Tricksey and fun without being just a grindy value engine. I have held onto my Zada, Hedron Grinder deck for admittedly far too long for all the weird things you can do with that deck, but this seems like it's own unique challenge that scratches the same itch.
Great list! I think a great option for this deck that you might have dedicated more time to might have been clones. When Ivy mutates under another creature, she ceases being legendary, meaning that if she can be cloned, you can start racking up exponential value as one copy of targeted spells becomes three copies, plus an extra instance of all the mutate triggers already in the pile. Some great options would include Artisan of Forms for instance, which is cheap (in mana and dollars), and synergizes perfectly with our gameplan. This also has the benefit of making the deck a lot more resilient, since removing an Ivy only removes one instance of her, and preserves a full mutated stack to copy later and pick right back up. As a parting thought, consider that clone spells that target, such as croaking counterpart or Repudiate/Replicate, will create a copy of Ivy *for each of your Ivy's*. Just a fun thought to mull over.
Gargos, Vicious Watcher would be a good beat stick in this deck! I hope that we get to see a Tor Wauki deck soon. Bolas's Citadel would be a great way to storm off, especially with Tor's lifelink. But the unique trick I want to do is to play Hostility in the 99, with Tor in play Flame Rift would put 45 power on board for only two mana! 😎
I thought about Gargos as top end source of removal and while he did not make the cut, he would make a fine addition! And that combo is pretty sweet too - and easy to get to in our colors thanks to tutors!
Have been playing and modifying the deck from your Kardur video ever since it came out and it's definitely one of my favorite decks to pilot. Going to try this one out too! Great videos my man.
Nice build! Have you ever considered doing some gameplay videos with 4 of your decks being played against each other? I think a Shanna, Purifying Blade build would be cool to see next.
Glad you enjoyed it! The idea has been pitched by my playgroup but currently it seems like it would be too much of a production to make viable at this time. Still, as the channel grows it would certainly be something I would consider... Cut-Rate Colosseum has a nice ring to it....
Don't sell yourself short! I just have a lot of time to dedicate to building these - with enough time and refinement, I'm sure you can make a Ivy build that's as good or even better!
Glad you enjoyed it! While I agree, Invisible Stalker is less good than it could be in this deck due to it being a human and thus impossible to mutate on to. Its still good for a great target for our Aura's though, do feel free to add it in if you feel so inclined!
@@GrazzetMTG you know I completely forgot to check for human, I'm brand-new to Mutate. I've still found it to be brutal with some of the auras, but I'll have to keep in mind I can't mutate onto it, that definitely hurts.
I agree, Scale the Heights would be another good addition for the build for the extra land drops and Draw it provides when copied with Ivy - the life and counter being nice little additions as well!
So I actually did something similar to this with a Killian, Ink Duelist deck. His ability to reduce spells that target creatures by 2 works with the Bestow and Mutate mechanic, so I made my creature base nearly all creatures with those abilities.
That would be an interesting take in Killian. In the build I did for him I went more "kill spell" heavy but I can see a more aura/bestow/mutate dedicated build working as well.
Well, amazing video as always! Honestly, I am kinda speechless, as if someone stole the words out of my mouth and... wait a minUTE- Kinda mid jokes about theft aside, glad to see you reach a rather nice following. Now as to who's next... well, my vote goes to Sengir, since you can make a rather potent analogy for capitalism, and these can never get old if done correctly. Day 391 of waiting for a face reveal. Damn... I just realised how I forgot Karn's fate last time I asked a question. Yikes... have I had any similar lapses of judgement as of late?
Glad you enjoyed the build as usual and thanks for voting! And thanks for helping the channel build up the following that it has - couldn't have done it without the support of folks like you! No reason to feel bad - the only reason I knew about Karn's fate was thanks to the Magic Arcanum coverage of the books - and I can't recall any other lapses in judgement so your good on that front!
I'll be the evil guy and point out that small, cheap infect creatures (glistening elf or even better blighted agent) are really cool targets for mutate :D
That does certainly work, though the downside is that your creatures are going to be more fragile as well as deadly. That and your playgroup may hate you, but then again you're playing infect so it comes with the territory.
Can’t wait for the Ramses deck. Also will you be making votes for the future warhammer 40k commanders? I would love to see a Kharn the betrayer deck he looks like a very unique mono red commander.
Ramses is coming along very nicely so I hope you enjoy it! Unsure if I'll be covering the Warhammer 40k stuff, but if enough people request it I'd be down!
I am confused with Ivy and mutate. If we copy a mutate unto Ivy, lets say a Gemrazer, and we put Ivy under creating a Gemrazer with Ivy's effect, won't it stop us from copying future spells? Ivy specifies that the copy must targets Ivy, but its no longer an Ivy, its a Gemrazer now... help me understand please
Good question! The full rules for that can he found here: magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/ikoria-lair-behemoths-mechanics-2020-04-02 - but for the short version - any time a card refers to itself by name, it specifically referring to itself (regardless of what its name is changed into via mutate, stickers, or through other means). So when mutating onto Ivy, even is the mutate is on top, Ivy's effect still applies since it refers to the card itself regardless of name. Hope that helps! It can be a but confusing since mutate is a complicated mechanic.
I would say that this build falls within a power level 5 - 6 - Ivy's ability being very solid but being vunelable to being focused and to builds focused around edict effects that can ignore our creatures protection. Sholdred would be nice to cover but that nearly $50 price tag will make that difficult on a budget....
Sorry about the confusion - it lets us copy Ivy while she's on the stack to get a second copy of her, which when looking over the script I saw that it sounded like it made a copy of her on the field (which it does not do). Its still a good way to get an extra non-legendary copy of her in play though.
Please let me know in the comments what commanders you want to see from Dominaria United in future videos!
Even though I'm not a Simic guy, this deck looks fun and full of value. Thanks for the video.
Tricksey and fun without being just a grindy value engine. I have held onto my Zada, Hedron Grinder deck for admittedly far too long for all the weird things you can do with that deck, but this seems like it's own unique challenge that scratches the same itch.
Glad you enjoy it!
@@auroralee Do you have a list? Been meaning to build Zada for a while.
Great list!
I think a great option for this deck that you might have dedicated more time to might have been clones. When Ivy mutates under another creature, she ceases being legendary, meaning that if she can be cloned, you can start racking up exponential value as one copy of targeted spells becomes three copies, plus an extra instance of all the mutate triggers already in the pile.
Some great options would include Artisan of Forms for instance, which is cheap (in mana and dollars), and synergizes perfectly with our gameplan. This also has the benefit of making the deck a lot more resilient, since removing an Ivy only removes one instance of her, and preserves a full mutated stack to copy later and pick right back up.
As a parting thought, consider that clone spells that target, such as croaking counterpart or Repudiate/Replicate, will create a copy of Ivy *for each of your Ivy's*. Just a fun thought to mull over.
Gargos, Vicious Watcher would be a good beat stick in this deck!
I hope that we get to see a Tor Wauki deck soon. Bolas's Citadel would be a great way to storm off, especially with Tor's lifelink. But the unique trick I want to do is to play Hostility in the 99, with Tor in play Flame Rift would put 45 power on board for only two mana! 😎
I thought about Gargos as top end source of removal and while he did not make the cut, he would make a fine addition!
And that combo is pretty sweet too - and easy to get to in our colors thanks to tutors!
Have been playing and modifying the deck from your Kardur video ever since it came out and it's definitely one of my favorite decks to pilot. Going to try this one out too! Great videos my man.
Glad to hear that Kardur has been working well for you and happy to hear you've been enjoying the builds!
Fantastic build! And a great foundation for anyone to add onto their Ivy build (love the upgrade options at the end)
大変参考になりました。アイヴィーで頑張ってきます！
それを聞いてうれしいです、そして幸運を祈ります！[Glad to hear it and good luck! - not sure how well Google translate works with Japanese]
Dude! I love the decks you build!!!
Happy to hear it!
@@GrazzetMTG currently building an Ivy deck that is very similar to this one a few minor changes with some cards that i already had. Thanks very much
What a fun deck idea. This deck looks like it has some teeth for being a budget build. Love it!
Glad to hear you enjoyed it!
love it!
Was super excited for this one! Thank you!!
Hope you enjoyed it!
Nice build! Have you ever considered doing some gameplay videos with 4 of your decks being played against each other?
I think a Shanna, Purifying Blade build would be cool to see next.
Glad you enjoyed it!
The idea has been pitched by my playgroup but currently it seems like it would be too much of a production to make viable at this time. Still, as the channel grows it would certainly be something I would consider... Cut-Rate Colosseum has a nice ring to it....
I've been working on a decklist myself and your thought process helped me a lot. Thanks! I just subscribed :)
Glad it was helpful and welcome to the channel!
Sheesh - way better than any Ivy build I've been working on
Don't sell yourself short! I just have a lot of time to dedicate to building these - with enough time and refinement, I'm sure you can make a Ivy build that's as good or even better!
Same I sold all my cards in 2000 and only have access to newer cards
Nice video! It would be cool to see a Soul of Windgrace decktech here
Glad you enjoyed it! A few folks have asked for Soul of Windgrace, so you may see him in the polls sooner than you might think!
Invisible Stalker is a 2drop with built in Hexproof and Unblockable, definitely a good add. Love the tech!
Glad you enjoyed it!
While I agree, Invisible Stalker is less good than it could be in this deck due to it being a human and thus impossible to mutate on to. Its still good for a great target for our Aura's though, do feel free to add it in if you feel so inclined!
@@GrazzetMTG you know I completely forgot to check for human, I'm brand-new to Mutate. I've still found it to be brutal with some of the auras, but I'll have to keep in mind I can't mutate onto it, that definitely hurts.
Next vídeo would be also great!
Still your good job!
Thanks for the vote of confidence!
Awesome work Grazzet! Would love to see Jodah if you get the chance. Keep up the good work
Glad you enjoyed the build!
Hi I’m new too mtg. What brung me in was the Dimir Mill pre con deck with captain Ngrathrod and I would love to see your take on it.
Actually I already covered that - you can see it here: th-cam.com/video/QCbZHGnSXgg/w-d-xo.html
Good for this deck is sorcery for 3 mana that is explore+ put +1/+1 on creature+ you gain 2 life for 3 mana
I agree, Scale the Heights would be another good addition for the build for the extra land drops and Draw it provides when copied with Ivy - the life and counter being nice little additions as well!
Best commander channel 🙏
Thank you for the high praise!
Braids next, for sure!
Its sure looks like it considering how the polls are looking like right now!
So I actually did something similar to this with a Killian, Ink Duelist deck. His ability to reduce spells that target creatures by 2 works with the Bestow and Mutate mechanic, so I made my creature base nearly all creatures with those abilities.
That would be an interesting take in Killian. In the build I did for him I went more "kill spell" heavy but I can see a more aura/bestow/mutate dedicated build working as well.
Well, amazing video as always! Honestly, I am kinda speechless, as if someone stole the words out of my mouth and... wait a minUTE-
Kinda mid jokes about theft aside, glad to see you reach a rather nice following. Now as to who's next... well, my vote goes to Sengir, since you can make a rather potent analogy for capitalism, and these can never get old if done correctly.
Day 391 of waiting for a face reveal. Damn... I just realised how I forgot Karn's fate last time I asked a question. Yikes... have I had any similar lapses of judgement as of late?
Glad you enjoyed the build as usual and thanks for voting! And thanks for helping the channel build up the following that it has - couldn't have done it without the support of folks like you!
No reason to feel bad - the only reason I knew about Karn's fate was thanks to the Magic Arcanum coverage of the books - and I can't recall any other lapses in judgement so your good on that front!
I'll be the evil guy and point out that small, cheap infect creatures (glistening elf or even better blighted agent) are really cool targets for mutate :D
That does certainly work, though the downside is that your creatures are going to be more fragile as well as deadly. That and your playgroup may hate you, but then again you're playing infect so it comes with the territory.
Been waiting for this one
Hope it was worth the wait!
heyy, love your videos... which cards should I remove from the main deck to include the copy spells that you show in the upgrades?
I'd be interested in seeing your take on a sheoldred deck
I'd love to do it but sadly her nearly $50 price range makes that impossible on a budget.
Would love to see Braids budget build
Currently it looks Braids is holding a hefty lead in the polls - so if that trend continues you may just get your wish!
Can’t wait for the Ramses deck. Also will you be making votes for the future warhammer 40k commanders? I would love to see a Kharn the betrayer deck he looks like a very unique mono red commander.
Ramses is coming along very nicely so I hope you enjoy it!
Unsure if I'll be covering the Warhammer 40k stuff, but if enough people request it I'd be down!
How about that worm Lord guy and spell check keeps correcting wurm
Unsure which Wurm lord you mean - what does he do?
I am confused with Ivy and mutate. If we copy a mutate unto Ivy, lets say a Gemrazer, and we put Ivy under creating a Gemrazer with Ivy's effect, won't it stop us from copying future spells? Ivy specifies that the copy must targets Ivy, but its no longer an Ivy, its a Gemrazer now... help me understand please
Good question! The full rules for that can he found here: magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/ikoria-lair-behemoths-mechanics-2020-04-02 - but for the short version - any time a card refers to itself by name, it specifically referring to itself (regardless of what its name is changed into via mutate, stickers, or through other means). So when mutating onto Ivy, even is the mutate is on top, Ivy's effect still applies since it refers to the card itself regardless of name.
Hope that helps! It can be a but confusing since mutate is a complicated mechanic.
whats the power level of this deck? Would love to see a sheoldred deck next!
I would say that this build falls within a power level 5 - 6 - Ivy's ability being very solid but being vunelable to being focused and to builds focused around edict effects that can ignore our creatures protection.
Sholdred would be nice to cover but that nearly $50 price tag will make that difficult on a budget....
Nice deck as usual! Do you think you'll do possible upgrades for the warhammer decks?
Glad you enjoyed it!
Unsure about tackling the 40K builds as of yet, but if enough people are interested I can certainly make content for them!
Oh no! im late!
Better late than never!
Vesuvan Duplimancy…
Anyone have a good link for the decklist? The one in the description says "Bad Gateway" on all my devices.
This one should work - www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5104568#paper
Hope that helps!
@@GrazzetMTG your amazing! Thanks!
i vote for braids
Hope you enjoy the Braids build!
double major dose not work on ivy =/
Sorry about the confusion - it lets us copy Ivy while she's on the stack to get a second copy of her, which when looking over the script I saw that it sounded like it made a copy of her on the field (which it does not do). Its still a good way to get an extra non-legendary copy of her in play though.
Bro you really don't have to talk as if you're about to serve Foot Lettuce