Why I Can Not Hunt From The Ground Yet
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ย. 2024
- Why I Can Not Hunt From The Ground Yet
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This stuff should be talked about more. Rich, rich content. Heck of a woodsman. Thanks, Jason!
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it and appreciate it
Took my first deer this year in my Waldrop PacSeat. The seat was leaning against a large Sycamore tree and I made my shot on a good sized (small rack) buck at 90 yards with my muzzleloader. Totally love this seat. Mine however, does not allow for the seat to swing to the back. Must be a slight change after buying mine.
They made the change last year I think to allow it to become a pack frame. Such an amazing seat.
I shot a good sized doe from my Waldrop Pack Seat on public land yesterday. One of the does came in close enough for me to touch and never seemed to see me. I have had some very close encounters using the Pack Seat. Thank you for the content. -Seth
Outstanding! That sounds like an amazing adventure! Such a great seat
Jason, I just knew your reason had to do with videography, especially knowing you limit your shots to 20 yds. I killed a good buck on some local public with my 308 Win Sunday afternoon. I have a great little one-legged hunting stool that I use by a tree, but if I’d toted in my Alpz Commander lite packed with all I needed to “process” in the woods I’d saved the long trip back to my truck for my cart and back, and it wouldn’t have been near as late a night! AND we would’ve gotten back out in the woods earlier yesterday morning. So great video to reinforce what I was already thinking! THANK YOU!
Killed my first deer walking around and sitting against trees on public land. Mustve walked 15 -20 miles from sep to mid october. I still value that doe over any buck just because of all the effort i put in at 20 years old knowing nothing and not having a mentor. Cant wait to hear your input on ground hunting whitetails
the "how" is where the power comes from rather than the antlers. Love how that doe is like that for you. Im looking forward to hunting from the ground a few times this late season here in Ga.
I just sold all my stands except my LWCG .5 and 3 LW sticks. I'm using my pacseat most of the time now! At 57 It's awesome not packing the stand and sticks anymore. Probably gonna stop using stands all together. Had two does 20y from me on my wrong side a few days ago it was really awesome.Had a chance at a doe at really close range and she busted me but it was so cool I'm hooked on ground hunting now!! Having a great time. Can't wait to see You and Robert get one from the pacseat!!! Thanks for your video's
Yep huntingnfrom the ground is amazing and such an adventure! And I jave never missed a deer from the ground. Tree stands mess with your head on distances etc.
My comment disappeared so here I go again. Can’t wait to see your ground hunt . I blew mine. The 8 pointer I was after walked 6 feet from me then turned 20ft in front of me. My scope was zeroed at 100 I aimed for heart . Slug went right under him. 🤦🏼♂️
Not sure what happened to your comment..I don't see it anywhere. But glad you reposted this. Sucks you missed the deer but sounds like an amazing adventure
@@SamkoTradBow I’ve never had them walk by me at 6 ft so amazing 👍🏻👊🏻
@@sheerwillsurvival2064 pretty incredible.
Have shot a few deer off the ground but it is nothing like tree stand hunting. If you are in a tree and animals come close you don't want to shoot, they never know you are there. On the ground, you may get a shot, but more than likely, you will get busted majority of the time. Also in a tree, if you get an occasional wind flip or swirl, the height may be enough to make it have negligible impact, but on the ground, you are probably screwed. Thanks for sharing. Chair looks interesting.
Yep ground hunting adds many variables that make it much harder but also much more rewarding.
Once December hits, I leave the sticks and stand at the house. It’s fun to switch it up to ground hunting, not to mention there’s hardly ANY cover on the trees. Most of the time have to wear bulkier clothing too. Just safer to stay on the ground
Agree 100% late season is a perfect time for ground hunting
Make ground Hunting your niche. I bet you will gain some viewers .
Alot of guys myself included are sick of dicking around the tree stand gear. But are just having a hard time giving up the tree stand.
Every time I am in a tree I am looking at spots on the ground thinking damn I could've sat right down there. 🏹
Yep. But my biggest source of income in my patreon channel and I need to keep making quality hunting videos for them. That's hard to do from the ground. But will be hunting from the ground a few times still this season still have the whole late season and another 2 deer camp trips left before spending the rest of the year hog hunting.
What he said!!!!!! Jason, if you hunted strictly from your backyard, beginner/intermediate guys like me would still be watching!
Seriously thinking of adding this to my Christmas list after watching your review. The noise you made in the video when you went to move the stand, then fell over had me laughing out loud!
🤣🤣. The fall caught me by surprise but better than falling out of a tree stand! The waldrop seat is amazing
Ground hunting is very challenging with trad equipment. Great advice!
Sure is. But also very rewarding
Lol love it. What you need to do is do like the hunting public guys and get your wife to film for you while y’all are on the ground great vid hope to see the chair in action soon
Definitely going to do some hunts from this chair. But for a while most of my hunting is gonna be a from a stand for the film aspect for my hunts on my patreon channel. But very excited to mix it up with some ground sits here and there.
I use a seat of a old lone wolf hand climber. Keep it low towards the ground but still comfy. I normally stand the first two hours of the day or the last two hours of the day. Lots of tricks to the ground gig and a hell of a adrenaline rush having deer withn yards of you unalarmed to your presence. You have to be focused 100 percent. No phone, very little eating, drinking water etc. I always try to have a '' Draw'' tree in front of me so I can draw my bow without getting busted.
Amazing tips! And also the reasons I can not hunt from the ground much yet. Too hard to film for my patreon channel from the ground. But I'm sure gonna make a few good ground hunt each year regardless just to experience the adventure of ground hunting more. Jave killed 10 deer from the ground. And there is nothing else like it!
Jason, I don’t use a Waldrop but I use a turkey seat. I like the lower profile. Takes practice to shoot a recurve from a turkey seat but it’s very doable with a slight cant. I also use camo and a ghillie. I had a mature doe walk within 7 yards this past season, no clue I was there. Ground hunting is the only way I hunt. Very successful at it. Having a draw tree or two is critical. Tree hunting is too much of a hassle and makes it feel like a job. I’d like to see how you do without camo or ghillie. I know your style is wearing everyday clothes. Never tried it. Curious if it would work. Thanks for the video!
Yep nothing as rewarding as killing a deer from the ground. I have killed 10 deer from the ground. some by spot and stalk and some because a tree would not work good in a spot. Not one of those deer were killed with camo on. I was wearing the same clothes i hunt in every day. including one that I stalked in crunchy leaves with my pack stand and sticks on my back and a blue solid tee shirt and no hat with my bald head glowing. granted it was only a spike. but i stayed with him for over an hour to close the distance while he ate acorns and I got to 17 yards before I shot him. I spotted him while on the way to a tree I was going to hunt. so when I do hunt from teh ground I will probably be wearing the same stuff I do as I hunt now. would a ghille help, for sure! But i dont think the difference is that big. I may find out im wrong, but wont know until I try.
@@SamkoTradBow wow! That had to be thrilling! I really like your messaging that you really don’t need all of this expensive stuff to hunt. It’s about being in the right spot at the right time and using your brain. It makes hunting more accessible to most people.
@@LizardKing513 agree 100% hunting is becoming. Rich man's sport and it should not be.
On my way back from my first hunt, a 4 day hun on 1000 acres in Australia. Stalking deer is so so hard. Got a rabit and a tone of fish. No deer or goats unfortunately
Congrats on what sounds like an excellent adventure! And your right, stalking deer is about the hardest hunting there is in many circumstances. Glad you made the reip happen and had a great time!
All of my deer have been taken from a ground set up all season and I have four in the freezer now! I've actually only climbed my tree stand once this year with no success. Ground hunting can work if you just know how to set it up. Nice video Jason! Check out some ground blind options that are easy to set up. And by the way, I agree with you it's so easy to get busted from the ground and it's much harder to self film. Check out my latest shotgun harvest from the ground. The video was difficult at best to capture, and I missed the kill shot!
Congrats on the 4 deer so far! Everything you said is spot on and makes great sense!
I have a solution. Bring four trailcams. Set up two looking at you and two pointing at deer trails. As soon as you lift your bow they will start recording
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For years I hunted off the ground almost exclusively, it's extremely convenient and I killed a lot of deer.
I still sit on the ground in some situations. This season one of my best hunts was standing next to a powerline tower in the wide open. Passed a nice 8 at 12 yards and saw several other bucks in range.
However, the last decade or so, I use stands most of the time again. I would rather be 6' off the ground with one stick than sitting on the ground in most cases. Visibility is just so much better and it can open up shots that are impossible on the ground.
Agree. Also easier for me to film from in a stand as I can see them farther away and record footage. Where on the ground they sneak in and are on top of you in a blink of an eye
If you haven’t yet, look into the natural gear camo if you want to give camo a try.
Thanks. I don't mess with camo much but others that watch this and read this comment will probably check it out for sure
ROBERT CARTER TRADITIONALLY BOW HUNTS FROM GROUND ALOT WITH WALLDROP SEAT ! He does fair filming !
Robert is a good friend and one of the best hunters in the country.
It’s crazy. I killed my last deer off the ground. Used a steep hill as back cover and sat in the middle of the hill. Come to think of it, I get busted in a tree stand more often
Ground hunting is amazing and much safer!
Seeing further and getting away with more movement is 2 advantages technically. Now as far as scent, I believe there is a definite advantage to being up in the air. If you break wind up in a tree I probably will not hear it or smell it if I am 10 to 20 yards from your tree. Now if I am 10 yards from and you are in your lawn chair....I probably will hear it and smell it. 😂
Could be true. But I do find that on the ground the wind is often much more consistent. When I hunt all these hogs on foot the wind is much more predictable and steady.
Use a clamp bracket for your phone and attach it to your chair. I use a selfie stick/tripod and sit on ground all the time. I would think a couple quick mods to seat and you can make a custom bracket to attach to chair too. Jeff Doyle made one for his back packs for tracking in New England. Would imagine something could be made for that chair.
Probably could and I bet after some experimenting it could be doable. But no doubt the quality of and amount of animal footage would be much less on the ground than from a tree.
@@SamkoTradBow ya I totally get that. A friend of mine had a TH-cam channel and we had a tv show 15yrs ago and I understand completely. I like TH-cam stuff much better as you just answer to yourself. We shoot most if not all our stuff on cell cams and man is that a relief. Also it allows us to do things like us super light clamp mounts and custom make things for simple filming. Up here in Northeast Gun hunting is the rule so we hunt a ton by tracking, still hunting and sitting randomly as we move through woods. This is not conducive to filming so getting creative is necessity. Our gun up here is over in ME and now we have 2weeks left in NH bow so same tactics will be employed while using bow. It’s a challenge but challenge excepted!!!! As usual Luv your videos.
@pathfinder5804 agree 100% . I love hunting the way you are talking about too. That's how I do all of my hog hunting. Good luck the rest of the season
Time for a whiteboard video of advantages/disadvantages of stand vs ground.
🤣🤣 love my white board when im trying to explain stuff!!
Awesome video Jason. I’m going to be looking into one myself
You will be very happy with this seat
I got busted by a big doe on the ground and a big buck on a tree, the doe tasted good, the buck never gave me a chance haha,
well done and congrats. any deer is outstanding. a deer from the ground is that much better.
It looks comfy for at the fire. I replayed the 1440 strap malfunction 5 times. Does that count towards watch time?
Sure is a great chair! The fall caught me off guard 🤣
Have you looked into a 360 camera? You could place one above yourself on a tripod. Use a remote to turn it on and start recording, and maybe use b-roll for a little fill in and use it for occasional videos so you can get a little bit of it still. And as far as the No camo thing on the ground, I don’t mess with it other than stuff I already have that’s camo like old jackets I still use, and I don’t use it most of the time. And I’ve been fine without it with deer close too. I think grey colors do seem to help when getting away with movement on the ground though. But that could be me..
Yep something like a 360 would be a benefit. The quality and amount of animal footage would drop drastically from the ground vs tree. But I plan to definitely do some ground hunting anyway. Yep I've killed 10 deer from the ground in my normal every day clothes that I hunt in. Including one deer I stalked in a solid blue tee shirt with my pack stand and sticks on my back. I'm not convinced camo is needed but time on the ground will prove or break that thought for me soon enough.
@@SamkoTradBow very true on all accounts! I hope you find a way you like. You always put out good stuff.
@@robertwilliamson6958 thank you. I'm excited to spend more time on the ground and see what I can come up with
I want to go on a public land hunt in Allegheny National Forest what backpack would you recommend for packing out a deer
Anything with an external frame that can be "load slung ". Like exo mountain , kuiu, kifaru, stone glacier, mystery ranch.
Hey Jason just got my pacseat yesterday. Couple questions: I set it up back leg extended and when I sat in it I noticed the seat moves in. Did you tighten up your mesh string? Is it supposed to do that? Also I noticed a hot spot on the inside of my thighs where longtime sitting might become annoying I don’t know just interested in your thoughts. Overall seat is best out there and my goal in 24 is to kill a deer from the ground but was just wondering about those two things thanks
My seat bar moves towards me some when I sit down too. I believe it's supposed to as your butt drops in to the seat. I have not adjusted my mesh. I have not experienced any hot spots or pressure points but I bet that is all relevant to different leg lengths, heights etc. But could put a foam pipe insulator on those spots. I also know some people like a faom seat pad on this chair for all days sits.
I’ve tried to video a group of 8 + does that come out same place everyday and they bed in same thicket everyday and I was on ground under my tree stand and they came out and I was in and behind brush and even wooden pallet and I tried video with my phone and it has camo cover and I had on gloves and the old lead nanny doe caught me from a 100+ yards on ground … I get busted all the time on the ground without trying to video and they come in so close I’m scared to blink and it’s hard to kill mature buck from ground if there’s a bunch of doe’s around especially hunting from ground !
Yep ground hunting in a whole different level of tough
you should probably mention to not remove zipties on this seat.... i did and I can't figure out where they went but its super loud
yep dont remove the zip ties. they are to keep pins and rings quiet
You need to get yourself a proper safety harness if you're gonna use a pac seat on the ground. I saw a guy go ass over tea kettle sittin in one of those things, highly unsafe.
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Any discount codes for the Pac seat?
Not from me. I paid for my mine with my own money. No sponsor etc. I bought mine myself.
What seat is that
Waldroppacseat.com
Looks like a decent chair if it was $75-90 but not $225! Do they wear a mask when they take your money? Thenk they try to scalp you $50 for shipping! That’s absolutely obscene ! 😡
well worth it to me. did I mention well worth it! Cause I meant well worth it.
Answer: 7:00
But the rest is worth watching
Do they make a 360 camera u can mount on a pole and use a remote control to start video.
Probably but that qould not have the same effect of being able to zoom in and film deer. It's much more than just getting a kill shot. My payreon hunting vids are full length hunts with all kinds of detail. But I'm still going to do some ground hunts each year including this late season.
I have always been confused: Why do you not hunt from ground even though your hunting skills are so good? It turns out that this is the reason. Yes, if you are recording video while hunting from ground, you will have to hire a photographer, which will cost a lot of money.
Yep Filming from the ground is much harder. and you get less footage as the deer are right on top of you before you see them. From a tree I can see them coming from much further and film alot more.