I just found this review. It is my favourite review of NWH I have found yet. All the praise and criticisms that the film deserves are clear, concise and well explained.
If we’re being real here, a lot of the drama in these Spider Man movies happen because of somewhat flimsy reasons. Harry in the Rami movies thinks Spidey killed his father based solely on seeing him with the body when for all he knows Spidey may have simply failed to save Norman. Similar thing happens in TASAM 2 where Harry accuses Peter of betraying him at the climax, despite Peter saying he simply needed some time to figure out if there’s a better alternative to immediately giving up his blood. I guess the simple answer for why these Harrys act the way they do is that they’re just misguided and and kinda crazy?
eh in the Raimi movies Harry just needed someone to blame, and spiderman leaving immediately after being spotted is hella suspicious if anything it’s Peters fault. but yeah TASM 2 that was just dumb
@@cheeseburger7788 Yeah, Peter being caught with Norman’s body and then leaving without explaining himself definitely comes across as an admission of guilt. So I can kinda buy that. And if I’m being charitable to TASAM 2 maybe the disease Harry had was really fucking with his mind and that’s what made him so pissed.
It's funny that there's such an emphasis on concepts like magic, the multiverse, and time travel in recent MCU movies. Good writers have trouble using them coherently. And as we all know by now, Marvel is a bit lacking in that department.
I just now noticed that in the Ace Ventura clip, at 16:27 you can see the doctor laughing before it cuts to the head-on shot of him. Nice little thing.
[In response to this part of the video] -->> 22:49 I'm sorry but who does it not?!?!? Just like the other MCU entries, it basically ignores what happens in the whole universe....just like the other ''MCU trash heap'' so honestly I'm not excited. Everything feels so scattered in the MCU, including this movie( Spider-Man N.W.H ).
You deserve more views for your honest and logical reviews. So much effort with editing etc. Maybe cut the video time a little and make a great comeback. Glad you didn’t sell out to the averageness of No way home unlike our friends at Nerdrotic who I do have time for usually
People keep forgetting that part of Dr. Strange's character is that he is always thinking of things on a different time/space level as everyone else playing to far reaching goals and ends and has no issue sacrificing millions of lives to save billions. The movie plays more like Dr. Strange playing dumb to put Spider-Man where he needs to be while also testing his ability to deal with Multiversal threats and issues as this is a threat the world is fast & growingly facing more and more as Magic, Eternals, Celestials, Multiversal beings, Mutants and more are coming. In every instance where Strange loses he is deliberately delaying his next move to allow Peter to make the move he wants him to make. From first stealing the box to how long he waits to leave the Mirror Dimension allowing Peter to steal it again. Strange knows Peter is a genius and knows the Mirror dimension is based on physics and math and deliberately allows Peter enough time to figure it out. The ONLY things that surprise Strange in the entire film is how the Spider-Sense is a motor-reflex allowing him to evade even with a disembodied soul rendering him unconscious and Ned managing to muddle through the basics of portal making without a teacher. (Keep in mind - Ned THINKS he's magic, but people aren't Magic and not magic in the MCU - in the MCU it's a science that everyone can learn.) It just gets lost a little being a Spider-Man movie and not a Dr. Strange movie which plays out more like a fun & exciting Spider-Man dimensional hijynx story the franchise is known and beloved for. But I personally love the idea of Holland's spider-man (who arrested Vulture and tried to arrest Mysterio instead of going for the kill) taking exception to alternate versions of himself killing people personally and trying hard to correct it - and bringing in the previous Spider-man actors to admit to the error of their judgement and want to find a better way.
I'm commenting sole based on what I learn from Dr. Strange in his past movies, not knowing him in comic. In his first movie, even though he finally learn to bear the responsibility for his power, instead of just being a dxxk. Thou in no point that he learn to be real humble (he know and respect there are things beyond his limitation, yet, but he is still supreme), hence he attitube and action in this movie is fully justified. He even pull a "ok I fked up "because of this kid", so just fix them fast". If it is not Peter want to save everyone, the story would end quite fast with Dr. Strange sending everyone back to their death and call it a day, he is after all, Sorcerer Supreme.
The only reason it did as well as it did was because it had the other 2 spidermen. If you forget about the new spiderman then its an okay movie. It is also very dumb. For example, how did Spiderman beat Doctor Strange in his own realm? Math? That makes no sense. I really don't like this movie and I finally found a channel that is blinded by the nostalgia and actually looks at the movie for what it actually is. A decent movie that people think is amazing because of fan service.
This movie wouldn't have made as much money as it did if it wasn't for the nostalgia characters. Just saying! This movie would've made back it's budget, cuz it's Spider-Man, but it sure as hell wouldn't have made as much money as it did if it wasn't for those other characters that we know!
Disney is laughing their ass off at these fanboys.. they’re just stringing together steaming piles of shit with zero effort because they know no matter how bad it is, everyone will glorify it as the greatest film of all time. The MCU is the dumb, hot white girl artist of studios..
@@DreadSeamus I get that but how would she know how she got the chain and from who just some chain laying around must people would of thought it was someone else or something and don't get me wrong it the spider man movie to date
It's been over two years since you did this analysis, but I'm just now seeing it. For me, for all the pre-Deadpool and Wolverine multiverse fan service, this was an awful movie. As a comic fan with knowledge deeper than the shallower than skin deep average MCU viewer has, it took things from the two Spidey comics arcs I hate the most: Civil War's reveal of Peter Parker's identity and One More Day's route to "resolving" that reveal. In the years since this review, the MCU has adopted nearly every controversial or outright hated status quo change from the comics in the last two decades. I recently watched a Bullets and Blockbusters video about the movie Captain America: Civil War was supposed to be. I much prefer the original story adapting the mad 💣 from the comics that it was going to be, but whether it was meant to or not the video more so told me the story of how Kevin Feige wrestled complete control of the MCU away from Ike Perlmutter and deposed him from Disney. IMO the blame for the utter disintegration of the MCU falls squarely on Feige, because since his successful coup d'état, he's been calling all the shots and okaying everything that got made. I can't say what an MCU totally under Perlmutter's control might've been like, but I can say that the results of Perlmutter and Feige working together (however begrudgingly) were the MCU that was most successful. I can't say that I loved the MCU pre-complete Feige controlled because I'm more of a comic book purist and wanted the MCU to be as close to the source material as possible whenever possible, but I was certainly more entertained by it than current day MCU. MCU Thor was always a dude-bro joke compared to his fantasy swords and sorcery comic counterpart. I really wanted to see Donald Blake in Thor movies. Anyway, if you read this as your channel hasn't uploaded anything in more than two years, I appreciated this analysis as well as the ones I just watched for Endgame and Wandavision. Thanks for these videos and hope you have/ had a merry Christmas 🖖🎄
This is a good review. But to comment on your part about Eddie being teleported to the MCU, I think it is because in the Tobey Maguire trilogy the symbiote knows that version of peter. Towards the end of the movie Tobey's Spiderman mentions that he fought an "alien of black goo", and in Venom 1 (I believe) Venom says that all symbiotes either have or can share memories with other symbiotes. Maybe that is why they were thrown into it.
I agree Spiderman No Way Home has a messy plot and characters acting stupid. However the fan service was great. Also, the writers fix Tom Holland Spiderman and get him back to what Spiderman should be in my opinion.
I will just say this.I am not huge Marvel fan( mostly because I was young and briliant but to lazy to read subtitles in movies so live action until post endgame I didnt saw at relise so I dont have that nostalgia) and because of that when I saw movie I had the same questions in my head.So to me this video became best thing I saw today.
@ understandable. That’s good though. I saw your end game video and was like wow this is a good analysis, lemme sub. Only to find out it’s been years since a vid 😂
Also, Doctor Strange in The Multiverse of Madness draws power from the dark dimension by manipulating matter outside of the mirror dimension. You can see him doing this at the start of the movie when fighting that one-eyed octopus monster. This story-breaking detail, tied in with Strange acting like a moron in movies past the first Doctor Strange film, points to Strange actually being impersonated by someone else - my guess is Mephisto.
Thanks! I really want to, but I've been contending with a lot of life changes lately. I have a few things on the pan, so if/when I get time, I'll definitely make more.
Sony's properties both Hero and Villians carried this film. If you watch the parts that only have Tom's Spidey its pretty basic. I mean this dude tried to change the universe to get his friends into a college. Like what .. ??
My first time seeing No Way Home in theaters, I thought it was the best Spiderman movie ever made. However, on the second viewing (at home streaming). I have to strongly agree with you. It’s great the first time, but you start to notice a lot of shit that was a little too convenient to the plot after the hype wears off
I view No Way Home the same as Endgame: fanservice and plot holes lol Strange was also wrong saying all those villains were fated to die. Neither Sandman or Connors died in their films. And if those villains live, are there even more alternate timelines now. One for Osborn surviving, one for Doc Ock surviving, and one for Electro surviving?
I don’t think the other universes also forgets about Peter Parker, this 616 Peter Parker is the subject of the first spell and to fix it he is also the second spell’s subject it doesn’t have anything to do with the other Peters.
Then it doesn’t make sense because the people in the other universes don’t know that 616 Peter Parker is Spider-Man. I mean not only we can assume they don’t even know bout the multiverse, but across the spider verse proves that not every Peter Parker is Spider-Man (w/ Gwen’s universe). Across the spider verse also contradicts the fact that the other universes were affected, since Peter B Parker’s MJ remembers him.
@ you just added to my point tho other universes were not affected at all because they wouldn’t know and in their universe their Spider-Man might not even be Peter Parker
Ah yes, because a worldwide pandemic, a multiverse saga it was forced into, and having comic book origins make it lazy. All the videos on this channel are just baffling stupid.
my guy casually dropped this banger video got no views and dipped damn
always a shame when a small content creator you adore disappears. hope you come back one day lmao
@@YoungLHProductions 😅 eventually
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I just found this review. It is my favourite review of NWH I have found yet. All the praise and criticisms that the film deserves are clear, concise and well explained.
If we’re being real here, a lot of the drama in these Spider Man movies happen because of somewhat flimsy reasons. Harry in the Rami movies thinks Spidey killed his father based solely on seeing him with the body when for all he knows Spidey may have simply failed to save Norman. Similar thing happens in TASAM 2 where Harry accuses Peter of betraying him at the climax, despite Peter saying he simply needed some time to figure out if there’s a better alternative to immediately giving up his blood. I guess the simple answer for why these Harrys act the way they do is that they’re just misguided and and kinda crazy?
eh in the Raimi movies Harry just needed someone to blame, and spiderman leaving immediately after being spotted is hella suspicious if anything it’s Peters fault.
but yeah TASM 2 that was just dumb
@@cheeseburger7788 Yeah, Peter being caught with Norman’s body and then leaving without explaining himself definitely comes across as an admission of guilt. So I can kinda buy that.
And if I’m being charitable to TASAM 2 maybe the disease Harry had was really fucking with his mind and that’s what made him so pissed.
It's funny that there's such an emphasis on concepts like magic, the multiverse, and time travel in recent MCU movies. Good writers have trouble using them coherently. And as we all know by now, Marvel is a bit lacking in that department.
I just now noticed that in the Ace Ventura clip, at 16:27 you can see the doctor laughing before it cuts to the head-on shot of him. Nice little thing.
Just stopping by to say that your videos are excellent, I hope you will come back someday.
Greetings from Brazil 🇧🇷👊🏻
[In response to this part of the video] -->> 22:49
I'm sorry but who does it not?!?!?
Just like the other MCU entries, it basically ignores what happens in the whole universe....just like the other ''MCU trash heap'' so honestly I'm not excited.
Everything feels so scattered in the MCU, including this movie( Spider-Man N.W.H ).
You deserve more views for your honest and logical reviews. So much effort with editing etc.
Maybe cut the video time a little and make a great comeback.
Glad you didn’t sell out to the averageness of No way home unlike our friends at Nerdrotic who I do have time for usually
People keep forgetting that part of Dr. Strange's character is that he is always thinking of things on a different time/space level as everyone else playing to far reaching goals and ends and has no issue sacrificing millions of lives to save billions.
The movie plays more like Dr. Strange playing dumb to put Spider-Man where he needs to be while also testing his ability to deal with Multiversal threats and issues as this is a threat the world is fast & growingly facing more and more as Magic, Eternals, Celestials, Multiversal beings, Mutants and more are coming. In every instance where Strange loses he is deliberately delaying his next move to allow Peter to make the move he wants him to make. From first stealing the box to how long he waits to leave the Mirror Dimension allowing Peter to steal it again. Strange knows Peter is a genius and knows the Mirror dimension is based on physics and math and deliberately allows Peter enough time to figure it out. The ONLY things that surprise Strange in the entire film is how the Spider-Sense is a motor-reflex allowing him to evade even with a disembodied soul rendering him unconscious and Ned managing to muddle through the basics of portal making without a teacher. (Keep in mind - Ned THINKS he's magic, but people aren't Magic and not magic in the MCU - in the MCU it's a science that everyone can learn.)
It just gets lost a little being a Spider-Man movie and not a Dr. Strange movie which plays out more like a fun & exciting Spider-Man dimensional hijynx story the franchise is known and beloved for. But I personally love the idea of Holland's spider-man (who arrested Vulture and tried to arrest Mysterio instead of going for the kill) taking exception to alternate versions of himself killing people personally and trying hard to correct it - and bringing in the previous Spider-man actors to admit to the error of their judgement and want to find a better way.
I'm commenting sole based on what I learn from Dr. Strange in his past movies, not knowing him in comic.
In his first movie, even though he finally learn to bear the responsibility for his power, instead of just being a dxxk. Thou in no point that he learn to be real humble (he know and respect there are things beyond his limitation, yet, but he is still supreme), hence he attitube and action in this movie is fully justified. He even pull a "ok I fked up "because of this kid", so just fix them fast".
If it is not Peter want to save everyone, the story would end quite fast with Dr. Strange sending everyone back to their death and call it a day, he is after all, Sorcerer Supreme.
The only reason it did as well as it did was because it had the other 2 spidermen. If you forget about the new spiderman then its an okay movie. It is also very dumb. For example, how did Spiderman beat Doctor Strange in his own realm? Math? That makes no sense. I really don't like this movie and I finally found a channel that is blinded by the nostalgia and actually looks at the movie for what it actually is. A decent movie that people think is amazing because of fan service.
This movie wouldn't have made as much money as it did if it wasn't for the nostalgia characters. Just saying! This movie would've made back it's budget, cuz it's Spider-Man, but it sure as hell wouldn't have made as much money as it did if it wasn't for those other characters that we know!
Disney is laughing their ass off at these fanboys.. they’re just stringing together steaming piles of shit with zero effort because they know no matter how bad it is, everyone will glorify it as the greatest film of all time. The MCU is the dumb, hot white girl artist of studios..
I agree, and I at the same time I didn’t mind the nostalgia. The dumb moments in the MCU as a whole is what gets me.
The movie is like a 7,5/10
Actually Venom was sharing the knowledge of the Symbiote hive-mind across the multi-verse to Eddie aka Venom(Spider-Man 3)
a seven, five.
Love your videos dude take your time with your break! I’ll be here for your next video
2:13 My guy, this was fucking hilarious.
I don’t like agreeing with your opinion but you are right in every way, so I don’t really get a choice
great video, was expecting your channel to be a lot bigger than it is, definetely underrated
But why was she still wearing the chain peter gave her still if she don't remember him
She likes broken shit
It didn't erase things that happened, it altered memories around items and events.
@@DreadSeamus I get that but how would she know how she got the chain and from who just some chain laying around must people would of thought it was someone else or something and don't get me wrong it the spider man movie to date
MJ just thinks it's her necklace, but she doesn't remember where/how she got it.
It's been over two years since you did this analysis, but I'm just now seeing it.
For me, for all the pre-Deadpool and Wolverine multiverse fan service, this was an awful movie.
As a comic fan with knowledge deeper than the shallower than skin deep average MCU viewer has, it took things from the two Spidey comics arcs I hate the most: Civil War's reveal of Peter Parker's identity and One More Day's route to "resolving" that reveal.
In the years since this review, the MCU has adopted nearly every controversial or outright hated status quo change from the comics in the last two decades.
I recently watched a Bullets and Blockbusters video about the movie Captain America: Civil War was supposed to be.
I much prefer the original story adapting the mad 💣 from the comics that it was going to be, but whether it was meant to or not the video more so told me the story of how Kevin Feige wrestled complete control of the MCU away from Ike Perlmutter and deposed him from Disney.
IMO the blame for the utter disintegration of the MCU falls squarely on Feige, because since his successful coup d'état, he's been calling all the shots and okaying everything that got made.
I can't say what an MCU totally under Perlmutter's control might've been like, but I can say that the results of Perlmutter and Feige working together (however begrudgingly) were the MCU that was most successful.
I can't say that I loved the MCU pre-complete Feige controlled because I'm more of a comic book purist and wanted the MCU to be as close to the source material as possible whenever possible, but I was certainly more entertained by it than current day MCU.
MCU Thor was always a dude-bro joke compared to his fantasy swords and sorcery comic counterpart. I really wanted to see Donald Blake in Thor movies.
Anyway, if you read this as your channel hasn't uploaded anything in more than two years, I appreciated this analysis as well as the ones I just watched for Endgame and Wandavision.
Thanks for these videos and hope you have/ had a merry Christmas 🖖🎄
This is a good review. But to comment on your part about Eddie being teleported to the MCU, I think it is because in the Tobey Maguire trilogy the symbiote knows that version of peter. Towards the end of the movie Tobey's Spiderman mentions that he fought an "alien of black goo", and in Venom 1 (I believe) Venom says that all symbiotes either have or can share memories with other symbiotes. Maybe that is why they were thrown into it.
They’re not a multiversal hive mind. Venom would be near omnipotent. It’s just lazy writing, nothing more.
Finally someone truly gets this movie!
I agree Spiderman No Way Home has a messy plot and characters acting stupid. However the fan service was great. Also, the writers fix Tom Holland Spiderman and get him back to what Spiderman should be in my opinion.
Yeahh I like this channel… Subscribed!!!
I will just say this.I am not huge Marvel fan( mostly because I was young and briliant but to lazy to read subtitles in movies so live action until post endgame I didnt saw at relise so I dont have that nostalgia) and because of that when I saw movie I had the same questions in my head.So to me this video became best thing I saw today.
Young and brilliant, yet this comment makes absolutely no grammatical sense.
@AndrewJones-x6c When you are from Balkan and wrote this half drunk it makes sense
@@ekralj4316 no hate it’s just kinda funny
@AndrewJones-x6c I know.Also Happy New year
@@ekralj4316 happy new year. Thanks for not attacking, and sorry if the first comment seemed disrespectful.
Why haven’t you made any new vids? I just subbed today 😭😭😭
@@thaiweatherby1230 Lots of other stuff going on. I'll be back someday haha
@ understandable. That’s good though.
I saw your end game video and was like wow this is a good analysis, lemme sub. Only to find out it’s been years since a vid 😂
Also, Doctor Strange in The Multiverse of Madness draws power from the dark dimension by manipulating matter outside of the mirror dimension.
You can see him doing this at the start of the movie when fighting that one-eyed octopus monster.
This story-breaking detail, tied in with Strange acting like a moron in movies past the first Doctor Strange film, points to Strange actually being impersonated by someone else - my guess is Mephisto.
When specifically does he do this?
He does like 15 different spells in that fight, lmao.
@@bro-be3bd ik its a small detail, but it retcons the entire plot of the first doctor strange movie
@@bro-be3bd I only noticed this detail after seeing the opening scene for like the 7th time through youtube vids
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Bro are you gonna make more videos? Your videos are dope, lots of good insights
Thanks! I really want to, but I've been contending with a lot of life changes lately. I have a few things on the pan, so if/when I get time, I'll definitely make more.
Well.. you’re half right, it is lazy. “Brilliant” is probably the last word I would use to describe any MCU movie
Hey, will you ever make videos again?
Great title, man.
Yo the title of this video was LITERALLY my opinion of the film
Sony's properties both Hero and Villians carried this film. If you watch the parts that only have Tom's Spidey its pretty basic. I mean this dude tried to change the universe to get his friends into a college. Like what .. ??
My first time seeing No Way Home in theaters, I thought it was the best Spiderman movie ever made. However, on the second viewing (at home streaming). I have to strongly agree with you. It’s great the first time, but you start to notice a lot of shit that was a little too convenient to the plot after the hype wears off
HiTop may wanna take notes on this shit.
I view No Way Home the same as Endgame: fanservice and plot holes lol
Strange was also wrong saying all those villains were fated to die. Neither Sandman or Connors died in their films. And if those villains live, are there even more alternate timelines now. One for Osborn surviving, one for Doc Ock surviving, and one for Electro surviving?
0:07 OMFG “IN THE ARMY NOW” God Bless Pauly Shore.
Came here to comment that you have swag, will come back to this vid and watch it fully just saying swag
I don’t think the other universes also forgets about Peter Parker, this 616 Peter Parker is the subject of the first spell and to fix it he is also the second spell’s subject it doesn’t have anything to do with the other Peters.
Then it doesn’t make sense because the people in the other universes don’t know that 616 Peter Parker is Spider-Man. I mean not only we can assume they don’t even know bout the multiverse, but across the spider verse proves that not every Peter Parker is Spider-Man (w/ Gwen’s universe).
Across the spider verse also contradicts the fact that the other universes were affected, since Peter B Parker’s MJ remembers him.
@ you just added to my point tho other universes were not affected at all because they wouldn’t know and in their universe their Spider-Man might not even be Peter Parker
I wholeheartedly agree with you
Electro probably overheard gwen and Eddie new cos of venoms hive mind
Wakanda forever next? Please? :)
Hopefully youll reply but im fine either way if not--I reckon that you like No Way Home more than Endgame? 😂
@@buenvidanadz1969 Yeah haha
@@CinemaSleuthcome back….
Yup
Come back brother
I never liked this movie because it's just overhyped 😢
The MCU is dying lol
lmao
Ah yes, because a worldwide pandemic, a multiverse saga it was forced into, and having comic book origins make it lazy. All the videos on this channel are just baffling stupid.
You think anyone can tell aunt May what to do?
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Chief please do more