This is called the 'square-cube law,' and it is one of the most important concepts when discussing form and behaviour of life at different scales. It's why hummingbird wings are stubby and albatross wings are way longer than their bodies. In addition to not being able to breathe, Antman would be more affected by static electricity than gravity, sticking to walls and not able to take steps.
@@StanSlaughter Mate what are you on about? Tyrannosaurus had extremely large, muscular legs, which would have been absolutely necessary to support the body of the largest land predator on record. Chickens have membranous wings, and feathers covering their whole bodies. Tyrannosaurus do not; they are not avian. Their pelvic structures are the second largest skeletal structures in their bodies behind their skulls. Their pelvic bones are longer than they are wide in order to even have enough attachment points to support their massive thigh muscles. Their tails are as long and muscular as they are just to help counterbalance the rest of their bulk and to make space for those leg muscles. Their legs have the largest size to body size ratio of any theropod. Have you ever even seen what a chicken's legs look like?
As well as everything the above commenter said, I would like to point out that t-rexes did have hollow bones, and were a lot lighter for their size than elephants as a result. T-rexes were bigger than elephants, but actually weighed about the same, possibly a little less.
This is actually kind of true. Genetically, well-endowed men tend to be from groups of people with predominantly large badonk women. The poking stick must be long enough to poke.
[Size changes in 3 dimensions but muscle cross-section only changes in 2 dimensions.] It is absolutely brilliant how she explained it in such simple terms.
Maybe I'm dense but that made no sense to me. Any 3D object can be sliced and its cross section will be in 2 dimensions. But that won't take into account the fact that it gets longer in the Z axis too. So it still grows in 3 dimensions...
@SWIFTzTrigger Yes, I agree. You're being dense. As she explained, the contractile strength of the muscle is predominantly dependent on it's cross sectonal area, and not on it's length. So, the fact that the muscle gets longer doesn't add any appreciable increase in strength, because it's the increase in cross sectional area that's important. Consider a steel bar. What would make it harder to bend? 1) if it was twice as long, or 2) if it was twice as thick? As she is trying to explain, it's only increasing the thickness that makes it stronger, and increasing the length doesn't improve its strength. So, although you can increase the bars size in 3 dimensions, it's strength only increases in the 2 dimensions of its cross sectonal area.
Overly simple terms, tbh, but not far from the truth. It's not just cross-sectional muscle area that contributes to strength, it's also the composition of connective tissues and skeletal structures. A lot of the reason an ant is so strong is because its carapace is relatively rigid for its size. It's not that "it's lifting something 10 times its size!" it's that a rigid tube a couple of millimeters long is supporting an object weighing a couple of grams a couple of millimeters off the ground. We would expect a scaled-up organism to be yet weaker than already predicted by the 2D-vs-3D model because its structural elements would be less suited to support it. How could such a large ant efficiently move the nutrients it needed to lift all that weight through such a large body?
What annoyed me more about Ant Man was not him keeping his human-size strength when he was at ant-size, but the scientist shrinking a building and simply putting it in his suitcase all clean as if that building had never been connected to the ground and never had any plumbing or electricity attached to it.
I mean, it's science-fiction. Keyword: fiction. They're amazing fictional scientists that in the logic of their world, probably had the building running on an internal power source and since he has technology that changes the size of things, he could change the size of waste without the need for plumbing outsource and just refills any water needed.
@ThomasTheThermonuclearBomb In the comics, Venom is able to leech some of his mass to an alternate dimension. Perhaps with the logic of their fictional world that contains amazing scientific feats, Hank Pym can do a similar thing since he could do things like access the Quantum Realm.
@@TheDemonCaine Yeah, except it's science-fiction. Keyword: science. Also, "fiction" doesn't mean "fuck the most basic principles of science and narrative coherence." When _you_ as a spectator have to try and come up with explanations for glaringly obvious inconsistencies in the plot because none are provided within the plot, that is called a plot hole, no matter the genre.
It's just as likely that he doesn't have lungs and runs on supernatural brainwave energy bestowed upon him by the magical walrus that lives in the center of Pluto. But that's just the pedant in me.
How nice is to see someone who has a fact based knowlege and talks calmly and confidently about topic. It's almost mesmerising to listen and you automaticly absorb like a sponge..
@@sarcastaball ah, can't admire women for anything other than the fact that they are women, huh? "Oh he said he thinks she has a great way to deliver information. He must want to get her in bed" You're a fucking creep dude
Stan Lee once asked how Superman can fly. The video should be here on TH-cam. He pointed out that Kirby's The Mighty Thor is based on a simple scientific principle where he throws a hammer and then lets the hammer's momentum carry him. I'm not convinced that this actually makes sense. But he rightly pointed out that it doesn't make sense for Superman to fly. Originally, Superman didn't fly, he jumped over tall buildings in a single bound like The Incredible Hulk. It's just that in the TV adaptation it didn't look like a jump, so it memetically mutated into the Superman who can fly in space and shove planets around. Of course this is DC Comics, where Batman can breathe in space. Not like the more grounded Marvel where Iron Man flies straight up into space, ignoring orbital mechanics, until his suit freezes solid in the thermosphere.
@@davidwuhrer6704 And while we're at it, superheroes floating in the air somehow have the purchase to push giant object around or catch a plane or whatever. Like, what are you bracing against, dude?
In case anyone doesn't know, this is an excerpt from the popular British game show, "Scientist Says Science Stuff And Then You Pick Letters Out Of A Hat That Don't Spell Anything".
Sometimes it's quite exciting because you think they're going to spell a swear-word, but then they don't. Bah. (It's called Countdown for anyone who wants to look it up - it's shown when everyone is at work, so is especially popular with uni students, and people who are unemployed but have not yet reached the depths of despair known as "watching reality shows". There's also a ruder, funnier version called "Eight out of ten cats does countdown", which came out of a weird project where Channel 4 was doing mash-ups of two programmes but was so popular they carried on with it. Definitely worth a watch.).
This is actually its sister show 'Statistician Uses Maths To Ruin Childhoods And Then Pick Letters...' etc. She also hosts 'It's Obvious Santa isn't real' and 'Baby Ghosts are just small hankies'
I remember an American cartoon - two characters comment on an ant falling from a ceiling and then walking, apparently normally. They are amazed. Then in the next frame there is a close-up of the ant - looking quite damaged. The ant says, "I hope I can make it to the cemetery."
I get the intent of the comic, it's quite funny. People often ask, "why don't animals get sick from drinking raw water?", well, they do, actually. They just have to deal with it. However, ants are so small that they don't get enough acceleration from gravity to be injured from falling. Many small animals are too small to hurt themselves falling.
@@bluegum6438 As a kid I used to wonder why animals don't get cavities without brushing their teeth. Used to ask myself why humans have such crap teeth. Didn't realize that a mammal's lifespan in the wild is super short and they don't eat processed sugar.
Giraffes already avoid lots of trouble cause no one wants to fight a 2 story animal. Brother a kick from a giraffe can orphan a lion cub in an instant.
Didn't Ant Man show anyone who was shrunk without the suit die instantly? I thought the suit was meant to bypass the problem of not being able to breathe somehow (and I guess also preserve the wearer's temperature), though perhaps even if it could, there may be side effects which the movie glossed over, but it's something to consider.
@@Zodroo_Tint Super-strength is related to super-speed. A 400 lb bear can run 30 miles an hour, that's a 400 lb animal that can knock over trees running faster than the fastest track star who weighs over 200 lbs less than the bear. Force = mass X acceleration, more acceleration means more force.
This is basically how she explained it If these animals or insects where naturally bigger or smaller it would not be the same just like us Shrinking will never exist irl idk why people waste time arguing about fiction
She did the 2019 Royal Institution Christmas Lectures. 3x hour long child-level presentations about maths (so even plebs like us can make sense of it). They’re all archived somewhere so if you can find that then your wish is granted 😂
She explained all that so well. But the Ant man not being able to breath was actually explained. The mask does all that for him. Obviously still not realistic but maybe the people writing an entire paper on it should have done a tiny bit of research.
It wouldn't be enough. The device itself would not be able to supply the oxygen needed. He'd still have the same problem. Read the paper. They did cover it.
@@ripleyhrgiger4669 I was just about to out of spite but I don't care that much. Didn't get that in the video so my comment stands until you can tell me why it couldn't do the job.
@@Mermiam The irony. "They're wrong, and should have done more research" "Actually, they are correct and your contentions are invalid" "I'm not doing more research and am therefore still correct" You are insufferable, sir.
@@hhiippiittyy You made the contention. So back it up. In your little stroppy reply you could have made the claim but instead you get butthurt. This is one of those "Goku can't do what he does because physics" But within the reality he exists in he can. So unless we're talking in our reality, which is stupid because then none of it happens. So pick your poison chief.
That's like surface area vs volume. If you blow up a ball, every time I double its radius, it's surface area has grown by a factor of 4 but its volume by a factor of 8. That means volume grows way faster than surface area and that means the ratio surface area to volume changes the bigger the ball gets, yet this ratio is responsible for many physical properties of objects. That's why things that work with small models will not necessarily work with full size models. That's why a small drop of water can form a ball but a big drop cannot: At some point the surface tension is no longer strong enough to prevent the water inside from breaking through the surface.
Ant-Man wears a suit tho, you could easily explain away all the shortcomings of shrinking a human to the suit giving him oxygen and stuff he needs to survive in a small state!
@@grey_f98 Yes you're right. Nerds are incapable of understanding that a movie can be fictitious, and they are so bad at spotting which parts to laugh at and which parts to ignore. You're much cooler, because you are not a nerd, so you know exactly when to laugh, like when someone is being sarcastic, which you are also very good at spotting because you don't take anything literally.
The point of this isn’t to say Hollywood movies are rubbish because they are unrealistic. The ‘Antman’ premise is just an opportunity to teach some science in an engaging way.
That is a good physics explanation, thank you. Cube law - if you double in size, your cross section quadrupals whereas you become eight times heavier. Now imagine what happens by the time an ant becomes the size of a human. ...and yes, shrinking a human down to the size of an ant, everything within becomes prortionately smaller, including living cells. Which would mean his restpiratory system would not be able to function - the atoms/molecules in the atmosphere would be far too big for his body to process - with all his own atoms/molecules/living cells having been reduced so much in size. However, we are supposed to just enjoy such entertainment, while giving some parental guidence to the children watching with us.
What about the fact that every time he shrinks he has the Ant Man suit and helmet on. Could that be like a scuba suit and provide him with the air he needs. He never shrinks or gets giant without it.
@@donnywilliamson5807 he does though. And not only him. There was the whole lot of them going down to the Quantum Realm (another nonsensical idea, but it's just entertainment, adding some Star Wars vibes to MCU) without the suits, just normal clothes, and being totally fine, breathing, eating, etc.
As a writer for video games (narrative designer, to be precise) I sometimes face similar problems. What people don't seem to understand is that they value scientific accuracy in stories a lot less than they think. There are a lot of hard sci-fi authors - and not a single one of them is as popular as Star Trek or JK Rowling (not saying they are worse ofc). It's just not what they're looking for in a story, most of the time. When people want scientific accuracy, they usually reach for a textbook, or Wikipedia, or a YT video. When watching a movie or playing a game, first and foremost, they want to be entertained. That's what they paid for, and that's what they acfually enjoy. So denying them this enjoyment, a short reprieve from the hardships and realities of life, is basically a breach of the unspoken contract between audience and author. Ofc, it's more complicated than that. It is possible, for some stories, to mix factual accuracy with entertainment - and it's beautiful when it works (e.g. The Expanse). But how many movies, books or games can actually follow this principle? Would The Lord of The Rings benefit from an editor who would change it to perfectly correspond to our understanding of physics or of Scandinavian and Celtic folklore? Does any of that even matter for a story that isn't concerned with magic or science or the nature of reality, like Oliver Twist, or Shakespeare's plays, or even say Shawshank Redemption?
She basically explained the law of the square-cube. If that was taught in all elementary school now all the kaiju battles would appear as ridiculus as the moon being made of cheese.
The square-cube law explains why there can be no kaiju or even giant battlemechs. But those things are cool so fiction writers will just choose ignore that aspect of physics like they already do for lots of things
@@canopener505ify Each night I try and watch all the new videos that have been posted since the previous evening, but somehow I don't think I'll ever be able to catch up
Perhaps, but its an opportunity to teach people some facts. And there are certainly some people that take the hyperbole at face-value. So its important to explain it at least once.
@@wesbecoolthe people who take it at face value lack an internal monologue, meaning they lack critical thought, trying to educate these people when everyone else is just trying to have a laugh is low-key kinda weird. She's the meme of the guy at the party where he's like "they don't know about xyz"
@@bencastor9207 Or maybe she's just a mathematician also having a laugh while also taking the time to educate people on how the world works because she's also a science educator, and you don't have the same sense of humor and are being a judgemental ass, when she fully understands what people mean and also fully understands how fiction works.
I always see people on the internet be like: "Y-yeah, we knew that, we just tried to be fun at party!" - when in reality, no, they didn't. Or, at least, most of them didn't.
The fact that I figured out the strength increase corresponding to a size multiplication by 1000 would be a factor of 100 right before she said it, I'd say is a testament to how nice the explanation is.
Me: Two peanuts were walking down the street, one was a salted. This lady: * cracks her knuckles * Actually, peanuts do not have the capability to talk nor walk. The chances to have two peanuts walking down the street are not only laughable, they are literally none. Me: 🥺
Thankfully Ant Man is too much fun to be ruined by pedantry. The movies explanation of "because tech" is all one should need. Still, interesting stuff.
I don't know how this game works but it certainly seems crazy that they would have this super cogent science education speech and then turn around and play wheel of fortune
Which has nothing to do with what she's talking about. It's not the size of the molecules that's the problem (at least until you get into the movie-verse quantum nonsense where you really need to ignore real world physics to make sense of it), it's the amount of oxygen you can get in a certain volume. What he'd need is not smaller air molecules, he'd need oxygen-enriched air so he can cope with the much smaller lung volume. It's really besides the point though because ant man's powerset obviously doesn't make sense, and I really don't think the writers really were _trying_ to come up with concepts that actually make sense here, the marvel movies are just "shut your brain off and enjoy the spectacle" kinda films not treatises on "how do we represent super powers realistically".
@@hannessteffenhagen61The first Antman movies were kinda more or less consistent in their ficitonalized science. Like how the helmet was very important everytime he shrank, or those scenes where he eventually loses consciousness when he grows. But then comes the sequels where it increasingly becomes more inconsistent and fuk all to its established fictional science like in Quantumania where Scott and his daughter where effortlessly giants with their helmets off.
@@hannessteffenhagen61 antman is never seen shrinking without the helmet, and the helmet has a breathing conponment on the mouth, it would be safe to assume it has a small air tank, antman is never shrinking for more than a few minutes at a time.
...They don't make the comparison to make you believe they could lift a elephant. They do it as a comparison of how it is for the ant to lift what it's lifting. It's a example to make it more understandable. Not a 1 to 1 irl. And if you have a brain you have always known this. Hell, if you paid attention in math biology and physics you know this as a kid.
Wait though, when someone says “if an ant were the size of a human it could lift an elephant”, it’s not said as if that were somehow a possibility. Surely it’s just a hypothetical illustration of how comparatively strong they are. Something like “an ant can lift 50 times its own body weight-that’s like you being able to lift an elephant.”
The problem is that the comparison is made to suggest that ants are incredibly strong, which they are not. They are just very small. When applying an inappropriate scaling operation with respect to strength, one can make them look like they are the "elephant lifters" of their world, but they are not.
If you make humans smaller, they also become incredibly powerful and fast. Ants are not actually super strong and the strenght-scaling works both ways.
@@coolcat23 I have to respectfully disagree. I think the purpose of the trope is to teach a fact along with a hypothetical comparison which illustrates that fact in an interesting and comprehensible way. Rephrasing the trope a little, we get: "the fact is an ant can lift 50 times its own body weight. If you cannot imagine that, it is equivalent to you being able to lift an elephant. How amazing!" What the lady says here about the physics of actually enlarging an ant, and how that practically wouldn't work, is also a true and interesting fact. But the truth of one doesn't negate the truth of the other-ie., "an ant can lift 50 times it's own body weight (and that is equivalent to a human being able to lift an elephant) and if an ant were enlarged to the size of a human it's legs would collapse under its own body weight" are both equally true and fascinating facts but they aren't related.
@@thekaratekidpartii2169 The problem is that stating "the equivalent to you being able to..." is wrong. It is evoking the wrong impression about the feat, since a human lifting an elephant would be amazing, but an ant lifting 50 times its body weight is not at all amazing in the same way. But we can agreed to disagree on that.
When I was your age there was this old anime in my country whose protagonists were a trio of sprites, who were basically minihumans, but they had a very large head compared to their body, and large ears compared to their head too, and they also were very strong, very fast, and could do very high leaps compared to their size. They befriended a boy who the girl of the trio had a crush for, and protected him from his bullies in exchange for not revealing their existence. Well, in one episode he wished he could be small as them so he wouldn't have to go to school. They made him drink something that shrunk his size to theirs, but not his proportions, making him look very weird compared to them. Soon the difference in the body structure between him and his friends became evident, as he was basically helpless in that gigantic enviroment, and in the end he died. Only to wake up and find out it was a dream. Despite everything, from that episode I had the first hint from that just scaling something up or down doesn't work.
@@xocomaoxNot really because as the woman explained, it's only because they are small that they seem strong. If they were our size, they'd be as weak as a newborn baby. Couldn't even walk or move their arms... And most insects if not every insect are really "strong for their size". But we are stronger in every way, no matter if they are ant-sized or human-sized. We could step on them either way...
so basically what she’s trying to say was, if ants were 1000x bigger, but everything else in the universe is also 1000x bigger, then they would be able to lift the weight
Ant man has a breathing mask and does not lose matter when shrinking, which is how it's explained he still has the same strength as when he's normal size (it's just exerted in a smaller area). This explanation falls apart, though, because he should still have the same mass when he's tiny, but is repeatedly shown to be much lighter than normal.
In addition, the movie breaks its own logic when Hank keeps things like tanks and buildings small in order to blow them up later. They should weigh too much to be able to do that.
You do know insects and bugs were bigger in the distant past right? Maybe not human-sized, but much bigger than they are now. So it's not the wildest idea ever, especially in relation to a human being who can apparently shrink to ant size and then grow to skyscraper size and live to tell the tale.
Ant man in the film always wears a helmet when he shrinks down, I presume that helmet is what allows him to breathe at that size. The helmet probably acts as a kind of step-down transformer for air particles. Breaking down the larger oxygen molecules into smaller ones.
2:21 To be fair, I think that’s the entire point of why Ant Man has that mask because it also shrinks down the air molecules so that he can breath it. But I could be wrong, or I could be misunderstanding the reason why she’s saying this.
The paper she mentions does mention the Everest effect which is probably why she mentions it. The paper doesn't actually conclude with that, but instead uses that as a springboard for going into the theoretical technology required to breath, which is why she probably remembered that particular analogy and referenced it. It is a dry, technical paper. According to the paper, this hypothetical breathing technology only works if we assume he doesn't keep his mass as, if he does, then it would be functionally impossible for him to get enough oxygen to support his body due to Kleiber's law (from my understanding with a quick Wikipedia search, more mass=more metabolic requirements, including oxygen). He literally would not have the respiratory ability to do so, even with compressed shrunk-down oxygen. The paper addresses that he sometimes does keep his mass and sometimes doesn't, and essentially says "look, we have to assume he doesn't keep his mass, otherwise this doesn't work and he'll just suffocate immediately"
@@AnonymousProffession I mean, this stuff only works in Big Bang Theory i.e. superobsessive nerd circles that love to discuss it for shit and giggles. It's a given that from scientific viewpoint nothing from superhero comics or even most of science fiction works. Even if those stories use science they only use it as a springboard to create stories, not as the bible. That's why we have suspension of disbelief.
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Ants have been awfully quiet since this track dropped.
Maybe I wasn't watching closely enough, but I don't particularly remember them being noisy.
they’ve had it too good for too long
1 thousandth like, good on you my dude
Thats true havent heard ants speak anymore since 4 years
LOL
Ants need to shut up about how much they can lift
Yeah fucking ants going on about their lifting really bugs me
Their legs are so spindly they must skip leg day every single time, which is a shame as they've got no arms.
😂😂
Yeah, if they're strong you'll be able to see it, but nobody likes a braggadocious ant.
@@joncarthy2370you won the internet that day, sir
That woman was born to put ants in their place. 🐜
So like a ruler of sorts. A queen maybe?
Or me...if she wanted.
@@user-bw4jm1bv1i Hot red head geeks, am I right? 😮😁
she is the anti-ant-woman
Ironic since she's not in the kitchen.
I think she’s three ants in a trench coat trying to distract us from ants taking over the world.
That's ridiculous. She'd have to be at least 7 ants.
she is.... 1 MILLION ANTS!
This is a severely underrated comment hahahahahahah
Just the 3?
“We totally couldn’t, I mean they totally couldn’t lift that much”
This is called the 'square-cube law,' and it is one of the most important concepts when discussing form and behaviour of life at different scales. It's why hummingbird wings are stubby and albatross wings are way longer than their bodies. In addition to not being able to breathe, Antman would be more affected by static electricity than gravity, sticking to walls and not able to take steps.
Yes - but why do elephants have columnar legs but a T-Rex has chicken legs?
@@StanSlaughter Mate what are you on about? Tyrannosaurus had extremely large, muscular legs, which would have been absolutely necessary to support the body of the largest land predator on record. Chickens have membranous wings, and feathers covering their whole bodies. Tyrannosaurus do not; they are not avian. Their pelvic structures are the second largest skeletal structures in their bodies behind their skulls. Their pelvic bones are longer than they are wide in order to even have enough attachment points to support their massive thigh muscles. Their tails are as long and muscular as they are just to help counterbalance the rest of their bulk and to make space for those leg muscles. Their legs have the largest size to body size ratio of any theropod.
Have you ever even seen what a chicken's legs look like?
As well as everything the above commenter said, I would like to point out that t-rexes did have hollow bones, and were a lot lighter for their size than elephants as a result. T-rexes were bigger than elephants, but actually weighed about the same, possibly a little less.
I like how the square cube law makes you 9 times heavier if you are only 2 times bigger.
@@Lucas-sk5iywe have no idea if t. rex had feathers or not
“Stuff is the size that it is because that’s the size that it works for…” I’m telling my girlfriend that. 😤
We think alike😂
This is actually kind of true.
Genetically, well-endowed men tend to be from groups of people with predominantly large badonk women. The poking stick must be long enough to poke.
@@vela-6 Do you have any other racist stereotypes you'd like to share
@@beurksman Yes. Black people produce more melanin than white people.
@@beurksman Probably just ones that relate to your mother.
Ants never get sick they have anty bodies.
😂
Bravo. Best dad joke I’ve ever read.
I love the joke, But actually, ants don’t have antibodies or an adaptive immune system like we do-they rely on their innate immune system for defense
What's the joke, guys?
@@KulaGGin anty bodies->antibodies
[Size changes in 3 dimensions but muscle cross-section only changes in 2 dimensions.]
It is absolutely brilliant how she explained it in such simple terms.
Maybe I'm dense but that made no sense to me. Any 3D object can be sliced and its cross section will be in 2 dimensions. But that won't take into account the fact that it gets longer in the Z axis too. So it still grows in 3 dimensions...
@SWIFTzTrigger Yes, I agree. You're being dense. As she explained, the contractile strength of the muscle is predominantly dependent on it's cross sectonal area, and not on it's length. So, the fact that the muscle gets longer doesn't add any appreciable increase in strength, because it's the increase in cross sectional area that's important.
Consider a steel bar. What would make it harder to bend? 1) if it was twice as long, or 2) if it was twice as thick? As she is trying to explain, it's only increasing the thickness that makes it stronger, and increasing the length doesn't improve its strength. So, although you can increase the bars size in 3 dimensions, it's strength only increases in the 2 dimensions of its cross sectonal area.
@@sebfox2194 so girth better then length?
gotcha👍
It's a well known explanation.
Overly simple terms, tbh, but not far from the truth. It's not just cross-sectional muscle area that contributes to strength, it's also the composition of connective tissues and skeletal structures. A lot of the reason an ant is so strong is because its carapace is relatively rigid for its size. It's not that "it's lifting something 10 times its size!" it's that a rigid tube a couple of millimeters long is supporting an object weighing a couple of grams a couple of millimeters off the ground. We would expect a scaled-up organism to be yet weaker than already predicted by the 2D-vs-3D model because its structural elements would be less suited to support it. How could such a large ant efficiently move the nutrients it needed to lift all that weight through such a large body?
She put the smack down on ants like a large magnifying glass on a sunny day.
Your pfp 😂😂
The ants be saying... "shut up about the sun!"
Hannah Fry is a superb science communicator.
What annoyed me more about Ant Man was not him keeping his human-size strength when he was at ant-size, but the scientist shrinking a building and simply putting it in his suitcase all clean as if that building had never been connected to the ground and never had any plumbing or electricity attached to it.
Also the fact that when you shrink you're supposed to maintain your mass but Hank had a tank in his pocket
Also, it may have been small enough to fit in a suitcase, but it would still weigh the same as it did when it was a full size building!
I mean, it's science-fiction. Keyword: fiction. They're amazing fictional scientists that in the logic of their world, probably had the building running on an internal power source and since he has technology that changes the size of things, he could change the size of waste without the need for plumbing outsource and just refills any water needed.
@ThomasTheThermonuclearBomb In the comics, Venom is able to leech some of his mass to an alternate dimension. Perhaps with the logic of their fictional world that contains amazing scientific feats, Hank Pym can do a similar thing since he could do things like access the Quantum Realm.
@@TheDemonCaine Yeah, except it's science-fiction. Keyword: science. Also, "fiction" doesn't mean "fuck the most basic principles of science and narrative coherence." When _you_ as a spectator have to try and come up with explanations for glaringly obvious inconsistencies in the plot because none are provided within the plot, that is called a plot hole, no matter the genre.
I don't think I've ever heard "a buildup of fluid around the lungs and brain" spoken with such a lovely pleasant demeanor 😂
That is why I love Dr Fry. Her intelligence is off the chart but her ability to communicate is of the charts as well
Pleasing on the eye as well.
That's Hannah Fry for you.
@@hman2912eloquent way to put it but agree
Finally someone dares to say it
That comic books are works of fiction?
That was some of the most educational 3 minutes ever.
and it was incorrect.
The pedant in me wants to point out that Ant-Man wears a helmet that could be supplying him with oxygen
Where are his oxygen tanks though?
@@sebfox2194 Maybe the helmet continuously shrinks the air around him.
this is what i thought too. he has a breathing apparatus literally the entire time hes shrunken
It's just as likely that he doesn't have lungs and runs on supernatural brainwave energy bestowed upon him by the magical walrus that lives in the center of Pluto.
But that's just the pedant in me.
So you're a pesky ant too?
I guess the algorythm decided to make us all more ant-knowledgable this week huh
And I for one welcome our new ant overlords!
fANTastic, right? RIGHT? i'll see myself out
@@PepecoHub Granted, I didn't anticipate that.
How nice is to see someone who has a fact based knowlege and talks calmly and confidently about topic. It's almost mesmerising to listen and you automaticly absorb like a sponge..
to be fair what she is saying is not very contrevasial
her explanation of it is
NERD!!!
@@pig_wrestler
Why?
@@pig_wrestler She's completely correct though?
holy shit i loved listening to every second of her talking. she is incredible with the delivery and information
she has TH-cam channel
You just want to tap that
@@sarcastaball ah, can't admire women for anything other than the fact that they are women, huh? "Oh he said he thinks she has a great way to deliver information. He must want to get her in bed"
You're a fucking creep dude
@@sarcastaball we all would love to tap that I'm sure
@@sarcastaball Redheads are da bomb.
Let's create a six-foot ant and settle this right now.
Ants don't have feet though?
@@sirpanchertothey already have six legs as well so is he just implying we put feet on regular sized ants or..?
@@sirpancherto Ants DO have feet, also known as tarsi. Quit spreading misinformation.
She’s awesome. I like her Numberphile episodes a lot.
Sounds like you're a numberphile!
I think you mean Numberwang
@@kemokiddingthat's numberwang!
@@kemokidding I definitely do!
Shut it
Poor old Dec is just about fed up with people banging on about how strong his friend is.
Both those guys have before, fore and after heads 😂
*comic book writers with their hands over their ears*
“no no SHUT UP SHUT UP”
Well, the joy of comics is that they're totally wack.
Stan Lee once asked how Superman can fly. The video should be here on TH-cam.
He pointed out that Kirby's The Mighty Thor is based on a simple scientific principle where he throws a hammer and then lets the hammer's momentum carry him. I'm not convinced that this actually makes sense.
But he rightly pointed out that it doesn't make sense for Superman to fly. Originally, Superman didn't fly, he jumped over tall buildings in a single bound like The Incredible Hulk. It's just that in the TV adaptation it didn't look like a jump, so it memetically mutated into the Superman who can fly in space and shove planets around.
Of course this is DC Comics, where Batman can breathe in space. Not like the more grounded Marvel where Iron Man flies straight up into space, ignoring orbital mechanics, until his suit freezes solid in the thermosphere.
@@davidwuhrer6704
And while we're at it, superheroes floating in the air somehow have the purchase to push giant object around or catch a plane or whatever. Like, what are you bracing against, dude?
since when would they gaf about being realistic lol
@@eastvandb to be fair, they are usually flying via some telekinetic force providing thrust, not raising their buoyancy like a balloon or something
thats why ant man wears his suit to combat those drawbacks
Yeah, he clearly has a respriator
In case anyone doesn't know, this is an excerpt from the popular British game show, "Scientist Says Science Stuff And Then You Pick Letters Out Of A Hat That Don't Spell Anything".
Thanks! I was really confused by what was happening! 😂
Sometimes it's quite exciting because you think they're going to spell a swear-word, but then they don't. Bah.
(It's called Countdown for anyone who wants to look it up - it's shown when everyone is at work, so is especially popular with uni students, and people who are unemployed but have not yet reached the depths of despair known as "watching reality shows". There's also a ruder, funnier version called "Eight out of ten cats does countdown", which came out of a weird project where Channel 4 was doing mash-ups of two programmes but was so popular they carried on with it. Definitely worth a watch.).
@@donkmeister Sounds riveting
This is actually its sister show 'Statistician Uses Maths To Ruin Childhoods And Then Pick Letters...' etc. She also hosts 'It's Obvious Santa isn't real' and 'Baby Ghosts are just small hankies'
Or: the unfunny version of "3 out of 10 cats do countdown" ;)
Stan Lee's been awfully quiet since this dropped...
🥲
He died 😂😢
Dead quiet.
Actually this is also fairly disgusting, they're STILL using his verified @StanLee twitter account to post as him for PR.
@@quineloe wow, that's messed up. However, since it works, it means fans are messed up too.
I remember an American cartoon - two characters comment on an ant falling from a ceiling and then walking, apparently normally. They are amazed. Then in the next frame there is a close-up of the ant - looking quite damaged. The ant says, "I hope I can make it to the cemetery."
I get the intent of the comic, it's quite funny. People often ask, "why don't animals get sick from drinking raw water?", well, they do, actually. They just have to deal with it.
However, ants are so small that they don't get enough acceleration from gravity to be injured from falling. Many small animals are too small to hurt themselves falling.
@@bluegum6438 As a kid I used to wonder why animals don't get cavities without brushing their teeth. Used to ask myself why humans have such crap teeth. Didn't realize that a mammal's lifespan in the wild is super short and they don't eat processed sugar.
@@bluegum6438 An ant may fall out of an airplane onto a rocky cliff and be unscathed, but it will die of loneliness soon after.
@@bluegum6438 You are going to be mindblown but ants receive same acceleration from gravity as we humans do.
@@bismuth7730 yeah they don't get fast enough because of air resistance if we're being pedantic
If giraffes could jump as high as a flea, pound for pound, they'd avoid a lot of trouble.
I can do that - that's only like 2 feet...
Sure, one flea can jump 3.7 hotdogs, but what about a pound of fleas, cumulatively?
@@SnakeOfBaconAmericans using ANYTHING except metric 😂😂😂
@@vinuthomas7193 lol. Fair enough.
Giraffes already avoid lots of trouble cause no one wants to fight a 2 story animal.
Brother a kick from a giraffe can orphan a lion cub in an instant.
Hannah is wonderful
No she is not.
She really is.
After listening to this, I realize that ants ARE super strong indeed.
Thank you, Hannah.
We were thought this as a cursory thing to keep in mind in character art-the cube law of organisms.
Didn't Ant Man show anyone who was shrunk without the suit die instantly? I thought the suit was meant to bypass the problem of not being able to breathe somehow (and I guess also preserve the wearer's temperature), though perhaps even if it could, there may be side effects which the movie glossed over, but it's something to consider.
It's Disney's Marvel. As long as it's diverse, it's all good.
@@KulaGGin God you people are boring.
@@KulaGGin
Ant Man as a hero has been around since January 1962, Bozo. And it's never been remotely realistic. That's the joy of comix.
Yes. This was referenced in the film, I believe. That’s why he wears the helmet and the suit.
@@KulaGGin When did you decide to replace all your opinions with this crap?
Hannah is a delight. 😊
No
yes
@@aadilharoon1807 jkds sdjds sdyg !!
She makes me swoon.
*human sized ant appears and throws her 400mph through the wall.*
So you think ants are indeed super strong and somehow super strong means they are also super fast?
@@Zodroo_Tint He never said that. You should work on your reading comprehension skills.
@@Zodroo_TintWhoosh
Wait until ant Jesus hears about this
@@Zodroo_Tint Super-strength is related to super-speed. A 400 lb bear can run 30 miles an hour, that's a 400 lb animal that can knock over trees running faster than the fastest track star who weighs over 200 lbs less than the bear.
Force = mass X acceleration, more acceleration means more force.
the title "ant man and microscale respiration" really didn't get the laugh it deserved xD
Didn't do well at the box office, either - maybe it was direct to DVD?
Scientific Papers are serious business and the audience knows that!^^
Wow, thank god. I was about to shrink myself to ant size and hugify an ant to elephant size, but now I know I would've just wasted my time.
This is basically how she explained it
If these animals or insects where naturally bigger or smaller it would not be the same just like us
Shrinking will never exist irl idk why people waste time arguing about fiction
I would love to hear her talking for several hours without break.
If you can access BBC Sounds, she has a few shows on there - Uncharted is the latest and it's brilliant
She did the 2019 Royal Institution Christmas Lectures. 3x hour long child-level presentations about maths (so even plebs like us can make sense of it). They’re all archived somewhere so if you can find that then your wish is granted 😂
She does loads of episodes on the channel Numberphile, she's a great teacher
The quality of this video makes it seem like it's a show from the 90s, but then she starts talking about Antman.
She explained all that so well. But the Ant man not being able to breath was actually explained. The mask does all that for him. Obviously still not realistic but maybe the people writing an entire paper on it should have done a tiny bit of research.
It wouldn't be enough. The device itself would not be able to supply the oxygen needed. He'd still have the same problem. Read the paper. They did cover it.
@@ripleyhrgiger4669 I was just about to out of spite but I don't care that much. Didn't get that in the video so my comment stands until you can tell me why it couldn't do the job.
@@Mermiam
The irony.
"They're wrong, and should have done more research"
"Actually, they are correct and your contentions are invalid"
"I'm not doing more research and am therefore still correct"
You are insufferable, sir.
@@hhiippiittyy You made the contention. So back it up. In your little stroppy reply you could have made the claim but instead you get butthurt. This is one of those "Goku can't do what he does because physics" But within the reality he exists in he can. So unless we're talking in our reality, which is stupid because then none of it happens. So pick your poison chief.
Bro's getting cooked in the replies
also the paper was on respiration of humans at ant size. not on marvel lore
That's like surface area vs volume. If you blow up a ball, every time I double its radius, it's surface area has grown by a factor of 4 but its volume by a factor of 8. That means volume grows way faster than surface area and that means the ratio surface area to volume changes the bigger the ball gets, yet this ratio is responsible for many physical properties of objects. That's why things that work with small models will not necessarily work with full size models. That's why a small drop of water can form a ball but a big drop cannot: At some point the surface tension is no longer strong enough to prevent the water inside from breaking through the surface.
Yeah, it's called the 'square-cube law' ^^
Same reasoning why a bridge made of toothpicks is super strong and can hold many times its own weight.
> At some point the surface tension is no linger strong enough...
Ohhhh!
Paul rudd in shambles
Ant-Man wears a suit tho, you could easily explain away all the shortcomings of shrinking a human to the suit giving him oxygen and stuff he needs to survive in a small state!
Thank you, I'm no scientist, but knew it can't be perfectly proportional
in a theoretical it can, and is not limited by physics. She is extremely incorrect on this topic.
You know when Tom hits Jerry with a frying pan… and Jerry hits Tom with an iron…
Yeah.
At this point, I don't even think Ant man was real.
The biggest physics error with antman is not correctly showing the full weight of something after being shrunk down.
Could listen to this beautiful woman talk about anything all day long ..
Shut it
Weirdo
same here friend
Crazy that this monologue was just part of a gameshow
Didn’t know I needed a video of black widow concisely explaining why bugs are actually wimps. I too am sick of bug propaganda
I thought Ant Man was a documentary 🤯
Nerds take things literally and have poor sense of humor
@@grey_f98 Yes you're right. Nerds are incapable of understanding that a movie can be fictitious, and they are so bad at spotting which parts to laugh at and which parts to ignore. You're much cooler, because you are not a nerd, so you know exactly when to laugh, like when someone is being sarcastic, which you are also very good at spotting because you don't take anything literally.
@@9nikola a lot of words coming from a nerd
Lady must be blind if she doesn't see Ant Man wearing a respirator on his face.
😂
What so, Antman physics are nonsense? She'll be telling me The Hulk couldn't rip cars in half next.
She so craaaaaazy.
What's next? Superman couldn't use our sun's rays to fly?
No but for real have you seen the cross section of the hulks muscles??
The point of this isn’t to say Hollywood movies are rubbish because they are unrealistic. The ‘Antman’ premise is just an opportunity to teach some science in an engaging way.
@@ben2949 Dude. I was joking !
@@ben2949 but they did a study on it, so no, its not just an excuse, its your tax dollars
love the glee on her face as she namechecks the death-zone of everest
Thank you queen, I will incorporate that into my belief system
That is a good physics explanation, thank you.
Cube law - if you double in size, your cross section quadrupals whereas you become eight times heavier. Now imagine what happens by the time an ant becomes the size of a human. ...and yes, shrinking a human down to the size of an ant, everything within becomes prortionately smaller, including living cells. Which would mean his restpiratory system would not be able to function - the atoms/molecules in the atmosphere would be far too big for his body to process - with all his own atoms/molecules/living cells having been reduced so much in size. However, we are supposed to just enjoy such entertainment, while giving some parental guidence to the children watching with us.
What about the fact that every time he shrinks he has the Ant Man suit and helmet on. Could that be like a scuba suit and provide him with the air he needs. He never shrinks or gets giant without it.
@@donnywilliamson5807 he does though. And not only him. There was the whole lot of them going down to the Quantum Realm (another nonsensical idea, but it's just entertainment, adding some Star Wars vibes to MCU) without the suits, just normal clothes, and being totally fine, breathing, eating, etc.
@@Sylkis89 you're right I forgot about the third movie. I just remembered the first two and the Avengers movies.
As a writer for video games (narrative designer, to be precise) I sometimes face similar problems. What people don't seem to understand is that they value scientific accuracy in stories a lot less than they think. There are a lot of hard sci-fi authors - and not a single one of them is as popular as Star Trek or JK Rowling (not saying they are worse ofc). It's just not what they're looking for in a story, most of the time.
When people want scientific accuracy, they usually reach for a textbook, or Wikipedia, or a YT video. When watching a movie or playing a game, first and foremost, they want to be entertained. That's what they paid for, and that's what they acfually enjoy. So denying them this enjoyment, a short reprieve from the hardships and realities of life, is basically a breach of the unspoken contract between audience and author.
Ofc, it's more complicated than that. It is possible, for some stories, to mix factual accuracy with entertainment - and it's beautiful when it works (e.g. The Expanse). But how many movies, books or games can actually follow this principle? Would The Lord of The Rings benefit from an editor who would change it to perfectly correspond to our understanding of physics or of Scandinavian and Celtic folklore? Does any of that even matter for a story that isn't concerned with magic or science or the nature of reality, like Oliver Twist, or Shakespeare's plays, or even say Shawshank Redemption?
Wait, are you telling me that 6 years I've been training to be the next Ant Man was a waste of time?
Personally, I am horrified to learn that a superhero movie isn't depicting real world scenarios.
wow I can't believe ant man isn't scientifically accurate 😔
I'm so glad she explained that Ant-Man is "complete nonsense", I would never have guessed. 🤣
She basically explained the law of the square-cube.
If that was taught in all elementary school now all the kaiju battles would appear as ridiculus as the moon being made of cheese.
The square-cube law explains why there can be no kaiju or even giant battlemechs. But those things are cool so fiction writers will just choose ignore that aspect of physics like they already do for lots of things
Why is this video 4 years old, but all the comments are in the last month?
because of the youtube algorithm.
Because all the man size ants were too weak to lift their eyelids………..
People have finally run out of things to watch.
@@canopener505ify Each night I try and watch all the new videos that have been posted since the previous evening, but somehow I don't think I'll ever be able to catch up
Researching rebuttals takes a while. No, I don't have one.
I used to have a crush on her. I still do, but I used to too.
I don't think people who say these things mean them literally. It's just a good visual for explaining what normal-size insects can do.
Perhaps, but its an opportunity to teach people some facts. And there are certainly some people that take the hyperbole at face-value. So its important to explain it at least once.
@@wesbecoolthe people who take it at face value lack an internal monologue, meaning they lack critical thought, trying to educate these people when everyone else is just trying to have a laugh is low-key kinda weird. She's the meme of the guy at the party where he's like "they don't know about xyz"
Most people take this at face value. Most people have no idea of the square-cube law.
@@bencastor9207 Or maybe she's just a mathematician also having a laugh while also taking the time to educate people on how the world works because she's also a science educator, and you don't have the same sense of humor and are being a judgemental ass, when she fully understands what people mean and also fully understands how fiction works.
I always see people on the internet be like: "Y-yeah, we knew that, we just tried to be fun at party!" - when in reality, no, they didn't. Or, at least, most of them didn't.
They did have him basically suffering hypoxia when he went too big.
I literally had no idea. I'm so pleasantly surprised!
The fact that I figured out the strength increase corresponding to a size multiplication by 1000 would be a factor of 100 right before she said it, I'd say is a testament to how nice the explanation is.
You're smart and humble.
Square cube law explained
Wait till she finds out about spider-man attaching to walls.
she def had bug nightmares as a child
If a flea had its size and strength scaled up equally, the increased inertia would cause it to explode when it tried to jump!
Me: Two peanuts were walking down the street, one was a salted.
This lady: * cracks her knuckles * Actually, peanuts do not have the capability to talk nor walk. The chances to have two peanuts walking down the street are not only laughable, they are literally none.
Me: 🥺
Always a joy.
Thankfully Ant Man is too much fun to be ruined by pedantry. The movies explanation of "because tech" is all one should need.
Still, interesting stuff.
Best comment thread I’ve ever seen in nearly 30 years of Internetting.
I don't know how this game works but it certainly seems crazy that they would have this super cogent science education speech and then turn around and play wheel of fortune
actually she's wrong, antman's helmet has a life support system which shrinks air molecules
Wouldn't that cause fusion?
Which has nothing to do with what she's talking about. It's not the size of the molecules that's the problem (at least until you get into the movie-verse quantum nonsense where you really need to ignore real world physics to make sense of it), it's the amount of oxygen you can get in a certain volume. What he'd need is not smaller air molecules, he'd need oxygen-enriched air so he can cope with the much smaller lung volume. It's really besides the point though because ant man's powerset obviously doesn't make sense, and I really don't think the writers really were _trying_ to come up with concepts that actually make sense here, the marvel movies are just "shut your brain off and enjoy the spectacle" kinda films not treatises on "how do we represent super powers realistically".
@@hannessteffenhagen61The first Antman movies were kinda more or less consistent in their ficitonalized science. Like how the helmet was very important everytime he shrank, or those scenes where he eventually loses consciousness when he grows. But then comes the sequels where it increasingly becomes more inconsistent and fuk all to its established fictional science like in Quantumania where Scott and his daughter where effortlessly giants with their helmets off.
@@hannessteffenhagen61 antman is never seen shrinking without the helmet, and the helmet has a breathing conponment on the mouth, it would be safe to assume it has a small air tank, antman is never shrinking for more than a few minutes at a time.
@@femto9er OK? Not what you said in your first comment.
He needs orange slices when he goes big though... does that count?
Don’t believe her. Got an ant in my gym lifting 315lbs for 12 reps
Fun fact, Star Trek when they did a shrinking episode actually addressed and thought about this. Another reason why TNG is the best show ever.
The sayings at the top of the segment are to allow us to understand the scale in a more familiar setting.
...They don't make the comparison to make you believe they could lift a elephant. They do it as a comparison of how it is for the ant to lift what it's lifting. It's a example to make it more understandable. Not a 1 to 1 irl. And if you have a brain you have always known this. Hell, if you paid attention in math biology and physics you know this as a kid.
Wait though, when someone says “if an ant were the size of a human it could lift an elephant”, it’s not said as if that were somehow a possibility.
Surely it’s just a hypothetical illustration of how comparatively strong they are. Something like “an ant can lift 50 times its own body weight-that’s like you being able to lift an elephant.”
those are two different things
The problem is that the comparison is made to suggest that ants are incredibly strong, which they are not. They are just very small. When applying an inappropriate scaling operation with respect to strength, one can make them look like they are the "elephant lifters" of their world, but they are not.
If you make humans smaller, they also become incredibly powerful and fast.
Ants are not actually super strong and the strenght-scaling works both ways.
@@coolcat23 I have to respectfully disagree. I think the purpose of the trope is to teach a fact along with a hypothetical comparison which illustrates that fact in an interesting and comprehensible way. Rephrasing the trope a little, we get: "the fact is an ant can lift 50 times its own body weight. If you cannot imagine that, it is equivalent to you being able to lift an elephant. How amazing!"
What the lady says here about the physics of actually enlarging an ant, and how that practically wouldn't work, is also a true and interesting fact. But the truth of one doesn't negate the truth of the other-ie., "an ant can lift 50 times it's own body weight (and that is equivalent to a human being able to lift an elephant) and if an ant were enlarged to the size of a human it's legs would collapse under its own body weight" are both equally true and fascinating facts but they aren't related.
@@thekaratekidpartii2169 The problem is that stating "the equivalent to you being able to..." is wrong. It is evoking the wrong impression about the feat, since a human lifting an elephant would be amazing, but an ant lifting 50 times its body weight is not at all amazing in the same way. But we can agreed to disagree on that.
She just articulated what 12 year old me found odd about the super sized ant concept.
When I was your age there was this old anime in my country whose protagonists were a trio of sprites, who were basically minihumans, but they had a very large head compared to their body, and large ears compared to their head too, and they also were very strong, very fast, and could do very high leaps compared to their size. They befriended a boy who the girl of the trio had a crush for, and protected him from his bullies in exchange for not revealing their existence.
Well, in one episode he wished he could be small as them so he wouldn't have to go to school. They made him drink something that shrunk his size to theirs, but not his proportions, making him look very weird compared to them. Soon the difference in the body structure between him and his friends became evident, as he was basically helpless in that gigantic enviroment, and in the end he died. Only to wake up and find out it was a dream.
Despite everything, from that episode I had the first hint from that just scaling something up or down doesn't work.
yeah sure ok buddy we got a real genius over here
This woman went to Havard and studied ant sizes for 16 years. You should feel blessed to be in her grace
The ants definitely put those first two letters in the deck just to call her out for calling them out like that...."Oi"
I wonder if she's ever seen 'the tick' animated series.
Documentary series*
Im in love with her and her womansplaining
Ma'amsplaining?
When I was a child it already annoyed me whenever anyone tried to make the strenght of an ant out to be so impressive.
Sounds like you were jealous because you always felt like you were much stronger than those tiny ants! 😂
@@sebfox2194 or it was just absurd that people seemed to believe that "ant fact" without questioning it
@escanormorph1883 literally everyone who said that fact prefaced with "for their size". It's nothing to be mad or annoyed about.
That's because it is impressive.
@@xocomaoxNot really because as the woman explained, it's only because they are small that they seem strong. If they were our size, they'd be as weak as a newborn baby. Couldn't even walk or move their arms... And most insects if not every insect are really "strong for their size". But we are stronger in every way, no matter if they are ant-sized or human-sized. We could step on them either way...
so basically what she’s trying to say was, if ants were 1000x bigger, but everything else in the universe is also 1000x bigger, then they would be able to lift the weight
Scientifically accurate ant man sounds like the life of the party. basically weekend at bernies
How is she so charming. Jesus.
Ant man has a breathing mask and does not lose matter when shrinking, which is how it's explained he still has the same strength as when he's normal size (it's just exerted in a smaller area). This explanation falls apart, though, because he should still have the same mass when he's tiny, but is repeatedly shown to be much lighter than normal.
If something that small had the same mass of a human, it would probably perforate most surfaces it walks on.
yeah they said "shrinks space in between the atoms" iirc and then proceeds to become smacker than an atom lol
@@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369 Lol yeah :)
In addition, the movie breaks its own logic when Hank keeps things like tanks and buildings small in order to blow them up later. They should weigh too much to be able to do that.
@@joshualuigi220 As a matter of facts he shrinks an entire building and takes him with him as if it was a suitcase.
Imagine correcting the idea of an ant increasing in strength with their size but not the idea of scaling up an ant to the size of a human.
Not everyone can pay attention to a 3 minute video
You do know insects and bugs were bigger in the distant past right? Maybe not human-sized, but much bigger than they are now. So it's not the wildest idea ever, especially in relation to a human being who can apparently shrink to ant size and then grow to skyscraper size and live to tell the tale.
Ants! You've just been Fry-ed!
I'm waiting for her next interview where she discusses the common misconception that being by a radioactive spider imbues spider-like abilities.
I thought ant man wore a special suit with a mask to breath more oxygen.
Ant man in the film always wears a helmet when he shrinks down, I presume that helmet is what allows him to breathe at that size. The helmet probably acts as a kind of step-down transformer for air particles. Breaking down the larger oxygen molecules into smaller ones.
I think the helmet is only to help him communicate with ants, which is one of his other party tricks..
In the film he is told the helmet carries an air supply that shrinkscwith him and allows him to breathe
That was very interesting, having said that I could watch that women talk about life insurance and I would enjoy it.
I fully expected this to be 8 out of 10 cats and was waiting for the punchline
The Square-Cube law explained so well.
2:21 To be fair, I think that’s the entire point of why Ant Man has that mask because it also shrinks down the air molecules so that he can breath it. But I could be wrong, or I could be misunderstanding the reason why she’s saying this.
The paper she mentions does mention the Everest effect which is probably why she mentions it. The paper doesn't actually conclude with that, but instead uses that as a springboard for going into the theoretical technology required to breath, which is why she probably remembered that particular analogy and referenced it. It is a dry, technical paper.
According to the paper, this hypothetical breathing technology only works if we assume he doesn't keep his mass as, if he does, then it would be functionally impossible for him to get enough oxygen to support his body due to Kleiber's law (from my understanding with a quick Wikipedia search, more mass=more metabolic requirements, including oxygen). He literally would not have the respiratory ability to do so, even with compressed shrunk-down oxygen. The paper addresses that he sometimes does keep his mass and sometimes doesn't, and essentially says "look, we have to assume he doesn't keep his mass, otherwise this doesn't work and he'll just suffocate immediately"
@@AnonymousProffession I mean, this stuff only works in Big Bang Theory i.e. superobsessive nerd circles that love to discuss it for shit and giggles. It's a given that from scientific viewpoint nothing from superhero comics or even most of science fiction works. Even if those stories use science they only use it as a springboard to create stories, not as the bible. That's why we have suspension of disbelief.
@@sathrielsatanson He asked; I answered.
@@AnonymousProffession sure thing :)
@AnonymousProffession appreciate your answer man!