🫠 you right! Thanks for making these awesome videos, I feel like yours are the only ones that give me all the information in a way I can process, try, and then share to audiences. Also have you thought about doing a video on the iPhone 15 log video workflow for Davinci? 👀
You should really consider using lossless compression, makes a big difference with the sizes yet it is lossless in terms of quality. Even ARRI has a program to reduce its uncompressed RAW to save drive space.
Thanks for the video, I noticed a few things you may want to try, I did the resolve colorist training recently but I'm primarily a shooter. I learned so much from that training, mostly about color spaces, the settings within resolve, and how to get the best workflow. I'm not sure if converting from praw to cinema dng affects this but you should still change your raw settings to cinema dng and most importantly change the input color space of the stuff you shot, ie slog 3, if you have davinci color managed on, you should immediately see the slog 3 clips take on 709 look, basically it does most of the work for you then you tweak your color balance, its the "DaVinci color managed" setting here that does this. I noticed this first with working with braw clips but didn't know it was possible with non blackmagic footage until I did the training. It's color managing from your input space to the timeline colorspace, which you have as rec 709 2020 and that's why it the footage is not washed out because you told resolve the color space/gamma, it then applies a tone curve saving you the time of having to balance the log stuff to 709
It's not a tone curve or tonemapping, it's a mathematical calculation that is non-destructive. ACES has their own calculations and so does Davinci Wide Gamut
This is great! I just bought a FX3 and use resolve 18 Lite. So was bummed when I couldn't use the in-camera 10bit 4.2.2 codec AND to find out that I need to buy RAW to convert files- I bought a SSD to “activate” ProRes Raw, but like you said the files are YUGE, and need Raw which is over $100. I'd probably only use this for future commercial work. Could you share your current workflow, and settings on the FX3 v4.0. And do you use DVR Studio? BTW; Sidney is awesome and love the workflow for RAW is In depth, and love your channel and content also!
It looks like you have experience with the Blackmagic video assist and the ninja V. I have seen a few (literally 2) comparisons. I would love to know your views on how both devices compare. Also, fan noise, I keep hearing the ninja V has bad noise while the video assist does not, but nobody covers it in their comparisons! Thank you and keep it up!
Great video, very informative and clear! At 3:13 it looks like ISO is greyed out. From my understanding, when importing BRAW you can edit the ISO here. Is the greyed out ISO to do with the CDNG-conversion?
Interesting little episode. I understand that you've had to adapt your Prores Raw footage before Resolve will play nicely with it, however I very much would appreciate your experience on the image quality differences between ProRes Raw and ProRes HQ in Resolve. Are you talking Night and Day differences or is it more subtle in the image quality provided both codecs were shot with the correct White Balance and exposure in camera? I'm interested to experiment with ProRes Raw on my GH6 and Ninja 5 but I did not think this was possible with Resolve. I'd also seen a few TH-cam tutorials that said there wasn't much difference between the Raw footage and the well respected ProRes HQ codecs to make the effort worthwhile. I just do all this for a hobby rather than doing it for a living. Cheers
Once you start color grading the difference will be evident. While ProRes is good, it’s still like a high quality jpeg that gives you latitude while ProRes raw is like having a raw photo that gives you full control.
@@JaymesMedia May I ask if you have worked with both ProRes RAW and ProRes HQ? And apart from adjusting the WB what other features would I benefit from as a non professional please?
This video was the first time I used the eldikrone: amzn.to/3gCpt3P But you definitely don’t need something expensive like that for these movements, before I had been using this: amzn.to/3EYwfua
Does Resolve support 12-bit? I don’t see in the specs that it does. That’s the benefit of recording RAW on the Ninja that got me hooked. Otherwise I don’t find much benefit to shooting RAW vs. XAVC-SI. But I really miss 12 bit when I go back to 10 bit. But that being said, sometimes I’ll shoot S-Cinetone if I’m in a hurry and I’m always impressed with how nice that image is considering it’s a smaller color space.
I've tried Raw Converter app, but it seams this app do not support Lumix S5 files for some reason. If anyone would be familiar with other options how to convert those 6K Raw files to use in Resolve I would be very much appreciated.
I need help with a problem. My videos recorded in Prores Raw have a green tint in the shadows. Anyone else with this problem? My camera is a Lumix S5. Thanks!
@@joecline__ How did you get this LUT onto your NINJA V ? Everytime I try to load the SGamut3CineSLog3_To_Cine+709 cube file, my Ninja V gets an error trying to open it.
…it’s an exceptionally good capture, edit, and deliver format. It’s still the most commonly used format on major TV when heavy VFX aren’t used. Look at the BTS of Game of Thrones and look at the capture format - they are Arri cameras, but unless it’s a VFX scene they are generally shooting Prores.
Bro! You gotta @ me next time! I just found this a year later! Thank you so much for the shout out!
🫠 you right! Thanks for making these awesome videos, I feel like yours are the only ones that give me all the information in a way I can process, try, and then share to audiences.
Also have you thought about doing a video on the iPhone 15 log video workflow for Davinci? 👀
for run and gun it's too much work. but for shooting a short film, this is a must in my opinion
You should really consider using lossless compression, makes a big difference with the sizes yet it is lossless in terms of quality. Even ARRI has a program to reduce its uncompressed RAW to save drive space.
Thanks for the video, I noticed a few things you may want to try, I did the resolve colorist training recently but I'm primarily a shooter. I learned so much from that training, mostly about color spaces, the settings within resolve, and how to get the best workflow. I'm not sure if converting from praw to cinema dng affects this but you should still change your raw settings to cinema dng and most importantly change the input color space of the stuff you shot, ie slog 3, if you have davinci color managed on, you should immediately see the slog 3 clips take on 709 look, basically it does most of the work for you then you tweak your color balance, its the "DaVinci color managed" setting here that does this. I noticed this first with working with braw clips but didn't know it was possible with non blackmagic footage until I did the training. It's color managing from your input space to the timeline colorspace, which you have as rec 709 2020 and that's why it the footage is not washed out because you told resolve the color space/gamma, it then applies a tone curve saving you the time of having to balance the log stuff to 709
It's not a tone curve or tonemapping, it's a mathematical calculation that is non-destructive. ACES has their own calculations and so does Davinci Wide Gamut
This is great! I just bought a FX3 and use resolve 18 Lite. So was bummed when I couldn't use the in-camera 10bit 4.2.2 codec AND to find out that I need to buy RAW to convert files-
I bought a SSD to “activate” ProRes Raw, but like you said the files are YUGE, and need Raw which is over $100. I'd probably only use this for future commercial work.
Could you share your current workflow, and settings on the FX3 v4.0. And do you use DVR Studio?
BTW; Sidney is awesome and love the workflow for RAW is In depth, and love your channel and content also!
RESOLVE should have some updates in short future to allow work directly with ProRes RAW.
Prob won’t happen 😢
Never going to happen
How do you import the ci rma dang to davinci? I just have a bunch of pictures
Is this a one time payment program like resolve or a term subscription?
Gracias hombre !!
It looks like you have experience with the Blackmagic video assist and the ninja V. I have seen a few (literally 2) comparisons. I would love to know your views on how both devices compare. Also, fan noise, I keep hearing the ninja V has bad noise while the video assist does not, but nobody covers it in their comparisons! Thank you and keep it up!
Awesome Idea! Can you submit it here so it goes into my list of video ideas? k93t43gti65.typeform.com/to/fxfnlytL?typeform-source=www.youtube.com
@@joecline__ Donezo!
I second this!! I'd love to see a comparison!!
Great video, very informative and clear! At 3:13 it looks like ISO is greyed out. From my understanding, when importing BRAW you can edit the ISO here. Is the greyed out ISO to do with the CDNG-conversion?
well it doesnt matter you have a exposure slider which works like lightroom exposure slider you wont see much difference
ISO is unavailable in the raw tab to CDNG.
It is time Resolve solve the problem, so that one can read prores raw directly
Your channel came up for me and I needed this specific video 🙏🏼
Glad it was helpful!
Interesting little episode. I understand that you've had to adapt your Prores Raw footage before Resolve will play nicely with it, however I very much would appreciate your experience on the image quality differences between ProRes Raw and ProRes HQ in Resolve. Are you talking Night and Day differences or is it more subtle in the image quality provided both codecs were shot with the correct White Balance and exposure in camera?
I'm interested to experiment with ProRes Raw on my GH6 and Ninja 5 but I did not think this was possible with Resolve. I'd also seen a few TH-cam tutorials that said there wasn't much difference between the Raw footage and the well respected ProRes HQ codecs to make the effort worthwhile.
I just do all this for a hobby rather than doing it for a living.
Cheers
Yea I would say they are pretty similar for sure but yea I’ll look into making a video on that!
Once you start color grading the difference will be evident. While ProRes is good, it’s still like a high quality jpeg that gives you latitude while ProRes raw is like having a raw photo that gives you full control.
@@JaymesMedia May I ask if you have worked with both ProRes RAW and ProRes HQ?
And apart from adjusting the WB what other features would I benefit from as a non professional please?
Hi mate, one question: does Davinci Resolve support ProRes 4:2:2 natively (without any kind of conversions)?
Yes it does! If you’re interested in me, making a video about that submit it as an idea here: k93t43gti65.typeform.com/to/fxfnlytL
@@joecline__ Sure I will do. Thanks!
Thanks!!! R U Kang the Conqueror?
Great video! Thanks much!
bro is a carnivo,,, your dental formula is shocking. nice video ,
How do you get all those camera movements into your videos, do you use a slider, or is someone manning the camera as you film?
This video was the first time I used the eldikrone: amzn.to/3gCpt3P
But you definitely don’t need something expensive like that for these movements, before I had been using this: amzn.to/3EYwfua
Does Resolve support 12-bit? I don’t see in the specs that it does. That’s the benefit of recording RAW on the Ninja that got me hooked. Otherwise I don’t find much benefit to shooting RAW vs. XAVC-SI. But I really miss 12 bit when I go back to 10 bit. But that being said, sometimes I’ll shoot S-Cinetone if I’m in a hurry and I’m always impressed with how nice that image is considering it’s a smaller color space.
DaVinci Resolve Studio suports even 16 bit raw.
16 bits
@@8020Alive Thank you. Go Ferrari!
Very well made video! Right to the point. Just subbed.
raw converter is free? I downloaded it for free. But I wonder if I have to pay for it when I use it. I have yet to buy atomos ninja v.
Yes it cost…. I think about $70 or so
Thanks dude!
Really good content... so honest so true!!!
Thanks so much 🙏🙏
[3:55] You forgot to select CinemaDNG from the RAW profile dropdown.
Great catch thanks for noting for anyone else who may have also noticed/missed that
@@joecline__ No problem and thanks for the great video!
Can you tell me what SSDs you are using for your Ninja v? I bought the Evo and it doesn’t work. Thanks in advance!
I've tried Raw Converter app, but it seams this app do not support Lumix S5 files for some reason. If anyone would be familiar with other options how to convert those 6K Raw files to use in Resolve I would be very much appreciated.
To my understanding that app is mainly for converting ProRes files? Does Davinci now support those files natively?
@@joecline__ not yet. That's why I'm searching for solution.
Windows version of Raw Convertor is available on Microsoft Store :)
Ayoooo
I need help with a problem. My videos recorded in Prores Raw have a green tint in the shadows. Anyone else with this problem? My camera is a Lumix S5. Thanks!
Is this monitor better than the black magic?
Timeline would be better to set to DaVinci Wide Gamut rather than Rec2020
So is there a reason to not directly record in cinema dng?
do you use the PQ in the Atomos for monitor?
I typically use this lut installed from Sony’s site: bit.ly/3AT3nB8
@@joecline__ How did you get this LUT onto your NINJA V ? Everytime I try to load the SGamut3CineSLog3_To_Cine+709 cube file, my Ninja V gets an error trying to open it.
@@terryalexander4783 I just through it onto a hard drive and plug the hard drive into the monitor
Prores Raw Vs Braw is like Jedi vs Sith lol Eventually someone has to go lol
Haha 😂
What happen ….. you look like a vampireeeeee hehehehe
😂 what do you mean
Does the monitor allowed u to recored to an ssd?
Yeah, no. I will stay with 10 bit intra codec. Works great for me
Why would you take ProRes into any coloring bay?
Hey! What do you mean? 🤔
…it’s an exceptionally good capture, edit, and deliver format. It’s still the most commonly used format on major TV when heavy VFX aren’t used. Look at the BTS of Game of Thrones and look at the capture format - they are Arri cameras, but unless it’s a VFX scene they are generally shooting Prores.
This is is so annoying. @davinci needs to stop being butthurt and allow RAW prores to work natively. Oh and on windows!