I miss 2008 where I'd watch entire shows on youtube, I specifically remember watching all of Star Trek Voyager, The Mighty Boosh, and Black Books, IT Crowd, and Justice League unlimited. Ah the good old days before companies even realized people were putting everything up on youtube, lol.
its funny, what you listed for Xiao qiao's flaws are the reason I love her, her Musou was fun for me. and I miss Diaochan Maces, they were so good! Great Video as always =]
As much as it hurts to see my girl in Number 2 spot I have to agree she was definitely difficult to use, I'm glad they improved her Musou in later games making ger stationary and the daggers bigger, giving you an opportunity to bounce if things got overwhelming.
Most people severely underestimate Xu Zhu in this game, including myself at the start. He's slow af but he can beat the hardest mode on any stage if you spam his musou while he's on red health with defender and survival guide. This strategy is very boring to use however
Y'know it's funny. When I was 7 years old, my three mains were Sun Ce, Gan Ning...And Xu Zhu. I'm in the midst of doing a 100% run of DW3XL right now, and yeah. He's shit. How did my young self ever stand this character? I guess the +50 on his weapon made my child brain go: "higher number, must mean good." EDIT: A tip on using Xu Zhu's Musou: Try popping people up with a C2 or C5. I know, long shot, considering the absolutely abysmal windup time. But comboing the musou while they're mid-air, they'll get stuck in his spin instead of being launched away. Still doesn't make it super viable, but at least you'll get more than one hit in. XD
So about Zhang Jiao, I remember his flamethrower from his 3 hit combo and from his Musou being aimable if you move the control stick, so I used to practice him a lot as that makes that attack spammable compared to his default flamethrower pattern (moving the flamethrower left and right) I don't know if that was factored into the rating.
@@TheNightowlGaming It's been really long that I played this game, but it was fun that you can 360 his flamethrower around himself to prevent getting swarmed. But yea, I don't really remember him being that good and his only standout move for me was his flamethrower.
I feel like any character with a death element on their 4th/5th weapon shouldn’t be on this list (Xiahou Yuan and Xiao Qiao specifically) Xiahou Yuan and Xiao Qiao both have the death elements on their C6s and other than Cao Cao, Xiahou Yuan might have the best crowd control C6 on his 5th weapon
As much as it hurts to see two of my characters that I have a lot of fun with being on this list I can forgive you for making one of them honorable mentions, but it's fine my favorite characters may not be the same as other people's favorite characters or even just likeable characters in general, and that's okay everyone has different taste~
@@TheNightowlGaming and that is totally valid, I don't disagree with anyone being on your list either even if it did hurt seeing a couple of my faves on their but it's okay they get better in future games.
My first dw game ... good times still my favorite one when characters were still unique Not gonna lie i liked when they started giving diao chan what became her signature weapin the whip... but her other thingies werent bad either However zhen ji was my favorite one and then diao chan became my fav after she got her whip
Was worried my guy Huang Zhong would make the list 😂 I'd have had Meng Huo higher tbh.... And possibly put Sun Jian in instead of Xiao Qiao with the honorables. Average moveset with crap control 😂
Xu Zhu is just hard to play well as because you don’t use him like other characters. He needs to first of all have the right items and build (don’t give him a big musou bar, allows him to use it more), and his 4th weapon. Then, he can break guard of defending characters a lot and just wreck, but you can’t get too greedy. You have to think “hit and run”, always, and make defending your flank with timed swipes a top priority, rather than constant attacks. It’s all about how you approach the crowd. Often, you’re not attacking head on, but catching them in the peripheral edges of his swipes. (And yes, maneuvering the officer into a wall for the musou is ideal)
Yeah, I generally agree with this video. I didn't play with most of these characters mentioned in the video much in DW3 (except to beat their musou modes). The only exception was Xiao Qiao, who I did use a good amount (despite the fact that she wasn't as good as her sister). I think her speed helped a lot.
I think the KEY thing missing from these ratings is 4th and 5th weapon viability. Some 4ths and 5ths can make or break characters and only relying on base 3rd weapons is a detriment to their playstyles. Although no one has it, a weapon with Attack, Defense, Arrow Defense, Range and Musou Charge would likely be the best weapon in the game. Several characters have 4 of those on their weapons and only Sun Quan's Heavenly Wolf, Sun Ce's Overlord and Lui Bei's Gold Moon Dragon lack all 5. Granted, some sets of 4th and 5th are both viable, but should be judged on which of the 2 is better. Determining which weapon it should be based on, Hard mode even if you have to play Very Hard for the 5th. I still think you vastly underrated Zhou Yu. Great AOE, top dueling, great musou, easy to use, great kit (running attack is best in the game) and speed is average or better. His 4th weapon with Way of the Musou, Shell Armor, Tortoise Amulet, Tiger Amulet and Wind Scroll is oppressively strong. Are your items and characters maxed out, base stats or somewhere else? Anyways, firmly believe he should be in the top ten minimum.
Haha for sure I dont mind the civil disagreement, I played every character w their 4th weapon on the hardest level on hefei c, and these were my personal results and assessments, not to take away from any of them, but from what I was trying to achieve and feel these were my results, full list coming soon!
Zhu Rong became stronger and one of the best characters in DW5 with her standing musou (similar to Pang Tong's, Zhou Tai's) 👍 her 4th weapon stats, 360° C4 & C6 definitely helped a lot ✅️ for DW3 & DW4, she's painful to use 😂
My most fond memory of using Zhuge Liang was in pvp, because his two different musou can trip people up. When you fight each other for a while and see each other's musou it's predictable and when Zhuge Liang using his True Musou it's almost the same as his normal musou but they can forget that Zhuge Liang shoots an extra finishing blow where his normal Musou would've ended and hit them when they get up/let their guard down, expecting the musou to have ended from his normal musou. But other than that, I think his range wasn't that good because of the fan? It's been so long that I played pvp with friends.
Those dual maces were perfect. Very elegant with ballet twirls. Zhanghe dances with his dlc claws in Dw9. Why not Diaochan with dlc dual maces? They gave Dc a whip with Zhenji dw3 stance :/
Xu Zhu really got shafted poor guy. He was a legend and here he's a complete joke. And not the good kind either. At least 7 and 8 did him some justice.
Meng Huo gotta be #1 for me just for lack of fun factor. It's literally just spam musou on red constantly to win any normal difficulty stage. He's super slow, terrible range even with wind scroll which does nothing for him. He does low damage even though it feels like he should do heavy damage to make up for the slow speed. No decent charge attacks. Would take Xu Zhu any day of the week over this wimp.
i think diao chan is more like mid tier in dw3... she is not bad but not good either,, i struggle playing her on very hard mode but i do just fine in hard mode ... some characters are just too weak to play on very hard mode .. thats my problem with dw 3 ,, characters are too unbalanced,,, they did a much better job with characters on dw4 and dw5 ,, i still love 3 but the game has issues where many characters are not viable on easy and even normal difficulty
There's no such thing as a "Pro DW3" player. If people are calling themselves that then they are liars and believe they are something they are not. Tier lists in general are a scam unless the person in question states that it's only their opinion... like this video.
@@sarkaztik3228 You have no idea how wrong you are. I’m not interested in arguing on the internet because not only it won’t change your mind, but also because I’d be wasting my time. Think however you want, but your statement makes zero logical sense.
Pro dw3 players ? Don't think I've heard of that one, but all characters were put thru the same situation, sams circumstances and these are the ones I feel struggled the most thats all 🤙
@@TheNightowlGaming It all comes down to using those characters in the optimal way. More than a decade ago, there were players who extensively played this game and created a well-detailed, factual tier list of DW3. I could go on and on, but just to give an example, tip of the iceberg style: Xiao Qiao is one of the best characters in this game due to her 4th weapon holding the death element on her C6. Xu Zhu is actually decent if you employ the red health strategy and use his musou effectively by taking your enemies to a wall so you can continuously hit them with Xu Zhu’s musou. Pang Tong’s and Dian Wei’s 4th weapons provide musou charge; if you don’t max their musou bar, they can easily and quickly fill it, giving them absurd levels of consistency and offense. Regarding Pang Tong, you can simply spam S1 because it has a wide range and will fill musou quickly on a large enough crowd, etc. As I’ve said, I could go on and on, but I’ll leave it here. I do agree on some points, though: Zhuge Liang, Diao Chan, and Zhu Rong are indeed among the worst characters in this game. Zhuge Liang, in particular, should be number 1 since he’s widely considered the worst character in the game.
Bro, this is the type of stuff TH-cam was made for. I feel like I'm back in 2013 watching Top Ten TH-camrs on my Wii.
I miss 2008 where I'd watch entire shows on youtube, I specifically remember watching all of Star Trek Voyager, The Mighty Boosh, and Black Books, IT Crowd, and Justice League unlimited.
Ah the good old days before companies even realized people were putting everything up on youtube, lol.
I could not agree more. This is so accurate. My inner child is happy 😂
Bro!
Haha let's go! Glad I could tingle the inner nostalgia in all of us, DW for life!
Dw3 was the first game that taught me how much weapon range matters
Lol for sure
its funny, what you listed for Xiao qiao's flaws are the reason I love her, her Musou was fun for me. and I miss Diaochan Maces, they were so good! Great Video as always =]
Hahah and thats okay! Glad you liked teh video!
The complaints are why I always use speed and range boost items every character. A slow character is dreadful
Its so devastating
Exactly, a speed scroll and wind scroll maxed level helps out a lot with the more difficult to use characters.
Off topic, but I want a remaster of DW3 just for the Qiaos' character designs.
I think we all can agree
As much as it hurts to see my girl in Number 2 spot I have to agree she was definitely difficult to use, I'm glad they improved her Musou in later games making ger stationary and the daggers bigger, giving you an opportunity to bounce if things got overwhelming.
Can agree, I love playing her in 4 and 5 cause her musuo is so much better and her abilities.
Excited to see how she grows as I go thru the games
I knew this was coming, but I’ll stand by DiaoChan being goated in three! You just gotta know how to use her!
LOL for sure the experiment for all the characters help some and killed others 😁
Most people severely underestimate Xu Zhu in this game, including myself at the start. He's slow af but he can beat the hardest mode on any stage if you spam his musou while he's on red health with defender and survival guide. This strategy is very boring to use however
I could see that being plausible
Y'know it's funny. When I was 7 years old, my three mains were Sun Ce, Gan Ning...And Xu Zhu.
I'm in the midst of doing a 100% run of DW3XL right now, and yeah. He's shit. How did my young self ever stand this character? I guess the +50 on his weapon made my child brain go: "higher number, must mean good."
EDIT: A tip on using Xu Zhu's Musou: Try popping people up with a C2 or C5. I know, long shot, considering the absolutely abysmal windup time. But comboing the musou while they're mid-air, they'll get stuck in his spin instead of being launched away. Still doesn't make it super viable, but at least you'll get more than one hit in. XD
Lol for sure, I won't be playing xu zhu for fun I'll tell ya that lol
So about Zhang Jiao, I remember his flamethrower from his 3 hit combo and from his Musou being aimable if you move the control stick, so I used to practice him a lot as that makes that attack spammable compared to his default flamethrower pattern (moving the flamethrower left and right) I don't know if that was factored into the rating.
It was but because of the scenario I put every character in for a fair rating he gets swarmed easily and doesn't do anough to clear enemies safely
@@TheNightowlGaming It's been really long that I played this game, but it was fun that you can 360 his flamethrower around himself to prevent getting swarmed.
But yea, I don't really remember him being that good and his only standout move for me was his flamethrower.
I feel like any character with a death element on their 4th/5th weapon shouldn’t be on this list
(Xiahou Yuan and Xiao Qiao specifically)
Xiahou Yuan and Xiao Qiao both have the death elements on their C6s and other than Cao Cao, Xiahou Yuan might have the best crowd control C6 on his 5th weapon
I can see your point, but it becomes obsolete when (in the experiment I did) he's too slow to get there and gets shredded by crowds from my exp
As much as it hurts to see two of my characters that I have a lot of fun with being on this list I can forgive you for making one of them honorable mentions, but it's fine my favorite characters may not be the same as other people's favorite characters or even just likeable characters in general, and that's okay everyone has different taste~
Its okay to like anyone on this list, just in the test i gave all the characters this was my findings
@@TheNightowlGaming and that is totally valid, I don't disagree with anyone being on your list either even if it did hurt seeing a couple of my faves on their but it's okay they get better in future games.
seeing Xiao Qiao makes me sad, but agreed
At least she's fast!
If only Xu Zhu's musou didn't blow people away, he would've been a lot better to use.
I think they fix that in the next games
Xu Chu: 🤡
Big Man of Yan 😎😎
My first dw game ... good times still my favorite one when characters were still unique
Not gonna lie i liked when they started giving diao chan what became her signature weapin the whip... but her other thingies werent bad either
However zhen ji was my favorite one and then diao chan became my fav after she got her whip
Whip is great for diaochan
Was worried my guy Huang Zhong would make the list 😂
I'd have had Meng Huo higher tbh.... And possibly put Sun Jian in instead of Xiao Qiao with the honorables. Average moveset with crap control 😂
The swords in this game imo wer so easy to abuse with, Jian was actually higher up imo 👀
Xiahou Yuans death element on his 5th weapon C6 though…Damn. Broken and top tier imo
Its good, too slow to get there tho
Xu Zhu is just hard to play well as because you don’t use him like other characters. He needs to first of all have the right items and build (don’t give him a big musou bar, allows him to use it more), and his 4th weapon. Then, he can break guard of defending characters a lot and just wreck, but you can’t get too greedy. You have to think “hit and run”, always, and make defending your flank with timed swipes a top priority, rather than constant attacks. It’s all about how you approach the crowd. Often, you’re not attacking head on, but catching them in the peripheral edges of his swipes. (And yes, maneuvering the officer into a wall for the musou is ideal)
For sure, still sluggish and ineffective at least for the challenge I put every character in, thru a normal run this could be effective
Yeah, I generally agree with this video. I didn't play with most of these characters mentioned in the video much in DW3 (except to beat their musou modes). The only exception was Xiao Qiao, who I did use a good amount (despite the fact that she wasn't as good as her sister). I think her speed helped a lot.
xiaoqiao is redonculous fast
Yeah i really need to play dw 3 im missing out. Also cant wait for that dynasty warriors state of play reaction because im hype.
yezzirr!! when I get some time i for sure will, excited!
I think the KEY thing missing from these ratings is 4th and 5th weapon viability. Some 4ths and 5ths can make or break characters and only relying on base 3rd weapons is a detriment to their playstyles.
Although no one has it, a weapon with Attack, Defense, Arrow Defense, Range and Musou Charge would likely be the best weapon in the game. Several characters have 4 of those on their weapons and only Sun Quan's Heavenly Wolf, Sun Ce's Overlord and Lui Bei's Gold Moon Dragon lack all 5.
Granted, some sets of 4th and 5th are both viable, but should be judged on which of the 2 is better. Determining which weapon it should be based on, Hard mode even if you have to play Very Hard for the 5th.
I still think you vastly underrated Zhou Yu. Great AOE, top dueling, great musou, easy to use, great kit (running attack is best in the game) and speed is average or better. His 4th weapon with Way of the Musou, Shell Armor, Tortoise Amulet, Tiger Amulet and Wind Scroll is oppressively strong. Are your items and characters maxed out, base stats or somewhere else? Anyways, firmly believe he should be in the top ten minimum.
Haha for sure I dont mind the civil disagreement, I played every character w their 4th weapon on the hardest level on hefei c, and these were my personal results and assessments, not to take away from any of them, but from what I was trying to achieve and feel these were my results, full list coming soon!
My dad would've loved this video... about 20 years ago when the game came out.
Lol for sure 😂
Love the editing bro!
Appreciate it man! Yeah I thiugh this would absorb the info easier 🔥🤙
Nice video 🤙U should do the best characters to play
Already did 😎
Zhu Rong became stronger and one of the best characters in DW5 with her standing musou (similar to Pang Tong's, Zhou Tai's) 👍 her 4th weapon stats, 360° C4 & C6 definitely helped a lot ✅️ for DW3 & DW4, she's painful to use 😂
Lol for sure alot of characters get better thru time
Not going to lie, Zhuge Liang is one of my mains. Thats not a troll, I just like his 5th weapon with the damage.
Haven't got anyone's 5th yet, but will be doing those eventually too
My most fond memory of using Zhuge Liang was in pvp, because his two different musou can trip people up.
When you fight each other for a while and see each other's musou it's predictable and when Zhuge Liang using his True Musou it's almost the same as his normal musou but they can forget that Zhuge Liang shoots an extra finishing blow where his normal Musou would've ended and hit them when they get up/let their guard down, expecting the musou to have ended from his normal musou.
But other than that, I think his range wasn't that good because of the fan? It's been so long that I played pvp with friends.
I hope you'll have dw4xl (and dw3xl if you don't have it) someday to review the hardest weapon to get it those games😁
I for sure will!
Zhuge liang one of my favorites in this game but every thing you said is true😂
Haha Zhuge is a beast no doubt
They call me The Dishwasher... 🗡️
😎
Those dual maces were perfect. Very elegant with ballet twirls. Zhanghe dances with his dlc claws in Dw9. Why not Diaochan with dlc dual maces? They gave Dc a whip with Zhenji dw3 stance :/
For sure. Maces aren't too bad definitely like the whip more
Xu Zhu really got shafted poor guy. He was a legend and here he's a complete joke. And not the good kind either. At least 7 and 8 did him some justice.
8 he was peak mobeset, 5 wasn't bad either
Meng Huo gotta be #1 for me just for lack of fun factor. It's literally just spam musou on red constantly to win any normal difficulty stage. He's super slow, terrible range even with wind scroll which does nothing for him. He does low damage even though it feels like he should do heavy damage to make up for the slow speed. No decent charge attacks. Would take Xu Zhu any day of the week over this wimp.
lol for suree
I knew Xu Zhu was going to be number 1, the fking mushou alone would make you not want to use him.
Lol yup so baddf
Can you do this for the other dw games I’d very much like to hear ur opinion on them?
They're coming! 🙌
Are you going to do similar best and worst character tops on other Warriors games, DW, SW, Orochi, Gundam?
Not too familiar with them, so once I get more acquainted yeah I would love to
New trailer for DW origin just come out
I just saw!
That's alright, silver for worst in DW3 but gold for best girl in all games
Haha she's a great character
i think diao chan is more like mid tier in dw3... she is not bad but not good either,, i struggle playing her on very hard mode but i do just fine in hard mode ... some characters are just too weak to play on very hard mode .. thats my problem with dw 3 ,, characters are too unbalanced,,, they did a much better job with characters on dw4 and dw5 ,, i still love 3 but the game has issues where many characters are not viable on easy and even normal difficulty
For sure currently going thru all of them in dw5
Now you just shooting slugs going against pang tong 🤬
At least he gotta good musou 😁
@@TheNightowlGaming 😂🤣
omg new dynasty warriors origins trailer drop and my girl diaochan was revealed
Her and zhen ji are two of the best tbh
@@aspookyspookynight zhen ji is one of my faves too, but diaochan is in her own league
she looks great!
Meng huo Huang gai
Zhu Rong was better in 4
playing thru it now!
I strongly recommend you to read about the DW3 tier lists. Pro DW3 players would strongly disagree with the vast majority of statements on this video.
There's no such thing as a "Pro DW3" player. If people are calling themselves that then they are liars and believe they are something they are not.
Tier lists in general are a scam unless the person in question states that it's only their opinion... like this video.
@@sarkaztik3228 You have no idea how wrong you are. I’m not interested in arguing on the internet because not only it won’t change your mind, but also because I’d be wasting my time. Think however you want, but your statement makes zero logical sense.
Pro dw3 players ? Don't think I've heard of that one, but all characters were put thru the same situation, sams circumstances and these are the ones I feel struggled the most thats all 🤙
@@TheNightowlGaming It all comes down to using those characters in the optimal way. More than a decade ago, there were players who extensively played this game and created a well-detailed, factual tier list of DW3.
I could go on and on, but just to give an example, tip of the iceberg style: Xiao Qiao is one of the best characters in this game due to her 4th weapon holding the death element on her C6. Xu Zhu is actually decent if you employ the red health strategy and use his musou effectively by taking your enemies to a wall so you can continuously hit them with Xu Zhu’s musou. Pang Tong’s and Dian Wei’s 4th weapons provide musou charge; if you don’t max their musou bar, they can easily and quickly fill it, giving them absurd levels of consistency and offense.
Regarding Pang Tong, you can simply spam S1 because it has a wide range and will fill musou quickly on a large enough crowd, etc. As I’ve said, I could go on and on, but I’ll leave it here.
I do agree on some points, though: Zhuge Liang, Diao Chan, and Zhu Rong are indeed among the worst characters in this game. Zhuge Liang, in particular, should be number 1 since he’s widely considered the worst character in the game.
@@ChrisPTY507 Translation: I am offended my favorite was on this list.