Lots of love from Scotland to all the PEDRO PJs and crews who served in Afghan with us. You got us out of shit many times in helmand (09-12) 👍 even when our own mert couldn't come with tic. To anyone thinking of the career, if I was 16 again I'd emigrate to do that job, top pros....but Recce is awesome too (from a brit recon guy) "Recce do it in front of everyone".
Damn I’ve had my mind set on PJ but SR sounded intriguing and there wasn’t a ton of information. I know they’re leaning towards more general SW contracts, but that makes me more open to it honestly. Love how it breaks off into two possible branches for the SR, idk makes it a real tough decision.
SR has definitely peaked my interest! Been following it ever since the change was announced a couple months ago, and this has just got me even more excited about it. Great stuff, Brian!
11:37 --- "Oh crap, maybe I should preface this with a CYA statement..." That's consistently the most fun moment in every SOF interview I've ever seen.
Been looking forward to this EDIT: After watching the video it's interesting the amount of information he cannot share as if he signed a non-disclosure agreement. I understand there's a clearance required, but by civilian he basically means you'll be working with three letter government agencies that may require additional intelligence operatives in the field or in a base of operations for military support. The scout/sniper school sounded like a very open ended answer with no plans to officially make it part of the standard pipeline, but - like all special operations - if you can prove to your commander that the training would make you better enough at your job for the cost and there's a slot open - You should be good to go. Demolitions was mentioned with the official AFSOC description - Yet, it wasnt discussed at any point. It seems as though this defaults to the same as the scout/sniper school where former SOWT guys with STS/Army units with environmental intel would be best suited to train in utilizing explosives to shape the battlefield like Army combat engineers. Overall, it sounds like official changes are coming and stand-by. Otherwise, you're going through A&S like everyone else and going through a similar initial pipeline as everyone else and will be utilized by the air force to provide multiple aspects of intel to units and improve the efficacy of the Air Force's combat air solutions so that CCT and PJs can better execute their mission. One big, standardized, happy family
Thank you How to be a PJ and Sgt. Seegmiller! I've been waiting since before I even enlisted in the Air Force for a career field like this to come up! This has made my week knowing this is now a thing and getting as much info about this as I can so thank you both so much for this!!!
When can you you move your family during the pipeline? I assume the first PCS will be to Hurlburt but on your website it says you may be at Pope for 6 months. Also, I know PJ's PCS pretty early to Kirtland and just do TDY until they get there. Not sure if it's the same for the SR pipeline. Love your content, thank you and keep it up!
I heard there's a certain point you do get to move your family in with the pipeline. After basic and after like Indoc and jump school idrk. Basically 1/4 or 1/3 through of the pipeline I know they get to move in.
In regards to the 123rd STS in Kentucky, I’ve been told they are only accepting people into SR if they are non prior service OR already an active duty SR looking to transition into the Air Guard. Not sure about the Portland STS. Anybody have contact info for the Portland STS? I separate in 9 months
Braulio Torres I called the spec ops recruiter in Washington about SR and he told me they take everyone who puts in a good package. I eas next year so they wanted me to put in a transfer package and enlist into it.
Steele Vaz what’s the major difference between TACP and SR? I like the reconnaissance aspect of SR because I would like to be a sniper. But I also don’t want to join and be sitting on the sidelines
@@jorgeestrada2505 yeah you get some long range weapons training of SR but the jobs gonna mainly be recon. You can also play with small uav robots, and some weather tech that you carry on you. So get use to rucking with some weight. Also SR go out and help find landing zones for planes and make sure the weather and terrain or good. Another cool thing SR is implementing is dressing up as a pedestrian and doing recon as a spy almost. TACP's are a leadership position where you are an expert with all weapons, you control air traffic, and drop bombs. There is a difference between a conventional TACP's and SOFT TACP'S. So the jobs are totally different.
matt yawgel on the page called onesready (an SR instructor) on Instagram, they mentioned that SR also does unconventional and guerrilla warfare on top of special reconnaissance, environment recon, and long range interdiction
What's the age limit for this? Air Force website says 39 for SR but I know PJs are 28. Seems weird the age limit would be different. I'm 33 and would love to go SR.
@@David-mg5jx yes I was worried about the age myself. But I looked it up...you can get waivers if you just push and show that motivation that you want it. Are you training now?
Nah, I've heard of guys that are 37 in the pipeline killing it. Case by case basis and def depends on your physical test assessment. You want to blow that shit out the water, not squeaking by barely hitting the minimums.
We all know the difficulties and risks that come with this job, I just want to know one thing at the end of the day is it all worth it? & I’m not talking about money.
Thanks for your content, it is really interesting and rich. However, I see on AF’s website that age requirement is between 18-39 years-old. Did you ever see or trained guys over 30 making it? I understand it takes more the muscles to accomplish the 2+ year training
I'm sure this info is scattered across your podcasts but what numbers should we be close to for each past event to not fail at prep? Pushups Situps Pull ups Run time Swim time? I've been training inconsistently for this career and have no real goal in mind with the workouts. Of course, I have to beat the past first but I'd really like to know what numbers to pursue! I'm in a painful process with the SG right now, was a 30 day wait and now am waiting 60 days.... I have plenty of time to train but the uncertainty of whether or not I can join really has killed the motivation to train. So any numbers help, thanks.
I went on the Be A PJ website and found this for you: Pushups: >60 in under 2 mins Sit-ups:>62 in under 2 mins Pull ups: >18 in under 10 minutes Run time: 2 miles in under 10 minutes Swim time: 500m freestyle swim in under 10 minutes I don’t know what you mean by painful process with the SG...but I hope you realize this is the absolute minimum for being able to get your “foot in the door,” so they say. Get used to ruck matching with over 100 lbs on your person. If you haven’t ruck marched at all, I would suggest starting slow (25-35lbs) to avoid back injury/further delaying your ability to train harder and better. Good luck.
Crazy how before it was SOWT and I wanted NOTHING to do with it. Then they change the name to SR and I’m like 😧. Air Force hired the Army’s new HR guy. Air Force is going to get flooded with Marines.
@@стрелок-ч7р very bad. You have to be fast and cannot stop. Imagine if you stopped in the real world, you would fail the mission and die. The training these guys go through has to prepare them for real behind enemy lines shit.
Yes, all combat roles throughout the military to include special operations (Pararescue, CCT, SR, SEALs, Rangers, etc.) are open to women as of January 2016. At this moment all women who have tried have been unsuccessful getting into special operations though. So it would be historic moment for the first woman, she will definitely be a beast.
Sorry if that sounded really cocky 😂 I want to save lives and serve my country and when I came across the Pararescue career I knew it would be challenging and push me not only out of my comfort zone but push all my limits and help me face some of my fears. I have always wanted to go into the medical career because there is no higher reward than saving a life. That’s how I know this job is what I want to do. ♥️
@@allywh5074 it is good to believe in yourself, but as was mentioned in the video, those who talked the loudest didn't get very far. It's not about what you say, it's about what you do. As the saying goes, Will it into existence and of course Burn the Boats.
So maybe a small portion Tier 1 but not on a CAG, DEVGRU level. I mean, you’re on TH-cam. I’d look for it to be a CCT type capability career field with more counter intell driven training maybe? That- in the woods stalking shit is recon and cav scout 1st base. Certainly that’s not all. Is that too far off? Because to me a CCT guy with a Recon badge from the USAF is more or less a Raider with a radio right!?!
Sweet, been looking for more info on SR
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Lots of love from Scotland to all the PEDRO PJs and crews who served in Afghan with us. You got us out of shit many times in helmand (09-12) 👍 even when our own mert couldn't come with tic. To anyone thinking of the career, if I was 16 again I'd emigrate to do that job, top pros....but Recce is awesome too (from a brit recon guy) "Recce do it in front of everyone".
It's awesome to see how excited these guys are, the grins say it all. The leash just came off.
Damn I’ve had my mind set on PJ but SR sounded intriguing and there wasn’t a ton of information. I know they’re leaning towards more general SW contracts, but that makes me more open to it honestly. Love how it breaks off into two possible branches for the SR, idk makes it a real tough decision.
Same story here- I've been super into PJ for a long time but SR now sounds very intriguing
@Tsukoyomi Light no
Did any of you even watch the video
At the end you have to chase what you’re passionate about.
SR has definitely peaked my interest! Been following it ever since the change was announced a couple months ago, and this has just got me even more excited about it. Great stuff, Brian!
Same I never thought about special warfare until I heard about special reconnaissance
11:37 ---
"Oh crap, maybe I should preface this with a CYA statement..."
That's consistently the most fun moment in every SOF interview I've ever seen.
How have I missed this video!!! I type in usaf special recon every week. Thanks for the video. Keep them coming.
Been looking forward to this
EDIT: After watching the video it's interesting the amount of information he cannot share as if he signed a non-disclosure agreement. I understand there's a clearance required, but by civilian he basically means you'll be working with three letter government agencies that may require additional intelligence operatives in the field or in a base of operations for military support.
The scout/sniper school sounded like a very open ended answer with no plans to officially make it part of the standard pipeline, but - like all special operations - if you can prove to your commander that the training would make you better enough at your job for the cost and there's a slot open - You should be good to go.
Demolitions was mentioned with the official AFSOC description - Yet, it wasnt discussed at any point. It seems as though this defaults to the same as the scout/sniper school where former SOWT guys with STS/Army units with environmental intel would be best suited to train in utilizing explosives to shape the battlefield like Army combat engineers.
Overall, it sounds like official changes are coming and stand-by. Otherwise, you're going through A&S like everyone else and going through a similar initial pipeline as everyone else and will be utilized by the air force to provide multiple aspects of intel to units and improve the efficacy of the Air Force's combat air solutions so that CCT and PJs can better execute their mission. One big, standardized, happy family
@NOT 8 BIT lol! Funny guy.
I am considering the SR track; this answered so much!
Thank you How to be a PJ and Sgt. Seegmiller! I've been waiting since before I even enlisted in the Air Force for a career field like this to come up! This has made my week knowing this is now a thing and getting as much info about this as I can so thank you both so much for this!!!
If SR, CCT, and PJ go through selection together, do they have the same water confidence? Would a SR guy go through buddy breathing for instance?
Yep.
They all need to meet tge Spec Ops qualifications. That includes swim
@@Cvglevi123 They go to Dive School
Levi Anthony yes
With similar qualification schools like dive, airborne, & mff I wonder if any PJs will crosstrain to SR and vice versa
Great info. Plan on cross training from Secfo to this !
This was very informative. Thank you.
When can you you move your family during the pipeline? I assume the first PCS will be to Hurlburt but on your website it says you may be at Pope for 6 months. Also, I know PJ's PCS pretty early to Kirtland and just do TDY until they get there. Not sure if it's the same for the SR pipeline. Love your content, thank you and keep it up!
I heard there's a certain point you do get to move your family in with the pipeline. After basic and after like Indoc and jump school idrk. Basically 1/4 or 1/3 through of the pipeline I know they get to move in.
Would coming in with language skills be useful for this career field/will the career field involve humint?
If your looking to do this kind of work a language never hurts
Gabe Cota Plus you can get a pay bump
Language skills are good in any branch
Is there gonna a Guard and Reserve component like the PJs have?
Xavier Ramos Yes there is. Both the US AIR Force Reserve and the Air National Guard have PJ,CCT. Only the Air Guard has TACP
OC Don’t quote me but I got the impression that SR will be incorporated into ST SQUADRONS.
I’m excited.
What asvab score is needed? Also, is SR a field you can choose or do they just throw you in whatever when you go through selection?
470
So, just how much of a chance does SR have of getting a sniper slot or cross-service training, ie. Army Ranger school?
I would also like to know this.
Being a Spec Ops it be feasible, several conventional AF members have gone through ranger school.
Sweet !
Awesome
Can you see family during training pipeline?
Tsukoyomi Light Not really an option with those of us with wives and/or children.
Great video! Quick random question, will the beret color still be grey?
David Crespo oh yes
In regards to the 123rd STS in Kentucky, I’ve been told they are only accepting people into SR if they are non prior service OR already an active duty SR looking to transition into the Air Guard. Not sure about the Portland STS. Anybody have contact info for the Portland STS?
I separate in 9 months
Look at the description box in the next video "Pararescue Guard and Reserve Interview" it has a link to unit POCs. The 125th I believe.
Braulio Torres I called the spec ops recruiter in Washington about SR and he told me they take everyone who puts in a good package. I eas next year so they wanted me to put in a transfer package and enlist into it.
I’d love it if someone could reach out to me about what this would look like if one is married and has kids
Im at sw prep right now and have been through a few briefings about sr, pj, tacp, and cct if you have any questions
Steele Vaz what’s the major difference between TACP and SR? I like the reconnaissance aspect of SR because I would like to be a sniper. But I also don’t want to join and be sitting on the sidelines
@@jorgeestrada2505 yeah you get some long range weapons training of SR but the jobs gonna mainly be recon. You can also play with small uav robots, and some weather tech that you carry on you. So get use to rucking with some weight. Also SR go out and help find landing zones for planes and make sure the weather and terrain or good. Another cool thing SR is implementing is dressing up as a pedestrian and doing recon as a spy almost. TACP's are a leadership position where you are an expert with all weapons, you control air traffic, and drop bombs. There is a difference between a conventional TACP's and SOFT TACP'S. So the jobs are totally different.
Probably a dumb question, but is SR going to be a new LRRP, recondo type element?
@@derianschmidt7252 yes but sr is gonna be much more
@scotiansen i have a swoe contract
so is SR going to be like recon in the marine corps? are they going to have direct action missions, etc?
matt yawgel good question. I would also like to know the answer. And to add on, will they be doing maritime missions? Or focus on land only
matt yawgel on the page called onesready (an SR instructor) on Instagram, they mentioned that SR also does unconventional and guerrilla warfare on top of special reconnaissance, environment recon, and long range interdiction
They have direct action, don't know how much
No. There are plenty of other units that specifically do DA so they will not be tasked for those operations.
matt yawgel they do direct action, guerrilla ware fare, sniping, and they clear air fields.
How long is assessment and selection in days?
juan habic last class was 2.5 weeks for everyone pj, CCT, sr for A&S with no weekends
Does anyone know the vision requirements?
Jim Prestigious most likely a minimum of 20/70 correctable to 20/20
And you must have depth perception. If not its auto fail
@B same 20/400 but a spec ops recruiter told me you can get waivers, especially because the airforce offers things like laser eye surgery
After SR can I join ISA is it possible? 🤔
What's the age limit for this? Air Force website says 39 for SR but I know PJs are 28. Seems weird the age limit would be different. I'm 33 and would love to go SR.
@Tsukoyomi Light talked to a special operations recruiter for the Air Force today and said the age limit was still 39, same as SOWT.
@Tsukoyomi Light SR
@@David-mg5jx yes I was worried about the age myself. But I looked it up...you can get waivers if you just push and show that motivation that you want it. Are you training now?
Nah, I've heard of guys that are 37 in the pipeline killing it. Case by case basis and def depends on your physical test assessment. You want to blow that shit out the water, not squeaking by barely hitting the minimums.
We all know the difficulties and risks that come with this job, I just want to know one thing at the end of the day is it all worth it? & I’m not talking about money.
I understand duty station assignment is never guaranteed. But what are my chances of being stationed in Washington state if I enlist as SR?
Not really qualified to answer but I'm going to say the bases with an AFSOC mission set like hurlburt field, FL, will be available to AFSOC careers.
Thanks for your content, it is really interesting and rich. However, I see on AF’s website that age requirement is between 18-39 years-old. Did you ever see or trained guys over 30 making it? I understand it takes more the muscles to accomplish the 2+ year training
I didn't know Jon Seda was an operator. (AKA Antonio Dawson)
Great video!
Probably a dumb and obvious question but why is this career field top secret?
Is an SR technically special operations
They are operate under AFSOC so yes they are
@@patrickhanna3076 Is mayonnaise an instrument?
@@dogestranding5047 Yes, yes it is
Yes, SOWT is Special Operations.
@Tsukoyomi Light Yes duhh...
I'm sure this info is scattered across your podcasts but what numbers should we be close to for each past event to not fail at prep?
Pushups
Situps
Pull ups
Run time
Swim time?
I've been training inconsistently for this career and have no real goal in mind with the workouts. Of course, I have to beat the past first but I'd really like to know what numbers to pursue!
I'm in a painful process with the SG right now, was a 30 day wait and now am waiting 60 days.... I have plenty of time to train but the uncertainty of whether or not I can join really has killed the motivation to train. So any numbers help, thanks.
I went on the Be A PJ website and found this for you:
Pushups: >60 in under 2 mins
Sit-ups:>62 in under 2 mins
Pull ups: >18 in under 10 minutes
Run time: 2 miles in under 10 minutes
Swim time: 500m freestyle swim in under 10 minutes
I don’t know what you mean by painful process with the SG...but I hope you realize this is the absolute minimum for being able to get your “foot in the door,” so they say. Get used to ruck matching with over 100 lbs on your person. If you haven’t ruck marched at all, I would suggest starting slow (25-35lbs) to avoid back injury/further delaying your ability to train harder and better. Good luck.
Crazy how before it was SOWT and I wanted NOTHING to do with it.
Then they change the name to SR and I’m like 😧. Air Force hired the Army’s new HR guy.
Air Force is going to get flooded with Marines.
Plenty of ground pounders during the pipeline switched over to PJ, cct and sowt.. unfortunately not many make it due to the water portion of training
@@theindivisible how bad is the water portion?
@@стрелок-ч7р very bad. You have to be fast and cannot stop. Imagine if you stopped in the real world, you would fail the mission and die. The training these guys go through has to prepare them for real behind enemy lines shit.
what’s tier 1?
The units that are under jsoc
Seeker thanks
Look up 24 STS
Hey do you know Lucas Gough?
Hello I know this is off topic but can women become PJ’s now?
Yes, all combat roles throughout the military to include special operations (Pararescue, CCT, SR, SEALs, Rangers, etc.) are open to women as of January 2016. At this moment all women who have tried have been unsuccessful getting into special operations though. So it would be historic moment for the first woman, she will definitely be a beast.
Jay P thank you so much! can’t wait to be that woman 💪
Sorry if that sounded really cocky 😂 I want to save lives and serve my country and when I came across the Pararescue career I knew it would be challenging and push me not only out of my comfort zone but push all my limits and help me face some of my fears. I have always wanted to go into the medical career because there is no higher reward than saving a life. That’s how I know this job is what I want to do. ♥️
@@allywh5074 it is good to believe in yourself, but as was mentioned in the video, those who talked the loudest didn't get very far. It's not about what you say, it's about what you do. As the saying goes, Will it into existence and of course Burn the Boats.
Jay P thank you so much for your advice, I tend to follow it.
More content!!
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Dont touch me bro- theo von Brendan schuab
I'm 👻
this might be a stupid question but do SR guys see a decent amount of action as well bcs if so I want this job
If your job is anything with "recon" in it, if you are seeing action you have messed up your task.
Most likely. They also do direct action along with sniping and clearing air fields.
@@thomastucker2774 what do you mean clearing air fields?
The Spaniard they find airfields for planes to land and stuff
Do people in SR engage in combat?
Considering they undergo 6 months of special tactics training, probably
Ik Marine Recon isn’t part of SOCOM but since they are SOF qualified, is there any similarities in mission set between Marine Recon and SR?
TACP one day?
Yea no.
Yea
I don’t want to even talk about sfas
So maybe a small portion Tier 1 but not on a CAG, DEVGRU level. I mean, you’re on TH-cam. I’d look for it to be a CCT type capability career field with more counter intell driven training maybe? That- in the woods stalking shit is recon and cav scout 1st base. Certainly that’s not all. Is that too far off? Because to me a CCT guy with a Recon badge from the USAF is more or less a Raider with a radio right!?!
All spec ops jobs are not cag or devgru level. They have to be selected to try out to get to that level, tier 1..
CCT is more than a "Radio guy" they are FAA certified Air Traffic Controllers
CCT’s often get placed in DEVGRU or CAG units to supplement air power. It’s mainly 24th STS guys who get that opportunity though.
Bout time we get new videos!!
Does anybody know the ASVAB requirements for this job?
kenneth fernandez you have to score pretty high on the Electronics Section.
A minimum of 70.