Important Arrow Info For Traditional Bowhunters

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  • Important Arrow Info For Traditional Bowhunters
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  • @kevinroberts9580
    @kevinroberts9580 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I just shot a tournament with guys shooting metal risers and longbows with perfect vertical form and draw and stance....... But I won with drawing from low position, canting my bow, single Nock point and 52 lb of draw weight has 32 inch draw. When they were shooting 35 lb metal riser bows three fingers under with perfect form. My bow is my hunting setup

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hahaha. Love this! And congrats on the win!

    • @markmclaughlin4801
      @markmclaughlin4801 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's great to hear
      Keep it simple with familiar gear. Well done

  • @steveb.3725
    @steveb.3725 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    went to a 3D shoot last year, & grouped up with some fun guys that all shot target recurves. I had my Schafer recurve with me, my fav hunting bow. I held my own against them, but was almost constantly getting tips and coaching from them, which I didn't mind-none of them were hunters. towards the end of the round, one of them asked why I wasn't changing my shooting based on their instructions. I mainly hunt from the ground, so i said, "let me show you. let's you and me try 1 shot each at 15 yds-you pick your shot, & i'll shoot the same way, then it's my turn." He picked the classic upright target shot, and got closer to the bullseye than me. then it was my turn. I stood with my back to the target, and knelt down on both knees, then turned around as i drew, holding my recurve almost perfectly horizontal, just a couple of feet off of the ground, and drilled the heart on the target. He missed the target completely! "I said-I'm a bowhunter-that's why i shoot the way that i shoot!"

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Love this! Nothing wrong with target style and nothing wrong with hunting using a target style. But I prefer no limitations, and target style has to many limitations. Great story and you proved your point to them with it being better for your hunting situations. Love it

    • @pistolpeds
      @pistolpeds ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All good and the best and most comprehensive tutorial on hunting style in a single video I have seen to date.

  • @bobarel7486
    @bobarel7486 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    “ I do not shoot in a perfect world! I do not shoot with perfect form”! Amen

  • @gordie4059
    @gordie4059 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good stuff! I’m just getting into bow hunting and I like learning from an actual seasoned bow hunter not a target archer. Same tools, completely different applications.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agree 100% and any questions just ask!

  • @joebibble9647
    @joebibble9647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have shot Bow for 56 years, and I AGREE with EVERY THING you said in this Video 1000%. I will continue to watch all your video's. Great Job !!!!!!

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it

  • @kennethwilt8402
    @kennethwilt8402 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Awesome, finally a truthful bow hunter !

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you.

    • @TheHYENA87
      @TheHYENA87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Isn’t that the truth! This was refreshing
      to hear.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheHYENA87 thank you

  • @aboriginal59
    @aboriginal59 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You gotta calm down Brother! HA!HA! F**K the Trolls! HA!HA!HA!

  • @chadcook1862
    @chadcook1862 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    People think they should be as precise and repeatable as an 85 % letoff compound with a release. It's like trying to shoot long shots with a shot gun.
    These bows have diffrent advantages. Light quite shoots ok in any position.

  • @tomh7708
    @tomh7708 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I agree with you. Everyone has to find their shooting style and what works for them. That's where the fun starts!

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well said and agree 100%

  • @djfuzzystump
    @djfuzzystump ปีที่แล้ว +1

    26" draw? How tall are you? This really stuck out - as I'm only 5'6" and I might draw 25" or so - and it's always felt like a limitation becauseI need more draw weight to get decent energy. What draw weight are you shooting for hunting? Good video, thanks!

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  ปีที่แล้ว

      im 5'6" as well. and my draw is 26 on a good day. often about 25.5 on average. Im shooting 57 pounds at 26 inches. anything above 40 pounds at your draw will work perfect.

  • @MD-wh2nh
    @MD-wh2nh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also what do you call a release device / glove like that? I am a beginner traditional bow hunter. I have a 50 lb grizzle bear bow. I am looking for a limb quiver like the one you have. I currently have a neet 3 finger glove and shoot split finger. I a really like your glove.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  ปีที่แล้ว

      This is called a shooting tab. They make them for split finger or 3 under style. Many different styles and materials. 3 rivers archery has a bunch great ones to choose from. Welcome to the world of traditional archery. You are gonna love it!

  • @brianlocal3
    @brianlocal3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never could get a bareshaft to fly straight, nothing I ever did, best I can figure is I have a major form issue. I shoot well and typically place high but dang bareshaft I h drives me nits

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep form matters tremendously. I actually have a video coming out of form issue with bareshsft tuning that I made last time I was down in ga where I have a big black backstop that I could show it well.

  • @barrystricklin2230
    @barrystricklin2230 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My dad was hunting with a recurve in the 50s and 60s when l was a teenager he taught me to shoot just like you do crouch down bend at the waist a little bend in bow arm l can't imagine shooting any other way

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  ปีที่แล้ว

      yep works best for me too. really dials in my focus.

  • @mikekupetsky6879
    @mikekupetsky6879 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I shoot similar to you when I hunt when I shoot paper targets in a league or 3D then I shoot more of a vertical bow for me it's not hard to switch back and forth some people that's the curse of death

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats great that you can switch styles so easily. I could not do that!

  • @stewartstubbs5278
    @stewartstubbs5278 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    pentagram in the background .... you can`t fool everyone

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂 not a pentagram

  • @samholt6148
    @samholt6148 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jason,
    What is the maximum height of your high back feather configuration?

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Between half and 3/4. Can't remeber exactly.

  • @jakesmith6337
    @jakesmith6337 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dude, you gotta focus on back tension and expand through the shot !!

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks. I'm not worried about it

  • @yasotay
    @yasotay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I disagree with a lot of what Jason says but I also understand what he's trying to convey.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nothing wrong with that! All I can preach is my experience

  • @thewhitetailexperience6055
    @thewhitetailexperience6055 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good stuff man

  • @duffy1298
    @duffy1298 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve been trying to find a high back chopper. Which one do you use?

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I buy the 3 rivers 4 inch and now just drop the guide bar all the way down as low as it will go. Used to buy thr 5 and a half high back and cut the feathers at 4 inches and shape the front with scissors

  • @GeezerDust
    @GeezerDust 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You have a lot to say and you get it done. I learned some things and enjoyed watching. Thanks.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome! Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you.

  • @davisrs1
    @davisrs1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    To go a step further, I practice shooting left handed for animals coming around from behind and to the right as well as flying targets without a good anchor with any of my bows,but I've been shooting bow for 72 years!

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Practice is everything. And if you practice it and can do it repeatedly then it's good to go.

    • @davisrs1
      @davisrs1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SamkoTradBow
      People need to practice every possible scenario they might come across. Deer, Partridge, squirrel and rabbits aren't going to be straight in front of you!

  • @kan-zee
    @kan-zee ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am so grateful to finally meet someone , who I can totally understand ...
    Your a lefty, I am a lefty..
    You don't conform to the social archery styles of archery that are dominant on videos or in archery clubs....you have your own adaptable style that works for you, for what you need (hunting).
    11:47....Bwhahahahaah....OH MY GOD !! laloololol

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep I find what works best for me and stick with it. Glad you enjoyed the video

  • @robertwilliamson6958
    @robertwilliamson6958 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Watching your videos like this one makes me realize I could use a more forgiving setup and need to work on/play with tuning more.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Always good and fun to tinker with tuning!

  • @ArielNajarro
    @ArielNajarro 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    back ground is b e a utiful! great info aswell

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks..glad you enjoyed it

  • @davidc.2030
    @davidc.2030 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome video. I am a compound archery hunter, but find a lot of your information priceless and cause me to think in different ways for my setup. . Also, The energy and passion you have for archery and all-things-outdoors is astounding. Haha great job.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. Greatly Appreciate that.

  • @MangrovesToMountainsOutdoors
    @MangrovesToMountainsOutdoors 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video Jason. I think a lot of the shooting gurus are well intentioned but are geared towards newbies and people crossing over from compound bows. Or, competitive 3D guys. It's funny the way those courses are laid out, 99% of those guys will be deer hunting 18' off the ground😁 Try getting back tension when a deer is 6 yards from your tree and you're 20' off the ground! It's too much.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! And I agree, thats why i shoot like I do. And don't get me wrong there are great benefits to the way archery is taught and used by so many today. But for me, this is what qorks best.

  • @vetog9438
    @vetog9438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People r going to see mistakes, but is good tha u don't care , for me what u said it make sense, only one question u said that u use hight feathers couse u use big Brodhead then if i use small Brodhead. Is fine with regular feathers?

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. If your arrows are tuned well you don't need big feathers for any head. I use them as they create a bigger visible ball for me too see.

    • @vetog9438
      @vetog9438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SamkoTradBow thank you very much, i really appreciate your videos

  • @rusty728
    @rusty728 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finally, a realistic hunting shooter. Right on bud... love it.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it

  • @michaelwinans6351
    @michaelwinans6351 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good video. I can use back tension everytime when I'm practicing. But when I'm in the moment hunting I never think about back tension. So after a couple of seasons I've just quit practicing that way and know how my arrow flies as it would when I'm hunting.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree 100%. I did the exact same. finally said forget it. This is how I shoot and it works for me. Glad you have a system that works good for you.

  • @001dovehunter3
    @001dovehunter3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was a good one, couldn't stop laughing. Just to much "You Gotta Do This" stuff out there. I have never been able to get the bare shaft thing down, but feathers are your friend. Keep em coming

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol. Yep feathers are definitely your friend. And they hide all my flaws very well

  • @jn-mh4eb
    @jn-mh4eb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If it works for you it’s right for you

  • @tomfisher47
    @tomfisher47 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very sound advice 👌

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @richmerlo2769
    @richmerlo2769 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All I can say is if it works do it ! I watched your practice videos , and I must say you are an awesome shot , very consistant shooter , hope to be that good some day !

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! I agree if it works just do it. No reason to have to follow any certain system or method

  • @moneyandtimefreedom3352
    @moneyandtimefreedom3352 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I started40 yrs ago an old guy asked me, “ do you want to hit the 12 ring when your with your friends or do you want to kill the deer and elk?” Since then I have shot the way you just explained. In the last 40+ yrs I have since then killed a bunch of deer and elk, my friends they can hit the 12 ring.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well said! Nothing wrong with target archery and nothing wrong with shooting a bow any this or that way. But for hunting I think the target way is not the best way.

  • @jonpatterson5668
    @jonpatterson5668 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To thine own shot be true

  • @thisiswhatyoutubedoes7505
    @thisiswhatyoutubedoes7505 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I noticed on my first deer I ever shot at with my longbow that I should have practiced with a cant. I went home and practiced it and immediately realized that I was shooting all wrong before. I love how informative your videos are and that you have thought about everything. Like the video where you have a pin in your grip so the arrow doesn't fall off in high wind. Like who thinks of these things lol keep up the good work man.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Glad you are enjoying the videos!

  • @cliffbrown4217
    @cliffbrown4217 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fundamentals are what's truly important if you are learning how to shoot any bow , that is if you think consistency is important and yes I am a bow hunter.

  • @tradarcher8714
    @tradarcher8714 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I shoot a traditional bow I always use perfect form!!!
    Who am I kidding I never shoot with perfect form or do I know what it is. 😂

  • @bernardfernandez6172
    @bernardfernandez6172 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks - appreciated

  • @KombuchaPants
    @KombuchaPants ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for what you do.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very welcome and thank you for commenting

  • @MD-wh2nh
    @MD-wh2nh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you make your limb quiver? Where did you get it?

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This quiver is made by great northern bow company. It's excellent. Other great options to check as well are selway, creek walker trading, and gunshy.

    • @MD-wh2nh
      @MD-wh2nh ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SamkoTradBow Alright thank you very much for your responses. That is very helpful.

  • @toxolite
    @toxolite ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fit for purpose, great.

  • @Wingman115
    @Wingman115 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jason I agree 100% too many people watch the hunger games and think that’s the way to shoot a bow for hunting. Great real world knowledge being dropped. Thanks as always for sharing.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Yeah there is a big drive towards target style shooting and thats 100% ok and good. But for me as a hunter first thought this might help some people understand what its really like in the woods.

  • @block415sf
    @block415sf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Pinch a bear can... I'm not doing that." I agree.

  • @larryreese6146
    @larryreese6146 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Watched several of your videos and what you are saying makes perfect sense to me. I'm 70, still able to pull a 60 pound bow and shoot in the old traditional style. Why? It fits me and it's fun. I've tried compounds and even crossbows. They don't fit and I'm going to shoot the way it works for me and the bow that works for me.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Love this! Very well said and agree 100%

  • @knobstonestickbows4962
    @knobstonestickbows4962 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lmao glad somebody finally said all of this!

  • @woodsmith8439
    @woodsmith8439 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ever since I had to quit hunting cause I’m old, I’ve used your explanation as my defense for my target performance. Our club has one “hunt” style shoot a year. Tree stands, 8 yd shots. Knees, under branches, the whole routine. Every club oughta have at least one for perspective.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's a great idea for all clubs and would teach people what it's really like in the woods.

  • @elibraxton8114
    @elibraxton8114 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I shoot a 52” 60 lb bow . Here in the PNW we don’t hunt out of a tree stand . We are waking 100s of Miles a year . And we need a small bow beacuse the brush is so thick

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like you have the perfect bow for what you need!

  • @brianc6739
    @brianc6739 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do you get so much weight up front on a 500 spine arrow? I’m interested in this high FOC. I have maximum 28 1/2 draw ready to kill stance bend knees crouched over 53.4 pound draw on my cut to center longbow. I shoot aluminums and want to go to carbons yet not spend a small fortune. 2016’s and 2018’s cut to 29 3/4 125gr tip 20gr standard insert. Fly great. I switched this year to 2117 30 1/2 inch arrow 150gr tip 20gr standard insert and it shoots good. I like the carbons they’re tougher. I’ve only shot 3 deer since this trad journey every one has ruined the arrow. How do I get the high FOC with my long arrows? I have a shorter draw at weird angles like you all is the same because I use an athletic stance aka ready to stick one stance. I have wood and aluminum arrows coming out my nose. I need arrows that can at least kill twice lol. When I shot compound I had carbon arrows that have killed 4 or 5 deer on their own. Sorry for being long winded. You’re just the best guy to ask because you have same setup as me.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Reason I can go so high on the front weight on a 500 is because i use a double insert that i custom make that is 200 grains and is 3 inches long. So my 27 inch arrow only has 24 inches of flexible shaft make the spine much stiffer. I draw 26 inches on a good day probably 25.5 most of the time. My bow is not true center shot as a hill style bow.
      So I have a 710 grain arrow with 450 up front.

  • @robertwilliamson6958
    @robertwilliamson6958 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watching your videos like this one makes me realize I could use a more forgiving setup and need to work on/play with tuning more.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Always fun to tinker with tuning

  • @maxbehr3095
    @maxbehr3095 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been a compound shooter my whole life, just started traditional recently to reignite the fire and learn something new, this is probably the 3rd trad bow video I’ve ever watched, but this has to be the realest damn thing I’ve EVER seen on TH-cam. HELL YEAH DUDE! Awesome video

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it and welcome to traditional bowhunting!

  • @mikedinardo5995
    @mikedinardo5995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree with you 100%. I see comments where guys ask if they should hold for two or three seconds to get back tension. I'm thinking, shit in two or three seconds that animal could be out of the shooting lane. One question though, do you find the heavy foc "reduces" the importance of the spine of your arrows? I'm just starting to dabble with a high foc.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I do believe that high foc arrows recover quicker therfore making them easier to tune and offering a bigger range of bow weight that thry can shooter better in. But I do still believe tuning is important and bare shaft as well as paper tuning should be done to get the best possible flight. The major advantages of high foc is better broadhead flight, better penetration, better accuracy in wind, better bone breaking capabilities, etc.

  • @riversedgeoutdoors6208
    @riversedgeoutdoors6208 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ive actually got in the habit of leave my arrows a c-hair weak spined to help with this to i run 4 x4" fletch, loses a little foc with the extra feather but works well for me and im never thinking about the cock feather

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like you got it dialed in!

  • @NorthernMontanaHomestead
    @NorthernMontanaHomestead 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's funny seeing all the archery keyboard warriors criticizing every little thing. Asiatic archers intentionally torque the bow for khatra, don't use an arrow shelf, don't use knocking points, sights, anchor points and are extremely accurate. Obviously there are some misconceptions in the west about what is necessary for consistency and accuracy.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      great points

  • @benedickvisser9236
    @benedickvisser9236 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great 👌

  • @bowmac54
    @bowmac54 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I believe my form is much worse than yours. I am 66 and have been shooting Traditional for around 55 years. I was always a bowhunter first, foam shooter second. I always cant my bow, no back tension to speak of. Sometimes I hit full anchor and sometimes not, I am known to snap shoot on occasion etc. etc. Meat hunter first and have been blessed with 76 whitetails in the freezer over my life. I have tried correct form and so forth but think at my age I will just stay with what works for me. Loved the video, thank you!

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Congrats on a lifetime of great hunting adventures and here's to many more! Yep I'm with you. If it works great dont change it!

  • @jasonhinson3812
    @jasonhinson3812 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Greg video! I also get really annoyed by everyone acting like you’re going to be able to shoot a stick bow like you’re shooting at the range in hunting scenarios. Plus the fun of shooting primitive bows is the fact that it should feel natural and it should be your own style……..shoot however your comfortable shooting and build off of it. I ain’t looking at any diagrams of how my back and arms should be.

  • @_trismegistus
    @_trismegistus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just use a smaller horsebow and thumb release with khatra and you can avoid so many of these issues 😛
    All joking aside, great info and points here. You've definitely done the work to figure out what works best for you and what is impractical technical distraction. Also, with the back tension stuff, you may just be strong enough to where you dont have to put extra focus into engaging the back. I'm a skinny guy, so I need all the focus I can get to keep from tearing out my already crappy shoulders.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  ปีที่แล้ว

      back tension is a very good thing in archery. and if you can make it happen consistently thats the best way to do it.

  • @laurensadventures1344
    @laurensadventures1344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you have marks on your arrows and riser your arrows are overspined. Try adding more weight up front….😅

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Like I said in the video those marks are from wild shooting positions when im definitely short drawing and thus making the arrows over spined. But they are not over spined for my shooting in most situations.

    • @laurensadventures1344
      @laurensadventures1344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know. I was teasing you

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@laurensadventures1344 I just realized that when I saw the smiley face and remembered that I talked about gow so many people tell me they are over spined in the video! Sorry I was a little slow catching on this time.. lol was a while ago that I made the video

    • @laurensadventures1344
      @laurensadventures1344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Love your videos, keep up the good work.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@laurensadventures1344 thank you

  • @Zemuron2
    @Zemuron2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jason I have a similar draw length as you, and my first Trad Bow is a Bear Montana 64 inch, 60lb. I bought 400 spine arrows, and got them finally tuned with a 75 grain insert and a 300 grain broadhead. However, the trajectory was rough after 15 yards, about 8 inch drop at 20 yards. When I tested it at a local archery shop, the poundage on my bow actually ranged from 40-46 pounds. (Apparently this model is very "stacky". ) I'm having luck killing three pigs and three deer this year, but I would like a bow with more poundage to improve my trajectory. Right now instead of "20 yards and in" I'm more like "12 yards and in."
    Question 1. Seeing how my draw length can't be increased, how did you find bows allowing for higher poundages? I think I remember you saying you used as much as 70 pound trad bow, but now you are about 55 pounds.
    Question 2. Spine charts now say I should shoot a weaker spined arrow, 500 or 600, would a drop in spine improve my trajectory in the 15-20 yard range? Have you found the spine of an arrow affecting trajectory much? By trajectory I mean "drop" with increasing distance.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Congrats on the deer and pigs!
      Bow weight will not change the arrow speed much. But longer bows are usually smoother and stack less than shorter bows.
      Spine will not effect arrow speed. You have to shoot a certain spine to get good arrow flight. Arrow weight is what slows the arrow down. I recommend arrow weights of 10-12 grains of arrow weight per pound of draw weight. But even 9 grains is still good.
      I tip my hat to you for keeping your distances close and knowing the limits of your gear!

  • @knolltop314
    @knolltop314 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your viewpoint was well presented.

  • @duasobA
    @duasobA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That torque thing (khatra) is an advantage for thumb draw in which we dont care a lot about spine and stuff

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thumb shooters always get such a great clean release too!

  • @ericbaker2023
    @ericbaker2023 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just started watching, but I love your channel. I love the fact that you’re focused on what works, not what everyone tells you should work. 👍😎

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! Glad you are enjoying the content!

  • @rayvillarreal1139
    @rayvillarreal1139 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great info, do what works for you and the perfect it! Enjoy your videos very informative. One suggestion, slow down and take a breath every now and then you’re gonna pass out one of these times bro! Lol!

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Yep hard to slow down as my mouth trys to keep up with my brain..lol

  • @Binko63
    @Binko63 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That straight up and down shooting holding the bow like a compound must come from watching tournament archers. Guys getting into into traditional complain about not being able to shoot a long recurve or longbow because the bottom limb may hit the stand. I practice shooting my longbow in a lot of positions and one of them is almost horizontal. It can be done with practice. Some guys are amazed when they try canting and that it can be done.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep I always cant the bow. And like you, horizontal is a required practice sequence.

  • @theodorehall322
    @theodorehall322 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    kustom king barrel tapered cedars & maple have worked great for me.

  • @alexnormal3031
    @alexnormal3031 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello from Siberia, Baikal lake area. A good content your videos.

  • @dansmith9485
    @dansmith9485 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good stuff. I'm a hunter & just looking into learning on a trad bow. Haven't even found a bow that I wanted to buy. But anyhow I was wondering what poundage of bow do you use?

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Trad bow weights are measured at 28 inches of draw unless otherwise noted. So you need to figure out your draw length first by going to a bow shop and drawing thier measuring bow. Bow weight goes up or down about 3 pounds per inch either side of 28 inches. So a 45 pound bow at 28" would be 42 pounds when drawn to 27" and 48 pounds when drawn to 29".
      Something in the 45 pound range at your draw length is a good bow weight to start with and is also good enough for hunting as well.

  • @ryan_darkmagic
    @ryan_darkmagic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sometimes people get so caught up in the gear that they forget their own bodies and instincts. I'm really enjoying your advice, attention to sensible gear, but not neglecting what makes sense to you and you alone. Not everything you do will work for me, but some of it will. Jeet Kun Do...

  • @americanpatriot661
    @americanpatriot661 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've always shot Doug fir arrows in my recurves and longbows. Nothing against carbon, just haven't been able to get a good carbon to fly like my fir arrows with Pope & young cut feathers.
    I did just order the American from Steve at NM. Thx for the gr8 info.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah wood is the ultimate arrow material for forgiveness, quietness, etc. Can never go wrong with wood! Glad its working great for you

  • @graphguy
    @graphguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Haha, you had me busting up! I love it, "I'm not a target archer, I'm a bow hunter!" And to that I say, amen! Yes I target practice, but for me it is all about the meat!
    Thanks for the great videos.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahaha. Yep its all about the meat for me too! I'm the farthest thing from a target archer there is..lol

  • @michaelpatrickmccarty4327
    @michaelpatrickmccarty4327 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Most excellent bowhunting advice, and I could not agree more. As a tournament archer for many years, I can assure you that it is very difficult to "unlearn" that style of shooting.
    For one thing, my mind is so finely trained to hit center that It's all I can do to force my shot down to hit the heart or low in the lungs. As you know, a hit that's a little high of center can cause all kinds of problems. Shooting at game is a whole different ballgame - just take a look at the techniques of Fred Bear or Howard Hill to name just a couple (of bowhunting legends). They took more animals than I could ever hope to take, with equipment that most people would not know what to do with. I'm "just" a bowhunter now, and I wish I could shoot more like you do...

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. Glad you liked the video

  • @bradlauber9097
    @bradlauber9097 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this video and informative information!!! Makes sence. I know what works for you may not work for onther archers as everyone is physically built different. If you are getting great results and hitting where you want to, dont change.. Acurrate shot placement is the key to sucsess!!!

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      agree 100% And thank you

  • @SeasonsChange24
    @SeasonsChange24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great stuff. People try to choke everyone into a cookie cutter form when it doesn’t have to be like that.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yep! Many different ways to shoot a bow and the only one that matters is what works best for you.

  • @stevencunningham4680
    @stevencunningham4680 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tell it like it is and do what works for you. That's my way of shooting just as it is yours. Great philosophy.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well said. Merry Christmas

  • @jamescooper2618
    @jamescooper2618 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's why I shoot a traditional bow, simplicity and versatility. Compound shooters are locked in to a rigid form and must install their trelease aid each time. I find it very limiting to a hunting situation.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree. Trad is simple and effective

  • @robshipley7543
    @robshipley7543 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I cant the bow as well I’m a hunter not a target shooter I hunt for meat I don’t worry about horns my form is horrible and I don’t use back tension either my style works for me

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep whatever works best for you is what is important. Its a stick and a string. There are no rules. Just use it to fill the freezer best as you can!

  • @charlesgray372
    @charlesgray372 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My best friend has his own style. We call it Crouching Tiger. You shoot upright compared to him. He too only cares about hunting.
    I shoot 3d tournaments and got caught up in the "perfect form" crap. It adversely effected my hunting.
    I went back to how I shot when I started 30 years ago. I am shooting better than ever.
    I now shoot a 60 inch longbow and have a 2'oclock cant while bending at the waist. It's how I shoot from a stand or the ground.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep big difference between target and hunting stance.

    • @charlesgray372
      @charlesgray372 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SamkoTradBow I'm in it for hunting!

  • @michaellane4003
    @michaellane4003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good tips! It looks like you have a great working system. Nice heavy arrows too.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it

  • @eddiealvarez5493
    @eddiealvarez5493 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TB , your the Man! your speaking all truth. keep it coming!! 👊

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @bradlauber9097
    @bradlauber9097 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have used two blade broadheads for a long time. How are the bloodtails with a 2 blade compared to a 3 blade? Thats with a pass through double long mid chest lower exit? Looking at the 2 blade ozcut elite 150 grain

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only killed one deer with a 3 blade and it was not a pass thru. So can't really compare. But I have killed well over 100 animals with 2 blades and have been very happy with the blood trails. Especially with a 1.25 or 1.5 inch wide 2 blade. They penetrate well, pass theu 95$ of the time, leave good blood and fit better in my quiver as well as sharpen faster. That's why I stay with a 2 blade.

    • @bradlauber9097
      @bradlauber9097 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SamkoTradBow your a great help,, Thank you

  • @waterlogged6775
    @waterlogged6775 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video with a real world perspective and not following the crowd. Real world in the woods!!! Practicing like that makes harvesting game achievable. Thanks.

  • @rblackmore1445
    @rblackmore1445 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hell yeah brother!! stiff is the only way to go! if you want penetration you dont want jiggle. only a steady straight shaft can deliver so much power!
    alot of people neglect the importance of shooting at distances like 3 meters to work on how clean and straight you can let the arrow leave the bow before anything else!
    im shooting a 50# @31" on abut 32 and a half inches of draw and the only arrow that can leave the bow straight is something close to 350 spine

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great points! And you are right more people should test at 3 yards and see what the arrow does. then at 4 and 5 and 6 etc. that will show them the yardage where the shaft is flying perfect.

    • @rblackmore1445
      @rblackmore1445 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SamkoTradBow straight arrow flight is just everything....
      every second the arrow isnt flying straight is power lost and it snawballs with distance
      From what I have read on forums I see hunters generally prefer heavier arrows.
      Which is understandable because it just carries more mass with it but I have seen it also seems to make trajectory more pronounced ofcourse... its a heavier arrow, but also more predictable and "equaly bent" along the arc in a way, because it doesnt slow down as much as a lighter arrow.

  • @kellyspann9845
    @kellyspann9845 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. I shoot my bow the same way as you at a canter. I’ve been shooting that way for about forty years. I’ve been laughed at too. I tell them shoot the way that they are most comfortable. I’m sure not going to change now.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep. I do think its funny how there are people that want to tell me what I'm doing is wrong. I have never told anyone ever in my life that they are shooting a bow wrong..lol

  • @kevinemard5370
    @kevinemard5370 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im the same way i bareshaft paper tune and then use 4" feathers with poor form too

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, we strive for pure perfect arrow flight and then rely on fwsthers to save us in those tricky situations.

  • @fordprefect1130
    @fordprefect1130 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How is it that so many say “ traditional “ but then shoot alloys or carbon , inserts, screw on broadheads and parabolic fletching?

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Are we supposed to wear loin cloth buckskins and stone points

  • @monte4150
    @monte4150 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The brutal honesty! Lol learning so much from you.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣🤣 glad you are enjoying the videos

  • @mattsteed8015
    @mattsteed8015 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Extremely good video, slam packed with the truth. Good stuff.

  • @robsarchery9679
    @robsarchery9679 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great info.Plastic fletching suck

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I'm not a fan of the plastic vanes either

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @The Good Life yep feathers fold flat where as plastic vanes do not and can bounce

  • @robertdeis132
    @robertdeis132 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are there any reasons why you shouldn't use lighted nocks?

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lighted nock work great. They are just expensive. Bit they work great

  • @johndaileytraditionalarcher
    @johndaileytraditionalarcher 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video I do test my tune for hunting situations and all I care about is the end result meat in the freezer. And again awesome video

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well said and agree completely! Fill that freezer!

  • @baghalman
    @baghalman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When will the wide cut head from Tuffhead be available?

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Looks like next year. He is sending me a prototype to test here soon. But I think the final production version will be ready for next hunting season

    • @tuffheadbroadheads31
      @tuffheadbroadheads31 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Traditional Bowhunting And Wilderness Podcast we have some designs complete. We are working out production. Hope to have a release for next fall

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tuffheadbroadheads31 so excited!

  • @theoriginaldavid6969
    @theoriginaldavid6969 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hope you watch the video lol

  • @rodvisser1580
    @rodvisser1580 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That’s what I’m talking about 🤩

  • @bowmanw1839
    @bowmanw1839 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your vids. Unorthodox like me. 😁

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It'd a good way to be!

  • @ralphwesser8795
    @ralphwesser8795 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I experimenting with your shooting style versus what I have been doing, shooting bow vertical. So far, I find your style way more comfortable and natural. I am using a recurve and I am wondering whether you see advantages with shooting a longbow.

    • @ralphwesser8795
      @ralphwesser8795 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looking at your other videos about longbows, it looks like forgiveness is a key advantage of a longbow.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think my style is better with a longbow. I could shoot a recurve vertical if I wanted and did for a bit in the early days. But with a longbow and the very short sight window I can not shoot a longbow vertically to save my life..lol Glad you are giving it a shot and enjoying it.

  • @mattthadd4663
    @mattthadd4663 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you tried aae trad vanes? They’re pretty nice.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have not. Neverbhad a problem with feathers even in the rain. So no hurry to try something else. But I hear good things about the trad vanes.

  • @craigbell8617
    @craigbell8617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for your common sense videos for real hunters

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. Glad you are enjoying them

  • @michiganmikeupnorth
    @michiganmikeupnorth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Houghton lake! Glad you're still here brother.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep fir another 5 years or so. Then will see where life takes us..lol