South Bend in name only. If it ain't got 3 vee's in the bed, it ain't a born and bred South Bend. Long live Monarch, Hendey , American, LeBlond and Cincinnati.
most of those lathes are produced in the far east as well, I wish they still made south bend here in indiana, called the toolroom standard back in the day, that said there are many manufactures and machine builders here in the usa still, but not really the semi manual lathes, though bridgeports are still maid by wells index in michagan, and hardege in new england, and smaller shapers for making gears and inside cuts yes there are at least 2 that still do they are cnc versions though, and you got all kinds of presses and ironworkers that are, and several machining center makers but you pay up the wazoo for them
@@bigboreracing356 A LeBlond Regal trumps any of those, and they were LeBlond's low end line. That said, a good American made lathe from 50-100 years ago is better than any newly made manual machine. Many of the good ones had replaceable hardened ways.
@@bigboreracing356 a toolroom lathe run by careful machinists is something a sharp or a Kingston will never be, a *toolroom* lathe. The tailstock on a LeBlond Heavy-duty weighs as much as the bed of a new Kingston of comparable size. The apron is twice as wide, and the *replaceable* ways have far more surface area. As for the colchester, they were something clausing sold. They were roughly lathe like. The south bends were very nice for a hobby lathe. A EE Monarch is an absolute work of art, and a L&S Powerturn weighs *twice* what a new Kingston the same size weighs!
These Far Eastern made South Bend branded lathes do still have a bed with three V ways, with two V ways guiding the saddle. It's difficult to see on this video because the guy left that silly great box plonked on the bed. But regardless of the name or where it's made, I still think it's quite a nice machine.
Speedy- I learned your presence on the BR scene in 95 when a guy I encountered donated a two foot high stack of Precision Shooting magazines to me. Read every one of them multiple times before working dominated my life, until a couple of years ago retirement and the internet……and I found your Mentee, Mr. Eric C. I know you are busy. I know you have work stacked up. But you have the skills to do wonderful videos! Come on Senior Speedy, more of this sharing your knowledge. Not how to bughole, you gotta keep some for yourself, but you have probably forgotten more about reloading and shooting than 98.753% of the world’s population is even aware of. More videos, please? P.S. - Shiraz owes you a couple more hats for this killer PR presentation 😂. If you hang with that guy long enough you may be building guitars for relaxation!
Thanks for the video Speedy. I just got my first lathe this past year. Well taken care of Taiwanese belt drive. The best part is it came with a shooter and gunsmith who showed me how to chamber through the headstock using a pusher setup. This week I finished working up loads for my first barrel that I completed last week including profiling, and it's the best shooting barrel I have ever owned....and I am just getting started.
Awesome new lathe Speedy. Keep the content coming so we can learn more about precision shooting. I'm probably too late, but I sent you an email. That hat would look good on my knoggin.
I took Gordy’s class 9 months ago, I would love to learn your method and see more videos. I’m certain time is your issue but it sure would be cool to see it. Congrats on the new Lathe 👍
My first lathe project in 1965 was a set of screwdrivers and a set of light hammers. The lathe was a fully manual Southbend. No comparison to today’s machine. My lathe needs are light and fine. I’ll stick with my 1983 Emco Super-11. Don’t need no stinkin’ readouts….😜. I’m happy to see YOUR dream lathe now sits in your shop! Enjoy!
thats nearly the same as my lathe. I have the Sunmaster TC 1640. The next one down is the TL series I think it is one of them. Sunmaster must make the South Bends
heh yes on the part about being one master in the shop, you must work hand and hand with your tools they make poor masters same with electronics you must control your use and time so as not to become addicted or waste you life away on them or be slave to your phone, and like I say you let you tool get the best of you it will kill you or maime you, you also dont want to abuse them because like an animal it will only take soo much before it comes back at you, a true master handles his tools like they are an extention of his or her own body this is true for a machinest, a warrior or martial artists, or tradesperson with hand tools or blacksmith, and a master works symbioticly with his or her tools and machines, cars, or other vehicles, I am not really there yet with my tools but I can use them more fully for what I need to do, I mean to say I am not instinctive yet but I am pretty good with a bandsaw or dremel tool, the router though and lath for wood you must have a healthy respect for two of the most dangerous in the shop but also most versital for differant jobs.
Meehanite is simply a casting process. It is not the material. A good lathe would have replaceable hardened ways. The angled front way on a LeBlond is by far superior to 90 degree v ways. A wide bed, and an apron that extends past the headstock and tailstock is certainly preferred. A 2 speed quill in the tailstock is also a desired feature. A nice, heavy tailstock with significant length of engagement with the bed, and a deep, gusseted bed for rigidity. For a few thousand dollars, one can purchase a lathe from the golden age of machine tools that would absolutely put any harbor freight level machinery to shame.
Probably a Lodge & Shipley Powerturn, in such a small size. A 2 E Monarch is absolutely unbeatable in a toolroom machine. The Heavy Duty LeBlond's will last for several lifetimes. A Grizzly is worth roughly whatever the scrapyard will pay for unprepared.
static.machinetools.com/uploads/7359534/asset-7674098-image-7934776.jpg One more, a Clausing Colchester, beautiful. I don't know the cost of these, 6-8k maybe? I suppose this company could arrange shipping. The ad says they're good to excellent but I wouldn't know. Or, know how to repair one, but I repair many other things, so maybe. Thanks for your input, you gave me a push that I needed.
Electric motors have 100% torque at any rpm. At least that's what they told me, I have not actually tested it. Next time you bog down a 5hp motor, make a video please.
@@Crypto666 If you understood motors, you would know that a 5hp motor running at 1/5 speed is producing only 1hp. This is exactly the problem with electronic speed control vs mechanical speed control.
@@Crypto666 Some people just quote other sources of information without understanding what they are talking about. It's almost as if you have only owned a single lathe and don't really know how to use it. Let's say I need my lathe to turn a 1" diameter piece of stock. So I need RPM's for about 100sfm. Now I want to turn a different piece of stock with 10" diameter. To achieve 100sfm, I need to reduce rpm's by a factor of 10. If I want to maintain the same tool load, I will also need 10x the torque to deal with the larger radius of the the workpiece. This is why the gear head lathe was invented.
@@patheron7812 So you just went from conflating torque and power, which are two different measures of energy, to giving irrelevant examples of problems no one would experience while turning a small arms barrel. That is so neat. I bet you feel pretty good about yourself?
South Bend in name only. If it ain't got 3 vee's in the bed, it ain't a born and bred South Bend. Long live Monarch, Hendey , American, LeBlond and Cincinnati.
most of those lathes are produced in the far east as well, I wish they still made south bend here in indiana, called the toolroom standard back in the day, that said there are many manufactures and machine builders here in the usa still, but not really the semi manual lathes, though bridgeports are still maid by wells index in michagan, and hardege in new england, and smaller shapers for making gears and inside cuts yes there are at least 2 that still do they are cnc versions though, and you got all kinds of presses and ironworkers that are, and several machining center makers but you pay up the wazoo for them
@@bigboreracing356 A LeBlond Regal trumps any of those, and they were LeBlond's low end line. That said, a good American made lathe from 50-100 years ago is better than any newly made manual machine. Many of the good ones had replaceable hardened ways.
@@bigboreracing356 🤣what role would any of these lathes play in a modern, profitable, manufacturing setting? Nonsense.
@@bigboreracing356 a toolroom lathe run by careful machinists is something a sharp or a Kingston will never be, a *toolroom* lathe. The tailstock on a LeBlond Heavy-duty weighs as much as the bed of a new Kingston of comparable size. The apron is twice as wide, and the *replaceable* ways have far more surface area.
As for the colchester, they were something clausing sold. They were roughly lathe like. The south bends were very nice for a hobby lathe. A EE Monarch is an absolute work of art, and a L&S Powerturn weighs *twice* what a new Kingston the same size weighs!
These Far Eastern made South Bend branded lathes do still have a bed with three V ways, with two V ways guiding the saddle. It's difficult to see on this video because the guy left that silly great box plonked on the bed.
But regardless of the name or where it's made, I still think it's quite a nice machine.
Speedy- I learned your presence on the BR scene in 95 when a guy I encountered donated a two foot high stack of Precision Shooting magazines to me. Read every one of them multiple times before working dominated my life, until a couple of years ago retirement and the internet……and I found your Mentee, Mr. Eric C. I know you are busy. I know you have work stacked up. But you have the skills to do wonderful videos! Come on Senior Speedy, more of this sharing your knowledge. Not how to bughole, you gotta keep some for yourself, but you have probably forgotten more about reloading and shooting than 98.753% of the world’s population is even aware of. More videos, please?
P.S. - Shiraz owes you a couple more hats for this killer PR presentation 😂. If you hang with that guy long enough you may be building guitars for relaxation!
Thanks for the video Speedy. I just got my first lathe this past year. Well taken care of Taiwanese belt drive. The best part is it came with a shooter and gunsmith who showed me how to chamber through the headstock using a pusher setup. This week I finished working up loads for my first barrel that I completed last week including profiling, and it's the best shooting barrel I have ever owned....and I am just getting started.
Great presentation Speedy. Looks like a Great start to the new year.
Very nice lathe.
Thanks for sharing.
Have a great day.
Thanks for giving us a look now I want one!
Great video on your new lathe. Keep the videos coming.
Great video Speedy, looking forward to the next video, I'd really like to see your analog+digital interface process.
Thanks for sharing! I look forward to more videos!
Awesome new lathe Speedy. Keep the content coming so we can learn more about precision shooting. I'm probably too late, but I sent you an email. That hat would look good on my knoggin.
I took Gordy’s class 9 months ago, I would love to learn your method and see more videos. I’m certain time is your issue but it sure would be cool to see it. Congrats on the new Lathe 👍
Agreed, I also took Gordy's class and would love to see your method as well
Nice looking lathe!
My first lathe project in 1965 was a set of screwdrivers and a set of light hammers. The lathe was a fully manual Southbend. No comparison to today’s machine. My lathe needs are light and fine. I’ll stick with my 1983 Emco Super-11. Don’t need no stinkin’ readouts….😜. I’m happy to see YOUR dream lathe now sits in your shop! Enjoy!
Great video speedy
I prefer old iron refurbished , to new specs .
speedy just curious if you tried a precision mathews and if so what was wrong with it?
It’s good to hear from you speedy
Speedy would you be able to make expander mandrels to go from .308 to .429 in a 2 inch space multiple mandrels is fine wanting to make a 44-06 case?
speedy, I love you man.
Meehanite sounds nice ... but there are lathes with hardened tool steel ways.
So it's been five months, how are you liking the new machine ? We need an update video.
Very entertaining
thats nearly the same as my lathe. I have the Sunmaster TC 1640. The next one down is the TL series I think it is one of them. Sunmaster must make the South Bends
V ways no v ways its not the machine that counts its the man running it.
Lol Spot on, just add Hardinge TRL !
Great Vid👍👍👍👍👍👍🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
The effort men will go to for an extra inch.
Nice machine.. the Sharp looked brand new.. I hope you donate it to Steve L. Aint he down in your part of the world now?
I like my shopmaster 17 x ? It is cnc mach 3
Definitely got a sub from me!
No electronic Leadscrew????😢
heh yes on the part about being one master in the shop, you must work hand and hand with your tools they make poor masters same with electronics you must control your use and time so as not to become addicted or waste you life away on them or be slave to your phone, and like I say you let you tool get the best of you it will kill you or maime you, you also dont want to abuse them because like an animal it will only take soo much before it comes back at you, a true master handles his tools like they are an extention of his or her own body this is true for a machinest, a warrior or martial artists, or tradesperson with hand tools or blacksmith, and a master works symbioticly with his or her tools and machines, cars, or other vehicles, I am not really there yet with my tools but I can use them more fully for what I need to do, I mean to say I am not instinctive yet but I am pretty good with a bandsaw or dremel tool, the router though and lath for wood you must have a healthy respect for two of the most dangerous in the shop but also most versital for differant jobs.
Cazenueva is the best
No other lathe compares !!!
Meehanite is simply a casting process. It is not the material. A good lathe would have replaceable hardened ways. The angled front way on a LeBlond is by far superior to 90 degree v ways. A wide bed, and an apron that extends past the headstock and tailstock is certainly preferred. A 2 speed quill in the tailstock is also a desired feature. A nice, heavy tailstock with significant length of engagement with the bed, and a deep, gusseted bed for rigidity.
For a few thousand dollars, one can purchase a lathe from the golden age of machine tools that would absolutely put any harbor freight level machinery to shame.
@@bigboreracing356 I'd give that for another 25" Heavy Duty in serviceable shape, if it was at least 25' between centers and didn't have servo shift.
@@bigboreracing356 I sure as hell wouldn't pay 14k for some Taiwanese scrap.
@@bigboreracing356 I could buy a junk Mazak for that🤣
@@bigboreracing356 I could buy a good Regal for $500, still a better machine than a Colchester.
@@bigboreracing356 at surplus auctions, yes. All the time.
Coffee 😂😂😂
Hey, i know this guy 😂
Probably a Lodge & Shipley Powerturn, in such a small size. A 2 E Monarch is absolutely unbeatable in a toolroom machine. The Heavy Duty LeBlond's will last for several lifetimes.
A Grizzly is worth roughly whatever the scrapyard will pay for unprepared.
Where does one find these machines, and how does one go about identifying a good one from the rest?
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I found this 70 year old beauty. Is it a good one?
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You're right. This one place has many.
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LeBlond
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One more, a Clausing Colchester, beautiful. I don't know the cost of these, 6-8k maybe? I suppose this company could arrange shipping. The ad says they're good to excellent but I wouldn't know. Or, know how to repair one, but I repair many other things, so maybe. Thanks for your input, you gave me a push that I needed.
I'm not a fan of anything EVS. Mechanical variable speed multiplies torque, gear head lathes multiply torque at lower rpm, EVS does not.
Electric motors have 100% torque at any rpm. At least that's what they told me, I have not actually tested it. Next time you bog down a 5hp motor, make a video please.
@@Crypto666 If you understood motors, you would know that a 5hp motor running at 1/5 speed is producing only 1hp. This is exactly the problem with electronic speed control vs mechanical speed control.
@@patheron7812 you might want to read up on the difference between torque and power. The internet just produced another one.
@@Crypto666 Some people just quote other sources of information without understanding what they are talking about. It's almost as if you have only owned a single lathe and don't really know how to use it. Let's say I need my lathe to turn a 1" diameter piece of stock. So I need RPM's for about 100sfm. Now I want to turn a different piece of stock with 10" diameter. To achieve 100sfm, I need to reduce rpm's by a factor of 10. If I want to maintain the same tool load, I will also need 10x the torque to deal with the larger radius of the the workpiece. This is why the gear head lathe was invented.
@@patheron7812 So you just went from conflating torque and power, which are two different measures of energy, to giving irrelevant examples of problems no one would experience while turning a small arms barrel. That is so neat. I bet you feel pretty good about yourself?
I hope they gave this thing to you. Kinda sad to waste that toolpost and chuck on such a sad machine.
You must have a small lathe.
It’s a disgrace they call this lathe a South Bend. Bullshit. Just because of that, I would never buy it.