Always get as close as you can (with out hitting anything of course) before you alley dock your trailer. Otherwise you will lose your spot to someone else.
SHORT STORY-When I first started, I spent 45 minutes trying to back into a dock, stressed, sweating, crying, the whole deal...A driver with a stretched out Pete, pulled up and backed in as smooth as butter...I watched him closely...I learned a valuable lesson that day, he went SLOW!!! The slower you go, the easier it is. 20 years later, I have never forgot! This video is a PERFECT tutorial!!
Remember that the farther your tandems are back the less turning radius you have. So when you have to slide your tandems all the way back at the shipper, the turning radius is much larger. The trailer is going to react differently in every position. I see a lot of newer drivers over steering because they don't understand this. Remember that the slower you go, the better. When you have people waiting for you, they can just wait. We all started somewhere. I was fortunate enough to have a job backing in boats in as a kid. If you have any specific questions. Let me know. Good Luck and be safe trucker. 🙏
Backing is always different, one day you'll do great! Another day you may have problems, just remember I've talked to many truckers we all have good and bad days, just dont hit another truck and you will do fine,
@@SuperPoshposh, that's the way I have trip planned when I was new. My plan was always to shut down for the night in a truck stop first. When there's no available spaces that I was comfortable backing into, my plan B was always a rest area within an hour away. Anyone new to trucking, there will be truckers laughing at you back up. Just remember to take your time by getting out and look. If you don't and hit something, those same truckers will be laughing at you more. Think about it;)
THAT'S RIGHT BUT UNFORTUNATELY LOTS OF GUYS GIVING OTHER DRIVERS A HARD TIME BECAUSE THEY R TOO LAZY TO CENTER AND ALIGN THEIR TRUCKS . SO ALL ONE CAN DO IS TO PARK AS STUPID AS THEY ALREADY. DID. SAD
I learned something nice from another video I would like to share......For the set up, make sure you pull 3 spaces past your desired space before you turn right and back left and that will set you up perfectly at a 45 degree type ally dock
Nice video. Good comparison of the two trucks, first one not able to do it right due to setup and second one setting up right and putting it in the hole. Also glad to see/hear you not bashing the first driver for not being able to do it, just pointing out his mistake. Good and productive comments! Well done.
wwwnetryder perfection in deed. I love it. I feel like most teachers and instructors chastise students and make them feel even more inadequate for not being able to complete a task. It's like negative (self talk) on top of negative ( another's treatment). It makes the student more nervous and defeats the purpose of teaching due to belittling. Thank you for showing there are positive and understanding people in the world
@@nicoleraheem1195 I quit my first time out on the road...my trainer yelled at me for grinding a gear...i hollered back at him and at the consignee I was done....went back got a local job and learned on my own....there is a way to teach someone and a fine line between teaching someone and being an ego driven super trucker asshole
@@macknumber9 congrats to you for leaving and succeeding elsewhere. And you're absolutely right. There's a fine line between Teaching and being an asswipe.
This video helps a lot, I'm going into the trucking field and that's one of my biggest fears is alley docking. Now that I know a few tips, it doesn't make me, as nervous lol
Jacob Smith Don’t be nervous the more you do it the better you get at it as long as you don’t hit anything you’ll be fine and don’t forget always get out and look (goal)
And.... on top of that just finishing driving ALL day and it's the only spot available.....and the line is faded.....and it's dark....... and a line of trucks are waiting. Just love it haha.
I have been watching videos for 2 weeks, also in AZ training, and FINALLY, I get it!! I cant wait until my next training session to try your methods. Thank you.
dont listen to anybody, do it how you want. when you start listening to very experienced drivers you will crash. you have to drive to the level of experience you have. if you arent sure get off your ass and look.
I always practise my setups and maneuvers often. I been driving for a year and half and want to be confident at shippers etc. At times i practise at the shippers too, especially when its not busy etc. I go slow and understand my angles.
Thank you brother, this is the type of video we look forward to viewing. It's the proper way to explain the backing up of a truck, when the perspective is from the front view, showing the entire truck, and showing how the front wheels turn.
Thank you for taking the time recording and uploading on TH-cam and helping new drivers in that way. I personally truly appreciate it thank you God bless you brother.
practice make's perfect but we still all make mistake's wer'e human!!! never give up fall get up and try again it take's time!!! good video thank's for sharing!!!!
He passed his test clown. Awesome i used to be able to spell truck driver now i r one. Read up on what happened in Humboldt Saskatchewan a few years ago and if you feel the same way about your TH-cam trained buddy do us all here a favor here in Canada and you and the rest of the drivers who got their license in a box of cracker jacks stay on that side of the border ok. We got enough here already.
@@michael-ianmcinnes5224 you sound awfully dramatic, emotional and bitter about something... You must be a female, because you exude a lot of femininity.
and yes great commentary. When I first started driving (pretty recently, actually) I always left myself very minimal room to swing my tractor back around to get in the hole. I've learned that set up is the main factor as far as how easy it'll be to back into a spot.
Hi Daniel Can I have you in private need your email just sharing info I am considering to make it my future profession as I love trucking so much ... Thanks in advance
Hi Daniel it’s not that hard like the guy talking said start by keeping your trailer wheels close to the truck that you are going to park beside the next thing you can do is pull the hand valve to stop the wheels from moving and jack knife the trailer until it is close to getting straight and then release the hand valve and follow it.try it and good luck with trucking. I started in 1960 and I quit in 2013 .there is so many tricks and tips that you new guys just don’t get to see and hear about because all us old guys are not out there with you . Like I said good luck and keep the shiny side up.
Marco Garza No matter how long a person has been doing tractor trailering You will always do something a new driver would best thing is to get out and look so you don’t hit need nothing
You have to be super patient. Sometimes you will do several pull ups before you get it in there safely. If you have rough clutch you will finish exausted 😁 I done this hundreds of time in all scenarios. Been in this game 7 years.
Best best video I found with the whole trailer AND showing the front steers moving for adjustments. Good explanation too, short, simple...thank you bro...from a rookie. God willing I will pass my test
@@emed1977 I am 10 years into it and on occasion i question backing into a spot. But just get out and look as many times you need too. And let the other trucks simply wait. Practice on empty lots and in empty spots. I did that the first 6 month's. Until i felt really comfortable. Okay be safe and keep rolling.
@@user-lz7qf9tb2t luckily I landed a regional job where I have to back up at least 4 times a day so I feel myself learning how the trailer is going to react. I feel like I’m going to be learning this stuff for years to come. The hardest part is sometimes the spots are super tight and the yard jockeys zoom around you because they have no patience.
Thanks, for filming that. That was a good example of how to get the box in the hole. That Driver did a great job. I was rooting for the green truck too. Like you said, they were to far away on their setup.
Watching this video really helps. You really pointed out all the problems that I was having. Thanks so much for sharing your video. It really helped me.
no problem, I am ☺ happy that you can take away from this video. These are the little things that they didn't tell me.. Be safe keep rolling and may you have; good weather, safe roads and swift return.
Very helpful video! I have been having trouble with the set up and now I got it. Just started hauling containers from the train yard and this will help me a lot! Thanks
Great video ! You are better than my CR ENGLAND INSTRUCTORS that I had in Waxahachie, TX. There is Lazy admin Chris what a joke they have 90% failing rate at this school
Glad you posted this. My schooling told me I need to be “ a car length away” when starting the set up. But I’ve noticed it just doesn’t work out being that far away. Especially in truck stops.
For tight truck stops it's best to be in the middle and well forward. With that come close and swing out method it's very hard to time it right. But if start in the middle and well forward then you aim as you come back.
Thanks For This Video Being A New Driver Myself It Gave Me The Feedback Needed By Seeing Two Different Backings From Two Different Drivers. People On The Outside Looking In Don’t Realize How Hard Alley Docking Really Is For A New Comer VS An Experienced Driver. I Really Admire You Not Bashing The 1st Driver Cause That Simply Could Of Been Myself. I Respect The 1st Driver For Realizing His Mistake And Moving Along For Another To Go Instead Of Holding Him And Everyone’s Tired. #GreatVideo
this is a little helpful! i just got my CDL. havent got a job yet and my fears are parking it 90 degree cuz i havent learned it and this helps. i can do 45.
This is the best video on alley docking that I've seen on TH-cam. Thanks because this is the one backing maneuver I'm having issues on. Plus my trainer is kind of an asshole on this so thanks.
It took him so long to do it, I'm glad he didn't run out of fuel doing that. To park it every time... - 2-3 feet from the front of the row of trucks - when your drives pass the opening you want to backup into turn hard right and place your cab facing "11" on the clock ("12" is direction you will be facing once parked) - as soon as you face "11" turn hard left and face "9" and drive forward for about 12 feet. Stop. - turn wheels all the way right and start backing. your trailer will go right where you want it. The moment back of your cab is close to the trailer (your jacked) start turning left to straighten your trailer and cab.
During my 29 years as a trailer driver, approximately 95% of my day was composed of backing into tight places. I didn't attend a tractor-trailer training school (I'm not knocking TTT schools at all), but was taught one on one by a friend of mine for about 3 months. I then took my road test, passed it the first time and the rest of my career was comprised of just learning from experience and an occasional tip from a veteran driver. I even learned how to back blind side into a tight spot the first shot by using my right side spot mirror until I lost site of my tandems and then looking out my driver's side mirror at the angle of my trailer as compared to my tractor and once I got straight enough to see the other side of my trailer, using both my mirrors...worked every time.
That first truck is a major problem that I’ve been having because that’s how I was trained to do it and I’ve been wondering how to fix it and now I know how thank you
Great video it reminds me of the HEB warehouse in Houston that is a pain in the butt I've seen seasoned drivers struggle especially with the long nose petes..
As a new driver just about to get my CDL I find it extremely perplexing how drivers manage to get a 53 footer into such tight spots. I look forward to gaining the skills one day hopefully. I really hope I find some mentorship through willing & experienced truckers to take me under their wing and give me the guidance. 🙏 hopefully I will
I just started driving just got out of training this video is awesome it has helped me a lot I wish I could find a video that you took from inside the cab I'd like to see that one too I didn't get a whole lot of this kind of Backing ln my training I'm watching a lot of videos this is one of the best thank you
When docking/parking: if your center for the tandem is all the forward you will be too close to the row of trucks to make your initial turn for your setup. Someone's truck is going to lose a front cap. Whether your tandem is all the way forward or all the way back 4-6 feet is the lay-off distance from the row of trucks before your initial turn. That 4-6 feet will compensate for truck model variations and tandem length. What it will not do is compensate for a truck that is parked nose cap 3-6 feet passed the yellow line...watch for that. Next; techniques vary by company, experience, vehicle type and ones own taste for bravado or backing. Before your initial turn go passed your target space set the center of your drive axles to the far edge of the next space passed it. Some prefer the target space, some prefer a space and a half passed the target space. I prefer one space passed to the far edge. Hit that Mark and turn hard sharp right until your truck nose is straight with the row of trucks on the other side. Stop! Do not do a continuous motion, stop the wheels. 22.5 in tires require 10 feet of linear roll-out distance to get one foot of turn, that's one revolution. If you do not stop those wheels and just conveniently turn your wheels, while it's rolling you will over shoot it due to wheel roll. Next; after your sharp right turn line up turn hard to the left and ease forward until your trailer lines up with your cab in the mirrors, both sides. You will see your target space behind you and a hard 90 degree "jacked" turn will not be required. If you prefer hard 90 degree turns with your drives cut 90 degrees and drives wheels under the apron that's up to you. That will be needed when the far row of trucks on the other side is too close. A good many of the parking space as are just that...way too tight. Schools don't cover that, they give a set directive to dock and you do it that way. Your load assignments will dictate differently to the various shippers and consignee's. Some of these places are over 60 years old and designed for 40-45 ft trailers with cabovers or pickups. Even a long nose cab today can do it with a 40-45 ft trailer. 53ft trailers are a 60's idea put forth in the 70's and early 80's. It's not going to get any better before it gets much worse. Trucking companies are more numerous and three times the size they were 40 years. Crete has over 6000 trucks, now. JB hunt is three times its size from 30 years ago. More owner operators now. Space is a limited commodity so is illegal parking. 40 years ago would have made sense for citations, now, it's customary due to the fact there no choices left for the truck driver...we dont have the space available any longer to meet the current demand and it's growing still. Practice parking, practice often...you will need it.
YES you are absolutely correct. That was omitted because beginner's might get confused. But you are right on the money. Keep rolling and may the roads be fair and the weather clear and be safe out their.
"22.5 in tires require 10 feet of linear roll-out distance to get one foot of turn, that's one revolution. If you do not stop those wheels and just conveniently turn your wheels, while it's rolling you will over shoot it due to wheel roll." - What the fuck?
Practicing this very maneuver and not doing so well. In my state we test for our CDL-A, which for me was parallel parking and offsetting with a final drive test. Then after passing, we have further tasks as part of our progression within the company. Very frustrating, but this video was very helpful! Thank you!
Backing is my nightmare as well...I. just got my cdl. I have failed to get a job twice due to backing...I have a third drive test for a job and I trust this video helps me. thanks
Great for trailer parking. unlike the one before, his tractor almost stuck to him in front. I am also one of those who dream of driving a trailer in another country. well done sir.
You are absolutely correct, when you pull in you need to set the trailer putting the corner of the trailer close to the truck next to the parking spot. Do an S turn to set the trailer to back it up. Good video.
when you're alley docking a truck turn your wheel a turn and a half then start backing u. wait until the trailer is at about a 30-40 degree angle then just chase it. I had a full sized semi sleeper with a 53' trailer never could alley dock but my friend told me to turn the wheel a turn and a half before I started moving and it worked every time. never missed an alley dock
Thank you for the video and explaining so well. Now I understand a bit better,I'm sure I'll mess up anyways haha but I feel more comfortable now that I watched this video.
Funny thing is I am watching this video while I. Am in school waiting to do my maneuvers when it’s my turn ,thanks for the tip,new driver is coming ,get out the way pump pump 💪🏿
wwwnetryder that was great step by step instructions. Especially when you used your finger to indicate where you wanted the cab to align up at. Perfect brother. Thank you for posting it.
Thank you for explaining brother. It’s my first day working by myself now my trainer was a douche that just rushed me all the time. I learned more from youtube than from him lol
Good video I like how you explain it I was thinking of driving to a local truck stop where I live to see how the truckers back in so I can get an idea on 90 degree and 45 degree angle also making left and right turns in the city how not cause an accident
6 inches or a foot the closer the better lmao... in this parking lot the first driver did a much better job even though he gave up. use the space you have.
I'm currently attending OFTC in Dublin, Ga. While practicing alley docking. I tried to set up close and park as you stated. Our instructors won't let us do it that way. They make us stay at least 8 feet away for the alley dock when we set up. It doesn't make any sense to me. They don't even discuss a setup prior to practicing it. We as a class refer to the internet for answers. If you ask a question they act like they don't won't to answer it and treat you like you're dumb. thanks for posting the video as I plan on alley docking like you have demonstrated when I get my CDL.
Same story here at MTC in St. Louis, MO. Each instructor teaches the maneuvers differently, and if you don't do it their way they like to scream at you. At this point I'd rather they all just leave the yard and leave me to it. I learn more from trial and error and youtube at this point.
Perfect explanation . Truck turns with the back tire as the center of the circle. For turn and reverse, for smaller angles, turn the same way as car, for larger ratio , turn the steering wheel in opposite direction keeping the trailer not moving backwards much, but changing direction. NB : Broken english mine
Just took my test in Iowa, straightline...passed, offset...passed, alley dock...failed, and it's because I wasn't close to the hole at all, thanks for the video, I take it again in 3 weeks...very stressful.
I'm a fresh driver. I drive intermodal so I don't have to back up a lot but I practice on railyards as much as I can. Few months ago I hit another truck on a truck stop just because I didn't have enough space in the front . luckily the impact was very light. Thanks for helping video. Be safe.
SHORT STORY-When I first started, I spent 45 minutes trying to back into a dock, stressed, sweating, crying, the whole deal...A driver with a stretched out Pete, pulled up and backed in as smooth as butter...I watched him closely...I learned a valuable lesson that day, he went SLOW!!!
The slower you go, the easier it is. 20 years later, I have never forgot!
This video is a PERFECT tutorial!!
I hate backing 😢
@JeraHunt How long have you been trucking? I may be able to help you out with that.
A year
@@JeraHunt Are you in a van or flatbed?
Remember that the farther your tandems are back the less turning radius you have.
So when you have to slide your tandems all the way back at the shipper, the turning radius is much larger. The trailer is going to react differently in every position. I see a lot of newer drivers over steering because they don't understand this. Remember that the slower you go, the better. When you have people waiting for you, they can just wait. We all started somewhere. I was fortunate enough to have a job backing in boats in as a kid. If you have any specific questions. Let me know. Good Luck and be safe trucker. 🙏
Backing is always different, one day you'll do great! Another day you may have problems, just remember I've talked to many truckers we all have good and bad days, just dont hit another truck and you will do fine,
As long as I have a good day backing up on test day I'll be ok.
You are 💯% correct ✔️
I one day my backing is superb ✔️ next day I struggle
Yes the key is as long as you don't hit anything then you are fine 🦸
When you are a new driver avoid Gas stations and look for rest area. 👀
So true, i have days when I can back in really easy then there's days I have a heck of a time backing in
@@SuperPoshposh, that's the way I have trip planned when I was new. My plan was always to shut down for the night in a truck stop first. When there's no available spaces that I was comfortable backing into, my plan B was always a rest area within an hour away.
Anyone new to trucking, there will be truckers laughing at you back up. Just remember to take your time by getting out and look. If you don't and hit something, those same truckers will be laughing at you more. Think about it;)
*Shout out to all my new truck drivers!!* ✌️😎 🚚 🚛
Good lookin💪
Facts 🤙🏾
Yeah but have you thought about why the other license holders left?
What’s up
Got my road test in 2 weeks!
a beginners nightmare! Very well explained!
That’s me.....lol
That’s definitely me I am an OTR driver and I have nightmares about docking
@@phantasianolan9673 did you get better
@@dontejohnson863 yea I was overturning the wheel at first
@@phantasianolan9673 I was practicing today and wasn’t easy
It's all about the setup! Setup good and backing is a snap
easytopleez33 yep
THAT'S RIGHT BUT UNFORTUNATELY LOTS OF GUYS GIVING OTHER DRIVERS A HARD TIME BECAUSE THEY R TOO LAZY TO CENTER AND ALIGN THEIR TRUCKS . SO ALL ONE CAN DO IS TO PARK AS STUPID AS THEY ALREADY. DID. SAD
I learned something nice from another video I would like to share......For the set up, make sure you pull 3 spaces past your desired space before you turn right and back left and that will set you up perfectly at a 45 degree type ally dock
Nice video. Good comparison of the two trucks, first one not able to do it right due to setup and second one setting up right and putting it in the hole. Also glad to see/hear you not bashing the first driver for not being able to do it, just pointing out his mistake. Good and productive comments! Well done.
hey there driver Charles. thanks for comment not here to bash anyone, only trying to help. thanks for the comment, I really appreciate it
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wwwnetryder perfection in deed. I love it. I feel like most teachers and instructors chastise students and make them feel even more inadequate for not being able to complete a task. It's like negative (self talk) on top of negative ( another's treatment). It makes the student more nervous and defeats the purpose of teaching due to belittling. Thank you for showing there are positive and understanding people in the world
@@nicoleraheem1195 I quit my first time out on the road...my trainer yelled at me for grinding a gear...i hollered back at him and at the consignee I was done....went back got a local job and learned on my own....there is a way to teach someone and a fine line between teaching someone and being an ego driven super trucker asshole
@@macknumber9 congrats to you for leaving and succeeding elsewhere.
And you're absolutely right.
There's a fine line between Teaching and being an asswipe.
This video helps a lot, I'm going into the trucking field and that's one of my biggest fears is alley docking. Now that I know a few tips, it doesn't make me, as nervous lol
Jacob Smith Don’t be nervous the more you do it the better you get at it as long as you don’t hit anything you’ll be fine and don’t forget always get out and look (goal)
Thanks, I 'm just getting back into trucking, and struggled all day yesterday, especially at the end when I was tired.
How convenient. The do’s and don’t’s in backing up a semi, covered in successive fashion, and under ten minutes too. Lesson learned here 👍🏻
Don't u just love the very tight backing at shippers,and all the drivers are watching. ..no pressure right!
LOL
Reminds me of a boat launch. Always great entertainment.
And.... on top of that just finishing driving ALL day and it's the only spot available.....and the line is faded.....and it's dark....... and a line of trucks are waiting. Just love it haha.
And... You haven't even driven a truck before and you're just thinking about starting a truck driving career and you read these comments 😭😭😭
You have to not give a shit about all those other drivers...dont have an ego....That's the real challenge...
I have been watching videos for 2 weeks, also in AZ training, and FINALLY, I get it!! I cant wait until my next training session to try your methods. Thank you.
dont listen to anybody, do it how you want. when you start listening to very experienced drivers you will crash. you have to drive to the level of experience you have. if you arent sure get off your ass and look.
I always practise my setups and maneuvers often. I been driving for a year and half and want to be confident at shippers etc. At times i practise at the shippers too, especially when its not busy etc. I go slow and understand my angles.
Nice, you probably have it down by now. That's exactly what I used to do when I started. Cudos brother, be safe and keep on rolling.
Right I’m so glad this video help me out a lot
Thank you brother, this is the type of video we look forward to viewing. It's the proper way to explain the backing up of a truck, when the perspective is from the front view, showing the entire truck, and showing how the front wheels turn.
Thank you for taking the time recording and uploading on TH-cam and helping new drivers in that way. I personally truly appreciate it thank you God bless you brother.
practice make's perfect but we still all make mistake's wer'e human!!! never give up fall get up and try again it take's time!!! good video thank's for sharing!!!!
One of the best explanatory videos about semi truck docking,very raw with proof
Thanks for helping me to pass my CDL driving test. I never went to school. TH-cam is my best teacher.
If youtube's your only teacher let me know where you go so I can leave before you get there sheesh.
@@michael-ianmcinnes5224 he said he passed his test clown.
@@josephdaley1720 7 years ago and I can't believe I'm
He passed his test clown. Awesome i used to be able to spell truck driver now i r one. Read up on what happened in Humboldt Saskatchewan a few years ago and if you feel the same way about your TH-cam trained buddy do us all here a favor here in Canada and you and the rest of the drivers who got their license in a box of cracker jacks stay on that side of the border ok. We got enough here already.
@@michael-ianmcinnes5224 you sound awfully dramatic, emotional and bitter about something... You must be a female, because you exude a lot of femininity.
Very good tips. Future driver myself learning the ropes now. Much appreciated driver!
one of the best backup instructional video on TH-cam. Thanks .
and yes great commentary. When I first started driving (pretty recently, actually) I always left myself very minimal room to swing my tractor back around to get in the hole. I've learned that set up is the main factor as far as how easy it'll be to back into a spot.
Good tip for new truck drivers, just like me.
no worries angel you just gotta keep practicing and the more you do it the easier it will become
Nice video it also helps me ,I'm just practicing
Hi Daniel Can I have you in private need your email just sharing info I am considering to make it my future profession as I love trucking so much ... Thanks in advance
Not so new now huh, 5years in ? I just did my physical and drug screen for my first trucking job yesterday.
Hi Daniel it’s not that hard like the guy talking said start by keeping your trailer wheels close to the truck that you are going to park beside the next thing you can do is pull the hand valve to stop the wheels from moving and jack knife the trailer until it is close to getting straight and then release the hand valve and follow it.try it and good luck with trucking. I started in 1960 and I quit in 2013 .there is so many tricks and tips that you new guys just don’t get to see and hear about because all us old guys are not out there with you . Like I said good luck and keep the shiny side up.
Thank all of y'all for giving tips to all the new drivers!
Marco Garza No matter how long a person has been doing tractor trailering You will always do something a new driver would best thing is to get out and look so you don’t hit need nothing
Thank the lord for this video I’ve had my CDL for about a month and I’ve been doing it wrong. Saw this video and got it on my first shot no pull-ups
You have to be super patient.
Sometimes you will do several pull ups before you get it in there safely.
If you have rough clutch you will finish exausted 😁
I done this hundreds of time in all scenarios. Been in this game 7 years.
Thank you... that's the way I learn when I get my CDL.
You give us a good tips...👍
Best best video I found with the whole trailer AND showing the front steers moving for adjustments. Good explanation too, short, simple...thank you bro...from a rookie. God willing I will pass my test
Thanks for the tips really helps me out. I’m a new driver and always have problems backing up my dry van
I had this same scenario as part of my road test. It’s all about the set up. I’m glad I set up nicely
Good Video! I'm a newbie I hope no one records me when I'm parking 🤣😜
I will be wearing a ski 😷 mask. lol
Hopefully you have it by now, I’m less than one month out by myself, and it’s nerve-racking every time.
@@emed1977 I’m 5 months in and still not completely comfortable
@@emed1977 I am 10 years into it and on occasion i question backing into a spot. But just get out and look as many times you need too. And let the other trucks simply wait. Practice on empty lots and in empty spots. I did that the first 6 month's. Until i felt really comfortable.
Okay be safe and keep rolling.
@@user-lz7qf9tb2t luckily I landed a regional job where I have to back up at least 4 times a day so I feel myself learning how the trailer is going to react. I feel like I’m going to be learning this stuff for years to come. The hardest part is sometimes the spots are super tight and the yard jockeys zoom around you because they have no patience.
Thanks for posting this video and for your professionalism. I'm sure it will help a lot of drivers.
That was a beautiful maneuver. Thank you so much for posting. Very informative.
This is the best teaching video of this type I've seen on TH-cam. You do a good job.
thanks Tony
Thanks, for filming that. That was a good example of how to get the box in the hole. That Driver did a great job. I was rooting for the green truck too. Like you said, they were to far away on their setup.
Watching this video really helps. You really pointed out all the problems that I was having. Thanks so much for sharing your video. It really helped me.
So are you a better driver now? I'm new an trying parking is my nightmare
Very nice lesson. I am currently in Tractor Trailer school and will soon be learning on the actual rigs.
Am a new truck driver and so grateful for the above backing skills shown,
no problem, I am ☺ happy that you can take away from this video. These are the little things that they didn't tell me.. Be safe keep rolling and may you have; good weather, safe roads and swift return.
Very helpful video! I have been having trouble with the set up and now I got it. Just started hauling containers from the train yard and this will help me a lot! Thanks
nice. good luck
Great video ! You are better than my CR ENGLAND INSTRUCTORS that I had in Waxahachie, TX. There is Lazy admin Chris what a joke they have 90% failing rate at this school
Excellent video. Will definitely be watching your other ones. I'm currently in driving school and struggling with backing. Thank you
same here Theresa im having trouble backing and failed my test on first try wish i would of seen this video before testing
Me too. Its alot harder than it looks
But....it can be done
Good job comparing the two trucks of backing up now I understand. Thanks 😉
Glad you posted this. My schooling told me I need to be “ a car length away” when starting the set up.
But I’ve noticed it just doesn’t work out being that far away. Especially in truck stops.
For tight truck stops it's best to be in the middle and well forward. With that come close and swing out method it's very hard to time it right. But if start in the middle and well forward then you aim as you come back.
Thanks For This Video Being A New Driver Myself It Gave Me The Feedback Needed By Seeing Two Different Backings From Two Different Drivers. People On The Outside Looking In Don’t Realize How Hard Alley Docking Really Is For A New Comer VS An Experienced Driver. I Really Admire You Not Bashing The 1st Driver Cause That Simply Could Of Been Myself. I Respect The 1st Driver For Realizing His Mistake And Moving Along For Another To Go Instead Of Holding Him And Everyone’s Tired. #GreatVideo
I see what you meant where the box should be when I saw what the Celadon driver was doing. Great pointers for anyone. 👍
Thanks for a good advice I am going to get my CDL, just watched this Video the person is talking on the video give best advice.
this is a little helpful! i just got my CDL. havent got a job yet and my fears are parking it 90 degree cuz i havent learned it and this helps. i can do 45.
this video deserve a superlike! Great lesson!
you now what I have been truck driving for two years and will wach safety video and do the goal you can never be two safe grate video
This is the best video on alley docking that I've seen on TH-cam. Thanks because this is the one backing maneuver I'm having issues on. Plus my trainer is kind of an asshole on this so thanks.
It took him so long to do it, I'm glad he didn't run out of fuel doing that. To park it every time...
- 2-3 feet from the front of the row of trucks
- when your drives pass the opening you want to backup into turn hard right and place your cab facing "11" on the clock ("12" is direction you will be facing once parked)
- as soon as you face "11" turn hard left and face "9" and drive forward for about 12 feet. Stop.
- turn wheels all the way right and start backing. your trailer will go right where you want it. The moment back of your cab is close to the trailer (your jacked) start turning left to straighten your trailer and cab.
During my 29 years as a trailer driver, approximately 95% of my day was composed of backing into tight places. I didn't attend a tractor-trailer training school (I'm not knocking TTT schools at all), but was taught one on one by a friend of mine for about 3 months. I then took my road test, passed it the first time and the rest of my career was comprised of just learning from experience and an occasional tip from a veteran driver. I even learned how to back blind side into a tight spot the first shot by using my right side spot mirror until I lost site of my tandems and then looking out my driver's side mirror at the angle of my trailer as compared to my tractor and once I got straight enough to see the other side of my trailer, using both my mirrors...worked every time.
jd450lh nice JD
That first truck is a major problem that I’ve been having because that’s how I was trained to do it and I’ve been wondering how to fix it and now I know how thank you
Great video and your explanation.
Easy understand when you point it with you finger.
just starting at a truck repair place with a small yard. this is very helpful
Great video it reminds me of the HEB warehouse in Houston that is a pain in the butt I've seen seasoned drivers struggle especially with the long nose petes..
This was awesome to watch!! 😎😎 2 perfect examples...why to do and what *NOT* to do.
As a new driver just about to get my CDL I find it extremely perplexing how drivers manage to get a 53 footer into such tight spots. I look forward to gaining the skills one day hopefully. I really hope I find some mentorship through willing & experienced truckers to take me under their wing and give me the guidance. 🙏 hopefully I will
Thank you. I'm just getting back into driving this helped me alot
thank so much I have been trying to come up with a technique to learn how to do this to no avail thank you for helping me learn the alley.
2nd truck came in like a BOSS!! 😎
And professionally.
Thanks!
How long have you been driving
That was beautiful by Celadon and very professionally!
I just started driving just got out of training this video is awesome it has helped me a lot I wish I could find a video that you took from inside the cab I'd like to see that one too I didn't get a whole lot of this kind of Backing ln my training I'm watching a lot of videos this is one of the best thank you
thanks Ralph. I haven't made it but I will make one from inside the cab.
When docking/parking: if your center for the tandem is all the forward you will be too close to the row of trucks to make your initial turn for your setup. Someone's truck is going to lose a front cap. Whether your tandem is all the way forward or all the way back 4-6 feet is the lay-off distance from the row of trucks before your initial turn. That 4-6 feet will compensate for truck model variations and tandem length. What it will not do is compensate for a truck that is parked nose cap 3-6 feet passed the yellow line...watch for that. Next; techniques vary by company, experience, vehicle type and ones own taste for bravado or backing. Before your initial turn go passed your target space set the center of your drive axles to the far edge of the next space passed it. Some prefer the target space, some prefer a space and a half passed the target space. I prefer one space passed to the far edge. Hit that Mark and turn hard sharp right until your truck nose is straight with the row of trucks on the other side. Stop! Do not do a continuous motion, stop the wheels. 22.5 in tires require 10 feet of linear roll-out distance to get one foot of turn, that's one revolution. If you do not stop those wheels and just conveniently turn your wheels, while it's rolling you will over shoot it due to wheel roll. Next; after your sharp right turn line up turn hard to the left and ease forward until your trailer lines up with your cab in the mirrors, both sides. You will see your target space behind you and a hard 90 degree "jacked" turn will not be required.
If you prefer hard 90 degree turns with your drives cut 90 degrees and drives wheels under the apron that's up to you. That will be needed when the far row of trucks on the other side is too close. A good many of the parking space as are just that...way too tight. Schools don't cover that, they give a set directive to dock and you do it that way. Your load assignments will dictate differently to the various shippers and consignee's. Some of these places are over 60 years old and designed for 40-45 ft trailers with cabovers or pickups. Even a long nose cab today can do it with a 40-45 ft trailer. 53ft trailers are a 60's idea put forth in the 70's and early 80's. It's not going to get any better before it gets much worse. Trucking companies are more numerous and three times the size they were 40 years. Crete has over 6000 trucks, now. JB hunt is three times its size from 30 years ago. More owner operators now. Space is a limited commodity so is illegal parking. 40 years ago would have made sense for citations, now, it's customary due to the fact there no choices left for the truck driver...we dont have the space available any longer to meet the current demand and it's growing still.
Practice parking, practice often...you will need it.
YES you are absolutely correct. That was omitted because beginner's might get confused. But you are right on the money. Keep rolling and may the roads be fair and the weather clear and be safe out their.
Very Well explained sir
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Thank you sir, be safe-be careful...good roads ahead!
"22.5 in tires require 10 feet of linear roll-out distance to get one foot of turn, that's one revolution. If you do not stop those wheels and just conveniently turn your wheels, while it's rolling you will over shoot it due to wheel roll."
- What the fuck?
great video dude! you explained really good. I'm just starting and this is excellent tip for me. thank you
Practicing this very maneuver and not doing so well. In my state we test for our CDL-A, which for me was parallel parking and offsetting with a final drive test. Then after passing, we have further tasks as part of our progression within the company. Very frustrating, but this video was very helpful! Thank you!
This isn't the best way to learn.
How you do ?
Backing is my nightmare as well...I. just got my cdl. I have failed to get a job twice due to backing...I have a third drive test for a job and I trust this video helps me. thanks
This is the best video on backing anywhere!!!!!!!
Great for trailer parking. unlike the one before, his tractor almost stuck to him in front. I am also one of those who dream of driving a trailer in another country. well done sir.
You are absolutely correct, when you pull in you need to set the trailer putting the corner of the trailer close to the truck next to the parking spot. Do an S turn to set the trailer to back it up. Good video.
when you're alley docking a truck turn your wheel a turn and a half then start backing u. wait until the trailer is at about a 30-40 degree angle then just chase it. I had a full sized semi sleeper with a 53' trailer never could alley dock but my friend told me to turn the wheel a turn and a half before I started moving and it worked every time. never missed an alley dock
at what position are you referring too, when your just pulling up close to the other trucks and turn the wheel to the "right" 1.5 turns?
Wow just tried backing into alley dock, worked great! All those wasted hours of how I couldn't back it in. This fixed it.
this video was helpful thanks for uploading, should always take your time on this part and not rush
Great video👍 i’m glad my trainer show me that when i did my two weeks training just create space it is more easy
Thank you for the video and explaining so well. Now I understand a bit better,I'm sure I'll mess up anyways haha but I feel more comfortable now that I watched this video.
just a young rookie about to get started ty bro for the info ill make sure i practice as much as they allow
Funny thing is I am watching this video while I. Am in school waiting to do my maneuvers when it’s my turn ,thanks for the tip,new driver is coming ,get out the way pump pump 💪🏿
just starting it's a nice video, great backing up tips, thanks.
Thank you so much for your video, it's really an eye opener.
Thank you! Very helpful. I appreciate your video.
No problem, sure hope it helped you guys N gals out there. Be safe
wwwnetryder that was great step by step instructions. Especially when you used your finger to indicate where you wanted the cab to align up at. Perfect brother. Thank you for posting it.
we need trainers like you thanks for the video
Hello I am from Africa. I want to know how much you pay every 30 days for this work driving truck ?
Is this the Sinclair In flagstaff? My training was teaching me in almost that exact spot lol
Love the Advice ❤️💯💪🏿
Thank you. I'm in school now and appreciate the tips.
Very informative, appreciated, brother, future driver, Lord willin
Thank-you for the great information!
nice, real and live explanation about the reverse
Wow excellent video. The 71 dislikes must be poor saps who do it wrong and this video reminds them of that.
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Thank you for explaining brother. It’s my first day working by myself now my trainer was a douche that just rushed me all the time. I learned more from youtube than from him lol
Good video I like how you explain it I was thinking of driving to a local truck stop where I live to see how the truckers back in so I can get an idea on 90 degree and 45 degree angle also making left and right turns in the city how not cause an accident
Thank you! Excellent tutorial.
If you come in 6" - 12" from the nose of the parked trucks, and you have that much tail hang, your going to hit something.
Only if you use your tandems as a reference point.
The reference point any driver needs to use is the end of the trailer.
6 inches or a foot the closer the better lmao... in this parking lot the first driver did a much better job even though he gave up. use the space you have.
I'm currently attending OFTC in Dublin, Ga. While practicing alley docking. I tried to set up close and park as you stated. Our instructors won't let us do it that way. They make us stay at least 8 feet away for the alley dock when we set up. It doesn't make any sense to me. They don't even discuss a setup prior to practicing it. We as a class refer to the internet for answers. If you ask a question they act like they don't won't to answer it and treat you like you're dumb. thanks for posting the video as I plan on alley docking like you have demonstrated when I get my CDL.
Same story here at MTC in St. Louis, MO. Each instructor teaches the maneuvers differently, and if you don't do it their way they like to scream at you. At this point I'd rather they all just leave the yard and leave me to it. I learn more from trial and error and youtube at this point.
Excellent video, very good method used!
Perfect explanation . Truck turns with the back tire as the center of the circle.
For turn and reverse, for smaller angles, turn the same way as car, for larger ratio , turn the steering wheel in opposite direction keeping the trailer not moving backwards much, but changing direction.
NB : Broken english mine
Just took my test in Iowa, straightline...passed, offset...passed, alley dock...failed, and it's because I wasn't close to the hole at all, thanks for the video, I take it again in 3 weeks...very stressful.
I just got my CDL so thank you for the video
Thank you 🙏 for sharing and I’am getting my CDL A permit and I just scribed
Don’t forget “GOAL”. It will save your you know what one day.
Absolutely
Excelente video. Muy importante saber rectificar y no ponerse nervioso!
I'm a fresh driver. I drive intermodal so I don't have to back up a lot but I practice on railyards as much as I can. Few months ago I hit another truck on a truck stop just because I didn't have enough space in the front . luckily the impact was very light. Thanks for helping video. Be safe.
Thats atleast 26 plus years of experience right there. A dedicated driver
Thanks Broh for tips! 👍👍👍 new the back up.
Today is my second day at job, yesterday i had trouble backing up. Hopefully this video will help
Thank you 🙏 this video really helped me a lot