Jestem również zauroczona jego interpretacją. Dla mnie najlepszy pianista na tym konkursie. Wyjątkowa wrażliwość, niespotykana wyobraźnia muzyczna, można ją dotknąć niemalże.
What is the point of writing timestamps when someone plays wrong note? This piece is 30 pages long and each of them is covered with technically difficult places (andante spianato is no exception). Playing it with 2 or 3 little mistakes that are barely noticeable is still an achievement. Especially when someone's musicality is on this level. One of the best performances of this piece I've ever heard. His sound is extremely rich and colourful. I played it myself and for me it's impossible to imagine what should pianist do to achieve such a smooth and delicate crescendo still being played pianissimo like we can hear in a part from 9:28. Let's talk about this instead of pointing one wrong note placed among 10000 correct ones.
I mean, I could point out the times he played the right notes, but that wouldn't be interesting. And it's not like pointing out wrong notes degrade the performance or whatever.
Whenever I see a comment like that I immediately assume that the person has twisted musical priorities. I honestly wouldn't even be interested in such a person's musical opinion in the first place, so why even put any weight into their comment
As Ludwig van Beethoven said once, “To play a wrong note is insignificant; to play without passion is inexcusable" Missing a few notes here and there don't degrade someone's performance, it's the musicality and the passion that matters.
Absolutely! This was the point in the video where I started realizing that I'm watching an absolutely brilliant pianist! Beautiful emotion and absolutely breathtaking technic! No doubt of the best pianist of this decade!
maßstabsetzende innerlichkeit (andante)/unuebertroffene eleganz und grazie (polonaise) - endlich einmal eine nicht vordergründig reißerische interpretation dieser bezaubernden und eben doch auch leicht melancholischen kompositionen! ein tiefes glück!!!!!bravooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!°!!°!!
Easy. Because he is just a show man. Nothing essential behind his showed up "emotions". Just technique. If any camera focusses him, he's grieving...A simple game. Do you think that musicians like Martha Argerich didn't notice that?
2010 International Chopin Piano Competition Scandal Throughout the competition, Wunder was widely believed to be the best competitor as the audience favorite and leader in points. However, in the last stage of the competition, the judges scrapped the points system being used and evaluated the winner solely based on the final round. Although Wunder won the prize for Best Concerto (the final stage), he was not given the gold medal (awarded to Yulianna Avdeeva.) This created outrage among the Warsaw public, proclaiming the events a scandal similar to the Ivo Pogorelich case of the 1980 competition. Okay...
i think he is the only person arugablely consider as the winner in the competition, as compared to other years, the debate will always exist because he is also the only person who win 2 awards during the competition and end up not being viewed as the winner. Ingolf won the Best Performance of the Polonaise, and Best Performance of a Concerto, theoretically usually the winner of this competition goes to the person who won these 2 special prize. Therefore, the judges should review their grading to the public, so people can understand why someone is the winner.
I agree that he is better than the winner, but I think it should have been Trifonov that he was facing for the winner's circle. I'm not sure who I like better. This guy seems to have slightly better clarity and rhythmic buoyancy at times, and he's clearly got the crowd wrapped around his very dexterous little finger! But I just don't think you can beat Trifonov for the overall sweep of a piece, and the liquid touch and musicality. I've heard a lot more Trifinov though, and I'm a big fan. I'll have to check out this Wunder-kind!
OK, I agree that his concerto was more sparkling than Trifonov's. Good call. I've also done some more listening to Yulianna, and she's actually more deserving than some people out there seem to think. I absolutely love her F minor Fantasy. Your thoughts? At this level the top 3 are always concert worthy. To your point, if Wunder was the points leader, the crowd favorite and the concerto winner then what happened? I don't see how the judges could get away with that.
Absolutely hipnotizing performance, alive, beautiful, contrasting !nd full of feeling, passion and amazing flow. Love it so much. It is the unexpected discovery. Thank you very much.
It is a GENIUS music played by a GENIUS pianist. That's it !!!!!!!!! But the judges of 2010 Chopin competition were not at his level, unfortunately !!!!!!!
yes, taking risks must stay part of it, otherwise the whole thing becomes too mechanic and loses spontaneity. It’s better to have a few mistakes but not lose THAT.
Can anyone tell me, how many notes that guy had to memorise playing it? As a rather writing guy, am I wrong to compare it to reciting some poem/written words? I used to compose and I think it's not a bad comparison...
It is difficult to tell you how many, but imagine you use your pinky finger to sing the melody line while other nine do their own job with each movement. I hope this will help.
As a pianist, it actually isn't as bad as most people seem to think. As you practice repeatedly (trust me, you have to practice repeatedly), most of the music becomes locked in your fingers and your memory without significant effort. At least, this is from my personal experience, I've never asked another pianist before. Edit: still, I will say that the level of detail and (musical) dedication is impressive. This isn't an easy piece, not just when it comes to technicality, but especially musically and artistically capturing the spirit and feeling.
@@ericssonlin7114 I appreciate your comment, but I don't see the need for you to reply to every single comment thta points out something mildly interesting about the performance, whether it be good or bad. You are right, no one cares about a couple of wrong notes. If people cared a lot, there would be many more replies and a healthy discussion. I simply pointed out something I found amusing.. Save yourself the trouble of replying, and thank you for reminding me of this wonderful performance.
Dear Ingolf, I watched entire Chopin piano competition and for me you were the best. Thank you for such beautiful music.
Jestem również zauroczona jego interpretacją. Dla mnie najlepszy pianista na tym konkursie. Wyjątkowa wrażliwość, niespotykana wyobraźnia muzyczna, można ją dotknąć niemalże.
Cóż, parytet...
évidemment qu'il était le meilleur, en terme d'expressivité, de sens du phrasé et de bal canto il n'y a pas mieux que lui!!!!
What is the point of writing timestamps when someone plays wrong note? This piece is 30 pages long and each of them is covered with technically difficult places (andante spianato is no exception). Playing it with 2 or 3 little mistakes that are barely noticeable is still an achievement. Especially when someone's musicality is on this level. One of the best performances of this piece I've ever heard. His sound is extremely rich and colourful. I played it myself and for me it's impossible to imagine what should pianist do to achieve such a smooth and delicate crescendo still being played pianissimo like we can hear in a part from 9:28. Let's talk about this instead of pointing one wrong note placed among 10000 correct ones.
I mean, I could point out the times he played the right notes, but that wouldn't be interesting. And it's not like pointing out wrong notes degrade the performance or whatever.
人只会对近乎完美的表现吹毛求疵
Whenever I see a comment like that I immediately assume that the person has twisted musical priorities. I honestly wouldn't even be interested in such a person's musical opinion in the first place, so why even put any weight into their comment
As Ludwig van Beethoven said once, “To play a wrong note is insignificant; to play without passion is inexcusable"
Missing a few notes here and there don't degrade someone's performance, it's the musicality and the passion that matters.
I've listened to this performance multiple times and I've never consciously noticed a technical mistake.
Pure romance. It`s the real soul of Chopin. Just amazing!!!! I have not heard this music played better!!!
Chopin, o melhor de todos os tempos! Fan incondicional!
Absolutely stunning playing! Bravissimo!
Pure Wunder! I have not heard this music played better! Wunder should *easily* have received first prize for this competition!
A real great, beautiful, and amazing interpretation...!!!
The small run at 0:44 is breathtaking. Even the smallest of tasks he does so so well
Absolutely! This was the point in the video where I started realizing that I'm watching an absolutely brilliant pianist! Beautiful emotion and absolutely breathtaking technic! No doubt of the best pianist of this decade!
Wonderful Heart & Soul!!! Fantastic Performance!!! 🙏🙏🙏🌟🌟🌟👏👏👏
Grand Polonaise Briliante Starts At 05:04-14:00
Je n'ai pas les mots pour décrire à quel point c'est beau...
This guy is Wunderful.
lmao
maßstabsetzende innerlichkeit (andante)/unuebertroffene eleganz und grazie (polonaise) - endlich einmal eine nicht vordergründig reißerische interpretation dieser bezaubernden und eben doch auch leicht melancholischen kompositionen! ein tiefes glück!!!!!bravooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!°!!°!!
Ingo! Du bist einfach der Beste ! So eine Ehre dich zu kennen !
Absolutely marvelous! What a touch!
Thank you Ingolf
interprétation magistrale
Semplicemente meraviglioso!
Splendid performance! Lovely! Congratulations!
I love this version
Oh! how Beautiful key board articulation and aglgyk it is. especially breathing between in each other passages spining.
still rembember when i heard a fellow pianist play this live
Brilliant
amazing dexterity.
muy bueno me gusta mucho la interpretación (Magnifica)
What a brilliant performance!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻Bravissimo!❤️❤️❤️
He is truly the winner.
Frédéric Chopin sir how do you practice this piece
@ Mohamad Harier Frédéric Chopin has no need to practice his own piece 😄
Frik'n' amazing!
brilliant, excellent.
I think he is best.
Seriously... how in the hell did this guy not win?
trifonov did not win a well lol
Easy. Because he is just a show man. Nothing essential behind his showed up "emotions". Just technique. If any camera focusses him, he's grieving...A simple game. Do you think that musicians like Martha Argerich didn't notice that?
@@prokastinatore Ingolf was too engulfed by emotion?
It's a tough call.
@@prokastinatore This is unbelievable! (you don't concur?)
5:04 Grande Polonaise Brillante
2010 International Chopin Piano Competition Scandal
Throughout the competition, Wunder was widely believed to be the best competitor as the audience favorite and leader in points. However, in the last stage of the competition, the judges scrapped the points system being used and evaluated the winner solely based on the final round. Although Wunder won the prize for Best Concerto (the final stage), he
was not given the gold medal (awarded to Yulianna Avdeeva.) This created outrage among the Warsaw public, proclaiming the events a scandal similar to the Ivo Pogorelich case of the 1980 competition.
Okay...
Pourquoi donc pisser autant de vinaigre?
Jodges opinions....
wow did they really just scrap the system during the competition, thats unprofessional, they couldve waited for the next comp
@@bonzo1975 Yep.
@Lenny Online better than Zimerman?
i think he is the only person arugablely consider as the winner in the competition, as compared to other years, the debate will always exist because he is also the only person who win 2 awards during the competition and end up not being viewed as the winner. Ingolf won the Best Performance of the Polonaise, and Best Performance of a Concerto, theoretically
usually the winner of this competition goes to the person who won these 2 special prize. Therefore, the judges should review their grading to the public, so people can understand why someone is the winner.
bravo beautiful sad fun smiling beautiful
i love your sound
Incredible
I agree that he is better than the winner, but I think it should have been Trifonov that he was facing for the winner's circle. I'm not sure who I like better. This guy seems to have slightly better clarity and rhythmic buoyancy at times, and he's clearly got the crowd wrapped around his very dexterous little finger! But I just don't think you can beat Trifonov for the overall sweep of a piece, and the liquid touch and musicality. I've heard a lot more Trifinov though, and I'm a big fan. I'll have to check out this Wunder-kind!
but in my opinion wunderss piano concerto is absolutely unmatched and just shouldve made him win
bl00dwork I'll check it out
OK, I agree that his concerto was more sparkling than Trifonov's. Good call. I've also done some more listening to Yulianna, and she's actually more deserving than some people out there seem to think. I absolutely love her F minor Fantasy. Your thoughts? At this level the top 3 are always concert worthy. To your point, if Wunder was the points leader, the crowd favorite and the concerto winner then what happened? I don't see how the judges could get away with that.
Absolutely hipnotizing performance, alive, beautiful, contrasting !nd full of feeling, passion and amazing flow. Love it so much. It is the unexpected discovery. Thank you very much.
@@kerryjohnson9987 All what you said!
♡
Great ingolf!🎉
It is a GENIUS music played by a GENIUS pianist. That's it !!!!!!!!! But the judges of 2010 Chopin competition were not at his level, unfortunately !!!!!!!
I love you ❤️
全体のテンポが落ち着く、、、、
7:41 Ingolf is a badass, but this was totally avoidable if there was less focus on physical flourishes
@Mookie Spindlehurst All I know is, this is Wunder-bar!
@Mookie Spindlehurst No, I haven't but hope to after I recover from Igolf! Thanks for these suggestions :)
He took his risks. That's it, lad
yes, taking risks must stay part of it, otherwise the whole thing becomes too mechanic and loses spontaneity. It’s better to have a few mistakes but not lose THAT.
Like this interpretation . He did'nt play the polonaise rushly
Mn, esse cara parece o ator que interpretou Mozart no filme Amadeus (1984)
What would he feel like he could play on a Steinway & Sons today
0:00 Penny Wise
0:59?
Strepitoso!
14:00
Increible como tocas una nota diferente a la que puso chopin cambia todo.. minuto 7:42
Can anyone tell me, how many notes that guy had to memorise playing it?
As a rather writing guy, am I wrong to compare it to reciting some poem/written words?
I used to compose and I think it's not a bad comparison...
It is difficult to tell you how many, but imagine you use your pinky finger to sing the melody line while other nine do their own job with each movement.
I hope this will help.
As a pianist, it actually isn't as bad as most people seem to think. As you practice repeatedly (trust me, you have to practice repeatedly), most of the music becomes locked in your fingers and your memory without significant effort.
At least, this is from my personal experience, I've never asked another pianist before.
Edit: still, I will say that the level of detail and (musical) dedication is impressive. This isn't an easy piece, not just when it comes to technicality, but especially musically and artistically capturing the spirit and feeling.
Part 2 07:23
04:39 That cough...
It’s much too much loud banging for my taste. (I have read that Trifonov placed third because he played so many wrong notes.)
Enfiar propagandas goela abaixo no meio da música é horrivel youtube!
so this is where a ginger finds his soul..
Little bit fast
7:41 mistake and 9:30
oh come on. how pathetic of you to mention these minor, minor mistakes. I'd love to hear you perform this piece better.
guess what, there is even more! Keep looking LOL
7:42 ?
Ouch
i personally think, it didn't sound THAT bad :D
@@ericssonlin7114 I appreciate your comment, but I don't see the need for you to reply to every single comment thta points out something mildly interesting about the performance, whether it be good or bad. You are right, no one cares about a couple of wrong notes. If people cared a lot, there would be many more replies and a healthy discussion. I simply pointed out something I found amusing.. Save yourself the trouble of replying, and thank you for reminding me of this wonderful performance.
Jjjaja detalles 😂