Similar to Sol Invictus, Hanukkah did not once have the primacy it now has in Rabbinic Jewish rituals it was elevated to this place in the 1800s as a Jewish alternative to Christmas by Jews living in North America.
Thank you so much! I am a baby Christian and have been really torn up about celebrating Christmas, (which has been my favorite time of year all 60+ years of my life). I can't wait to watch your other videos. God bless you. 🙏🙂
So glad to hear! And we do have some extra links in the description of our last video, "The Christmas Season" which is itself about advent. But best way: if you can get to an Orthodox Sunday liturgy and have a chat with the priest and people afterwards!
Thank you so much for the informative video. Every single year it seems like atheist and some Christian groups always feel the need to bring this up. its sad.
Well, Zacharias was from the division of Abijah, that served in the temple in the 8th week from Passover (June/July) and also six months later (December/January). Assuming Elizabeth became pregnant soon after Zacharias returned home, John the Forerunner was born in February-April or in August-October. And Jesus was born six months after that... Meaning that Jesus was born either close to Passover or close to Yom Kippur or the Feast of Tabernacles, or even possibly on the first day of the year (1st September)
This is my understanding. Christ would have been born in September. However I can accept that they chose December 25th as the day to remember his birth 9 months from Pascua. But not that he was actually born on the 25th. Because ultimately it's the remembering and coming together as a whole that is most important.
well, the key to understand it is we have to know when the temple was destroyed. and we have to know which order of the group that served in the temple (based on the rules in 1 chronicles 24:7-18) when it happened. from the information we got from the document we can find that the day the roman destoyed the temple was August 5, 70 a.d. and Jehoiarib was the group that served in the temple. then we can trace it back to when Zacharias lost his voice in luke 1. Zacharias was a part of the 8th group, abijah. based on the counting back the years and the groups that served in the temple. then it can be concluded that he lost his voice in the first week of September when it was his turn to serve i. the temple. and then the day Elisabeth met Theotokos, Elisabeth was in her sixth month of pregnancy. so 6 months after September is march. So march was the month of annunciation, 9 months after the annunciation was the birth of Christ, in December. the early Christians saw the data and concluded that Christmas is December 25. the Christmas was celebrated very early in the church there's a document that states the Christians in Alexandria celebrated Christmas on december. and the document is from around 200 a.d. so it's safe to say that we didn't steal the pagan holiday.
well, the key to understand it is we have to know when the temple was destroyed. and we have to know which order of the group that served in the temple (based on the rules in 1 chronicles 24:7-18) when it happened. from the information we got from the document we can find that the day the roman destoyed the temple was August 5, 70 a.d. and Jehoiarib was the group that served in the temple. then we can trace it back to when Zacharias lost his voice in luke 1. Zacharias was a part of the 8th group, abijah. based on the counting back the years and the groups that served in the temple. then it can be concluded that he lost his voice in the first week of September when it was his turn to serve i. the temple. and then the day Elisabeth met Theotokos, Elisabeth was in her sixth month of pregnancy. so 6 months after September is march. So march was the month of annunciation, 9 months after the annunciation was the birth of Christ, in December. the early Christians saw the data and concluded that Christmas is December 25. the Christmas was celebrated very early in the church there's a document that states the Christians in Alexandria celebrated Christmas on december. and the document is from around 200 a.d. so it's safe to say that we didn't steal the pagan holiday.
One minor point, Pope Gregory revised the calendar in 1582, when there was only 10 days difference. There are currently 13 days difference between the Gregorian and Julian calendars which will become 14 days in 2100, and "Russian Christmas" will slide to 8 January.
Lovely video, however regard Winter Solstice from my research it was celebrated by many different cultures. The countries that celebrated it in the southern hemisphere it would land in June where the earths pole reaches its maximum tilt away from the sun. In northern hemisphere’s like Egypt this happened in December
English is my second language so I dont understand completely. Can you explain what do you mean when you sad that Jesus died on the 25th of march then its apropriate to think that he came to earth on the same date? Do we now by something in the Bible that came to earth on that date? Thank you.
The only problem with trying to base the choice of 25 December on the feast of the Annunciation on 25 March is that the celebration of Christmas on 25 December predates the feast of the Annunciation ,the first evidence of which appears in the 6th century, whereas the celebration of Christmas on 25 December dates to the 4th. The date of the Annunciation was more likely based on the date of Christmas.
well, the key to understand it is we have to know when the temple was destroyed. and we have to know which order of the group that served in the temple (based on the rules in 1 chronicles 24:7-18) when it happened. from the information we got from the document we can find that the day the roman destoyed the temple was August 5, 70 a.d. and Jehoiarib was the group that served in the temple. then we can trace it back to when Zacharias lost his voice in luke 1. Zacharias was a part of the 8th group, abijah. based on the counting back the years and the groups that served in the temple. then it can be concluded that he lost his voice in the first week of September when it was his turn to serve i. the temple. and then the day Elisabeth met Theotokos, Elisabeth was in her sixth month of pregnancy. so 6 months after September is march. So march was the month of annunciation, 9 months after the annunciation was the birth of Christ, in December. the early Christians saw the data and concluded that Christmas is December 25. the Christmas was celebrated very early in the church there's a document that states the Christians in Alexandria celebrated Christmas on december. and the document is from around 200 a.d. so it's safe to say that we didn't steal the pagan holiday.
St Ephrem (4th century) speaks of the Annunciation falling on 10 Nissan /25 March. I think you are referring to council documents that mention the date. These councils did not actually establish the date.
I don't think he was born then but there is much disagreement on the day he was born. I tend to think the original feasts celebrated by the Hebrews and the NT believers as they welcomed in the gentiles (non Jewish converts) are the ones that matter most and hold prophetic importance that are worth memorializing and remembering.
I can't understand why you don't have at least ten times the number of views and subscribers. What are they all watching instead? Seems barmy to me. Come ON guys n gals!
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As a historian, thank you! You explained it in a simple yet perfect manner which isn't too complicated.
Similar to Sol Invictus, Hanukkah did not once have the primacy it now has in Rabbinic Jewish rituals it was elevated to this place in the 1800s as a Jewish alternative to Christmas by Jews living in North America.
Thank you so much! I am a baby Christian and have been really torn up about celebrating Christmas, (which has been my favorite time of year all 60+ years of my life). I can't wait to watch your other videos. God bless you. 🙏🙂
I have to explain Xmas every year 🙄🙄🙄
Thank you for sharing the fullness of Orthodox Christian Anthropolgy.
Good video ☦
The music, the Christmas logo & all of this incredible information … amazing! One of my favourite videos!
I continue to enjoy and appreciate you all's work, my brothers.
Marvelous work!! Not just well said, but well said in style!!
Thank you for explaining it so eloquently and elegantly.
NO!
Great video like always, keep spreading the truth.
Loving this series brother! It’s bringing a whole new level to my Christmas celebration. How can I learn more about the fasts and advents?
So glad to hear! And we do have some extra links in the description of our last video, "The Christmas Season" which is itself about advent. But best way: if you can get to an Orthodox Sunday liturgy and have a chat with the priest and people afterwards!
He just gave you an excellent answer: go to an Orthodox church and talk to a priest and the people..☦💝☦
Oops, i just saw you left this question a year ago...but i still hope you have done what he suggested..🎄🎄
Thank you so much for the informative video. Every single year it seems like atheist and some Christian groups always feel the need to bring this up. its sad.
I have also heard that the date of Christmas can be found through some calculations based on the birth of John the Baptist.
Well, Zacharias was from the division of Abijah, that served in the temple in the 8th week from Passover (June/July) and also six months later (December/January). Assuming Elizabeth became pregnant soon after Zacharias returned home, John the Forerunner was born in February-April or in August-October. And Jesus was born six months after that... Meaning that Jesus was born either close to Passover or close to Yom Kippur or the Feast of Tabernacles, or even possibly on the first day of the year (1st September)
This is my understanding. Christ would have been born in September. However I can accept that they chose December 25th as the day to remember his birth 9 months from Pascua. But not that he was actually born on the 25th. Because ultimately it's the remembering and coming together as a whole that is most important.
well, the key to understand it is we have to know when the temple was destroyed. and we have to know which order of the group that served in the temple (based on the rules in 1 chronicles 24:7-18) when it happened. from the information we got from the document we can find that the day the roman destoyed the temple was August 5, 70 a.d. and Jehoiarib was the group that served in the temple. then we can trace it back to when Zacharias lost his voice in luke 1. Zacharias was a part of the 8th group, abijah. based on the counting back the years and the groups that served in the temple. then it can be concluded that he lost his voice in the first week of September when it was his turn to serve i. the temple. and then the day Elisabeth met Theotokos, Elisabeth was in her sixth month of pregnancy. so 6 months after September is march. So march was the month of annunciation, 9 months after the annunciation was the birth of Christ, in December. the early Christians saw the data and concluded that Christmas is December 25. the Christmas was celebrated very early in the church there's a document that states the Christians in Alexandria celebrated Christmas on december. and the document is from around 200 a.d. so it's safe to say that we didn't steal the pagan holiday.
Thank you. This is absolutely awesome!
Glory to God!
On the early Julian Calendar Saturnia was on December 25, but the Calendar change moved it there
Thank you so much for this. This would help so much when I have to rebut those flimsy claims about Christmas being pagan.
well, the key to understand it is we have to know when the temple was destroyed. and we have to know which order of the group that served in the temple (based on the rules in 1 chronicles 24:7-18) when it happened. from the information we got from the document we can find that the day the roman destoyed the temple was August 5, 70 a.d. and Jehoiarib was the group that served in the temple. then we can trace it back to when Zacharias lost his voice in luke 1. Zacharias was a part of the 8th group, abijah. based on the counting back the years and the groups that served in the temple. then it can be concluded that he lost his voice in the first week of September when it was his turn to serve i. the temple. and then the day Elisabeth met Theotokos, Elisabeth was in her sixth month of pregnancy. so 6 months after September is march. So march was the month of annunciation, 9 months after the annunciation was the birth of Christ, in December. the early Christians saw the data and concluded that Christmas is December 25. the Christmas was celebrated very early in the church there's a document that states the Christians in Alexandria celebrated Christmas on december. and the document is from around 200 a.d. so it's safe to say that we didn't steal the pagan holiday.
One minor point, Pope Gregory revised the calendar in 1582, when there was only 10 days difference. There are currently 13 days difference between the Gregorian and Julian calendars which will become 14 days in 2100, and "Russian Christmas" will slide to 8 January.
I love this channel so much
Lovely video, however regard Winter Solstice from my research it was celebrated by many different cultures. The countries that celebrated it in the southern hemisphere it would land in June where the earths pole reaches its maximum tilt away from the sun.
In northern hemisphere’s like Egypt this happened in December
Great explanation!
English is my second language so I dont understand completely. Can you explain what do you mean when you sad that Jesus died on the 25th of march then its apropriate to think that he came to earth on the same date? Do we now by something in the Bible that came to earth on that date? Thank you.
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The only problem with trying to base the choice of 25 December on the feast of the Annunciation on 25 March is that the celebration of Christmas on 25 December predates the feast of the Annunciation ,the first evidence of which appears in the 6th century, whereas the celebration of Christmas on 25 December dates to the 4th. The date of the Annunciation was more likely based on the date of Christmas.
Still wouldn't be an issue as the Tradition is that people were conceived close to when they died.
Taylor Marshall has a more complete explanation of how it can be derived from the Bible.
th-cam.com/video/b7nuX2F_Cpo/w-d-xo.html
well, the key to understand it is we have to know when the temple was destroyed. and we have to know which order of the group that served in the temple (based on the rules in 1 chronicles 24:7-18) when it happened. from the information we got from the document we can find that the day the roman destoyed the temple was August 5, 70 a.d. and Jehoiarib was the group that served in the temple. then we can trace it back to when Zacharias lost his voice in luke 1. Zacharias was a part of the 8th group, abijah. based on the counting back the years and the groups that served in the temple. then it can be concluded that he lost his voice in the first week of September when it was his turn to serve i. the temple. and then the day Elisabeth met Theotokos, Elisabeth was in her sixth month of pregnancy. so 6 months after September is march. So march was the month of annunciation, 9 months after the annunciation was the birth of Christ, in December. the early Christians saw the data and concluded that Christmas is December 25. the Christmas was celebrated very early in the church there's a document that states the Christians in Alexandria celebrated Christmas on december. and the document is from around 200 a.d. so it's safe to say that we didn't steal the pagan holiday.
St Ephrem (4th century) speaks of the Annunciation falling on 10 Nissan /25 March.
I think you are referring to council documents that mention the date. These councils did not actually establish the date.
The reason for celebrating the sun at the winter solstice is due to the sun returning back to earth. With that brings spring and life.
Nice
Exactly😊💯
I don't think he was born then but there is much disagreement on the day he was born. I tend to think the original feasts celebrated by the Hebrews and the NT believers as they welcomed in the gentiles (non Jewish converts) are the ones that matter most and hold prophetic importance that are worth memorializing and remembering.
I can't understand why you don't have at least ten times the number of views and subscribers. What are they all watching instead? Seems barmy to me. Come ON guys n gals!