Mental health: young people say care system is ‘failing’
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- A survey of hundreds of young people with severe mental health issues has found that most had to deal with very poor levels of care in NHS hospitals.
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Fewer than one in ten said that they'd had a positive experience.
Those are the findings from the charity Mind, which have been shared exclusively with this programme.
Many talk of dealing with problems such as untrained staff, being sent far away from their families and the overuse of physical restraints.
20-year-old Freya is one such example. She has been treated in six mental health inpatient units and described her experiences to us.
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The mental health system is a joke. The nurses who came out to me needed help more than I did
I think she's great for doing this interview. The anxiety and stress I get from being in front of a camera is unbelievable
This world is a very cold place.
If you dont take care of your mental health no one will.
I was in a hospital a bunch of times but i received NO help from them.
In fact,they only made my situation WORSE.
It was my OWN EFFORTS that healed my problems and my own self care.
Absolutely need to fall in love with ourselves. Sadly our parents couldn’t do that for us, bastards
My parents took care of my physical needs but spiritual needs i had to always take care of myself.@@goych
@@thewanderingjew1793 I agree mostly, it is our own work, we are after all the ones who suffer! But there are allies to be found along the way
Thanks for the kind words man.Appreciate it.@@thewanderingjew1793
I’ve been waiting 7 months for an appointment I should have had long, long ago.
It took me 6 years 4 healthcare avenues, and many people blocking me to get a psychologist appointment…
an appointment I’ve heard nothing about, a month after I should have had it.
The mental health system isn’t failing.
IT HAS FAILED.
@@dc56789 I don’t doubt your problems are palpable, but if you were jumping off a boat in Dover I think you’d have much bigger problems than being a Brit in need of some mental health support.
I know our issues feel huge to us personally so I’m not trying to minimise your experience at all, just challenge it a little.
You’re obviously well educated, have access to internet and are confident to speak on it which is all great.
Some people jumping off boats in Dover only have what they can carry in their hands, some have watched their families die, their neighbourhoods demolished…
If you think people worse off than you getting the help they need from our great country, then I think your perspective may be out of alignment.
I’d have far more sympathy for you if you were more focused on you and not hating those considerably worse off.
Your anger should be directed at the government running this country into the ground, not the suffering people coming here because they think we are “Great” Britain.
And stop watching SKY, BBC, and right wing papers FFS. That won’t help your mental health at all mate.
Focus on getting you better mate, not making other worse.
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@@GNa-hi1yx just make your damn point 🤷🏼♂️
Its been failing for decades. This is by no means a new issue. Yet they’ll still blame covid for their own incompetence
She's not wrong, they pacify you until you're 'cleared' and thrown back out again.
Mental health issues need addressing immediately in this country ASAP!
True. However some people do abuse it.
@@richardsantos7356 How many? At what costs? Be precise.
@@richardsantos7356and some people are dying because of the incompetence of mental health services
No they don’t need addressing at all. In fact I hope the mental issues only get far worse, to the point that absolute chaos completely consumes the health system and annihilates this entire world. You should want to see the youth ruined and consumed by darkness. Hail Satan.
I empathise with Freya’s story. I’ve seen this played out many times.
its hard to be alive right now
Seriously?? Once upon a time people with mental illness and disabilities were shackled to chairs and left in their own filth.
If you are personally having a hard time i am sorry to hear that. As someone whos been an inpatient and outpatient and lived alot of my life i can promise you that whatever you are going through, you will reach the other side of it and you will look back and wish you could tell your younger self what you know now...that it gets better
Ikr
Yeah. What a world.
@@jacoboc2244 fax gotta elivate an become a god from a sucidel unhappy peasnt to the oppersite yin yang baby perfectly balenced as all things are an will forever be
Yes it is but the harder it gets the more you stand up and share your feelings loved one ❤
I work in mental health, and I can confirm, the MAJORITY of cases can emphasise with Freya. Even the nurses, psychiatrists, etc, I have spoken to behind the scenes are equally as let down by the system.
a good kick up the backside wouldn't go amiss
@@thewanderingjew1793 The psychiatrists, nurses, etc, aren’t in charge of mental health services, it’s the government who dictate how the NHS is run.
Kudos to all young people trying to manage their mental and physical health
You know people only seem to care as long as you're having a mental breakdown or openly show signs of extreme distress that make it look convincing you're gonna harm yourself. Silent sufferers like me go unnoticed. And I don't care what you think because I know I'm suffering nevertheless.
Even then people don’t care. People only care when you’re dead
I mean ,,, I struggled I was inches away from dea*h and they told me they’d help me for a week and off I’d go exposed to all those lovely mental health instruments that people use as an alternative to being helped??? *cu**ing yourself*
It’s ridiculous the system
It literally takes you hurting someone for them to take you seriously, theres still so much stigma around mental health. im trying to talk with real psychologists on my own, and its been a struggle, so im with you.
When I had a breakdown (which was the result of a 10-year hate campaign I was subjected to for trying to get reasonable adjustments) I intentionally kept my suicidal thoughts to myself for fear of what would happen to me if I was sectioned. That was 6 years ago. It was harmful for me to keep those thoughts to myself but it was the lesser evil. The more I hear stories like this the more I feel I did the right thing. People need safe spaces to talk about whatever they're going through. I tell my story in an article I've written for The British Journal For Social Work titled "The Dangers of Not Informing People of Their Rights"
Pretty much my story. I had to take an overdose before the GP took any notice of my pleas to see a health worker. That was in c1976. It’s even worse nowadays.
When people go for mental health appointments. They write down on the reviews what clothes you are wearing what hair style you wearing what type of shoes you wearing what colours are your nails! That is not necessary and needs to be scapped. They need to get to the point of the patients situation and not stop this interrogation and start to get qualified people to do the jobs properly. They need to step up ! Poor girl waiting 5 years to find out if she has autism oh my god look at that??? They need to start rooting out the unqualified workers now including the GPS! People needs to be going under cover to expose them!!!
I agree with you 100%! There are too many sociopaths in mental health "care" to the point it undermines the purpose of the field.
Yeah I've been waiting 3 years for an autism diagnosis it's the common experience unfortunately. This country sucks
Has been for the past 50 years. I am an adult who is still recovering from the abuse thay took place to me in care of local authorities.
I have witnessed clients of the mental health charity i used to work for treated with indifference and/or contempt by some inpatient nurses when visiting hospitalised clients. We, as support workers, often felt we were considered to be a nuisance or lesser. In fact we had excellent in house training, possibly rather better than that received by many qualified nurses. Some of the best training sessions were delivered by service users.
In the UK when your car breaks down we call the AA but when the person breaks down we tell them their lazy ! There is no "Great Britain" just little old Britain .
Called the crisis team to get urgent help for my teenage child in Kent, They said I would receive a call back in half an hour. It's been a year and a half, still waiting.
How is your child now? Sorry to hear that x
@jakesmith-bs4jd He is OK. We are coping as best we can. Thanks for asking.
@newyoutubeaccount2023 what else can you do in a crisis?
@newyoutubeaccount2023F U tw*t mental health people are not of a sound mind
Everything under the Tories is failing, get them out!
Yes, it was much better under Labour when we started the never ending wars in Iraq and Afghanistan over bullshit, committed atrocities, spent money which could have spent on building up NHS resources. Also Labour decided it would be a swell idea to let it a flood of migrants adding further pressure to the state entities like the NHS without thinking about the future. They also didn't consider how it would impact housing costs. But, no, everything is all the Tories fault. Labour are saints. They are both sets of self serving cretins because they are politicians. If you think any party wants to save you, then I am a Nigerian Prince needing a small loan.
I do wonder why the younger generations exhibit increased levels of psychological issues, food for thought indeed.
Social media and ALL the different types of significant damage it's caused? Climate change? Pandemic? Knife crime? Record drop in living standards? Just a few reasons for starters.
because the brain isn't fully developed until you're 25.
The internet and low capacity for frustration.
@@thewanderingjew1793 Why the need to be insulting towards elderly people? Do you have mental health issues?
It's similar or worse in the Czech Republic. The psychiatrists still don't think about the patients like about the people, and their main role is to give you some random drugs. And the mental disease, or mental difference is a big stigma. So, people in the Czech Republic are often still devided in the mental hospitals, where is almost only care provided by drugs, and there are also people, who earn money for foolies, because the people with mental disease, or difference are stigmatized by people in the mental hospitals.
Modern life drives you fooking crazy.
Feels almost like a soulless computer game nowadays.
This is sad but not surprising the uk is an absolute mess health in UK is a mess because nobody wants to take responsibility and pass you around just so they have a job or employer people who are don't act there age or take role seriously amount people who seen been in distress and the people who are there to help sniggering or making Sligh remarks about it is a disgrace
Well it's June 2024 and as someone who has worked in our NHS mh services for 12 years, nothing imo has changed in a meaningful way. Thank goodness for the charities and community services doing out reach work. I have an interview tomorrow with a youth charity and Im genuinely excited of the prospect of working for an organisation that aligns with my values. Freya you did sich an amazing job articulating your experience. I hope you are well and life is treating you good :)
been waiting over 2 years for my Autism assessment. so much worry and stress.
The care system is an absolute disgrace they are completely ignoring mentaly ill people who want to desperately die
It is. They don't care about helping people.
Yes, it's very obvious
Autistic people really get so little support nowadays... it seems like it's getting worse and worse for the younger people too.
I didn’t even get the option to go away, my boyfriend was having an asthma attack, first off the lady on the phone. Told me to be quiet. Was being passive aggressive. And she hung up without any warning!!!! WHILST HE WAS TRYING TO BREATHE! he has autism, the way he copes with more than one person speaking, he couldn’t do it! When we got to the hospital nhs the only one nearby… they told him that he was just having an allergy attack!?!? What?! He couldn’t breathe! just because he’s ok at dealing with himself with pain… doesn’t mean you shouldn’t look into it, and thirdly, guess what! We had to wait 5 hours for an inhaler! And if he had an attack… then they’d give him one and direct oxygen. Ironic isn’t it why can’t they just grab one ??? useless 😃🙌 additionally. I had mental health issues I c*t myself with a st*nley kn*fe and they helped for week after being told I was millimetres away from dy*ing 😊 “oh how I love the nhs they do so much”
The care system is completely broken for every one young and old 😭
It definitely is....
System has been broken for years....no treatment just tablets....
How true....
I am aged 45. There was no mental health services as a child .
As a result I have been failed . I had a nervous breakdown to get my ADHD detected February 2020, having had diagnoses of dyspraxia and Aspergers traits. I received a diagnosis of ADHD, in August 2020, 100 miles away , privately , NHS waiting time 4.5 years +, many psychiatrists would not assess me because of my dyspraxia and Aspergers traits diagnoses.
A speech therapist, thought I had dyspraxia, early 2002, I thought it was just being clumsy , there were symptoms of ADHD.
A psychologist was quite sure in Summer 2003, I thought I had mild / moderate Asperger’s syndrome ( I have mild / moderate ADHD & Aspergers traits).
I had a non - standard NHS diagnosis of Aspergers traits , correct result , badly done over 20 years ago , one GP, thought would not allow me to have an assessment citing cost , another GP, found a loophole closed in 2005.
Having learned about adult dyspraxia, I had to have a private diagnosis aged 33 in May 2012, my GP would not accept the report . If I had the diagnosis later , my ADHD would have been flagged up .
I counselling for severe generalised anxiety disorder and depression in Spring 2014, given horrible medication, did not take it.
I got a degree aged 20, 1999, pgdip 2000.
none of these people are offering the solutions that young men need
young men need to stop being so desperate for male validation and treat the girls and women in their life with basic respect.
I remember in 2020 the mental health team discharged me and handed me over to the gp apparently they say nothing is wrong with me. After I've been diagnosed with ptsd in 2015. The mental health team wanted nothing to do with me i don't know why .the gp called me and said nothing is wrong with me and she wanted to stop the medication I don't know why. I felt like a terrorist, I was tortured over the phone by the gp with her words. I was raped as a child , I started taking drugs and alcohol throughout my life. Something terribly happened to Me that I won't write on here. If that gp and mental health team was qualified do you think I would be discharged and then face with discrimination from the gp . I hope that gp and mental health team and families go through the same things I've been through there and then they will know how I feel. Because someone doesn't have a cut across their face and doesn't have black teeth in their mouths or is not in a wheelchair it doesn't mean that someone is not going through something. But karma will locate that mental health team and gp. All this happens in 2020 its 2023 now and I'm still offended!!
When I was 26 I experienced severe trauma.
I'm 31 now and I've never received help on the NHS. I went private for two years. And lost everything
After 4 years on that list I got a referral for talk therapy.....
Damage was done
I don’t think it’s failing. For someone who has anxiety and depression myself, I always get the help I need.
Put a mentally stable healthy man into mental care, they’ll f his shits f his life up
I would love to take care of her and support her with everything I got
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This isnt meant to be said with the intention of gaining sympathy or pity, but this video and many other videos of a similiar nature is literally the reason why I will minimize the state of my anxiety/mental health conditions when im asked if im okay by other people, because even if im in crisis point ive heard enough stories of people having horrific inpatient mh experiences which left them feeling even more upset/traumatized than before they went into a mental health care unit etc
The bigwigs of the NHS, the ones who's decision it is to split the money that they receive from the government are largely to blame.
Every year the NHS receives it's budget from the UK government.
Let's just say for argument's sake that figure is £400 billion.
Now Mental Health covers about a quarter of everything that the NHS does or is responsible for.
1 quarter of anything is obviously 25%, so therefore using the figure i suggested it would be a total of £100 billion required every year.
But in reality the Mental Health Services of the NHS only really receive about 10% of the annual budget. So, instead of being given the £100 billion that they so badly needed they are actually receiving less than half that amount.
In fact only about £40 billion.
And remember that this is just an example of how much Mental Health services under the NHS are being starved of the vitally important cash.
How do we go about changing this?
Well I am not really sure but I certainly think that we are better off with a Labour government that another 5 years of the Conservatives.
I'm so glad that I am able to pay for mental health care and thia has made wonders for me. But it's not the reality of most people in most countries. This is something that should be addressed
What job would be good and not make people's mental health worse? I thought of becoming a mental health nurse but the reviews of the job is conflicting. Can anyone share with me of their experience as someone with poor mental health that have went through any care/health assistance or someone that does a similar job?
It just shows how nasty and ignorant the uk politicians are
Working in A&E and I can full support the claim … they infest a lot of work force in A&E what leaves them with not enough or expensive external staff do deal with the preventative measure…. I feel so sry for the social and mental health worker what happen to them is Definitely not nice ….
I don't think some of the people working for mental some is qualified. they just got trained on the job and that's it. If they are not qualified they will never understand what someone is going through. In America everything is more advanced. The UK system is not strong enough to help people with mental problems. And I heard someone's memory was deteriorating remembering where they are and do. . A friend said she might have dementia. She told the gp and she sent her to Do blood tests. I never know to find out if you have dementia its true blood test. So now the person is completely losing their mind . Even though 5 years before she was diagnosed with ptsd and on some medication. But now he has gotten worse. So I don't know what type of system is this in uk.
USA has no NHS and plenty of the public and private psych facility staff are just whatever warm bodies the facility can find. Dealing with tons of red tape, ridiculous regulations, as well as aggressive, combative patients makes for a lot of burnout, so facilities have to hire pretty much whoever as long as they don't have felonies.
Mental health problems do exist but it’s completely exasperated. Institutionalised is the perfect word for the problem caused by the current brutish push of the mental health sector.
Before you would hit hard times and find grace, now people are treated like something is wrong with the individual for recognising problems in life and being a mood about it which locks them in a cycle of despair and dependancy instead. Any honest person will admit that psychiatry is a theoretical field, you’re essentially a case study for further development of the field.
They’re grooming young people.
What should have been a development for ill people has become a way to control the general public and inflate a new market.
Bless her
You can't magically de-escalate people any more than you can magically un-depress people or magically reorient people with Alzheimer's. Do you want the staff to stand by and "listen with respect" while the patients cut or starve themselves?
Agreed I was a student nurse on a psychiatric ward almost 20 years ago and it is a very complex and difficult to manage situation as everyone there has specific needs and 'challenging behavior'
you dont lay hands on people unless it is absolutely necessary. gonna listen to the girl who has gone though it before a random youtube commenter.
@@twolessba1087 The psych patient has been committed to the hospital because she ISN'T of sound mind. That means she can't legally make her own health decisions. She's there because a shoulder to cry on and a pep talk didn't cut it. If she doesn't comply with the psych hospital's program, she'll be shipped to the regular hospital, orders will be written, and a feeding tube will be inserted down her nose into her small intestine. If she pulls the tube out, more orders will be written and wrist and mitt restraints will be applied so that she doesn't pull her feeding tube out. It's up to hospital staff to be the bad guys and get yelled, punched, and kicked at so that the psych patient can be saved from death by self- starvation.
@@user-bc7nx3mm8z It's really a catch 22, because the staff can also be terminated or lose their licenses if they DON'T physically intervene to stop a patient from harming themselves! Some of these facilities in the USA have to staff with agency nurses because they can't get staff. These nurses are supposed to "redirect" the clients without using any physical contact, but are still expected to do things such as escort the patients from one building to another without them running away!
@@jacoboc2244 your brother now has a Kundalini spirit and needs to repent of his witchcraft my friend Jesus Christ is Lord and the Holy Spirit is the only Spirit we need
3 years to get an appointment for me
Where are her parents? and what have they been doing. What has created this nonsense situation. It is only three generations ago that the same age group, like my father and FIL were literally fighting a war at 18. I think a lot of this comes own to smart phones and the internet, we would help people, especially young people to restrict their access to these.
EVERYTHING is failing.....
It's interesting that there is only one male who talked throughout that whole video. Very gender specific, which I'm also guessing was also a factor in who you and MIND asked about their mental health and how they were treated.
The mental health services in the UK are the same as they have been for a long time in the UK and just to get back to the gender issue, males are more likely to suffer from mental health and worse, which I'm sure Cathy Newman should know by now if not she needs another schooling by Jordan Peterson
Jordan Peterson? The man's a moron. He's either saying something totally obvious that everyone knows already like "stand up straight and clean your room" or something completely loopy like "women can't be leaders because this one guy got lobsters really stoned." Nobody takes his pop psychology seriously except a couple far right meninists.
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What care system?
Freya's story is THE textbook girls with autism story. Not good enough
Doctors havent got a clue about mental heath the system is pathetic
If mental health “specialists” didn’t say it was okay to we weak not this many people would be suffering from it. Take a look at your own grandparents, I’m pretty sure they didn’t have all the toys that grownups play now days.
sad
I van vouch to say as my video explains my experience with the care system is awful
Wow the uk is messed up
You dont say 😮
poor girl what a nightmare
Yes, and it’s mainly the older generation that are going to be paying the price. Because being busy seems to be an excuse not to take life seriously anymore.
I gotta say, here in New York the place I go to "Federation" is very helpful.
tally of men high wages is a long with inflation and land slides a burden
You are on your own unfortunately. Keep your mental health in check.
A beautiful young woman
Imagine trying to do everything right in life, work hard pay your taxes obey the law and then you can be homeless at any point, that's what is thought of us citizens in the uk. You'd think we'd deserve better in return, its not alot to ask for everybody deserves a roof, the british public first!
Trying to do life right is the problem, life doesn’t care if you do it right or not
@@goych that's exactly how the government want you to think 🙄
*"It is NO measure of Health to be well-adjusted to a profoundly SICK Society"* ~ _Jiddu Krishnamurti_
Well said.
Instead of making war around the world we need to come together and make peace ❤so that we all can heal theworld !❤😂 amen ! ❤
Yes spend another 100 miilion pounds on a party. That will solve these problems.
Tories don't think mental health is real so unfortunately not surprised .
#letautismbeautism #depression #trauma #intervention #nhs #homelessness #suicide #anxiety #help #actuallyautistic #trauma
In before the title is changed from ‘mental health’
Still waiting
Don’t blame mental health services for this, tories have continued to underfund and under resource mental health services.
Bad nurses manager Dr in charge service do care about patients in community let o zero
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Where are the parents? Take some responsibility and stop relying on the government for everything.
Everyone is a bit mental. Embrace it 🤷
True true true 😂
this is not helpful
Cringe take
@@Rory626 C'mon Rory. Dance with me. Makes you feel good 👯♂️
@@hmq9052 Haha, rory’s too self conscious to dance
As much as I respect her… you’re in these places for a purpose for you to stabilise. Talking to someone calmly in that situation ain’t going to work 95% of the time. She’s there because she’s ill… you don’t go into a&e and tell them how to operate on ur heart
That’s a stupid comparison. People deserve respect.
Islam is the source of peace. Hence so many young people reverting thousands are becoming Muslim across the UK. Five daily prayers is the solution.
Regardless of religion daily meditation (5 times a day even better!) has helped more people then medication, and you won't go nuts if you "miss" a day of treatment. I know that if I miss a day of ssri medication I get emotional and a commercial can bring me to tears, day 2 is when the dizziness and unsteady gait start. Upon day 3 come the brain zaps in addition to all of the above increasing in severity as the days go on.
In other words pretty much dysfunctional by day 2, if I had known this I would've pressured the Dr for alternate treatments.
It's TRUE 5 Xa Day prayers is a GOOD MEDICATION....coz...at the END of the Day....(We only Live Temporarily...in this WORLD..)..
That religion is the complete opposite
The mental health system is not fit for purpose, and it’s not just limited to young adults. I am 56 and recently served four months in prison as a result of holding a knife to my own throat, in my own home, whilst having an episode. I was Tasered by the police, held at the police station for over 48 hours and taken to court. During this time, I asked repeatedly to see a doctor who could prescribe the nine medications that I take daily for my mental health. When I arrived in prison I was put in isolation on the medical wing and again I asked repeatedly for a doctor to prescribe my med’s, I subsequently went in to withdrawal. It took ten days from the time of my arrest until I received my med’s, putting my physical and mental health in jeopardy. Whilst incarcerated I had regular sessions with a forensic phycologist and actually felt that I was finally getting some much-needed help and was assured that upon my release my psychiatrist and mental health team would “pick up where they left off”, that was FIVE MONTHS ago and guess what!
how will your mental health be when u get conscripted to fight russia very soon