Nine Inch Nails’ The Downward Spiral in 5 Minutes | Liner Notes
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- The Downward Spiral helped turn Trent Reznor into one of the biggest rock stars in the world, and helped bring a new level of sonic experimentation into the pop realm. But its greatest accomplishment is showing what’s possible when an artist is willing to dig deep into the darkest corners of their psyche, and share with the world what they find there.
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Nine Inch Nails’ The Downward Spiral (in 5 Minutes) | Liner Notes
Closer isn't about BDSM. It's the point in the album where the character is completely overtaken by the monstrosity of his actions. Reznor has confirmed this himself.
I feel that too, like it's taking over and he asks for help like a werewolf transforming.
I 100% believe that it would make an amazing bit of Cinema properly scripted in a format likened to Pink Floyd's The Wall. People would finally Understand what literally any of the songs are about with out Hundreds of Listens and Countless Hours pouring over the lyrics and reading Dissertations on the topic.
What am I saying, No they wouldnt :x
yes! i got into a heated discussion about this and the other person wouldn't believe me.
Its at the point where his self worth is at rock bottom and his self hatred is at it's peak. He has sex as one of the last ways to feel something (similar to Hurt), with a partner he doesn't respect. She's controlling him using sex.
"It's supernegative and superhateful," he explains. "It's 'I am a piece of shit and I am declaring that and if you think you want me, here I am.'"
I think this song is VERY spiritual. It‘s the struggle of the earthly primitive Anima vs the higher self and the synthesis of both. This was my first thought.
The concept of this album is basically an interpretation of the human mind going through insanity and leading eventually to suicide. This is one of the best albums of the 90s. Favorite Nine Inch Nails album next to The Fragile. My favorite tracks are Closer,Hurt,March Of The Pigs,Piggy,Big Man With A Gun,Reptile,and Eraser
What about heresy?? GOODDD ISSS DEAADDDDDDDD, AND NOOOOOOOOONE CAARRRREEESSS
Nice Mr bungle profile picture btw
@@RhysGBiv Bungle is my jam
This is one of those timeless album's where nothing has sounded like it before, and nothing has sounded like it since.
Spindles15 Broken
You need to listen more music
watchmore tell me an album similar to TDS with same darkness and quality material
@@vasvas8914 Swans - Filth
Foetus - Nail
Throbbing Gristle - Journey Through A Body
Suicide - Suicide
Einsturzende Neubauten - 1/2 Mensch
@@snowcardinal2632 Not even similar each entry you just listed lacks a lot of what makes nine inch nails unique.
One of my fav albums ever.
This and Antichrist Superstar are for sure the best out there aside from anything Maynard.
Same.
This album is insane. It’s one of those albums that people should experience but you don’t recommend. They have to discover it themselves.
It’s a mainstream pop record. Not some hidden gem. Lmao
I remember buying the Downward Spiral in July 1994 and listening to it on my headphones at night from start to finish. It was a musical journey like no other. I had listened to Closer many times on the radio earlier that year when it first came out. It was an unorthodox and unapologetic sonic trip which transported me to another world. A world of darkness, despair and acceptance that echoed my own life at the time. I entered into adulthood by this album. I also entered a new state of consciousness. As I look back, now in my 40's, there was my life before TDS and life after. It is the single most significant piece of music I have ever experienced. I am thankful to Trent for making my life after so much more interesting.
One of the single greatest albums of all time
So true
not even the best NIN album imo. the fragile is way better (particularly the first disc)
Piggy is about Richard Patrick and his choice to leave the band in 1993 to start Filter, not about the Manson murders.
This album is a MUST listen to in 5.1 audio, life changing!
I agree completely! Trent should really remix/remaster all of the NIN back catalogue in 5.1.
He's been teasing The Fragile in 5.1 for a decade now, I lost all hope.
I still hold some hope. Or at least I would very, __very__ much like it to be released. I think the Fragile would sound amazing in 5.1.
No mention of Reptile tho...
Timothy Akins or Ruiner, The Becoming, Eraser ;)
Souless Memelord Mine too. It’s the song that got me into NIN!
REPTILE
Samantha Donaldson that’s the best song on the album 👍🏻👍🏻👌🏻👌🏻
The Closer music video is insane to this day. We watched it in an Experimental film class at college, it’s that out there. The visuals combined with those lyrics create one of the most uncomfortable feelings I’ve felt watching something I consciously know is brilliant.
It's this kind of darkness and aggression that's missing from the mainstream today.
won't give up it wants me dead
and goddamn this noise inside my head
zer0 95 insane fuckin track!
such an incredible and influential 90s record and its kind of haunting to listen to when you know where it was recorded
it pisses me off how beautiful and legit it is but then you see people listening to Cash's version Cashing in on the success of it and as a NIN fan you can't even anymore
god dammit CASH, ffs
+MegaCrasherMusic I simply hate the fact that it is rarely recognized as Trent's song, not Cash's and he knew why he covered it
and that pisses me of, I don't even care about CASH as a musician
that meaning I have absolutely no opinion on his stuff in case you're already heating up, bruv
oh and I steal memes, I don't "get" em
subs not dubs
xoxo
cash version is amazing, but i prefer nins version. I get what you saying, and maybe trent was politicaly correct to ``give `` the song to Cash. Still the song was written by the genius trent, so he should take more credit. who gives a shit its just music in the end , and the world is unfair. well shit
+joao faial too true bruv
This album is up there with the greatest of all time...glad I was here for this one..
The man is a musical genius. He hasn't released a bad album in 28 years.
Trent Reznor is a genius. There's no denying that. Period.
I've never been into NIN but I think I'll start listening to them!
Jonathan Gillis highly recommended.
Won't regret! ;)
@@DarlikaDor I haven't! The Fragile is now my favorite album of all time
@@jonathangillis4926 still your favourite?
U should
Dude you got this all wrong the downward spiral has nothing to do with violence at all its about escapism from depression as it follows a tail of a man going on a DOWNWARD SPIRAL to suicide and the pigs are representations of the thoughts that plague his mind. None of this album is related to the Manson murders as he stated in many interviews and fyi the broken EP came before TDS
Music is subjective. I see it as a man's descent into the depths of the human condition, using this it tells the tale of a broken man warped by greed, society, and lust for sexual pleasure, eventually culminating with his suicide on "The Downward Spiral" track. Hurt then serving as a heart wrenching post-mortem/suicide note or such. However I can see both your interpretation as valid and Pitchfork's
This.
Downward Spiral is my all time favorite album, hands down.
Beautifully done, Pitchfork. Exile On Main St. next. Pink Moon wouldn't be bad, either.
kaisamsa PINK FUCKING MOON
Best fuckin album! I still remember getting into nin & listening to it on repeat at a time in my life when everything was going to shit & getting worse, i was sad, angry & careless
Happy 30th anniversary to a classic album
One of the best albums of all time
You managed to talk about everything around the album without talking about the album.
Because It’s pitchfork
An absolute masterpiece.
Avalanches - Since I Left
PLEASE MOTHER OF GOD
you are here too wtf
he’s everywhere
I don't remember Trent ever denying he knew the history of the mansion.
2002 , My moms friend had this CD hidden in the car. I remember how serious of a light they painted it in . After that it was set, there was no way we weren’t hearing it .
I remember waiting weeks for the perfect time to be left alone in the car long enough to fish it out and figure out what all the fuss was about.
One of those visceral moments that warmly stays with me . We were directly parked in front of a job they were doing . Through glass we were watching them eviscerating gigantic trees with big commercial saws and trimmers .
to hear that album on the Volvo s90 Harman k speakers while watching that through glass in the broad stark daylight stuck with me.
Get chills every time I hear hurt goddamn
Thanks to al involved for making this series. I love it
Are we just gonna ignore that the downward spiral is a story about a character and a damned good one at that
At the time it came out, I just listened to it and enjoyed it. Long time passed, it was only within the last 10 ish years or so that I started really listening to it and getting the meaning of it, and that's only due to some tragic / terrible things that happened in my life. The album I believe flies by people as just 'music' and they don't think about it. To me, it really tied together and now I can see how each album has it's own theme and purpose. Last thing: this video is a bit trash, as the research is all off. Listen to Reznor talk about the album, he lays it out for you.
I remember when I was a kid and first heard Johnny cash’s version of hurt with my parents I told them it was an NIN song but they wouldn’t believe me lol!!
Plz do - Boards of Canada - Music has the Right to Children
Nah Geogaddi all day~
I always thought the track “Piggy”.Was about Richard Patrick...
You COMPLETELY misunderstand the album.
It's a concept album, based on a guy who'se given up on the world. He has given up on society--authority, religion, and everything else that controls an individual. His girlfriend cheats on him (Reptile) and then he kills himself. Hurt isn't about addiction or anything else--it's the regret of a dying man who has put a bullet in himself (in the track before Hurt), and he's singing away his last moments.
Maybe Antichrist Superstar by Manson next? A lot of crazy stories behind the recording of that album.
Fuck yeah. They stuck needles under their fingernails while performing and went days without sleeping.
Lil Penis He has done Marilyn Manson A Superstar
I still think this is the best album ever recorded
Clayton Wakefield true
One of em for sure
Clayton Wakefield , I think Rammstein's 1997 Sehnsucht is the best.
2:02: Trent looked pretty evil at one time.
Neither Piggy nor March of the Pigs were about the Tate murders. He admitted that calling his studio 'Le Pig' WAS a tasteless joke and apologized but those songs are clearly about something else.
I've always interpreted Piggy as being about his abuser, or somebody who was consenting/able to be affected by his abuse.
March Of The Pigs kind of follows this, by the protagonist realizing that others in society are (in his view) sexually dominated and restricted by morals and humanity. This sets up the stage for the Eraser to infect him and kill what little humanity remained in him.
The thing is: I can't figure out Nine Inch Nails, & I think that's why I like them so much.
Please do Remain in Light by Talking Heads or Odelay by Beck next!
MARILYN MANSON - MECHANICAL ANIMALS
PLEASE DO THIS BOI
how dare you not touch on the concept of the character of mr. self destruct that reznor portrays and we follow through with?
he has spoken to a generation of kids and adults alike with these important words of power aggression and emptiness and hopeful change.
he designed a mood of being. a religion almost.
So poorly researched and such little effort put into making this.
linglingjr Thank you!
Yea, I've got to agree with you
It's Pitchfork, they initially gave The Fragile a 2.0 out of 10, what else could you expect of them when doing a video about NIN?
linglingjr I was thinking the exact same thing.... Wasn't as in depth as I expected
Nidhikih2451 seriously? That's just plain wrong and a little stupid tbh
this is one of the most important albums ever released but its.... its so much better live.
This use to be my favorite NIN album and i still enjoy it very much. The Fragile is a master piece an album that new and old NIN fans are starting to realize its beauty. Could you do a video about The Fragile.
PearlJammer07 The Fragile, is the best NIN by far. A complete masterpiece
Listen to downward spiral to hesitation marks as it was written as the sequel to downward spiral
such an underrated series
favorite album of all time, nothing else like it
"Piggy" is not about the murders but about Richard Patrick.
Awesome.
Do "Aenima" by Tool next.
Or something Tool related for that matter.
Daniel Echávarri Lateralus much better
Anandy Qadarsyah As long as it is Tool, I'll be pleased.
Daniel Echávarri Pitchfork hates Tool though. They infamously gave Lateralus a 1.9 as far as I remember.
I swear if they do tool i will be so happy
They gave lateralus a 1.9
10k days a 5.6
And gave aenima a 2 but deleted the review
After a decade of a half of shitting on NIN and giving high praise to utter garbage such as Vampire Weekend, it's nice to see Pitchfork coming around and recognizing how great of an album the Downward Spiral is. I guess the album is now old enough to be considered "cool" by the hipster elite running the show.
Danny Provolone Fucking Right !
Vampire Weekend is good tho. Why do people constantly feel the need to tear down other bands when talking about how good one band is. Both nin and vw are amazing in their own ways
Because Pitchfork and hipsters sweated VW hard and shat on NIN.
objectively.
You should double-check the meaning of "Piggy"
still one of my favourite albums of all time
If this album was released today it would still be relevant. Its really a timeless album. It can't be pigeonholed because it doesn't sound like ANYTHING before or since..
The only thing close would be Ministry or AntChrist Super Star.. But Reznor had his hands all over that album too so really Ministry's "Psalm 69" is the only thing even "kinda" close in sound..
Nin ♥♥♥
Pig or Piggy was also the nickname of Richard Patrick who had left NIN to start Filter
Johnny cash’s version is inferior.. no disrespect intended, but Trent is wrong in saying it’s cash’s song.
sevzen no no, I think he literally sold it to Cash...
I dont think he was actually giving to him cause he also said "it's like someone kissing your girlfriend" i think he meant that cash made it his song
I don't think you can compare the two, they're almost different songs.
I agree and when Trent would play it live on just a piano a few tours back it sounded better and way more emotional and sad. I actually prefer that better than the original acoustic guitar version.
Agreed. I can't stand Johnny Cash's version. Part of what makes "Hurt" great is how it wraps up the album musically and thematically. When you remove the context, it loses its potency.
Your editing style really fits nin good job ^_^
4:06 A grammy nomination tells us nothing about quality though. It just means the song was popular at the time, which is a worthless statement imo.
Mark Andrew Nordstrom Im merely pointing out a Grammy doesnt tell you anything about the quality of an album; it just simply tells us it was popular at that time. And uhm.. where exactly did I ever stated this was my channel? If that was what your whole point was about: Good job, Captain Obvious!
Piggy is about Richard Patrick, NIN's former guitar player/backing vocalist that went on to start the band Filter.
Please do a Deftones one
Jagged yes, bump this comment
White Pony is a classic.
None of their albums are old enough to be considered "cool" by the hipster elite at Pitchfork. Give it another 10 years.
Adrenaline came out the year after this and Manson's Portrait and they've covered both of those.
Deftones has no substance. Might as well do Korn
Ya should do Blackstar
Thanks for this
do some pavement stuff
Piggy refers to Filters lead singer, who was really great friends with Trent until they fell out. not about the house. in anycase, he called him piggy.
It's funny to think Pitchfork used to hate NIN and now they're being generous enough to do a Liner Notes on them.
The remastered version of this album sounds fucking (good)ridiculous.
Have you Heard it on Vinyl, I assure you, a Remaster wasnt necessary. Just a Vinyl Copy.
I know there was a huge difference in the Pretty Hate Machine(2010 remaster vs OG) vinyls. I don't have an original Spiral vinyl just the reissue.
Thank you so much!!!! NIN are one of my favorite bands EVER and this record is just a masterpiece. These guys are legendary. One of the best!!
Westside Connection sampled Hurt in the song The Gangsta, The Killa, & The Dope Dealer
´March´ is NOT ´269 BPM´. It´s 135 BPM in 7/8.
I'm actually surprised about how many people has his mind open with NIN electronic-metal music, i'm proud :v
I liked this video even before I watched it!
I shared this video. That's how good it is!
due to this album being recorded in the spot where the manson family murders happend, this album may be haunted
I am not sure if this has been pointed out before, but wasn't Broken his 2nd album?
I should google before commenting. Broken is considered an EP even though it is entirely new music. I always thought of it as the 2nd album, but it technically isn't.
0:35 apparently he had no clue it was the 'Manson house' not sure if I believe it. I guess you get a good deal on murder houses though.
Bad Timing - Jim O'Rourke
Venice - Christian Fennesz
The Shape of Jazz to Come / Dancing in Your Head - Ornette Coleman
I Talk With the Spirits / The Inflated Tear - Rahsaan Roland Kirk
Monk's Dream - Thelonious Monk
A Rainbow in Curved Air - Terry Riley
Different Trains / Electric Counterpoint - Steve Reich
Yanqui U.X.O. - Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Left Hand Path / Clandestine - Entombed
Severed Survival / Mental Funeral - Autopsy
A Blaze in the Northern Sky / Goatlord - Darkthrone
() / Takk... - Sigur Ros
The Poll Winners - Barney Kessel
Junkyard - The Birthday Party
Seventeen Seconds / Faith - The Cure
classic
Piggy was Richard Patrick’s nickname. It’s referencing him.
Trent Reznor just looks so much better today.
Like some guy who got rich building a gym chain but great nevertheless
Prizrak2084: I am so sorry to say this but I honestly believe he looks best when he was depressed and did H. He obviously wasn‘t fine and he wasn‘t healthy but he seems the most creative to me in this time period. He looks hot af in the „Closer“ music video. It really makes my pantie melt. Also in „The perfect drug“. I don‘t like tanned gym Reznor. He looks more masculine now. But I prefer vulnerable and artsy.
Do The Fragile next
I dudnt know about the Interscope ties with Warner...no way!!!
Nice presentation!
1:32 that was the live video, not the music video. The music video was cancelled, it's kinda boring you can look up the footage and see why. He never said it was the music video so I'm not correcting him, just pointing that out
Such a wonderful, wonderful album by one of my all-time favorite bands 👍👍🍻
Do Distintergration by the Cure
2:20 only a politician could think Big Man with a Gun is pro violence, and not making fun of those people who need a big gun to feel like a man.
"Piggy" isn't about Sharon Tate. It's about Richard Patrick. He used to be part of NIN, but left to form Filter.
As much as I love downward spiral he obviously knew about the Manson murders.
Thank you.
People still take "Big Man With a Gun" at face value. I was 14 when I got this album and on my first listen I knew it wasn't meant to be taken as a first person type of song. Virtue signalers gonna signal though right?
Did anyone else not know this was recorded where the Manson crimes took place ? Woaaaaahhhh changes a lot for me a bit anyways
WELL DONE.
Wow didn't know they lived in the Manson murder house that's really creepy but sick at the same time
plz do A Love Supreme or Giant Steps
AVALANCHES “SINCE I LEFT YOU” FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
Also beck “odelay”, talking heads “remain in light”, and the flaming lips “the soft bulletin”.
Make it happen and we’ll keep using your reviews for memes, giving you more readers.
Please do misfits static age
Do the Doors please!!!