Repair Logitech Z-2300 Satellite Speakers (replace part 170001-0000)
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- **Repairing my Logitech Z-2300 Satellite Speakers which has worn out speaker parts creating a crackling sound. Replaced speaker part Logitech 170001-0000 with Dayton Audio DMA70-8 (2-1/2" Dual Magnet Aluminum Cone Full-Range Driver 8 Ohms)
Replacement Part Options
Parts Express - Dayton DMA70-8
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Parts Express - Visaton FRS7-8
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*Visaton FRS7-8 Repair Video by Oto Ekres*
• Logitech Z2300 repair
Thanks very much for the video. Very helpful. Four comments (mostly based on what others have said):
1. The sound of the Dayton's is a bit darker than the originals. I guess I will get used to it.
2. The drivers appear to have been wired with reverse polarity on purpose, presumable to get them in-phase with the woofer.
3. I found a pack of 4x38 sheet metal screws at my local Ace Hardware that worked perfectly for attaching the drivers. $1.65 for 25 screws.
4. I used a little bit of shoe glue to secure the mounting screws from vibrating out, and also to reattach the two speaker halves. You want to be very careful to control any source of vibration, and I assume that the glue was part of the process to control cabinet vibration.
Again, may thanks.
Glad you found the video helpful and thank you for the additional information, I hope everyone takes the time to read your comment it is extremely helpful :-)
4 years later and still helping :)
Thankyou very much just repaired mine and they sound fantastic! 20 years and still going!!
Awesome mine have at least 10 years on them so you've got me beat in longevity. Happy to know mine have plenty of life left haha
Thank you. Life saver. Had this system for nearly 15 years. It has served me well and was not ready to let it go. Especially since nothing out today is worthy buying for a desktop 2.1 system that i could find. I need studio speakers. But not in a position to buy what i really want. Plus I've mixed and mastered music on these things for over a decade. Completely usable for that. I procured some screws but wasn't excited about the idea of boring into the housing and not sure of the longevity or sturdiness if they didn't catch. Not a lot of plastic there and kinda sketch. So i Krazy Glued them on >D Figure the original lasted 15 years so fairly unlikely these will blow in the near future, in fact the originals would still be fine but i got a little to partied up one day and cranked them waay too far. They sound exactly the same at default. I run a system wide EQ to accommodate my room. Soldered them in, took no time at all. \m/\m/
Awesome!! I was in that same position and couldn't get myself to buy something new to replace these which I loved so much so resurrecting them was definitely a must and I'm so happy you got the result you needed, enjoy your sound!!!
Great video! I searched for this on a whim after my old speakers decided to blow out during my first online "covid concert". This is a much more cost effective option for me at the moment and it's greatly appreciated.
Your welcome and I'm glad it helped you. Always better saving money haha hope your first covid concert went well and with fixed speakers you can make time for concert #2 ;-)
Just wanted to say Thank you for the video. I thought about this years ago and never decided to replace the blown speakers and just bought new ones from eBay. Just replaced them with the Dayton audio drivers and it sounds like day one again. Nice clean, crisp audio. Much Appreciated mang!!
#4 3/8" pan head sheet metal screws work perfect to attach the daytons, you can tighten them down all the way and they sit flush
thanks for this video btw, never thought about just replacing the speakers and stumbled across this while trying to figure out what new setup to buy cuz my satellites are blown out and I finally got tired of the rattle. Got the daytons and saved a bunch of money, cheers!
Glad this helped you and you're enjoying the fixed speakers.
Thank you for the information on the screws I should have replaced them but was lazy and just used the same materials haha but this is great for those who want a more proper installation
Thanks for the walk thru. Just did this with the Visaton FRS7-8 and am super happy with the results. The new speakers have cleaner highs and go way louder.
you're very welcome, glad it helped :-)
So the cheaper speaker actually works better than the more expensive Dayton?
My left speaker started making crackling sound, pronounced during speech. Thanks for the video.
Just bought these Dayton speakers on your behalf. They better be good man! Hahah. I also used a boxcutter to succesfully remove the foam on the old speakers since refoaming only costs like 4 bucks. Just for fun. I think refoaming isnt even that hard I feel like its gonna work. Thanks for showing how to take the sattelite speakers apart and linking the speakers!
You are very welcome and good luck with your repair and trying out that foam
Awesome man. Great and informative video. I've had my z-2300 set for over a decade ever since high school, and it's grown on me.
I would've had no idea on what kind of speaker replacements would've worked in these without you.
I've got to replace the rubber surround on the factory driver, because the original one started dry rotting and tearing apart.
Glad it helped and I know what you mean I have my speakers for about a decade as well and didn't want to get rid of them so just had to find a way to save em haha
I just noticed at 7:30 you are showing original soldering points and the red wire is soldered to the - terminal and the black is solder to the + terminal. That is exactly how it is on my speaker too. If both speakers are the same then it is ok (I haven't open my other one yet). But if originally both speakers (L and R) are connected this way and you changed this on your new speaker then it will be out of faze with the other original. Also I noticed the original speaker is 2-3/4" in size (2.75" not 2.5") and that is the reason why it is so hard to find the replacement.
Your choice is also better as it looks like it is shielded. Double neodymium magnet makes it better control of the cone.
Either way I will buy and replace mine as you did (except the wiring) as I am sick and tired searching the net for the right part.
Thanks for the upload.
Glad my video helped and yeah I don't think mentioned it but I'm pretty sure i kept the polarity of the wiring the same as the way I found it and the image at 7:30 was the other person's video but yes since I could not adjust the source wiring I installed the new speaker with the same connections to the positive and negative terminals
Best of luck with your repair!!
I noticed that the wiring was reversed. Did you end up fixing it with the same reverse wiring? If so how did it work?
yay i was able to fix my rear speakers on my 5300 system thanks for the info and part numbers
Great Video Thanks. I have watched otto's video and the Visaton FRS 7-8 speakers seem to match up perfectly to the original holes so you can reuse the original screws it would seem. In my country (Australia) the FRS are half the price when compared to the Daytons which are $42 each! Cheers for the help, much appreciated.
Thanks a lot for sharing, I had the same problem with the speakers and I will follow your steps for sure
For sure glad to get mine working again. If you have any questions just let me know I'm happy to try and help. Good Luck!!
Thank you! Have 2300 since 2005, but satellites are dead for 2 years now. Time to replace them.
Nothing better than getting that sound back again and much easier than I originally anticipated so good luck let me know if you run into any problems :-)
Follow your step and fixed my z2300, thanks bro
Awesome!! So glad this helped you, enjoy your new sound 🙂
Ok i just did this fix with the Daytons, i also used hot glue, i hope it will hold, so far so good, thank you!
That is great option and I assume it should hold just fine as long you used a good amount to hold it in place
Well, this video helped me to know that it seems if you wanted to upgrade the speakers in this it would be 8 ohm speakers. thanks :)
thanks for the tutoarial, i used them at 90% volume and the foam broke on both satelites
At least you were living loud haha 90% is quite the party with these speakers :-)
I have had these speakers since I was 16 years old back in 2006 when they were on sale at Best Buy for 120 dollars. I still use them to this day for my computer. Everything works perfectly fine EXCEPT for the spring that sits underneath the power button on the volume and bass control module, its worn out so every now and then the audio cuts out and I have to press power button a couple times for the spring to get back in the right place. Could you possibly do a repair video on how to replace the spring on the control peripheral? Actually also the audio jack for headphones doesn't really work on it too but that's been negligible for a decade now.
I"d rather not open up the unit until I have a reason to disassemble it but the access screws are located under the non-skid pads on the bottom I would try just opening it and see what's happening in there.
The spring is easy and just needs a slight stretch to maintain its connection. I've done this with chargers for tiny ear buds and its a fairly easy fix.
As for the headphone jack that will depend on the damage your unit has hopefully it's just a loose wire connection you can tighten and set right again but its possible the jack may need to be replaced but hopefully that's not the case if it still works most of the time.
Sorry you are having those issues but hopefully they are easy fixes, best of luck!!
Great video. Based on this video I also bought the Dayton Audio DMA70-8, but to my surprise the mounting holes don't match to the original speaker, so it's not a complete drop-in. Before I start doing crazy stuff, how did you mount the Dayton's to the front of the speaker?
It should sit in the framing very well but yes the screw holes do not match up. If you see in the video I used different screws with the same diameter but longer and self driving and screwed them in at an angle. Obviously careful with how far you screw them in because accidently went too far on one and it tries to come out the front so definitely avoid that. You have room in the casing to had the screw sit out the back a bit. As mentioned in other comments you can also glue them after to remove any backing out of the screw from vibration but i did not glue mine and I have had no issues.
Just use your best judgement on the screw choice but as long as it is about the same diameter and not too long then you should be just fine. Hope this helps you with moving forward on your repair, good luck!!
@@BrentBurke13 Thanks for the very quick reply! I decided to leave the original satellites as they are and create new "enclosures" using 100mm PVC pipe. For a BR configuration I saw the ideal capacity should be 1,6L. I'll use a well damped 2L enclosure and print 2 rings to close up the front of the pipe. This way I can use the monitor stand to fix the enclosure and both speakers will be on the right level on both sides of the monitor.
Thank you, fixed mine with your help.
Very helpful indeed - thank you. I did everything I could to stop that buzz in one speaker and now it's good (better?) than new. I used a hot glue gun to secure the speaker and it's fine so far... I checked 4 different Z2300 satellite speakers and 3 of the 4 had the black lead connected to the RED (+) terminal. The 4th had + to RED. The RED line is the center tip of the RCA connector - which is how it actually should be. I'm guessing the Logitech assembly line was not exactly up to NASA specs. A quick Google search says that polarity with speakers is not as critical as having all speakers connected the same - so I stayed with RED to the NEG terminal and they sound great all around. Also...Ya got laugh at the "port" on these speakers. You know what I mean if you've ever taken a close look... :)
Wow can't believe that many had the terminals switched haha I too have noticed switching them has never caused an issue but it does make sense that it would be best to match them in a whole system so that's good to know and will definitely remember that for any surround sound systems or additional speakers I add on haha thanks for the info and your comment :-)
You will want to switch polarity, see my comment above
4:45 How are the screws able to be such an extreme angle not damaging the threaded insert that the screw rotates into !?
I would recommend soldering the wires to the speakers, the wire tips you used will fail because of the vibration. You won't get the full sound out the replacement speakers because the new speakers have dust caps and the originals have a metal cones which bring out more treble, higher frequencies. That's important because these subwoofers are powerful, they might overpower the satellites. Even the original speakers sometimes struggle to keep up with the bass. It's really hard to find parts for the original speakers but I would recommend taking the time in repairing them. Nice choice though, that's the closest after market Full Range 8 Ohms 20W RMS 40W Peak speakers that fit in the casing.
Thanks I unfortunately am not as much of an expert on audio equipment as I wish I was and totally understand what you mean regarding soldering them I was just lazy and went with the quicker option but luckily haven't encountered ay issues so far but will keep that in mind if I hear any change in the sound.
Sadly yes its hard to find as well a built speaker as was offered in the originals and maybe had I known to repair the speaker I would have done so and if you do and happen to make a video on how to do it please feel free to link it here to help any others in my situation.
Thanks for your comment I appreciate your knowledgeable insight :-)
@@BrentBurke13 Here is a video on how to replace the surround on most speakers, even though the man in the video says that speakers are toast when the coil burns out which is false, it's still a good video. th-cam.com/video/aqRf2IJn0YI/w-d-xo.html
here is a link for the surround, these are foam
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07S69WKCF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
but if you want rubber like the original:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07S7D284P/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
@@amiscellaneouschannel3098 I'll definitely have to try this next time if another speaker of mine fails, thanks for sharing!!
Don’t get this rubber surround, it’s the wrong size, the foam one is the right size, can’t find the rubber kind that fits.
You are a legend thanks mate.
thx you man! from france
Great video!
You help me a lot!
I have the same problems with my satellites...
I live in Europe and I also find this new Dayton satellite too.
2 years gone from your repair.
You have a huge experience.😅
How it works the new Daytons satellies?
If you say its working well, I order now.
Thank you so much for your help Mate!
Greetings from Hungary:
Best regards: Kris
Did you fix your speakers?
Hello Brent, thanks for posting this. I just got my new DMA70-8 2-1/2" Dual Magnet Aluminum Cone Full-Range Driver 8 Ohm to replace my old & damaged Logitech speakers. I'm a little bit confused since you are connecting the red wire to the big pin. I noticed that my old satellite it was connected the opposite way (black to positive and red to negative). is that matter? Can you please clarify further? thanks
Thanks for you comment!!
As far as my knowledge goes the positive and negative connections don't matter as long as you wire all the same way so just make sure your second speaker is wired however you do the first. For extra assurance I would try to just match how the originals were wired but if you already did your repair and switched to the same way I did it then dont worry it should work just fine but again just make sure you did the same set up on the other speaker.
Hope it goes well!!
@@BrentBurke13 all done mate, thanks so much. Working perfectly. Best Regards!
@@Libre-r4t glad to hear, enjoy!!
DMA70-8 2-1/2" dual magnet aluminium
Thank you very much for the useful video.
I'm rebuilding a logitech z2300 subwoofer. Currently couldn't find a proper voice coil 1.5" for it.
hey helpful video could you have used the black bolts from the front of the speaker to screw the speaker in? or were screw the only way to do it given the angle thx
The bolts from the front are a different size than what's used inside so I would not recommend trying it. I used screws because the holes didn't line up perfectly so I needed self tapping screws to ensure a strong connection when fastening the new part inside the speakers housing.
You could use a bolt if the holes lined up and fit properly to secure the component nicely inside without any noticeable problems. Be sure it's not loose in there because then you will hear vibrations from inside when you use them with volume. Good luck!!
@@BrentBurke13 thx
Hey Brent, i've read online that since the ports are actually sealed you're less likely to have problems with the speaker. I installed a different pair of daytons, one i actually glued in so it was completely flush, the other I screwed in so there actually was a little gap between the driver and the case. Anyway, the one that was flush actually blew out at less than a year old and only running at 75%, whereas the one with the gap is fine. So either I caught a dud, which is likely, or it's beneficial to have some air venting. Any thoughts on this? I'm considering putting some holes in the ports, which I understand can effect the bass a little. But can extend the life of the speaker perhaps. I still think I caught a dud. Any experience or thoughts on this? thanks
@@johnnybeckenterprise Hi! You mentioned you installed a different Dayton speaker (NOT the DMA70-8 2½") and it failed. Could you please tell me which model you used?
Also, how did it compare soundwise to the originals? Was it darker, brighter or similar?
Thanks!
I have these speakers and replaced the right speaker with the Visaton. (Great video by the way) I still don't get sound from the speaker. Any idea what might be causing that? Thanks
Thanks glad you liked my video. If no sound is coming out my first guess would be that either one of you connections may have come loose or possibly could have them backward?
Other than that not sure usually you should get some sound.
There is still sound coming from left speaker
. As before.. Just not from the right one. I notice the cable that runs from speaker to back of subwooder looks like a regular RCA to speaker cable (red and black) maybe that's bad?
Also, as an updated Logitech connected these speakers in versus polarity from the factory, thus making the speaker cone "pull in" upon voltage applied. The correct fashion is the speaker cone should "push outward" when voltage is applied. Incorrect polarity will shorten the life and any speaker/woofer. I've email them the proof with pictures and no reply yet.
Its very interesting this reversed polarity has been noticed by a few people opening up their speakers. Thanks for that bit of detail and I hope they respond to your email. Curious what they will say!!
Well, I guess I could do this refit, but I think I might opt for a wireless set like Amazon Echo
Any other alternative speakers ? The one you mentioned are out of stock.
I provided two types of speakers that would work so I would either search for them from another supplier or find an alternative that matches the same size and specs. Good Luck!!
@@BrentBurke13 thanks !
Mine right speaker is louder than the left one. Some say its the volume controller. But i'm not sure.
Its not the cable thats for sure.
I would check the connections making sure nothing is loose or having a less secured connection than the other. If they cables and the connectors are solid then it's most likely one speaker unit is failing causing the sound that is produced by it to be less than the fully functional speaker
@@BrentBurke13 Could be a filter cap on the bottom of the control pod PCB. Mine had a broken input wire and a filter cap with low reading compared to the other channel cap that reads 10k ohms. I replaced the cap and it fixed the low volume in one channel.
whats that little piece to connect the wires called? (The ones you're using to skip the soddering) Thanks!
They are called female spade connectors. Im not sure what size I actually used but if you have your replacement speaker you can visit any hardware store to compare the sizes and see what fits best.
If you have any trouble with them or any other questions just let me know.
hello can i use Peerless by Tymphany PLS-65F25AL02-08 instead of dayton ? its 25w rms 50w max looks better right ?
Thanks, that's such a great video! I've been using my Z-2300 with volume and bass at about 90%...Result, the left satellite is now buzzing at high volume. I am considering fixing it with the same speakers as the ones you used. However, I would like to know if there is a way I can completely replace the Logitech satellites with a pair of bookshelf speakers or studio monitors and keep the Logitech sub.
I would assume that is possible just need to use the same type of input plugs used on the original satellite speakers. You could probably repurpose the original connectors and just splice the wires together for the other speaker. My only thought of concern would be the amount of power sent through the wire not overloading the replacement speakers you connect. Never hurts to try but I would see about finding those audio inputs at an electronics store and fixing them to your alternate speakers just in case some how it blows the speakers you still have the originals to plug in as back up.
Good luck!!
Same happened for me.. those speakers rip through their surrounds at higher volumes.. you can definitely swap them with other speakers I did it and used klipsch speakers which have better clarity and handle more power. Go for it!
@@BrentBurke13 Hey, I got some preaonus studio speakers that I am using with the subwoofer through a two-female-one-male jack y-splitter. Thanks for your reply!
@@christianmontesino171 I swapped them with some presonus speakers, and I'm very happy with them. I guess you plug yours directly into the sub's crossover. I use mine with a y splitter making the speakers and the sub play the same thing while being totally independent of each other.
@@fadilisamotu3000 hey! That works too!
Or Can I use Altech Lansing Expressionist Ultra sattelite as Logitech Z 326 sattelite
Are you talking about using a totally different satellite speaker on the system or changing out the internal component of the satellite speaker?
If its the full speaker you just need compatible hooks ups or splice the wires together to make it work
If its the internal speaker the measurements for what fits in the satellite casing is what matters which is why I chose the parts that I did.
Best of luck!!
I have to replace the right speaker I was wondering if anybody on here would know of the two options of replacement speaker which is the better one?
I would check out the full specs for each on the parts warehouse links I provided in the video detail section and choose from there. Low probability someone has replaced with both unless one failed and so far I haven't come across that with anyone.
The Visaton part says it has a waterproof if that helps your decision? haha🤷♂
backordered until april
aw thats a bummer I guess my wildly popular video has increased demand haha jk hopefully they can get them out sooner sorry to hear you have to wait :-(
Can I replace Logitech z326 sattelite speaker with Altech lansing Expressionist Ultra Sattrlitr Speaker?
Any recommendation to replace speaker satellites fron itriguer L3800 satellittes ? 8ohm part AGC0000320230
Sorry not familiar with that. I only know what I have referenced in this video
I took the wire out so I can conect to better pair of 8 ohm speakers, sound much better
TYVM!
You're very welcome :-)
That would have been funny if I went out and bought a set of hex drivers because I did not have any and then discover they are just rubber caps. lol
With which other speaker model can I replace it, because the Dayton Audio DMA70-8 cant find to buy it in Spain / Europa?
You can also use the Visaton FRS7-8 (I put a link in the description to another video that shows installing that one)
You should be able to order either one on parts-express and have it shipped to you
Otherwise I would recommend just finding something near you that has the same dimensions and speaker quality.
Ok, thx, its 60 dollars the delivery from USA so fill check hire
@@icopenev6023 ouch sorry they are charging so much for delivery to you. Hopefully you can find it from another site that would ship it for cheaper to you.
Best of luck with your search though, I hope you are able to find something :-)
Thanks for yr. very useful video
7:35 screenshot of original video shows black wire soldered to the positive lead. Anyone else notice this?
original part how many watt?
The original satellite speakers were 40 watt, same as my replacement Dayton DMA70-8 speakers
I also found wrong polarity in the satellites from factory and now i am tempted to check the sub...
I have the replacement speaker I ordered same as yours from parts express but I am having difficulty opening the satellite speaker they must have used so kind of adhesive can any help me on that issue ? I tried to pry them apart and already marred up the finish on them
Are you sure you remove the screws behind the rubber screw covers in the corners? I have never heard of them using glue or any speaker usually for that matter. They will typically always have an accessible way to the speaker unit.
If there is in fact glue I would try using a razor blade to run the seem and remove the glue as best you can before trying to pry it open somehow but again that shouldn't be needed.
I would search as thoroughly as you can for screws as 99% of all speakers I have seen have been constructed using screws to hold them together in their casing.
Let me know what you find and I'll help you as best I can
@@BrentBurke13 I really appreciate you replying back and I finally got them apart but I ending up marring them in the process but I replace the 2 1/2 in speaker and they sound good like before
@@901THECAT all's well that ends well haha glad you were able to get them fixed and playing sound again!!
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