G24(t): Germany’s Take on the Czechoslovakian vz24

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  • @madpackrips
    @madpackrips 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +32

    As a seller of original German WW2 photos for 2.5 decades, this rifle and the Czech version are not seen very often in photos and even more rare with the front side hood still being attached.
    Ian has actually helped identify various firearms in photos for me in the past, ironically Czech made firearms. Great guy, great channel!
    Thanks for what you do!!

  • @scottkrafft6830
    @scottkrafft6830 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +67

    I have one of these rifles! It's an A block rifle from 1941, all matching, so it's one of the very first ones made. It does have the hardwood stock and not laminate. It's serial number 3741(a).

    • @RamBam3000
      @RamBam3000 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      Wow, lucky you, having such an antique.

    • @romaboo6218
      @romaboo6218 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@abaialsa712 Thats cool man.

    • @williamlloyd3769
      @williamlloyd3769 52 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      Vintage not antique. Still usage

  • @spikymikie
    @spikymikie ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

    That has some BEAUTIFUL furniture on it. And I never met a Mauser I didnt like. I have a Turkish K98 myself.

  • @Onitsutube
    @Onitsutube 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +145

    hey Ian, just a small correction from a Slovak fan :) the town You mentioned is "Povazska Bystrica" not just "Bystrica".... may seem as nitpicking, but there is no town called "Bystrica" in Slovakia, but we have several "something" - Bystrica (Banska Bystrica for instance) :) So saying just "Bystrica" is quite confusing ;)

    • @Sralazar
      @Sralazar 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      🤓

    • @thestørmcrier2024
      @thestørmcrier2024 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      What does Bystrica mean?

    • @DavidVincent-f5l
      @DavidVincent-f5l 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Onitsutube, just a idea. If you work for any museum that Ian likes to visit. Stage a back to the classroom experience for Ian. Like he's for the moment loosing his historical certificate. Has to pass a exam. Great late April fools joke.

    • @CHMichael
      @CHMichael 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Onitsutube Neusohl until 1867

    • @Onitsutube
      @Onitsutube 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

      @@thestørmcrier2024 it's a bit tricky to translate... sort of a small, fast flowing river I guess would be the closest thing that gets into my mind... but it's not entirely correct...

  • @vaclavmajer5488
    @vaclavmajer5488 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +12

    i love how he cares enough to say the names properly
    very rare on youtube

    • @LD-Orbs
      @LD-Orbs ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      I like Ian's attitude here. Impressive, and appreciated! 🗣

  • @cheesenoodles8316
    @cheesenoodles8316 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Very nice example. I obtained an example of the first VZ24s sent to Germany. Shopping for a K98kkl, but found a nice matching VZ24, informed later the filled in wrist swivel, blued bolt and added 2 digit serial number to a few places. The collecting of German WWII weapons is a minefield.

  • @zacharyrollick6169
    @zacharyrollick6169 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +21

    Beautiful piece

  • @Mygg_Jeager
    @Mygg_Jeager 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

    Last time I was this early to a forgotten weapons video, the G24(t) was still in service.

    • @MichalKolac
      @MichalKolac 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      †††

  • @pepethefrog6355
    @pepethefrog6355 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Love the "Škoda" pronounciation

  • @Grubnar
    @Grubnar 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    It is beautiful! And looks like it is brand new. An excellent item!

  • @pepethefrog6355
    @pepethefrog6355 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    I say i appreciate your help too the Starboard Studios.

  • @MusicHavenSG
    @MusicHavenSG 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Quite a nice piece that looks better than the standard K98K even though it is essentially one, with similar ergonomics but a different shaped bolt.

  • @ThreenaddiesRexMegistus
    @ThreenaddiesRexMegistus 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    Nice build quality, as you’d expect from the Czechs. 👍🏻

  • @F4Wildcat
    @F4Wildcat 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

    This is the weapon that got used to club my 6 year old grandfather half dead when he refused to let SS troops to take his cow at the farm.. he always disliked germans after that. The perpetrators were a SS flak unit stationed near keerbergen, 1942 belgium.

  • @Balrog2005
    @Balrog2005 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    This and the special gebirg carbine are the best bolt action, for me, of WW2.

  • @garrisonandrew9862
    @garrisonandrew9862 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

    I have one, the straight bolt was bent. Unknown if it was done by the Germans or post war.

  • @吳秉樺-b7j
    @吳秉樺-b7j 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +25

    The longer handguard is frankly a better design than the k98k, some videos suggest that longer handguard gives the shooter more space to grip the gun, which is beneficial in large volume rapid fire.

    • @124thDragoon
      @124thDragoon 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      It’s also generally more useful for bayonet combat, for back when that was a relevant concern.

    • @TheTrueNorth11
      @TheTrueNorth11 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@124thDragoonIn Europe, not really.

  • @Dumplingu
    @Dumplingu 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    A very pretty rifle

  • @osesteel2627
    @osesteel2627 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    You forgot something. The bayonet cutting is different contrary to a 98k bayonet . The cutting is on the top side.

  • @zed639
    @zed639 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thanks, very informative.

  • @aljole683
    @aljole683 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

    Taking over “ownership” by forcing someone to take a payment under threat of death is still theft.

    • @heinerheise703
      @heinerheise703 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      Wouldn't it be more like blackmailing or robbery?

    • @yolobathsalts
      @yolobathsalts 18 นาทีที่ผ่านมา +1

      Tell that to the libs

    • @Simon_Nonymous
      @Simon_Nonymous 4 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      I think Ian has been somewhat circumspect with his language on this one - e.g. when the Germans 'took over' Czechoslovakia. I'm here for his knowledge of firearms though, not to debate his choice of pharses with you good people. 🙂

    • @JeffEbe-te2xs
      @JeffEbe-te2xs 48 วินาทีที่ผ่านมา

      Or the government

  • @parrotraiser6541
    @parrotraiser6541 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    The furniture on that is in beautiful condition. Was it forgotten in storage somewhere? It doesn't look as though it saw any combat.

    • @JeffEbe-te2xs
      @JeffEbe-te2xs 4 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      May have been refurbished before storage

  • @AlexanderEddy
    @AlexanderEddy 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    That's a beautiful rifle

  • @TheMosinCrate
    @TheMosinCrate 38 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    These are a surprisingly beefy rifle because of the furniture. I also have a 1941 in the D block(4k later than the one Ian is showing.)

  • @johnschofield9496
    @johnschofield9496 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I hate to think how many of these gems got "bubba'd" !!!

  • @randyhavard6084
    @randyhavard6084 21 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    That rifle appears to be in fantastic shape

  • @christopherbargerstock1529
    @christopherbargerstock1529 53 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Also of note, these and the VZ-24 have rear sights with a 300m min range setting as opposed to the K98 100m.

  • @nicholasdenn4052
    @nicholasdenn4052 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    It would maybe be difficult to do but for German made versions of different countries guns it'd be cool to see a side by side of the German and original

  • @cheften2mk
    @cheften2mk 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    Did the Germans use Polish mausers as well?

    • @RadekPožga
      @RadekPožga 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      Yes, karabinek wz 29

  • @DualDesertEagle
    @DualDesertEagle 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +12

    Lol, 1 minute ago, 2nd time in recent weeks that I almost got to watch a video immediatly after it's been published 😂

  • @danielburgess7785
    @danielburgess7785 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    That piece looks like it just came out of the shipping box.

  • @Roethorn_pb
    @Roethorn_pb ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Ian, does the Antique Firearms interest/community/trade have a problem with Forgeries/Imposter replicas, perhaps made with genuine parts, but frankened; incorrect to historical production?
    i.e missing, incorrect and faked markings, serials, interchanged components from wrong time-period, etc.?
    I have noticed lots of your more recent videos have reflected well up correct identification markings.

    • @ForgottenWeapons
      @ForgottenWeapons  ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      Some problems, yes. In some specific areas there are a fair number of deliberate forgeries (especially SS guns, for example). In other areas there are a reasonable number of guns with replacement parts, often done without malice. For example, sometimes US troops were given an opportunity to take souvenir rifles from big piles of guns turned in by surrendered enemy; those often had the bolt removed when turned in. So a US soldier would take a rifle form one pile and then get a bolt from the pile of bolts, resulting in a mismatched gun. For the collector, a matching one is definitely more desirable.

  • @LadyAnuB
    @LadyAnuB 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +11

    Seeing the wood furniture on this rifle I thought plywood! Turns out I was right as it is laminated wood

    • @ndenise3460
      @ndenise3460 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Plywood has the veneers on either 45/90degree offset. Laminate is all same direction. Laminate is a better material for stocks as it is less affected by humidity, is stronger, and damps vibration better

  • @MrSman67
    @MrSman67 34 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Please do a review of made for Iran vz.24 if you get a chance. They are really beautiful.

  • @ondratrnka5691
    @ondratrnka5691 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Seems that rear sights block and safery lever have original "Zbrojovka" proofmarks yet.

  • @theblindsniper9130
    @theblindsniper9130 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Man i wish my gun videos would get 7k views in an hour lmao as for the topic, people under estimate just how many models of 98 mauser are out there alone. I hear all the time 'Germany used THIS' with a certainty that leans towards nothing else being used, because they didnt see it in a movie or video game. Germany used sooooo many different mausers. So did sooooo many different countries.

  • @PavelNygryn
    @PavelNygryn 26 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Just to clarify - Germans didn't take over Czechoslovakia - only Czechia. Slovakia splits up at the same time (one day prior to occupation of Czechia) with it's own fascist government and becomes ally of Germany. As this factory in Povážská Bystrica was in Slovakia, Germans had to make "proper business" in this case. That's why they take only significant share, not whole company.

  • @Pedrolawless
    @Pedrolawless 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    Glory to the Emperor of Mankind

  • @TorquilBletchleySmythe
    @TorquilBletchleySmythe 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Generic comment regarding being an early commentator, which sounded funnier in my head than on screen. Gun Jesus backup comment loading...

  • @MichalKolac
    @MichalKolac 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Tschechoslowakei

  • @CHMichael
    @CHMichael 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +17

    When we think of Germany marching in we have to remember that in many regions they were celebrated rather than fought. The issue of not so historical borders.. Banska Bystrica was Neusohl until 1867

    • @michalsoukup1021
      @michalsoukup1021 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      They signed the treaty, thdy gage up all rights to those lands in perpetuity.

    • @ДмитрийСергеев-ю1х
      @ДмитрийСергеев-ю1х 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      Aha. And remember, that only one State had enouth courage to stop this madness.

    • @MrKronikDeception
      @MrKronikDeception 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

      ​@@ДмитрийСергеев-ю1х thank goodness for the UK.
      The USSR was initially an ally of Germany in 1939.

    • @TheTrueNorth11
      @TheTrueNorth11 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@ДмитрийСергеев-ю1хHad nothing to do with courage, and everything to do with population, geography, and economic/military power.

    • @amhuman5138
      @amhuman5138 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      I'm replying here to watch the inevitable argument

  • @up_dogF1
    @up_dogF1 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    early gang rise up!

  • @Dominic1962
    @Dominic1962 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    1st!

  • @BullFernando-p2d
    @BullFernando-p2d 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Withe looking wood = bad quality.

    • @alexvisser5913
      @alexvisser5913 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +12

      Why? These laminate stocks are sturdier then original k98 walnut stocks

    • @TheTrueNorth11
      @TheTrueNorth11 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      Pretty ignorant.

    • @RedBaronSVK
      @RedBaronSVK 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Its funny to see someone acting like - i know everything , but in fact you talking sh"its . If you think the good or bad wood its about they color , youre know a nothing about it :) But yeah . Whats expect from internet "expert"

    • @jalpat2272
      @jalpat2272 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@alexvisser5913how so, I am truly ignorant to wood working, please kindly explain it to me good sir.

    • @davidbetters3458
      @davidbetters3458 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@jalpat2272 Laminates are less prone to warping in heat & humidity or temp changes, and since it's not just one big solid chunk of hardwood, it's less likely to snap or shatter.
      edit: and it's quite a bit cheaper to produce as well, definitely helpful for producing wartime rifles.
      Iirc most AKs with wood furniture also use laminates

  • @dana696danass6
    @dana696danass6 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    i just found out it only takes 500 signatures to complete the first level of religion being offcially recognised in czech republic.....