a commando socket and use the car for any smart options. I'm happy to be corrected but I don't use anything 'smart' or apps on my charger as my car can do it all. Maybe EV man knows better.
That’s is what some believe. You would still need to have all the required electrical safety protection for a commando socket. A dedicated EV charger generally has all this built in. PEN fault, Type A RCD protection etc. an EV charger looks better than a commando socket, locks the cable in place etc. The charger apps are also becoming more sophisticated as the marker progresses….
@@bw9927 True you get the cable lock but in a safe area it's hardly needed. Rest is just a good electrician.
@@bw9927 The charger apps suck and always will.
Mine charges at the cheapest time automatically, so worth every penny for me. Especially if on Agile tariff.
@@entropy5431 that is indeed true also. But when all the costs are added up the savings aren’t huge. Still needs registering with the DNO etc.
So, a question.
Are there any chargers suitable for a two-Car family ?
I drive a much-loved, but knackered 24kw Nissan Leaf, and I'd like my Wife to replace her stinking Diesel with a (better !) EV, too.
But I don't want to melt the Grid ;) - so are there any Chargers that have two Leads, - that will charge one Car, then the other, - or are there any Chargers that will talk to each other, so, again, one car is recharged as a priority, followed by the other ?
My Wife commutes in her car every day, so needs to be recharged every night, whereas I work from home, so can recharge any other time (such as during the Day, when our PV is producing)
So this may seem quite 'niche' now, but there are presumably thousands of 2-car families out there, and as they switch over to EV, this is going to be an increasing market ?
No, it’s two chargers or a charger and a granny lead. They can limit speeds if your house doesn’t support 2 until your main fuse is upgraded.
@@ElectricVehicleMan Thanks for that, but surely two-lead chargers for two-car households have got to be the next technological step, haven't they, - because soon, with every two-car family switching to Electric and then finding that they then have to install two separate chargers that don't even communicate with each other, is going to sound increasingly inadequate soon, isn't it ...
@@tomsdaddy Could you charge two cars from one physical box?
Mine wouldn’t reach for example.
Too niche right now so maybe in the future.
Plus two are more redundant I guess.
@@ElectricVehicleMan I think I must be one of those 'Early adopters' who's just too bl**dy early ! LOL !
I was looking at the Ohme website last week, and they do two different cable lengths, one of which was 5 metres I think ?
So if you had a double Garage, or even just a double parking space, you could presumably just fit it in between ?
I'm pretty sure if read or seen an article saying all new charger installs will need to have a separate smart meter added so then the electron pixies will be taxed at a different rate. The cost of installing is way to high at 1k plus and if you have a granny lead in a 3 pin it won't cost a fortune for installation, I'm still on the fence about going ev because my local area has just put 2 charge points on a car park 5 miles from the town centre and none of the supermarkets have plans to put any in so until they pull their fingers out and start doing it properly I will stick with ice. My budget is low and a 24kw leaf would be good but the ones I've been to see are 7 to 8k with 7 to 8 bars which works out 40 mile range so for the money that's a joke.
You probably read it in the Daily Mail, in which case it's more than likely utter cobblers. If a separate meter was legislated on domestic EV chargers, many electric car owners would simply charge their car up through the night using the TV socket on the normal domestic rate. Even using a 3 pin granny cable would add at least 5 miles for each hour it was connected. And that would be sufficient to get most people to work the following day. And how about if someone used some of the energy they generated themselves from solar panels? How could they tax that fairly? The Government would need to offer an assurance the sun would shine for at least X hours per day..... And Tesco are installing EV charging in 400 of their UK stores. Some Sainsburys branches also offer free charging.. As are LDL and Ikea. You could have an older 24kw Leaf battery refurbished for around the same cost as a clutch replacement in an ICE car.....which might make an older Leaf a feasible secondhand buy.
@@Brian-om2hh hi, it wasn't the daily fail it was something I was looking up for what we're the current regulations for home chargers. How can they refurbish a battery for 1k, the only thing I can think of as to why the old second hand evs cost so much is the scrap value for the batteries, I can buy a corsa or fiesta 3 times over for the cost of a leaf and with how low of range they have I couldn't justify the money don't get me wrong I can't wait to get one.
I believe your car will charge up to 11kw, not 22kw. :)
They might not be so pretty (actually the are when cable removed) but everyone should get an untethered cable. It means the cable can easily be lengthened and unless you have a tiny driveway, and if you plan to own more than one electric car in the future, it's a winner.
Na, tethered for me. All cars sold are type 2 so no benefit there unless buying an old leaf/Soul.
Also means you have a space cable (which ain’t cheap) and you don’t have to get it in and out all the time.
@@ElectricVehicleMan My point is with a second electric car you can easily charge both, just get a longer cable. Different cars have different charge points. In my case I have a long narrow drive so it's definitely better for me. Mpg may vary 😝
I can reach both parking spaces with mine.
But yes, everyone is different.
@@entropy5431 A longer (10 metre ) cable can come in handy if a charging bay is ICE'd.......
@@ElectricVehicleMan Not quite true - the Lexus UX300e uses Chademo for some unfathomable reason. It won't bother many people.
How about for a terraced house. Ye ok.
There’s another video for that, not that you watched this. 🙄
Just be aware that the recent DFT audit of these installs found around a fifth were dangerous, and only a third actually satisfactory. This tallies with what I have seen, as it is clearly a race to the bottom with these large EV installation companies. Having done a basic course guarantees nothing. Also all of them have to be smart chargers from June, essentially to allow the user and DNO more control over the time and rate of charge.
I undersatnd that DFT Audit was carried out by a private company who had a vested interest in noting down as many faults as possible, even if the so called "faults" actually fully complied with the current regulations. It seems that the auditors had only been on a basic course . . . .. Have a look at Thomas Nag's TH-cam video on the subject.
It cannot make any sense to use a national installer, they are just a middleman who subs the job onto an local electrician. You might as well go direct.
Most of our installers work directly for us, actually, as mentioned on our website. Plus many customers like the reassurance our process and reviews provide.
But room for all sorts of business models. We aren't for everybody and that's perfectly okay 👌
Danny - Editor and marketing manager
most people cannot charge their cars where they live so then what
It’s actually over 50% have off-road parking.
Done a video on that too.
th-cam.com/video/QbYO9xDU6Ks/w-d-xo.html
Even half million pound semi detached properties are on a looped supply .they share a mains 60 amp power cable from the street and can’t have an EV charger installed even if they got a driveway.Explain method to mitigate for using a granny charger over extended 12 16 hour periods with
A dedicated RCD 16 amp fused spare and 18 amp rated extension cable ,the use of Waterproof or Tupperware boxes under the car and durable rubber cable protectors across the public pavement .Show some integrity and tackle the charging issues for the vast majority of the public.
You sound like someone who should put more effort into writing to people that can actually do something about this (like an MP) rather than having a go at someone you know nothing about on a free TH-cam channel.
I’ve helped councils with EV installs, also many people for years to get into EVs etc. I’m happy with my contribution, what have you done? 🤷♂️
Oh and if someone is in a half million pound house, you would unloop the connection. gkelectricalcontractors.co.uk/how-a-looped-supply-can-affect-your-ev-charging-unit-installation/
But you carry on complaining to the wrong person.
That just shows the lengths that some housebuilders go to to cut costs. It would probably mean that unless the houses are exceptionally well insulated that they wonlt be ablt to change to Air Source Heat Pumps either in the future, as they can be a high current load as well.
@@ElectricVehicleMan I’m complaining to the right person .You’ve got an EV TH-cam platform I don’t.The majority of the British public are being forced into EVs either financially or legally when the vast majority don’t have adequate means of charging them. In my case it’s been advantageous as I only use my new MG EV for local journeys I live in a quiet street where I can granny charge . I also have aces to a Rapid Charger at Lidyl supermarket carpark 100 yards at the top of my street .So why don’t you do a video on the actual practicalities of having to permanently granny charge from a three pin plug .By constantly concentrating on Dedicated home chargers you can appear as rubbing it in that you have access to a driveway.You just appear to be promoting EVs as a rich man’s toy when clearly they are an advance on existing technology that needs to be properly promoted developed and supported.
@@jimsouthlondon7061 Who’s forcing anyone into an EV?
And I assure you, your house is worth more than mine. Not happy? Move.
@@ElectricVehicleMan so was there a parliamentary debate on the 2030 Petrol Diesel ban ?
Plug socket is not designed to be used all the time? What fucking bs is that? What is designed to be used all the time?