Step-by-Step Recovery from Breathlessness | Long Covid Dysautonomia | Dr Boon Lim

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  • Are you still suffering from shortness of breath , after recovering from COVID? Or feel like your breathing is shallow? Do you know it could be related to your blood pressure? In fact, you could be experiencing dysautonomia. In this second episode, Cardiologist and Electrophysiologist Dr Boon Lim explains practical simple steps you can take at home for to improve recovery from long COVID dysautonomia.
    This is one video not to be missed if you've been struggling with various symptoms after COVID.
    To watch Dr Boon explain in clear terms what dysautonomia is and how long COVID brings about his condition, be sure to watch episode 1 of this healthchat: • Breathlessness in Long...
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    00:00 Introduction
    01:45 Salting and why it helps
    04:26 Hydration: the importance of drinking plenty of water
    06:01 Blood pressure monitoring
    10:41 Shortness of breath: why it happens and recovery
    13:33 Cold water helps
    15:01 Breathwork
    19:07 The importance of shifting your mindset
    24:38 Cold showers and cold water
    29:19 The Wim Hof method
    32:55 How breathwork is vital
    36:41 How excersing helps recovery
    43:19 Restoring gut microbiome health
    46:42 Being kind to oneself and kickstarting the recovery process
    48:34 Keeping Your Heart Healthy by Dr Boon Lim (book)
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  • @jesica4423
    @jesica4423 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I watched this video yesterday and this morning started salting and has changed my life! I have been miserable literally with severe brain fatigue that was impairing. Been taking supplements for past year and nothing help but salting. I’m incredible grateful 😊you have no idea how my life has changed.

  • @mariofonseca9267
    @mariofonseca9267 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Dr. Boon was the only individual able to explain why we get tachycardia in the context of long COVID and dysautonomia. Doctors in general have no clue what’s going on with respect to long COVID. Thank you so much.

    • @kellybeasley8910
      @kellybeasley8910 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree with you. They diagnose so many other things, but not in connection to LC.

  • @clauthequeen
    @clauthequeen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The only doctor who knows what Long Covid is about….and cares to share what must be done. Thank you so much.

  • @duneideann9241
    @duneideann9241 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    One of the best long Covid videos so far, thank you 👍
    3 1/2 years and worse than ever

  • @poey50
    @poey50 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I dug out my blood pressure monitor and was amazed to find I was borderline low. 94/55. One hour after a tsp of salt in a litre of water I was 108/64. I'm a convert to salting / gratitude breathing / cold showers! Thank you.

  • @theancientsancients1769
    @theancientsancients1769 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Many people that had covid were diagnosed with SIBO ( Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth ) which can cause , fatigue, brain fog and aching. I was diagnosed with that too after my doctor suggested a breath test for that and it was positive! Once the bacteria is reduced many long covid symptoms get better. Usually antibiotics are used to reduce the bad bacteria. But its important after treatment to take probiotics as antibiotics destroy good and bad bacteria.
    The alternative is natural antibiotics supplements , like oregano, berberine, cloves, garlic supplements in combo .
    Vitamin B1 deficiency can help many too and be the root cause of many gut symptoms or neurological symptoms linked to long COVID.

  • @user-ry1tm3df2k
    @user-ry1tm3df2k 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What a compassionate, humble and knowledgeable doctor. Thank you so much for sharing this wisdom!

  • @vicbreschini109
    @vicbreschini109 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I am blown away by this video. For months my husband and I have had long covid. We took the meds we were told when we had covid which were told this would prevent long covid. Been to the hospital, had work ups, paid lots of money but no one can tell us what is happening. We have to find our disease on the internet and cure ourselves. Thank you so much.

    • @Butterflywishes-rf9dt
      @Butterflywishes-rf9dt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you can tell me was the medications you took Paxlovid and Mulnupiravir? I need to get well .....please help?

  • @kylen4701
    @kylen4701 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wim Hoff breathing literally saved my life after I had covid.

  • @francescachristy8761
    @francescachristy8761 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I'm generally very impressed with advice offered by Dr Boon, however, I found that in this video there wasn't enough caution expressed about dangers of exercise for those with LC who meet the diagnosis for ME/CFS. In this case, the cardinal defining symptom is PESE, (post exertion symptom exacerbation) that can occur up to 48 hours after even minimal exertion in some patients. There are enough patients with post-viral ME who have been made long term bed bound by trying to follow an exercise program. In such patients pacing and rest is extremely important with a much more cautious approach to increasing activity, dropping back down if symptoms increase. Please see pulmonary exercise testing by the Workwell foundation in the US for more information. The Bateman Horne Centre is also a good resource

    • @TalkHealthAsia
      @TalkHealthAsia  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hi! We've reached out to Dr Boon and here's his response:
      Resting, recovering, and pacing are key to recovery. Agree don't push hard, particularly when it causes one to take 2 steps back for every one forward.

    • @sandiehutchinson9575
      @sandiehutchinson9575 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Dr boon please please please work out who has ME....dont damage patients like I was in 1993 damage for 32 years continuing ! I trust nobody because they don't understand ..my autonomic nervous system is all sympathetic parasympathetic nervous does not work at all it's damaged full stop ! I get the breathing .. I been in fight or flight for 32 years 😊 😅

    • @francescachristy8761
      @francescachristy8761 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TalkHealthAsia thank you for clarifying this with Dr Boon. I much appreciate his reply

    • @irinailyasova5366
      @irinailyasova5366 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Fermented food and others..are high histamine food, Some ppl developed asthma, allergies , MCAS after long haul..
      So my suggestion..ppl be careful with fermented and other types of high histamine food.

  • @bevfitzsimmonds3382
    @bevfitzsimmonds3382 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thankyou so much! ❤

  • @thekittengamer7812
    @thekittengamer7812 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much!

  • @kellybeasley8910
    @kellybeasley8910 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful video. Thank you! I will try the salting recommendation! Thank you!

  • @emilyfloyd6939
    @emilyfloyd6939 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you so much for all the information! I really appreciate it.

  • @davidclode3601
    @davidclode3601 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you, very interesting.

  • @rocketraisin
    @rocketraisin ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ❤ I’m really impressed!!! So well structured, so well explained, so informative, and super mindful. Thanks God my Doctors in Germany 🙈did know nothing about Long Covid, so I had to find out for myself how I can support myself and how to cope with the annoying breathlessness as an asthmatic after the 2nd Infection that was 3 months ago from now on. SO I found you Dr. Boon, you give me hope and a plan that all will work out. You both are amazing and everyone that suffers of Long Covid should know this video! Thanks from the bottom of my heart ❤️

  • @kristen1441
    @kristen1441 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have post-Covid vaccine sequel and I’ve done a lot of these things and it helps. Low dose naltrexone and IVIg as well. I agree with the standing yoga not being helpful and pacing, breathing and salt being helpful. Interestingly I got altitude sickness recently and when I got back to sea level, I got so much better! I’m in the Nath study for neurological jab injury at NIH. Good luck everyone!

  • @1wesell
    @1wesell 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you so much for sharing this information, I am finally recovering

  • @ebbabuddy
    @ebbabuddy ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have dysautonomia from LC but I get exhausted from the cold shower. I don’t find relief from the shock as I have trouble warming up after the cold shower. The same with walking in cold weather. I try to ignore and listen to music or breathe but I find my stress and is very high. Opposite with sauna or being out on a 90 degree day. I find joy. Perhaps it’s my hypothyroidism that makes me miserable during and after cold showers and walks.
    Pacing and rest has helped. Salt, hydration and my Lululemon leggings helped. Floor stretches, breath work and core exercises kept my body free of tension and pain. I was still unable to stand longer than 10 minutes without feeling lightheaded and weak and my chiro did some bloodwork. Results showed high TSH, low magnesium, low vitamin B (although I was taking it) and low CoQ10. Started taking magnesium, CoQ10 and a methylated vitamin B as I have the MTHFR gene (can’t convert folate) and within a month I felt much better and was able to stand longer, walk, go to yoga classes and use an infrared sauna. I was so excited that I think I forgot about pacing and did too many of these things, despite having stressful work and triggering emotional events. I’m back to doing a bit less.

    • @Lina-jy8sl
      @Lina-jy8sl ปีที่แล้ว

      hey! i was wondering which Lululemon leggings help you?

    • @ebbabuddy
      @ebbabuddy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Lina-jy8sl I wear the wunder unders as they have more compression than something like the align leggings.

  • @lindaperry9950
    @lindaperry9950 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wow! I have been dealing with pacs for a little over a year and experimenting with what I eat and different supplements. Starting the day with potassium and an essential minerals capsule seems to help but still occasional periods of breathlessness with very little exercise and pacs with more intense. I have recently realized that eating salty nuts helps so decided to try baking soda in water. I will definitely be trying more of your recommendations.
    I don't know if I had covid but I had 2 weeks of very mild symptoms right before it all started. I had 2 shots of Moderna when it came out and felt pretty bad for 24 to 36 hours. Also had a flare-up of fibrocystic breast after the 2nd shot. I will not be getting any more shots!
    I am 73, fairly active (the pacs definitely get i my way!) and am in the US.
    Thank you so much for doing this video. I found it around 2 am. Wide awake! 😳 I'm going to pass it on. ❤👍🏻

    • @donnazukadley7300
      @donnazukadley7300 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      (MANDATED) vacc1ne injured nurse from 2nd M0derna

  • @vickyyeoman1646
    @vickyyeoman1646 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, I watched this video last night and today went in the sea for two short swims. The cold shock has definitely done something for the feeling of blood pooling down into my feet and calves I've been having since Covid. Going to keep this up. Thank you!

  • @CarmelEastwood
    @CarmelEastwood 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Long covid has caused my blood pressure to be unstable. My readings can be low, high, or normal. The same problems I'm experiencing with my heart rate. Both were normal prior to covid.

  • @LibbyRal
    @LibbyRal ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There's so much advice for POTS but none for hypeadrenergic patients. Despite years of trying combinations and finally settling on 4 medications that helped my high BP - a beta blocker that took forever to find one I could tolerate, irbesartin and both a potassium sparing and potasium wasting diuretics, my P is completely out of control since two bouts of covid.

  • @Sunshine-mf1mn
    @Sunshine-mf1mn ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Maybe u can explain how to recover after COVID vaccine injury?

    • @dirtyharry2534
      @dirtyharry2534 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The FLCCC Alliance has a Post-Vaccine Treatment Protocol on their website, which you might find helpful.

    • @sandrabentley8111
      @sandrabentley8111 ปีที่แล้ว

      No such thing.

    • @jasonm.3933
      @jasonm.3933 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sandrabentley8111that’s a lie. Less than a week after my second shot is when my symptoms started-racing heart and shortness of breath. It’s been almost 4 years and although my symptoms aren’t as bad, they’re still very much present on a daily basis and it has adversely affected my quality of life and outlook on the future.

    • @SGRmoss
      @SGRmoss หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@sandrabentley8111 completely untrue.

  • @jamiedorn4105
    @jamiedorn4105 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for doing this interview! Not getting much help from doctors, but this helps bring insight.
    Any key supplements that could help as well?

  • @yl1487
    @yl1487 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Andy Galpin's discussions of hydration sound a bit similar to here - refreshing to finally hear hydration talked about in terms of more than just dihydrogen monoxide, an intriguing substance though it might be.

  • @rosaruiz443
    @rosaruiz443 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think I have to try this one, big thanks Dr. Boon.... For how long will I take salting 🤔

  • @maryr7593
    @maryr7593 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There are salt tablets available...in 100mg. If you have a pill cutter, you can cut the pill in quarters and drop in a liter bottle of beverage...it will slowly dissolve. You could just add the tsp to the liter beverage too. Sometimes the tablets can be expensive.

  • @Gina-dn6xm
    @Gina-dn6xm 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How about high inflammation and cytoklines? I have the same high inflammation numbers even though I have never had covid. I was diagnosed with late stage lyme and now ME/CFS. Doctors ignore high inflammation when in fact I wonder if it may be one of the factors contributing to staying sick.

  • @5000NATE
    @5000NATE ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Personally I didn't have to do the salt intake I still drink my coffee and everything like that I just focused on my breath and improving my meditation practice and that's what happened I finally got better my quality of life has changed in the way where I'm more happier of just being now I practice gratitude like doctor was saying and I drink water once in awhile but I've gotten myself to dancing again but I do take breaks and I make sure that I don't overdo it

    • @ghassenbohli4056
      @ghassenbohli4056 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You had severe dysautonomia ?

  • @MrJhockley
    @MrJhockley ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My symptoms get worse in the cold. I generally feel better in the heat. I also feel worse laying rather than standing. I do have a very low salt diet. I’ll still give extra salt a go. I find I need to hyperventilate to get my self going rather than relaxing.

    • @hc5327
      @hc5327 ปีที่แล้ว

      Electrolytes balanced. No sugar. Ben Lynch Seeking Health website has no sugared just powdered, electrolytes. They saved me while researching. Still recuperating. Many other drs online helping to find answers. NAC helps lungs also. D3K2, always together. Vitamin C, liposomal if possible. Vit E. All four kinds. Quercitin. B’s not the synthetic kind. Especially B12, B1, niacin. Dr Eric Berg. Dr Osborne on TH-cam. Research as many as you can. Get the big picture of the body’s functions. Ben Lynch. Teaches genetics also, since this affects some of us differently. God luck.

  • @Bepike
    @Bepike 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm a bit confused after listening to this video. It sounds like Dr. Lim is mostly referring to those who suffer from POTS after C infection. My symptoms are lightheadedness (or pressure in my head) that fluctuates during the course of the day. I generally feel much better after eating dinner - almost to the point of feeling "normal", but I'm more sensitive in the 1st part of the day. I definitely know when I've overdone it as the next day I can tell I've relapsed. I've checked my bp and don't have POTS. I've also read that a low salt diet is recommended for dizziness. I've generally been eating a normal amount of salt daily, mostly at dinner since that's my biggest meal. Anyway, I'm just curious if you would recommend 1-2 teaspoons of salt daily if one doesn't have POTS. And should the salt content of miso be included in this category? My systolic bp is generally between 106-120. Thank you for this interesting video.

  • @eloisebush4595
    @eloisebush4595 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Or Redmon salt from ancient seabed in Utah USA.😮😮

  • @gaylebardrick7725
    @gaylebardrick7725 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My daughter is 15 low bp, tachycardia and I think POTs, yet to be diagnosed.
    Can I up her salt intake and what would be best, himaylan pink salt, rock salt, table salt witb iodine.
    Many thanks for your talks

  • @wendykimmich9383
    @wendykimmich9383 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What about those with too high blood pressure & tachicardia after covid??

    • @kylen4701
      @kylen4701 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I had high bp and tachycardia after covid... I went on a BP medication and do wim hoff breathing and then a 10 min meditation daily. Usually I do it two times daily. It 100% helped. Good luck.

  • @emo333vampire
    @emo333vampire 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hello, what is the suggestion for shortness of breath from long covid?

  • @karmenashikian2479
    @karmenashikian2479 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which probiotics did you mention?

  • @SperamusHope
    @SperamusHope 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You need to treat inflammation. I had terrible fatigue, brain fog, memory cognitive issues after covid. I'm Still recuperating. New doctor treated me with I meg solumedrol IV steroid. Within hours of treatment the pressure I felt on top of my head lifted. Several days later I could think clearer my short term memory lapses improving. My fatigue also is much better. I nap once or twice a week once a day. Not every day twice or three times. Why do doctors ignore treating brain inflammation. It is documented on MRI scans. They know it's there but don't treat it. I thank God I finally found a doctor who treated it. Look for doctors who will give corticosteroids to treat long term covid inflammation. This is what causes long covid!

  • @bananaq8i
    @bananaq8i 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for the educational video. I'm not buying that deconditioning theory. I have been in the best shape of my life when covid hit me, and within about a week in, I developed severe dysautonomia.

  • @daniella4889
    @daniella4889 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I get tachycardia when I try to do breath work and deep breathing

  • @sardotabil6347
    @sardotabil6347 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I strongly believed,daily exercise, eat variety of fruits and vegetables,Good hydration is important for overall good health.Making sure you get fresh air, sunshine(vitamin D) and enough sleep are the best method to maintain strong immune system especially to the elderly.This is an immune booster fits all.

  • @Butterflywishes-rf9dt
    @Butterflywishes-rf9dt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Will Paxlovid or Mulnupiravir help..with long covid haul?

  • @CBEACH
    @CBEACH 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ArtemiC Rescue and Support combo treatment for Longcovid - it works😅

  • @edunsavage
    @edunsavage 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what do those of us who deal with high blood pressure?

  • @decafmocha211
    @decafmocha211 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's a very good treatment but make sure your blood pressure is ok before going on this treatment and check it regularly because salt and cold water raises your blood pressure.

  • @eloisebush4595
    @eloisebush4595 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Whole salt should not raise BP.very important.

  • @aimeelee296
    @aimeelee296 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What to do instead of drinking salt if you have high BP? There is likely two teaspoonful of salt already in ordinary every day cooking. Is the doctor’s two teaspoon of salt in addition to what we normally add to cooking? If yes can we add more salt when we make soup and drink the soup instead of salt in a glass of plain water?

    • @TalkHealthAsia
      @TalkHealthAsia  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi! We've reached out to Dr Boon and here's his response:
      If you are known to have a high BP, please do not have excessive salt. You may need to discuss this with your doctor further. Only take salt IF you have normal or low normal BP and your symptoms are consistent with long covid. 2 teaspoonfuls is what is recommended in total and if this is already consumed in day to day cooking, then you may not need to add more. However, if you exercise/sweat a lot and have low BP despite a salty meal, then you can add a little more salt, depending on what your salt "craving" level is. Remember, if high BP, be more cautious about salt.

  • @eloisebush4595
    @eloisebush4595 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would definitely use only whole seal salt or Himalayan whole salt.table salt is pure sodium .you need all the minerals in balance.😮😮

  • @florasantos8833
    @florasantos8833 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about if you have long covid and you have high blood pressure, palpitations, acid reflux and diarrhea, all at the same time. Can you still use salt, compression socks and cold shower?

  • @daisies4444
    @daisies4444 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What about if you have high blood pressure yet are breathless ? e.g. High BP 176/91. although I do have aortic stenosis. I do drink gallons of water. Thank you!

    • @TalkHealthAsia
      @TalkHealthAsia  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi! We've reached out to Dr Boon and here's his response:
      This is different from long covid - please consult your cardiologist, and you may have a different reason for breathlessness - your BP appears high if this is a consistent reading.

    • @daisies4444
      @daisies4444 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TalkHealthAsia Thank you for replying.

    • @daisies4444
      @daisies4444 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TalkHealthAsia Thank you so much.

  • @moviemaker159
    @moviemaker159 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My respiratory system has been affected by long covid: dryness in the nose and mouth. Do you have any advice for that please.

    • @pamforrester844
      @pamforrester844 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi, I have no medical training but I am two years in with this and the only thing keeping me going are OTC generic Claritin and my new best friend saline nose spray, non medicated so you can use as needed. I just buy store brand, it does help

    • @moviemaker159
      @moviemaker159 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pamforrester844 thanks, I will check it out online.

    • @TalkHealthAsia
      @TalkHealthAsia  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi! We've reached out to Dr Boon and here's his response:
      Regular hydration. It would be worth checking if you breathe through your mouth - if you do, try to switch to nasal breathing, which is less dehydrating.

    • @moviemaker159
      @moviemaker159 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TalkHealthAsia thank you.

  • @pc24681
    @pc24681 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have been very blessed to never get Covid or any diseases out there because I don’t be exposed by lots of different people on a daily basis and I stay away from crowded places 🙏🏽

    • @felipejotz7054
      @felipejotz7054 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What does this comment add to the video? Who cares? People here just want to heal and share possible treatments and experience

    • @ms-jl6dl
      @ms-jl6dl 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You have been exposed but 70% of people get no symptoms (most people don't know that).
      The only way to know for sure is to do the blood test,T-cell immunity test or specific antibody test (not standard covid test).

    • @pc24681
      @pc24681 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ms-jl6dl I have been vaccinated and boosted and I have antibodies.
      People who had Covid has antibodies as well🙏🏽

  • @LongRonnybyebye
    @LongRonnybyebye 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ArtemiC Rescue and Support helped make my Long dissapear after 9 days.

    • @cashrobertson9908
      @cashrobertson9908 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What were your symptoms? How long did you have them?

    • @LongRonnybyebye
      @LongRonnybyebye 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cashrobertson9908
      Hello Cash,
      my symptoms were only extreme fatigue including falling asleep on trains and at work uncontrollably. I had this problem for several months.

  • @user-hn3ii1yb4i
    @user-hn3ii1yb4i 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I need serious help from guys?

  • @user-hn3ii1yb4i
    @user-hn3ii1yb4i 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have long covid19, I can't sleep at all

  • @revelation1215
    @revelation1215 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    With regard to hydration, this is a problem for many with long COVID as there is electrolyte sensitivity and imbalance so suggesting that everyone needs to drink more is the wrong advice. You need to be checking your urine color. If it is clear then you are either hydrated or over hydrated!

  • @sandiehutchinson9575
    @sandiehutchinson9575 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dr sue pemberton said i was the worst breather she had seen in over 30 years 1000 k patients ....

  • @djcardwell
    @djcardwell หลายเดือนก่อน

    chatty chat chat

  • @djcardwell
    @djcardwell หลายเดือนก่อน

    long covid is just POTS

    • @SGRmoss
      @SGRmoss หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not at all.

    • @djcardwell
      @djcardwell หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SGRmoss It's been proven.