Nice. I wonder if it will actually help engine and trans mounts last longer by slightly reducing the amount of travel in their flex too. I'm sure it would be in the 1-20% added lifetime range if at all.
taking off the top mount (on my wrx) wasn't too difficult...it was putting in back on that bit me. The stupid rubber sleeves and the two bolts at the back corners. Even when it look fully seated, I couldn't get the bolt holes to line up. I ended up breaking the rubber isolated tab on plastic charge pipe. 😠
Do you have a video on the transmission mount possibly too? For the crosstrek? I was curious if the manual transmission mount is the same for the cvt ones.
I only remember seeing a general transmission mount (without "for manual" or "for CVT") when I was browsing for parts. Now that I'm checking, it looks like they do indeed use different mounts. Very similar looking, but definitely different enough that they can't be interchangeable.
Even without being worn, it will have some side to side wiggle. This part is mostly there to resist forward and back twisting motions; the other engine/transmission mounts will be more side to side twisting resistant. A clunk could also be drivetrain related. I'm about to do some diagnosing of a clunk on (some) braking when I get back from a trip. I'm pretty sure mine will be a center support bearing.
How is this holding up for you? Just ordered one for my ‘14 Forester XT. Do you feel an aftermarket brace is necessary as well? Car is a daily driver and not pushed too hard.
It's doing well, but I forget that I have that modification installed and don't have any "I'm glad I installed that!" moments. My engine is still making stock power through a CVT, though. More power and through a manual will be where this part shines.
I'm leaning more and more into the "this is better for more modified vehicles" camp with this one, and I haven't done any power upgrades yet, so I barely notice it aside from a little more engine noise coming into the cabin, which I like. Life span is another perk, but all things considered, it's tough to justify the price on a stock Crosstrek, but the more modified it gets, the more you get out of it. If I knew what I know now, I probably would have waited on this part until I put on some headers, intake, and/or a tune.
@@CarsSimplified woah, thanks for the quick reply! Ya mine is pretty modified, but less for power/engine performance and more for overland. I changed the axleback to one with a smaller muffler for slightly less weight and more clearance, bumpers are cut, 1.5” lift/subframe kit, skid plates. The thing that would be appealing to me is the feeling of a tad less lag. I feel like I’ve always noticed the engine “lurching” slightly when starting or when the CVT decides to “change gears” (even tho it’s just simulating it haha). I feel like I’m just very noticing of little tactile things like that.. not like it’s a huge issue. My Crosstrek is already a tad noisier due to the axle back, very glad I didn’t go the no-muffler route.
Ah, that does sound like a good application for this. There's also an upgraded CVT mount if I recall correctly (I know there's one for the MT, but I'm fairly certain it's a slightly different shape than the CVT) which I think may be an even better upgrade for that, but it's a much more involved installation. I haven't done that upgraded myself, so I couldn't say for sure how much better it is. Definitely wish all CVTs had a "stop pretending to have gear changes" setting so people could get the most out of them if they want to.
@@CarsSimplified installed it and appreciate smoother the feel, but there is definitely is a slight increase in the whine of the cvt and slight vibrations from the firewall that weren’t there before. I was able to get it for $87.00 shipped. Overall a good mod in my opinion.
Hey brotha, did you have your trek jacked up while doing this? Just installed one today on my 21' sport, and it was a very tight fit. Nowhere near as nice as your install went.
I don't think it was but I'm not 100% sure. I have the original footage on an external drive somewhere so I'll check that tomorrow and see if I have any other repair videos the same day that may have happened to have led me to having it jacked up, on ramps, or some other thing I didn't consider. The only thing that comes to mind is that around the same time I installed a steering damper clamp as well. I don't think I would have jacked it up or put it on ramps for that either. I think I may have edited out a little bit of pushing in the new part struggles, but I tend to only do that when the solution isn't complicated. But, sometimes I do miss things if I happen to try something right the first time or something just happens to be pre-loaded right when I record the video. I hope it wasn't an all-day thing!
@@CarsSimplified not all day, but definitely didn't just pop in lol had to pry each side to slip the bolt through, then thread it the rest of the way. My only theory is it may be more weight bearing with the 2.5 and it slipped a bit when I took the hem one off, idk though
I just watched the footage and it looks like the front wheels were on the ground. No signs that it had been up recently, either. (In my experience, the car sits about an inch higher for a bit after it has been in jacked up and put back down.) It does sound like there could be some potential differences between the engines. I expected the FB20 and FB25 to differ only internally, but perhaps there's more to it, or even something changed slightly in newer models regardless of engine size. If you figure it out, let me know!
@@CarsSimplified will do, drove it around today for the first time since install and it felt great, so I don’t think there’s any issues, could definitely use a few mm on perrins end though lol
I wasn't even aware of this part. Probably won't change mine. Glad it is easy to do.
Nice. I wonder if it will actually help engine and trans mounts last longer by slightly reducing the amount of travel in their flex too. I'm sure it would be in the 1-20% added lifetime range if at all.
Good video, good explanation. Subscribed
Was able to get this part at a good deal from blox racing. Can't wait to install it. Will be the first performance mod I do.
$37.50 is a steal.
Love this! Simple and much needed. Thanks man.
taking off the top mount (on my wrx) wasn't too difficult...it was putting in back on that bit me. The stupid rubber sleeves and the two bolts at the back corners. Even when it look fully seated, I couldn't get the bolt holes to line up. I ended up breaking the rubber isolated tab on plastic charge pipe. 😠
great video man thanks
Do you have a video on the transmission mount possibly too? For the crosstrek? I was curious if the manual transmission mount is the same for the cvt ones.
I only remember seeing a general transmission mount (without "for manual" or "for CVT") when I was browsing for parts. Now that I'm checking, it looks like they do indeed use different mounts. Very similar looking, but definitely different enough that they can't be interchangeable.
Will that pitch stop mount wiggle if it is worn? I am still trying to diagnose the "clunk" upon acceleration. Thanks.
Even without being worn, it will have some side to side wiggle. This part is mostly there to resist forward and back twisting motions; the other engine/transmission mounts will be more side to side twisting resistant. A clunk could also be drivetrain related. I'm about to do some diagnosing of a clunk on (some) braking when I get back from a trip. I'm pretty sure mine will be a center support bearing.
How is this holding up for you? Just ordered one for my ‘14 Forester XT. Do you feel an aftermarket brace is necessary as well? Car is a daily driver and not pushed too hard.
It's doing well, but I forget that I have that modification installed and don't have any "I'm glad I installed that!" moments. My engine is still making stock power through a CVT, though. More power and through a manual will be where this part shines.
Are you still enjoying this upgrade? Heavily considering it for my Crosstrek.
I'm leaning more and more into the "this is better for more modified vehicles" camp with this one, and I haven't done any power upgrades yet, so I barely notice it aside from a little more engine noise coming into the cabin, which I like. Life span is another perk, but all things considered, it's tough to justify the price on a stock Crosstrek, but the more modified it gets, the more you get out of it. If I knew what I know now, I probably would have waited on this part until I put on some headers, intake, and/or a tune.
@@CarsSimplified woah, thanks for the quick reply! Ya mine is pretty modified, but less for power/engine performance and more for overland. I changed the axleback to one with a smaller muffler for slightly less weight and more clearance, bumpers are cut, 1.5” lift/subframe kit, skid plates. The thing that would be appealing to me is the feeling of a tad less lag. I feel like I’ve always noticed the engine “lurching” slightly when starting or when the CVT decides to “change gears” (even tho it’s just simulating it haha). I feel like I’m just very noticing of little tactile things like that.. not like it’s a huge issue. My Crosstrek is already a tad noisier due to the axle back, very glad I didn’t go the no-muffler route.
Ah, that does sound like a good application for this. There's also an upgraded CVT mount if I recall correctly (I know there's one for the MT, but I'm fairly certain it's a slightly different shape than the CVT) which I think may be an even better upgrade for that, but it's a much more involved installation. I haven't done that upgraded myself, so I couldn't say for sure how much better it is.
Definitely wish all CVTs had a "stop pretending to have gear changes" setting so people could get the most out of them if they want to.
@@CarsSimplified same, wish there was a way to program that out haha
@@CarsSimplified installed it and appreciate smoother the feel, but there is definitely is a slight increase in the whine of the cvt and slight vibrations from the firewall that weren’t there before. I was able to get it for $87.00 shipped. Overall a good mod in my opinion.
Hey brotha,
did you have your trek jacked up while doing this? Just installed one today on my 21' sport, and it was a very tight fit. Nowhere near as nice as your install went.
I don't think it was but I'm not 100% sure. I have the original footage on an external drive somewhere so I'll check that tomorrow and see if I have any other repair videos the same day that may have happened to have led me to having it jacked up, on ramps, or some other thing I didn't consider.
The only thing that comes to mind is that around the same time I installed a steering damper clamp as well. I don't think I would have jacked it up or put it on ramps for that either.
I think I may have edited out a little bit of pushing in the new part struggles, but I tend to only do that when the solution isn't complicated. But, sometimes I do miss things if I happen to try something right the first time or something just happens to be pre-loaded right when I record the video. I hope it wasn't an all-day thing!
@@CarsSimplified not all day, but definitely didn't just pop in lol
had to pry each side to slip the bolt through, then thread it the rest of the way. My only theory is it may be more weight bearing with the 2.5 and it slipped a bit when I took the hem one off, idk though
I just watched the footage and it looks like the front wheels were on the ground. No signs that it had been up recently, either. (In my experience, the car sits about an inch higher for a bit after it has been in jacked up and put back down.)
It does sound like there could be some potential differences between the engines. I expected the FB20 and FB25 to differ only internally, but perhaps there's more to it, or even something changed slightly in newer models regardless of engine size. If you figure it out, let me know!
@@CarsSimplified will do, drove it around today for the first time since install and it felt great, so I don’t think there’s any issues, could definitely use a few mm on perrins end though lol
wonder where it is located in a 2.5i Gen 5 Outback.
same place....