Second time I watched this video didn't realize the point you made in this video but now that I had questions surrounding this issue I now understand these particular settings CLEARLY. So thank you for this.
Hey man thanks for this upload. You have a new subscriber. I just picked up a BMPCC4K and will be using it for a micro feature film. I am using the Sirui Anamorphic series lenses and wanted to know what settings do you think would be best to use because the constant bit VS Quality has me. Would Quality Q5 as you mentioned be great for a cinematic film?
Hi, nice video!. I have one question. If possible to record or get bad quality images or frames using unsuitable sd cards? Im my case, I have a BMPC 6k Pro with Sigma 18-35 f1.8 and sometimes I don´t like the final result, the final quality. I´m using a sd card that in theory, allow me to record up to 4k in high quality (q0). There is no freeze in the frames or dropsframe, so i guest that the sd card can write all this info.. but my question is.. even if the card can write the data, if the card is no good enough, could affect the image quality? . Thanks.
I'm not so sure that braw is using frame interpolation, meaning that it doesn't get affected by the movement in a scene like a h.264 codec for example. But it does get affected by the total amount of information detail in a scene. A scene mostly showcasing a large smooth wall, will take less space than a scene with trees, but that happens because trees need a higher bitrate due to higher detail in every single frame. It kinda works like jpeg compression.
At the end of the day, variable bit rate in camera and in post can not only save HD space, but also result in higher quality since the peaks are essentially not limited. Whether the BRAW is using *Motion compensation* _ie inter-frame, not intra-frame_ , or some form of *discrete cosine transform* is mostly irrelevant to the majority of us. I think *Michael* is hitting the key points in this video by providing value to those who need it. Those debating the _previous_ points probably don't need this info anyway.
Constant Quality vs Constant bitrate. How does the noise dancing changes? Is it the same or do you get less compression noise with constant bitrate? Or is it more noise because frames constantlly switch pixels? And how does the chromatic noise different between he different ratios?
Thanks mate👍 I use a BMPCC4K and some of the work I do I have to send it in to the main office via Hightail file share platform, so I like to keep them as small as I can. Quality doesn’t matter that much. Again, thanks!!
Hello budy, how are you ? which bmpcc is in which update? because I saw that you are using the Samsung T7 SSD I tried to use it but it doesn't work here on my 4k bmpcc my update is at 6.9
I just bought this camera not long ago. It only shoots in 1-3 second clips on my 64gb SD card on 6k. Is this because of the card size? or some other reason...
Not card size. Card speed. You need a very fast SD card to film in higher resolutions and frame rates. Look at blackmagics memory card guide for what cards are recommended to use with the 6K. I personally like filming with the T5 SSDs. Best bang for the buck.
On a T5 SSD? With that you can record in any frame rate, resolution or codec and it’ll do just fine. Even 6K 50fps 3:1. If you’re asking about your SD card, I’m not sure it depends on your cards specs.
My Samsung t7 (1TB) won’t 1shoot 6k BRAW. I tried 6k 3:1, 5:1, 8:1 &12:1. It films for like .22 of a second then it cuts. But the camera says it can film for like 30 minutes. I even tried Q0 and it films for like .20 seconds. I did Q5 and it did like 1 second. Now, how’s it say it does 1050mbs speed? This is the second T7 I got thinking the first one was fucked up. But nope... so how do I use it on my bmpcc 6k? Even pro res HQ it won’t film well at 4k. Wth...
blackmagic is using a confusing terminology one would expect that constant quality will offer the best quality, while in reality is the constant bitrate that does it
Right conclusion, but incorrect explanation and poor test/demo. You should compare handheld with busy detalied outdoor & high dynamic range contrast scenes for Q5.
4:02 killed me 🤣 Brilliant video mate!
Second time I watched this video didn't realize the point you made in this video but now that I had questions surrounding this issue I now understand these particular settings CLEARLY. So thank you for this.
I did your DVR course and you mention the Q5 setting and your default. Are you still riding this bus?
Yup! Q5 since day 1 here haha if you do VFX stuff then Q0 or 3:1 can be worth it but for most shooters I think Q5 is best balance
Love this. Liked and subscribed!
Yo question what is the size of your image are u using letterbox ?
really great inf. question, so for chroma keying the setting Q0 would be better then Q5 (visual effects)
This is so helpful. Thank you! 🙏🏼
Hey man thanks for this upload. You have a new subscriber. I just picked up a BMPCC4K and will be using it for a micro feature film. I am using the Sirui Anamorphic series lenses and wanted to know what settings do you think would be best to use because the constant bit VS Quality has me. Would Quality Q5 as you mentioned be great for a cinematic film?
What is "detail sharpening" option in settings? İs it work?
Great video man! Well done. Very concise and informative. Thank you
Hi, nice video!. I have one question. If possible to record or get bad quality images or frames using unsuitable sd cards? Im my case, I have a BMPC 6k Pro with Sigma 18-35 f1.8 and sometimes I don´t like the final result, the final quality. I´m using a sd card that in theory, allow me to record up to 4k in high quality (q0). There is no freeze in the frames or dropsframe, so i guest that the sd card can write all this info.. but my question is.. even if the card can write the data, if the card is no good enough, could affect the image quality? . Thanks.
Thank you. Very helpful!
I'm not so sure that braw is using frame interpolation, meaning that it doesn't get affected by the movement in a scene like a h.264 codec for example. But it does get affected by the total amount of information detail in a scene. A scene mostly showcasing a large smooth wall, will take less space than a scene with trees, but that happens because trees need a higher bitrate due to higher detail in every single frame. It kinda works like jpeg compression.
At the end of the day, variable bit rate in camera and in post can not only save HD space, but also result in higher quality since the peaks are essentially not limited. Whether the BRAW is using *Motion compensation* _ie inter-frame, not intra-frame_ , or some form of *discrete cosine transform* is mostly irrelevant to the majority of us. I think *Michael* is hitting the key points in this video by providing value to those who need it. Those debating the _previous_ points probably don't need this info anyway.
I have Constant Quality / Q5 / and what Compression you recommend? 5:1, 8:1?
You got his shirt! Epic! And a great topic that is very relevant to me. Can u do one going live with the black magic?
Constant Quality vs Constant bitrate. How does the noise dancing changes? Is it the same or do you get less compression noise with constant bitrate? Or is it more noise because frames constantlly switch pixels? And how does the chromatic noise different between he different ratios?
Thanks mate👍 I use a BMPCC4K and some of the work I do I have to send it in to the main office via Hightail file share platform, so I like to keep them as small as I can. Quality doesn’t matter that much.
Again, thanks!!
Little NF like beat going on, i dig it bro!
Hello budy, how are you ? which bmpcc is in which update? because I saw that you are using the Samsung T7 SSD I tried to use it but it doesn't work here on my 4k bmpcc my update is at 6.9
Actually using T5s on mine. I’ve heard issues on the T7s but haven’t tried it yet! Sorry!
@@initialfocus correct, T7 doesn't work on BMPCC 4K
getting my BMPCC soon and was freaking out about storing files but now I guess Im a little less worried about the file sizes being enormous
I've always shot in 12:1 but now I'm definitely going to try Q5 to save storage.
I would definitely recommend testing it out to see how you like it!
@@initialfocus interesting i shoot in 12:1 i think i will have at least a few settings at Q5 thanks too
Is the T7 SSD compatible with the BMPCC 4k or 6k?
No
NO
nice highlights
Have you ever tried the juggler 1TB ssd? I’m super interested because it can shoot 6K raw files at 50 and 60fps. 1000mb write rate.
I just bought this camera not long ago. It only shoots in 1-3 second clips on my 64gb SD card on 6k. Is this because of the card size? or some other reason...
Not card size. Card speed. You need a very fast SD card to film in higher resolutions and frame rates. Look at blackmagics memory card guide for what cards are recommended to use with the 6K. I personally like filming with the T5 SSDs. Best bang for the buck.
@@initialfocus Thank you v much this helps a to. How long can I expect to film in lets say 6k on 8:1 ?
On a T5 SSD? With that you can record in any frame rate, resolution or codec and it’ll do just fine. Even 6K 50fps 3:1. If you’re asking about your SD card, I’m not sure it depends on your cards specs.
What you're essentially saying is that CQ uses interframe compression. I'm quite skeptical. Do you have a source for that?
usually use QB 5:1 or 8:1. Gonna try the QC Q5 next time.
You should put a link to your second channel in the description. I shoot everything 8:1 for the most part.
My Samsung t7 (1TB) won’t 1shoot 6k BRAW. I tried 6k 3:1, 5:1, 8:1 &12:1. It films for like .22 of a second then it cuts. But the camera says it can film for like 30 minutes. I even tried Q0 and it films for like .20 seconds. I did Q5 and it did like 1 second. Now, how’s it say it does 1050mbs speed? This is the second T7 I got thinking the first one was fucked up. But nope... so how do I use it on my bmpcc 6k? Even pro res HQ it won’t film well at 4k. Wth...
t7 doesn't work t5 does . I also found out the hard way
The touch screen of my blackmagic pocket 4k has been stopped working anyone to help please
Great videos man! Thanks for sharing info you spent your time gattering...ignore the assholes, keep up the good work!
blackmagic is using a confusing terminology
one would expect that constant quality will offer the best quality, while in reality is the constant bitrate that does it
Right conclusion, but incorrect explanation and poor test/demo. You should compare handheld with busy detalied outdoor & high dynamic range contrast scenes for Q5.
Constant Quality Q5 for me. I alternate between 8:1 and 5:1 depending on what I'm shooting.
Luis Bazan What should I use for a short film?
Did he say "Bra footage"?
BRAW footage! 😂😂😂
@@initialfocus I knew what you were talking about - it was funny that you said that about the same time as the girl came into frame.
@@initialfocus I am getting ready to buy pcc4k and I am thinking I will shoot in either 8:1 or Q5 most of the time. Thanks for the video.
your chair is in focus, and you're not :)
Dope video. . . But you don't seem to pay attention to your gear.
Your lighting is very distracting
All these guys with bmpcc just filming themselves, talking about bmpcc. How many static one shot bmpcc videos can TH-cam rack up? 👌