AFL players are drug addicts 90% of them. look at Gold coast. Even Carmichael hunt said the only player who didn't do cocaine was religious Gary Ablett hint hint.
Experimenting with drugs is pretty normal for young people in Australia. There is a difference between curiosity and dependence. The best way to prevent substance abuse is maintaining environments where people don't feel the need to constantly escape reality.
As a st kilda and sam fisher fan, sometimes people make bad choices. These are players who have a great deal of money, resources and support around them and still do the wrong thing. Do you think these media personalities and past players would be acting this way if it was some bloke down the end of their street who did it? I think not. Being a good football player doesn’t exempt you from consequences.
Found it strange that they didn't broach the subject of his ex partner taking his home and all of his superannuation and Sam having to "start all over again" money wise, maybe that's not helped that he's sunken this low !!! For his own coach to admit he knew he "partied hard at times", well that speaks volumes because he sounded totally understated when he made that remark. I love what Rossy did for the Saints, but he surely would've been told by the club of every single issue concerning drug abuse around that club but chose to ignore it, like very other club and coach in the AFL. 3 strikes is a joke....... Go tell Joe Blow he gets 3x strikes for misdemeanors in general public and see how far that riles the community......
@@TheHackman44 do you really think the saints knew about the extent of the drug problems? There’s no way Ross would turn a blind eye to it, both of you are completely speculating
Ross Lyon gets a lot of hate but his rule about you have to build a career after football because the money isnt enough for a lifetime is really impressive and you cant question he put his players 1st
Very smart guy, good head on him. In the footy off-season he used to travel to the US, do further university courses and such. Think he also did an MBA. He has always been the firm coach/dad. Head down, get to work, get ahead.
Ross is 100% right in saying that the AFL has no levers to pull to set players up for life after footy. That should be where the discussion is, not offering empty platitudes and justifying informal support systems like McGuire is suggesting. He doesn't actually offer any pathways to prevent drug use by players, all he does it say 'oh we need to prevent it'.
@genuine guy I agree that players are incredibly spoilt, but that just makes the system even worse. It's important to remember that these players are often drafted at 18, straight out of highschool and so they have very little if at all an real life experience. Yes, they get paid a lot and are given a lot of attention during their playing career, but once that's over they're forgotten about. Can you imagine how that would feel? Especially so when they're essentially underdeveloped mentally compared to the rest of society's adults.
I don’t think we are understanding that this conversation of drug use is a broader topic of society. It’s got nothing to do with the AFL…it’s just that these players have the money to be able to partake in those risk taking behaviours. These players will do it regardless.
Well yes it is. They are kept to a standard, they are role models. If they make a loving by trafficking drugs how is that I good image for young kids looking up to them?
@@LaShYz1 its not the parents that choose a childs role model its the child, its not easy to get them to look up to their parents especially with this new age of social media dependencies i mean ive got family members who are in primary school that just wont get of their tablets or phones. So what they see is based on who they look up to. Im sure if you can manage to get some children to look up to parents it would be good but its very hard to do that
I played for an AFL club for one year. Biggest drug culture ever. I never got a game. Peptide program where only a couple of players weren't injecting. Drugs every weekend players would rock up training on Monday off their rockers. Players spuing up so they'd meet bodyfat tests after eating 2 kebabs the night before. Club would give players cash outside the salary cap.
Reiwolt had nothing but cliches to offer, line in the sand, cautionary tale, enough is enough, something has to be done. The afl already does enough, some people are going to make bad choices.
They're entitled and think they're invincible. They walk into the AFL system, get mollycoddled, have their every need catered to, don't understand consequences of actions, and then when the gravy train abruptly ends, they fall off a cliff. The AFL, AFLPA and people and culture reps at footy clubs need to come up with a consistent framework to ensure a successful transition post-AFL. Very few make enough to be set for life at 35. The players doing this stuff also need to get their heads out of their arses. They're role models and professionals doing a job most would dream of and need to be serious about it.
Spot on, Matthew. AFL players are incredibly fortunate and privileged in the support available to them around these issues. I’m sure that many have been steered back to the right path. However, it remains the case that more is needed for some people.
Good point but on the other hand, the opportunities to obtain and engage in nefarious activities, can’t be understated also. So it’s a catch 22. Their wages allow for some sizeable pocket money also.
I'm curious how much of player's actions after footy can be traced to mental health caused by head injury? In the NFL most of the tragic stories you hear about retired players are some form of mental health issue (usually caused by head trauma) that leads to drug abuse, violence, and in numerous cases suicide. Combine that with a career of being pushed by your employer to take drugs so that you can be healthy enough to provide value on your contract, no one is surprised when players retire and have to become drug addicts just to be able to get out of bed in the morning and take their kids to school. Does that side of things get discussed in AFL circles?
It does not get discussed as much as it should. A lot of players have mental issues, ranging from slight forgetfulness to sympyoms that resemble dementia. If the AFL and players association should be looking at anything, that is where they should be looking. Unfortunately there is no easy answer and the AFL would prefer to look like they are doing something rather than actually doing something.
concussion causes drug use but drug use in pro sports is like putting sauce on your pasta - they go hand in hand because the same blokes who sell performance drugs sell all other illicit drugs, they have dealers throughout their clubs and gyms it becomes very easy at the top level with the money and fame to use drugs.
clubs and leagues are not held accountable particularly the AFL. AFL are in bed with government police and sporting bodies and all the drug issues are swept under the rug. It's like working for the CIA - everything is kept a secret and there is no accountability when the governments are protecting the billion dollar industry so they can get their fare share of tax income.
One of the reasons the AFL has successfully hidden such large quantities of Drug use for so many years is that they have no competition, they pretty much encapsulate the entire landscape of aussie rules football in the whole world and even own the clubs in the AFL, and control them and now want to own junior clubs and even want their hands on all states local top tier leagues by putting them into the AFL reserves competition. While this brings more money into the game and better wages, it makes it incredibly difficult for anybody to come forward with the truth to the extent of their drug usage in fear of being blacklisted by the AFL and having no other league to work for or play in. If there were say 5 competitions with Aussie Rules football all earning money which is possible then people would be honest about issues like drugs in the public and come forward because they have alternative employment and aren't scared of shaming their bosses whether it be those at their club or the AFL. Why does the AFL have the cleanest image of any sport in the world? Look at all the US sports which have multiple well funded amateur leagues but well publicised drug and other behavioural issues which have not had a huge impact on fan support either - AFL top tier ex players may be lucky at the top level to earn $1,000 per game in a local league which pails in comparison to the $30,000 per game at AFL level. In the US there have been many more drug scandals because players essentially know when their time is up they have somewhere else to go to continue what they know best - whether it be continue playing, coaching, media, development, promotion, or hundreds of other sporting roles that are not central like the AFL.
your talking about 20yr ol pups. who earn 250k a yr . the ben cousins issue was alive and well long before it was media. passed out in a restaurant with Michael gardner
So on one hand Ross says it was the club doctor that was privy to that info, not the senior coach, and on the other, he says Hirdy should've known everything about every department, while Ross pushes the responsibility to club doctors etc.
Might be a bit of a difference between one player being on drugs, and having his habit privately protected by the club doctor, as opposed to Essendon setting up an IV clinic onsite so that they didn't have to travel in order to give every single one of their players illegal drugs.
@@jornavyr2459 I understand your opinion on the first point, but illegal? I'll say it for the hundredth time, not 1 player tested positive to ANY illegal substances.
What other Industry holds your hand after you leave it? These AFL Players need to grow up. Nick Riewoldt crying won't turn the AFL into babysitters after a Player's career is over.
Once upon a time bad/unsociable/criminal behaviour was met with condemnation, shaming, ostracism etc. Not anymore. Now we look for any excuse. He had a bad upbringing. He fell on hard times. He fell in with the wrong crowd. He wasn't given enough support. The list goes on. Despite our supposed compassion I don't see things getting better, only worse. If a man is not responsible for his own behaviour then he cannot possibly change it. We're all objects now.
They don't study full-time, but they start working towards it in a slower pace, and hopefully by the time they are out the system they already have their degree, or are close to completing it, so on the end of it they either continue studies or can step into a decent job.
Everyone who watched and listened to this - made that choice . Everyone reading these comments - made that choice . Everyone who takes drugs , deals drugs - EXACLY it's a choice .
AFL players shouldn’t be treated any different to any other civilian. I dislike how they are being put on a pedestal about they need help with life after AFL. There is serious money that footballers earn in comparison to the average wage, if someone is going to waste it on drugs or illegal activity, well that’s what they are going to do. That’s a legal issue and a broader issue of society. Yes there are drugs and alcohol everywhere and a lot of people battle with those temptations, it’s a common problem in society and not an AFL problem. We all have choices in life, we all have moments in our life where we don’t know which path to take in both a career and personal life. These are grown adults who know right from wrong. I don’t have any sympathy for the players, particularly those that go and seek trouble such as Sam fisher and then it’s ‘oh poor Sam he was lost in life’…no he had money and resources and decided to be a criminal. It’s as simple as that!
The study system in the USA for collegiate athletes is a joke. Athletes get preferential treatment, don't have to show up to class, get pushed through the system because they are helping make big cash for the school. USA athletes have same issues, most are in trouble with the law and or bankrupt within a few years of exiting professional sport. Players association need to help players more for after career goals.
Ohhhh, poor AFL players getting paid a packet and then need more help and support. Why are these players continually placed as role models, stop discussing their personal life and just talk about the game.
Poor Sam spiraled into a depression of the kind that can only be managed by trafficking drugs. Give me a break. There is always a barber college if job prospects are slim.
What is it for to do with the Afl after played finish playing football, when are players grow up take responsibility for their action when are people stop making excuses for these players they are not kids, they do it to them self
These kids get paid a lot of money and then it all stops, that's why they need to invest instead of spend it all, it's up to them, if they want to party and waste all their money on drugs and alcohol that's their own prerogative
Why is everyone outraged or shocked that Saints side had drug issues? Lol they were all running wild, banging school girls, multiple rape allegations, just lucky social media wasn’t as prevalent.
they will only get tested randomly like 3-4 times max. Clubs are probably warned previously. Players have been caught, something like 50 per year. If they were tested 100 times per year, there would be 1,000 + positive tests. Or maybe if they were tested that regularly it might encourage them to stop using.
@@disgruntledformeryfopinion1927 on the flip side should the clubs actively look to find issues with their players. if they are performing on the field and winning. is that their job ? Is it for the AFL to decide a policy and the clubs to follow it
@@londonman8688 Hmm, you could go either way and have less or more player freedom. The way it is at the moment the players are making the drugs rules which is not determined by a third party who is neutral. If the goal is to get players off drugs, then getting a third party involved at the sake of certain freedoms. You could say if the clubs will control their own players, would corruption at the club level increase without central control? I think there should be little involvement by the AFL but be aware that this also has not worked.
@@londonman8688 I'm assuming they employ independent testers? I'm not sure. However I have walked past rooms that say "drug Testing" on them at the MCG which is highly suspicious and looks to be a central controlled thing. I'm thinking the more central control the more covering up is possible. Government and AFL have huge interest in keeping the sports image clean at the sake of player health.
that's part of the problem. So much money in the game. Pressure to perform. Encourages them to use substances. Psych's are just bandaids. Club will employs hundreds of people to help with performance.
I am likely the most handsome AFL player who ever played. I won't say anymore than that other than I played for a Victorian club for one year as a rookie listed player sometime in the last 15 years. Now I am on a disability payment for drug induced psychosis. I blame the AFL. Aussie Rules is beautiful game. AFL is dirty.
What makes anyone imagine footy players are somehow immune to peer pressure, greed, weakness, poor decisions…all the temptations that we all face? Why aren’t we all on drugs? Because we’re not weak, or we accept responsibility as adults. The money’s not enough? Jesus! It’s why the temptations are so easily and readily affordable! Adults make adult choices. Let them face adult consequences. Most of us are able to. What makes AFL players so weak? The hero worship? The adulation? The fame? The notoriety? The fact that drug pushers know they’ve got truckloads of dough? The nightclub scene? What?
we are also not in workplaces like AFL where they seek pain reduction, have huge incomes, do everything as a team which means 1 player does it they all do it. They are also in peak drug use age. They're careers only last 15 years maximum and many are set up to never work again but that doesn't work they lose their money because they don't realise how important a good job is.
Gotta respect Eddie, there’s no issue he can’t make about himself
Yeah I'm a Pie man but jeez he goes on....
He's a pain the ass
its amazing to be honest
Sam fisher, Dane swan, Dustin Martin, josh caddy… fair crew there…
all drug addicts.
They all loved him cause he shouted the bags that night!
Why is rewoldt treating former AFL athletes like war veterans who have suffered PTSD?
bang. best answer ive seen
I’m a bit over how we molly coddle afl players as well.
Could not agree more!
AFL players are drug addicts 90% of them. look at Gold coast. Even Carmichael hunt said the only player who didn't do cocaine was religious Gary Ablett hint hint.
To be fair some no doubt have CTE which is a concern with concussions (especially undiagnosed ones)
Experimenting with drugs is pretty normal for young people in Australia. There is a difference between curiosity and dependence. The best way to prevent substance abuse is maintaining environments where people don't feel the need to constantly escape reality.
Yep. Then there is a whole nother leap to trafficking the stuff
As a st kilda and sam fisher fan, sometimes people make bad choices. These are players who have a great deal of money, resources and support around them and still do the wrong thing. Do you think these media personalities and past players would be acting this way if it was some bloke down the end of their street who did it? I think not. Being a good football player doesn’t exempt you from consequences.
Found it strange that they didn't broach the subject of his ex partner taking his home and all of his superannuation and Sam having to "start all over again" money wise, maybe that's not helped that he's sunken this low !!! For his own coach to admit he knew he "partied hard at times", well that speaks volumes because he sounded totally understated when he made that remark. I love what Rossy did for the Saints, but he surely would've been told by the club of every single issue concerning drug abuse around that club but chose to ignore it, like very other club and coach in the AFL.
3 strikes is a joke....... Go tell Joe Blow he gets 3x strikes for misdemeanors in general public and see how far that riles the community......
@@TheHackman44 do you really think the saints knew about the extent of the drug problems? There’s no way Ross would turn a blind eye to it, both of you are completely speculating
@@Hehawtyragu As are you !!!
Well said mate i agree.
@@Hehawtyragu of course they did, it was all of the news all the time. They were partying hard
Ross Lyon gets a lot of hate but his rule about you have to build a career after football because the money isnt enough for a lifetime is really impressive and you cant question he put his players 1st
Very smart guy, good head on him. In the footy off-season he used to travel to the US, do further university courses and such. Think he also did an MBA. He has always been the firm coach/dad. Head down, get to work, get ahead.
I’m really happy to have him back at the saints, he’s just smart
Ross is 100% right in saying that the AFL has no levers to pull to set players up for life after footy. That should be where the discussion is, not offering empty platitudes and justifying informal support systems like McGuire is suggesting. He doesn't actually offer any pathways to prevent drug use by players, all he does it say 'oh we need to prevent it'.
As Ross "the Boss" says, "wake up and get moving!"
@genuine guy not really. All those support systems are about being a better afl player and that’s all
@genuine guy what are any of these imaginary support systems that make their lives so easy? They get money. And training for AFL.
@genuine guy I agree that players are incredibly spoilt, but that just makes the system even worse. It's important to remember that these players are often drafted at 18, straight out of highschool and so they have very little if at all an real life experience. Yes, they get paid a lot and are given a lot of attention during their playing career, but once that's over they're forgotten about. Can you imagine how that would feel? Especially so when they're essentially underdeveloped mentally compared to the rest of society's adults.
I don’t think we are understanding that this conversation of drug use is a broader topic of society. It’s got nothing to do with the AFL…it’s just that these players have the money to be able to partake in those risk taking behaviours. These players will do it regardless.
It's not the club or the AFL's problem what an individual does to make a living.
Well yes it is. They are kept to a standard, they are role models. If they make a loving by trafficking drugs how is that I good image for young kids looking up to them?
@@leighbull32 probably about time parents start being role models rather than TV characters
@@LaShYz1 its not the parents that choose a childs role model its the child, its not easy to get them to look up to their parents especially with this new age of social media dependencies i mean ive got family members who are in primary school that just wont get of their tablets or phones. So what they see is based on who they look up to. Im sure if you can manage to get some children to look up to parents it would be good but its very hard to do that
@@leighbull32 Role models!?
Pathetic.
@@mytwosense9135 yeah weather they like it or not they are role models to young kids who play football. Comes with the territory
I played for an AFL club for one year. Biggest drug culture ever. I never got a game. Peptide program where only a couple of players weren't injecting. Drugs every weekend players would rock up training on Monday off their rockers. Players spuing up so they'd meet bodyfat tests after eating 2 kebabs the night before. Club would give players cash outside the salary cap.
Reiwolt had nothing but cliches to offer, line in the sand, cautionary tale, enough is enough, something has to be done. The afl already does enough, some people are going to make bad choices.
Agree. Drug abuse and trafficking are very different regardless
Well said, it’s a reflection of wider society.
@@lukepittle8961 very much so.
AFL is useless there no accountability who are you kidding….they get away with murder while the afl is busy playing leftie pc politics
Eddy still searching for that fact on his phone?
They're entitled and think they're invincible. They walk into the AFL system, get mollycoddled, have their every need catered to, don't understand consequences of actions, and then when the gravy train abruptly ends, they fall off a cliff. The AFL, AFLPA and people and culture reps at footy clubs need to come up with a consistent framework to ensure a successful transition post-AFL. Very few make enough to be set for life at 35. The players doing this stuff also need to get their heads out of their arses. They're role models and professionals doing a job most would dream of and need to be serious about it.
Showing your age, Eddie. Just say no? The western world has tried that for decades and it has only resulted in death and heartache. Move forward, Ed.
Yeah he's super wrong about this, you can't stop people from doing drugs. Wake up and do some reading, or talk to someone who isn't in his bubble.
Spot on, Matthew. AFL players are incredibly fortunate and privileged in the support available to them around these issues. I’m sure that many have been steered back to the right path. However, it remains the case that more is needed for some people.
Good point but on the other hand, the opportunities to obtain and engage in nefarious activities, can’t be understated also. So it’s a catch 22. Their wages allow for some sizeable pocket money also.
I'm curious how much of player's actions after footy can be traced to mental health caused by head injury? In the NFL most of the tragic stories you hear about retired players are some form of mental health issue (usually caused by head trauma) that leads to drug abuse, violence, and in numerous cases suicide. Combine that with a career of being pushed by your employer to take drugs so that you can be healthy enough to provide value on your contract, no one is surprised when players retire and have to become drug addicts just to be able to get out of bed in the morning and take their kids to school. Does that side of things get discussed in AFL circles?
It does not get discussed as much as it should. A lot of players have mental issues, ranging from slight forgetfulness to sympyoms that resemble dementia.
If the AFL and players association should be looking at anything, that is where they should be looking. Unfortunately there is no easy answer and the AFL would prefer to look like they are doing something rather than actually doing something.
concussion causes drug use but drug use in pro sports is like putting sauce on your pasta - they go hand in hand because the same blokes who sell performance drugs sell all other illicit drugs, they have dealers throughout their clubs and gyms it becomes very easy at the top level with the money and fame to use drugs.
clubs and leagues are not held accountable particularly the AFL. AFL are in bed with government police and sporting bodies and all the drug issues are swept under the rug. It's like working for the CIA - everything is kept a secret and there is no accountability when the governments are protecting the billion dollar industry so they can get their fare share of tax income.
Dane swan dusty in LA, wonder what they were doing😂
Probably juat doing Vegas the way you do it . Not every player does drugs
Research josh caddy and his older brother. No wonder it turned this way.
2 good lads, stars, enjoying their spoils, and life. Good on em.
Exactly what I was thinking
@@gavaniacono Good lil boys just casually hanging out with drug traffickers. Nothing to see here.
Completely agree with every single word Ross Lyon said.
Eddie makes me laugh, he tries so hard........ reminds me of David Brent from The Office without the humour.
Spending all that time looking up an irrelevant statistic on his phone...
One of the reasons the AFL has successfully hidden such large quantities of Drug use for so many years is that they have no competition, they pretty much encapsulate the entire landscape of aussie rules football in the whole world and even own the clubs in the AFL, and control them and now want to own junior clubs and even want their hands on all states local top tier leagues by putting them into the AFL reserves competition. While this brings more money into the game and better wages, it makes it incredibly difficult for anybody to come forward with the truth to the extent of their drug usage in fear of being blacklisted by the AFL and having no other league to work for or play in. If there were say 5 competitions with Aussie Rules football all earning money which is possible then people would be honest about issues like drugs in the public and come forward because they have alternative employment and aren't scared of shaming their bosses whether it be those at their club or the AFL. Why does the AFL have the cleanest image of any sport in the world? Look at all the US sports which have multiple well funded amateur leagues but well publicised drug and other behavioural issues which have not had a huge impact on fan support either - AFL top tier ex players may be lucky at the top level to earn $1,000 per game in a local league which pails in comparison to the $30,000 per game at AFL level. In the US there have been many more drug scandals because players essentially know when their time is up they have somewhere else to go to continue what they know best - whether it be continue playing, coaching, media, development, promotion, or hundreds of other sporting roles that are not central like the AFL.
your talking about 20yr ol pups.
who earn 250k a yr .
the ben cousins issue was alive and well long before it was media.
passed out in a restaurant with Michael gardner
So on one hand Ross says it was the club doctor that was privy to that info, not the senior coach, and on the other, he says Hirdy should've known everything about every department, while Ross pushes the responsibility to club doctors etc.
Might be a bit of a difference between one player being on drugs, and having his habit privately protected by the club doctor, as opposed to Essendon setting up an IV clinic onsite so that they didn't have to travel in order to give every single one of their players illegal drugs.
@@jornavyr2459
I understand your opinion on the first point, but illegal? I'll say it for the hundredth time, not 1 player tested positive to ANY illegal substances.
What about Sam’s responsibilities?
That is an individuals personal life details, not an entire team (health and fitness) football program. There is a huge difference in that.
What other Industry holds your hand after you leave it? These AFL Players need to grow up. Nick Riewoldt crying won't turn the AFL into babysitters after a Player's career is over.
Agree 100% with Ed and Ross
Once upon a time bad/unsociable/criminal behaviour was met with condemnation, shaming, ostracism etc. Not anymore. Now we look for any excuse. He had a bad upbringing. He fell on hard times. He fell in with the wrong crowd. He wasn't given enough support. The list goes on. Despite our supposed compassion I don't see things getting better, only worse. If a man is not responsible for his own behaviour then he cannot possibly change it. We're all objects now.
You couldn't of said it better mate.
respect that honesty
How can you study full time and play AFL full time? 4:28
They don't study full-time, but they start working towards it in a slower pace, and hopefully by the time they are out the system they already have their degree, or are close to completing it, so on the end of it they either continue studies or can step into a decent job.
Everyone who watched and listened to this - made that choice . Everyone reading these comments - made that choice . Everyone who takes drugs , deals drugs - EXACLY it's a choice .
AFL players shouldn’t be treated any different to any other civilian. I dislike how they are being put on a pedestal about they need help with life after AFL. There is serious money that footballers earn in comparison to the average wage, if someone is going to waste it on drugs or illegal activity, well that’s what they are going to do. That’s a legal issue and a broader issue of society. Yes there are drugs and alcohol everywhere and a lot of people battle with those temptations, it’s a common problem in society and not an AFL problem. We all have choices in life, we all have moments in our life where we don’t know which path to take in both a career and personal life. These are grown adults who know right from wrong. I don’t have any sympathy for the players, particularly those that go and seek trouble such as Sam fisher and then it’s ‘oh poor Sam he was lost in life’…no he had money and resources and decided to be a criminal. It’s as simple as that!
What's happening with Carros arrow is it still going she's fairly good
According to Eddie he has invented everything!
According to Eddie he's the greatest and has never done anything wrong
This just reminds me how little Caroline wilson knows about the afl. Has absolutely 0 clue on what she is talking about.
AFL needs a university system. We have similar problems in Canada with our hockey players that go CHL over university
The study system in the USA for collegiate athletes is a joke. Athletes get preferential treatment, don't have to show up to class, get pushed through the system because they are helping make big cash for the school. USA athletes have same issues, most are in trouble with the law and or bankrupt within a few years of exiting professional sport. Players association need to help players more for after career goals.
Maybe set a safe drug room for AFL players next to a school run by the AFLPA ?
Ohhhh, poor AFL players getting paid a packet and then need more help and support. Why are these players continually placed as role models, stop discussing their personal life and just talk about the game.
Poor Sam spiraled into a depression of the kind that can only be managed by trafficking drugs. Give me a break. There is always a barber college if job prospects are slim.
look this fella fisher could have become a fisherman. Anything. Too bad he hung out with too many druggies in the AFL.
Are alcohol, gambling and fast-food/sugar drugs?
Does the AFL take their money for sponsorship?
just like soccer, Aussie rules is a working class sport .. less issues happy in rugby union
What is it for to do with the Afl after played finish playing football, when are players grow up take responsibility for their action when are people stop making excuses for these players they are not kids, they do it to them self
These kids get paid a lot of money and then it all stops, that's why they need to invest instead of spend it all, it's up to them, if they want to party and waste all their money on drugs and alcohol that's their own prerogative
At the end of the day if they needed support. How about we take their money?
we saw the way players were treated during knockdown and how they whinged about being away from families.. pampered prima donas paid millions
cry me a river, get paid overs then complain that they need more cotton wool. welcome to society fellas.
Why is everyone outraged or shocked that Saints side had drug issues? Lol they were all running wild, banging school girls, multiple rape allegations, just lucky social media wasn’t as prevalent.
do afl teams require random drug tests from players throughout the year ?
they will only get tested randomly like 3-4 times max. Clubs are probably warned previously. Players have been caught, something like 50 per year. If they were tested 100 times per year, there would be 1,000 + positive tests. Or maybe if they were tested that regularly it might encourage them to stop using.
@@disgruntledformeryfopinion1927 on the flip side should the clubs actively look to find issues with their players. if they are performing on the field and winning. is that their job ? Is it for the AFL to decide a policy and the clubs to follow it
@@londonman8688 Hmm, you could go either way and have less or more player freedom. The way it is at the moment the players are making the drugs rules which is not determined by a third party who is neutral. If the goal is to get players off drugs, then getting a third party involved at the sake of certain freedoms. You could say if the clubs will control their own players, would corruption at the club level increase without central control? I think there should be little involvement by the AFL but be aware that this also has not worked.
@@disgruntledformeryfopinion1927 does the AFL/ clubs test for performance enhancing drugs ?
@@londonman8688 I'm assuming they employ independent testers? I'm not sure. However I have walked past rooms that say "drug Testing" on them at the MCG which is highly suspicious and looks to be a central controlled thing. I'm thinking the more central control the more covering up is possible. Government and AFL have huge interest in keeping the sports image clean at the sake of player health.
how many sport psychologists do teams hire ?
that's part of the problem. So much money in the game. Pressure to perform. Encourages them to use substances. Psych's are just bandaids. Club will employs hundreds of people to help with performance.
yea righdo Eddie “just say no”- supreme intellect
clubs should be teaching professional players how to cope with retirement from the 1st day they arrive
When are the clubs are going to step up and take responsibility and make the new players the come to the club sign something they must go get job
Sometimes I wonder who is squeeming the most in these Q and A’s. Bit hard to commentate if your a known drug taker.
before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self - esteem, first make sure that
you are not in fact surrounded by a__holes
Maybe if the players got paid properly
Look at Ross shirking responsibility lol
It’s not his responsibility, he’s a grown ass man.
Why should Lyon be responsible for another adult's decisions?
Pretty simple. Test regularly and tolerate nothing. Easy as you like.
the time spent getting tattoos should be the biggest warning to any club management of a player going wrong !
Drugs bruthaaaa
If the AFL. Is so horrific then let’s shut it down. Can’t have people earning 200000 plus a year and turn to drugs🤪
Not the AFL business.
reminds me of Stuart MacGill
also an issue for cricket australia
It’s called having to much coin.
if you treat players like children, they will act like them
Mental how if a player bets, gets suspended for 6+ weeks, snort some coke.. nah all good mate..
money talks, rock stars footballers can do what they want
Rock star culture and money seems to always lead to higher level of drug use.
Player's have everything! really? How about someone called God?..
Maybe just take some responsibility for your decisions in life?
I am likely the most handsome AFL player who ever played. I won't say anymore than that other than I played for a Victorian club for one year as a rookie listed player sometime in the last 15 years. Now I am on a disability payment for drug induced psychosis. I blame the AFL. Aussie Rules is beautiful game. AFL is dirty.
Yeah, no flys on you, eh Ross...
bored payers with millions in the bank ..
A large percentage maybe 30% are on under 200k, still enough to live more comfortably than most of us but not millions.
What makes anyone imagine footy players are somehow immune to peer pressure, greed, weakness, poor decisions…all the temptations that we all face? Why aren’t we all on drugs? Because we’re not weak, or we accept responsibility as adults. The money’s not enough? Jesus! It’s why the temptations are so easily and readily affordable! Adults make adult choices. Let them face adult consequences. Most of us are able to. What makes AFL players so weak? The hero worship? The adulation? The fame? The notoriety? The fact that drug pushers know they’ve got truckloads of dough? The nightclub scene? What?
we are also not in workplaces like AFL where they seek pain reduction, have huge incomes, do everything as a team which means 1 player does it they all do it. They are also in peak drug use age. They're careers only last 15 years maximum and many are set up to never work again but that doesn't work they lose their money because they don't realise how important a good job is.