Thanks for the feature updates on this beauty SL2: highly appreciated. How do you rate the SL2’s image quality in low light/high ISO conditions? How is the AF speed in normal and low light conditions? How would you rate the dynamic range of this new SL2? Could you give comparison information on this SL2 vs the a7 RIV? Have you been able to test the SL lenses vs M lenses on this new SL2?
excellent review.. thanks.. I tested this vs the GFX S and Hassey. I opted to save a few dimes by buying the SL, which has come down nicely in price. Love the Leica build and have been wanted one for a long time.
I was looking into a Hasselblad too even though the GFX has become ver affordble. However, the Hasselblad with its better viewfinder than the GFX accepts also Zeiss Milvus or Zeiss Otus lenses. So you are are not entirly bound on GFX glass.
SL2 is developed by Leica and made in Germany. L mount that SL, SL2 and CL using was co-developed with Panasonic and Sigma. It confirmed on Leica website and many other websites en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leica_SL2
Excellent presentation.The best I have seen. David, can you discuss the 20fps shooting for moving subjects? dpreview has come out openly saying that it is no good. Thanks.
Great video. Just got an A9II, and thinking of returning it, because of the poor touchscreen functionality, and I discovered a glitch in the OS, when programming the Cusotm Hold features, the DMF button cannot be used when accessing it from the programmed button. I called Sony and got the proverbial, “Oh, that’s how it was designed...yada” which is BS for - there is a glitch. So thinking about the switch. What is your thoughts on the focusing of the SL2, and the EVF? There were a few early reviews that were of a pre-production model that say the EVF is not good at all, and the focusing is slow, and not fast. Your thoughts? New sub.
I've found the EVF to be awesome on the SL2, especially as a long-time user of the SL (Typ 601), which already has a top-notch EVF. The SL2's finder is simply superior in every way. AF is a bit better than SL 601 and has worked well for my usage during my own testing. I'm mostly a landscape and travel shooter, not a wildlife or sports guy. So, take that for what's it worth. Generally, I set the camera in single field MF mode with the rear joystick set to AF-S On. I tap the rear joystick/button, lock focus and shoot. And for that way of working, it's spot-on. I need to play more with the Intelligent AF and tracking modes to get a better feel, but again, that's just not how I usually my cameras in my own photography. Stay tuned for more videos and for my full in-depth review on www.reddotforum.com.
You say that the Leica SL2 can accept Canon EF lenses with an adapter and be able to control aperture from the camera. What adapter is capable of doing that? I have a Canon24mm tilt shift and a Zeiss15mm Distagon that I'm reluctant to abandon, but neither has an aperture ring on the lens. It would be great to be able to use them on the SL2 and not have to shoot wide open. Please let me know.
The Novoflex SL-EOS adapter will offer full aperture control from the SL and SL2. leicastoremiami.com/products/novoflex-canon-eos-lens-adapter-to-leica-sl-body
Great question. I don't recall the exact setup for this video as it was a while ago. For the main camera, I used either the 24-90 SL or the 35 TL. For the close up, 90-280 SL. Hope this helps.
Great overview!! As an event photographer, I would love to have TTL compatibility with this Awesome camera. Do you think we can get this with a firmware update if Leica agrees to it? Will the camera be compatible with with uhs-3 cards when they become available?
Thanks. I used two Leica SL 601 cameras, one with a 24-90 (wide shot) and one with a 90-280 (close ups of the camera), sending over HDMI to external recorders (PIX-E7 and Atomos Shogun 7) in UHD 4K 24p, and capturing in ProRes 422 10-bit. No L-Log, just straight capture with minimal grading in Premiere.
"..the SL2 just improves pretty much on every single measure." Agreed. With the exception of removing direct GPS and adding the protruding strap lugs. I really hope those two do not become huge irritants.
I was waiting for the SL2. The SL was my only Leica option as it has GPS integrated. It is so disappointing that the left it out of the SL2! I do not understand why there are still cameras made without integrated GPS.
Very interesting and thank you For landscape photos and long pose (clouds, seaside,...) what do you suggest as a tripod for the SL2? Do M lenses give images as defined as the new SL lens?
For landscape photography, I use a Gitzo GT3542XLS without no center column and a Really Right Stuff BH-55 ball head. Rock solid combo. No. SL lenses consistently outperform M lenses. Some M lenses, like the 75 Noctilux and 90 Summilux definitely give the SL lenses a run for their money, but generally, SL lenses are sharper across the board. Even the legendary 50 APO-M is bested by the 50 APO-SL.
@@RedDotForum If you haven’t seen it yet, check out Leica Australia’s talk with the guy who designs their lens & you will understand why the SL lens are better. And they talk about vintage lens just a bit.
The differences/advantages of an external recorder: 1) For some resolution/frame rate combos, you're limited to 8-bit 4:2:0 vs.10-bit 4:2:2. This is less of a concern on the SL2 than the SL as the more common C4K24 and C4K30 can be recorded at 10-bit 4:2:2 internally. It only becomes an issue at the faster C4K60. 2) Run time. Internally, the camera is limited to 29min or 96GB file size, whichever is smaller. Externally, there is no limit. 3) The format itself. Internally, files are MOV or MP4, both of which use H.264 encoding. Editing H.264 4K60 is extremely taxing on just about any computer (even my 10-core workstation with 64GB of RAM and GTX1080Ti GPU), whereas external recorders will use more editing-friendly codecs like ProRes 422, which can even be edited smoothly on laptops. 4) Bigger screen and capture assistants. Having a 5 or 7 inch screen with waveform, vectorscope, RGB parade, false color, zebras, LUT preview, HDR viewing, and zooming while recording is very helpful. 5) Capacity and GB/dollar concerns. I use a 2TB SSD on my Atomos, which costs $230. For the same price, I'd only get a V90 128GB SDXC card - so 16x more capacity for the same price. I plan on doing a video on video production with the SL2 when I have more than one SL2. I can also edit directly off of the SSD which has a read/write speed of 550MBs. 6) Audio. You can record audio tracks directly into video using XLR balanced microphone inputs in addition to the camera HDMI. The mic preamps in recorders are superior to the camera's 3.5mm mic jack.
Wow! A full frame sensor H.264 10-bit 4:2:2. I can expect more beauty to finally come out in the finishing process from a "photo" sized camera now. I wonder what kind of ecosystem can be for the bluetooth, wifi, usb-c, hot shoe, etc. Hmm... Also looking into LockCircle's Metal Jacket 2 cage. www.lockcircle.com/store/?p=metaljacket/
I like this camera and justify the price difference with S1R. Some people do not. They should be excited about S1R then? But I can see some contempt towards SL2. Hidden admirers?
I have an M9 and have an itch to upgrade to something that shoots higher resolution video. Would the SL2 be a good one to go with as an M9 replacement? Also, what camera did you use to shoot this video?
EVF looked very sharp in my testing. It's a really incredible viewfinder experience. I haven't read the DPReview report yet, but will check it out and test with my SL2.
Meanwhile, I am very sure the SL3 will be much better than the SL2 ;-) Seriously, the SL2 does have some nice features which is lacking in the SL. But....compared to the Panasonic S1R, these features are actually quite similar :-)
2 comments : 1- For years, Leica claim that IBIS reduces dramatically the image quality. And all off a sudden it becomes a must have. Leica dares to say that. 2- 6000€ for a SL2 vs 7000 to 7600€ for a M10. What's wrong with Leica's rates ?? How will you justify the M price from now on ?
Marc With Leica, there is no such thing as price justification. You either buy or don’t. I don’t think their heads are way above water with their business model (a la Sony) but, they must sell enough to get by.
@@hioe04 I used to buy a Leica M6, R7, R8 and M240. Leica makes great cameras and optics. But the price of Q2 and SL2 bodies bring to light the extra billing of the M series.
When connecting an external monitor to HDMI, does the external monitor work in Stills shooting and not just in Video? The current SL only works in video mode. Which is a pain when you need to take a stills image in a cramped environment and have to position the camera up against a wall or at very high or very low viewpoints.
Yes, when connected via HDMI, a clean signal is displayed on an external monitor, either in PHOTO or VIDEO mode. You can also use the Leica FOTOS app to view and trigger remotely.
Tethering is via USB 3.1 Type C. Leica will be releasing new software: Lieca Image Shuttle SL2 3.7 and Lightroom Leica Tether Plugin 2.0. Both will be available for Windows and Mac.
Panasonic S1r for me . Why buy SL2 when too much of Panasonic tech on this SL2 and not made in Germany plus twice the price . I had the leica SL and sold it and buy Panasonic S1R so far the Panasonic out perform the SL imo .
The SL2 uses the same battery as the SL. GPS is now handled by connection to FOTOS app but we haven't been able to test this yet. So much information to cover in one video! We are considering creating more targeted videos, each tackling specific aspects of the SL2.
You can use Leica Image Shuttle and hotfolder capture in C1. I doubt that Phase One will add native tether support as Leica and Phase One are competitors.
It is a beautiful camera for sure but if you are a photographer , X1D mark II or GFX50s will be better option. I don't believe this camera can give better IQ than medium format... 6K is just too much for a FF camera. 4000-4500 USD would be nice.
@@bravolee7222 no they have both same Sony sensor and it can produce 14bit raw files and 8 bit Tiff. If you want true 16bit, you should go with GFX100 camera.Hasselblad says X1D is 16 bit but it is fake 16bit because sensor is not capable to produce 16 bit if you check Sony website.
Imhotep397 No, it’s not. The SL2 outperforms the S1R in numerous metrics from frame rate to video capabilities to sensor micro lenses and higher quality construction. Of course, Leica has taken advantage of some available components like sensors and IBIS architecture, just as Nikon, Fuji and Hasselblad use Sony sensors in their cameras. Doesn’t mean that an X1D is a rebadged GFX. The SL2 is designed and built by Leica in Germany, and uses components and technology from partners where it makes sense.
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Please do a video about lenses are recommended for SL2 aside from SL lenses .
The SL2 is truely unbelievable. I really ticks EVERY SINGLE BOX and will be a huge success for Leica!
Apart from the external microphone Jack
Best Leica SL2 review...thank you.
Except it's not a review.
Thanks for the feature updates on this beauty SL2: highly appreciated.
How do you rate the SL2’s image quality in low light/high ISO conditions?
How is the AF speed in normal and low light conditions?
How would you rate the dynamic range of this new SL2?
Could you give comparison information on this SL2 vs the a7 RIV?
Have you been able to test the SL lenses vs M lenses on this new SL2?
people here are paying attention to the camera, while im looking at that seamaster on his wrist
Your sir, have my respect. I belong to the same tribe as yourself. That sea master is the perfect compliment to a Leica SL2
Wouldn't the 007 Q2 be the perfect companion?
Finally I can charge without having to remove the battery! :) I assume it still uses same battery las SL?
Correct. Same BP-SCL4 as the SL 601 and Q2.
excellent review.. thanks.. I tested this vs the GFX S and Hassey. I opted to save a few dimes by buying the SL, which has come down nicely in price. Love the Leica build and have been wanted one for a long time.
I was looking into a Hasselblad too even though the GFX has become ver affordble. However, the Hasselblad with its better viewfinder than the GFX accepts also Zeiss Milvus or Zeiss Otus lenses. So you are are not entirly bound on GFX glass.
18:00 The S1R does shoot 4K60 with it's full video frame of x1.09
well this camera is basically the S1R, but costs atleast 1k more^^
love 120 refresh and improved corners for M wides
Excellent review!! Well done!
Dat Bond watch👍, Definitely getting the SL2!!
Good choice! Since making this video, the SL2 has been my go-to camera for almost every outing.
Also, can't go wrong with a Seamaster. :)
Why didn't they also use phase detect for auto focus?
Cause it is a rebrand camera, manufactured by Panasonic
SL2 is developed by Leica and made in Germany. L mount that SL, SL2 and CL using was co-developed with Panasonic and Sigma. It confirmed on Leica website and many other websites en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leica_SL2
@@JerryLi318 SL2 is not a rebrand of the S1R.
Great informative video with lots of details and patience.
Thank you!
Excellent presentation.The best I have seen. David, can you discuss the 20fps shooting for moving subjects? dpreview has come out openly saying that it is no good. Thanks.
Great video. Just got an A9II, and thinking of returning it, because of the poor touchscreen functionality, and I discovered a glitch in the OS, when programming the Cusotm Hold features, the DMF button cannot be used when accessing it from the programmed button. I called Sony and got the proverbial, “Oh, that’s how it was designed...yada” which is BS for - there is a glitch. So thinking about the switch. What is your thoughts on the focusing of the SL2, and the EVF? There were a few early reviews that were of a pre-production model that say the EVF is not good at all, and the focusing is slow, and not fast. Your thoughts? New sub.
I've found the EVF to be awesome on the SL2, especially as a long-time user of the SL (Typ 601), which already has a top-notch EVF. The SL2's finder is simply superior in every way. AF is a bit better than SL 601 and has worked well for my usage during my own testing. I'm mostly a landscape and travel shooter, not a wildlife or sports guy. So, take that for what's it worth. Generally, I set the camera in single field MF mode with the rear joystick set to AF-S On. I tap the rear joystick/button, lock focus and shoot. And for that way of working, it's spot-on. I need to play more with the Intelligent AF and tracking modes to get a better feel, but again, that's just not how I usually my cameras in my own photography. Stay tuned for more videos and for my full in-depth review on www.reddotforum.com.
Thorough run through. Thank you... and you've aged a bit since the Leica S2 review
Haha. Must be the beard.
@@RedDotForum Everybody ages ....
Is it just a Panasonic SR1 in a posh frock?
Not much information on AF performance...
However, SL2 is a great improvement from SL.
The Leica branding is too minimal, so hard to tell if the camera is a Leica
Subtlety is everything where Leica is concerned‼️😜😜😜
@@gzahnd And people try to tell me, irony is dead‼️😂😂😂
Is this a clue that the demand for that white LEICA came from chinese customers ?
That was one of my concerns as well.
You say that the Leica SL2 can accept Canon EF lenses with an adapter and be able to control aperture from the camera. What adapter is capable of doing that? I have a Canon24mm tilt shift and a Zeiss15mm Distagon that I'm reluctant to abandon, but neither has an aperture ring on the lens. It would be great to be able to use them on the SL2 and not have to shoot wide open. Please let me know.
The Novoflex SL-EOS adapter will offer full aperture control from the SL and SL2.
leicastoremiami.com/products/novoflex-canon-eos-lens-adapter-to-leica-sl-body
very good info.
problem: how many more months of waiting to order one lol
Any thoughts on the SL2 vs the Canon R5?
Hi you mentioned you were shooting this video on the SL 601 . What lens(s) are you using for video ? Thanks...
Great question. I don't recall the exact setup for this video as it was a while ago. For the main camera, I used either the 24-90 SL or the 35 TL. For the close up, 90-280 SL. Hope this helps.
Am I right in thinking there are many shared components between the Leica SL2 and the Lumix S1R? Most specs are identical.
If Apple can make the glass of Apple Watch work as gps, Leica could have done the same at next gen Leica SL3 ? Maybe at the top lcd display ?
Great overview!! As an event photographer, I would love to have TTL compatibility with this Awesome camera. Do you think we can get this with a firmware update if Leica agrees to it? Will the camera be compatible with with uhs-3 cards when they become available?
just use a canon, nikon, sony, panasonic etc... if you want ttl
Good review. Thank you. Love the colors of this video. What camera was used?
Thanks. I used two Leica SL 601 cameras, one with a 24-90 (wide shot) and one with a 90-280 (close ups of the camera), sending over HDMI to external recorders (PIX-E7 and Atomos Shogun 7) in UHD 4K 24p, and capturing in ProRes 422 10-bit. No L-Log, just straight capture with minimal grading in Premiere.
@@RedDotForum Thank you.
Wonderful, wonderful image quality in this video. Real distinctive look.
"..the SL2 just improves pretty much on every single measure." Agreed. With the exception of removing direct GPS and adding the protruding strap lugs. I really hope those two do not become huge irritants.
Yes, we would have liked the GPS to be retained from the SL 601, but don't think the strap lugs are cause for concern after using the camera.
I was waiting for the SL2. The SL was my only Leica option as it has GPS integrated. It is so disappointing that the left it out of the SL2! I do not understand why there are still cameras made without integrated GPS.
Very interesting and thank you
For landscape photos and long pose (clouds, seaside,...) what do you suggest as a tripod for the SL2?
Do M lenses give images as defined as the new SL lens?
For landscape photography, I use a Gitzo GT3542XLS without no center column and a Really Right Stuff BH-55 ball head. Rock solid combo.
No. SL lenses consistently outperform M lenses. Some M lenses, like the 75 Noctilux and 90 Summilux definitely give the SL lenses a run for their money, but generally, SL lenses are sharper across the board. Even the legendary 50 APO-M is bested by the 50 APO-SL.
@@RedDotForum If you haven’t seen it yet, check out Leica Australia’s talk with the guy who designs their lens & you will understand why the SL lens are better. And they talk about vintage lens just a bit.
What is the difference in recording internally versus externally?
The differences/advantages of an external recorder:
1) For some resolution/frame rate combos, you're limited to 8-bit 4:2:0 vs.10-bit 4:2:2. This is less of a concern on the SL2 than the SL as the more common C4K24 and C4K30 can be recorded at 10-bit 4:2:2 internally. It only becomes an issue at the faster C4K60.
2) Run time. Internally, the camera is limited to 29min or 96GB file size, whichever is smaller. Externally, there is no limit.
3) The format itself. Internally, files are MOV or MP4, both of which use H.264 encoding. Editing H.264 4K60 is extremely taxing on just about any computer (even my 10-core workstation with 64GB of RAM and GTX1080Ti GPU), whereas external recorders will use more editing-friendly codecs like ProRes 422, which can even be edited smoothly on laptops.
4) Bigger screen and capture assistants. Having a 5 or 7 inch screen with waveform, vectorscope, RGB parade, false color, zebras, LUT preview, HDR viewing, and zooming while recording is very helpful.
5) Capacity and GB/dollar concerns. I use a 2TB SSD on my Atomos, which costs $230. For the same price, I'd only get a V90 128GB SDXC card - so 16x more capacity for the same price. I plan on doing a video on video production with the SL2 when I have more than one SL2. I can also edit directly off of the SSD which has a read/write speed of 550MBs.
6) Audio. You can record audio tracks directly into video using XLR balanced microphone inputs in addition to the camera HDMI. The mic preamps in recorders are superior to the camera's 3.5mm mic jack.
Wow! A full frame sensor H.264 10-bit 4:2:2. I can expect more beauty to finally come out in the finishing process from a "photo" sized camera now. I wonder what kind of ecosystem can be for the bluetooth, wifi, usb-c, hot shoe, etc. Hmm... Also looking into LockCircle's Metal Jacket 2 cage.
www.lockcircle.com/store/?p=metaljacket/
Very informative
I like this camera and justify the price difference with S1R. Some people do not. They should be excited about S1R then? But I can see some contempt towards SL2. Hidden admirers?
I have an M9 and have an itch to upgrade to something that shoots higher resolution video. Would the SL2 be a good one to go with as an M9 replacement? Also, what camera did you use to shoot this video?
DPReview complained that the EVF had issues and it didn’t look sharp. Any comments on that?
EVF looked very sharp in my testing. It's a really incredible viewfinder experience. I haven't read the DPReview report yet, but will check it out and test with my SL2.
RedDotForum Thanks. I’d like to go test drive it in Coral Gables but unfortunately it’s a weekday and I work.
Is the new leica fotos pro app only for SL2 or will it be able to be used with SL601?
Meanwhile, I am very sure the SL3 will be much better than the SL2 ;-) Seriously, the SL2 does have some nice features which is lacking in the SL. But....compared to the Panasonic S1R, these features are actually quite similar :-)
professional performance
2 comments : 1- For years, Leica claim that IBIS reduces dramatically the image quality. And all off a sudden it becomes a must have. Leica dares to say that.
2- 6000€ for a SL2 vs 7000 to 7600€ for a M10. What's wrong with Leica's rates ?? How will you justify the M price from now on ?
Marc
With Leica, there is no such thing as price justification. You either buy or don’t. I don’t think their heads are way above water with their business model (a la Sony) but, they must sell enough to get by.
@@hioe04 I used to buy a Leica M6, R7, R8 and M240. Leica makes great cameras and optics. But the price of Q2 and SL2 bodies bring to light the extra billing of the M series.
Fine bit of Kit..
This camera is US$6000, but in Australia they are asking 9900 which is about US$6900. Thanks Leica
You might as well buy a Fujifilm GFX 50S instead. That can be had for $9,000 and Fuji lenses are far cheaper than Leica.
Peter Lemke COMPLETELY different camera; no thanks
It is in anticipation that the Pacific Peso aka AUD will keep sliding in value further and further.
Can you make any comments yet on the CAF performance as compared to the Panasonic S1/S1R/S1H
Not yet. We haven't done side-by-side comparisons, but I think that Sean Reid at reidreviews.com will be looking at this specifically.
RedDotForum Thanks do you feel the AF in general is better then it was on the original SL?
Is it design for continuous burst shooting with strobist / Flash ??
Do the Sony UHS II 260mbs R / 100MBS W cards work? (They worked in the GH5)
When connecting an external monitor to HDMI, does the external monitor work in Stills shooting and not just in Video? The current SL only works in video mode. Which is a pain when you need to take a stills image in a cramped environment and have to position the camera up against a wall or at very high or very low viewpoints.
Yes, when connected via HDMI, a clean signal is displayed on an external monitor, either in PHOTO or VIDEO mode. You can also use the Leica FOTOS app to view and trigger remotely.
RedDotForum this is fantastic! finally! thanks for confirming.
Clear not a big brick with a lot of confusing bottons !! Minimalistic.
This camera costs $6000 ..... For anyone interested.
Thanks. I assumed as much.
That’s a bargain.
Looks at glass💀
Its an LCD or LC display, not an LCD display.
Thanks for your review. How I can tether the SL2 to the computer?
Tethering is via USB 3.1 Type C. Leica will be releasing new software: Lieca Image Shuttle SL2 3.7 and Lightroom Leica Tether Plugin 2.0. Both will be available for Windows and Mac.
Panasonic S1r for me . Why buy SL2 when too much of Panasonic tech on this SL2 and not made in Germany plus twice the price . I had the leica SL and sold it and buy Panasonic S1R so far the Panasonic out perform the SL imo .
The Sony A7RIV outperform the S1R as well, you should go with Sony
is the wifi works like on sony a7? so i can shoot dng only and get jpeg using wifi?
I assume that Sigma and Panasonic L lenses work on this camera?
ZappaBlues Yes, all Sigma and Panasonic L-Mount lenses will work on the SL2.
@@RedDotForum Zeiss Batis will work with no adapter?
is it part of the L mount alliance.
thanks.
Yes. Leica is creator of the L-Mount and all Leica L-Mount cameras are part of the L-Mount Alliance.
nice review but no mention of battery or GPS??
The SL2 uses the same battery as the SL. GPS is now handled by connection to FOTOS app but we haven't been able to test this yet. So much information to cover in one video! We are considering creating more targeted videos, each tackling specific aspects of the SL2.
Needs to tether to capture one natively
You can use Leica Image Shuttle and hotfolder capture in C1. I doubt that Phase One will add native tether support as Leica and Phase One are competitors.
Is the volume so incredibly low on this video?
@Chris check your YT volume Slider... mine was set in the middle for whatever reason... once i raised it it was normal.
Does anyone here have an issue with focusing to infinity?
My camera seems to be unable to do that :|
With what lens? In auto focus or manual focus mode?
RedDotForum 24-90 Vario Elmarit. Both in manual in auto - when it measures infinity is actually 100% out of focus
High amount of voltage :D :D
With there be a Sl2-p ?
Am I the only SL owner who didn't know what the hell he was talking about for 75% of the video⁉️😫😫😫
It is a beautiful camera for sure but if you are a photographer , X1D mark II or GFX50s will be better option. I don't believe this camera can give better IQ than medium format... 6K is just too much for a FF camera. 4000-4500 USD would be nice.
@GKhan Do you know if X1Dii or GFX50r/s provides more than 14bit dynamic range?
@@bravolee7222 no they have both same Sony sensor and it can produce 14bit raw files and 8 bit Tiff. If you want true 16bit, you should go with GFX100 camera.Hasselblad says X1D is 16 bit but it is fake 16bit because sensor is not capable to produce 16 bit if you check Sony website.
How sigma will answer with their up coming Camera body 🤔🤔🤔
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Ohhhh I thought it was the Panasonic S1R... well it is, leica cant build useful good cameras on their own anymore...
Isn't this just a rebadged Panasonic S1R?
Imhotep397 No, it’s not. The SL2 outperforms the S1R in numerous metrics from frame rate to video capabilities to sensor micro lenses and higher quality construction. Of course, Leica has taken advantage of some available components like sensors and IBIS architecture, just as Nikon, Fuji and Hasselblad use Sony sensors in their cameras. Doesn’t mean that an X1D is a rebadged GFX. The SL2 is designed and built by Leica in Germany, and uses components and technology from partners where it makes sense.