King Charles should not apologise for slavery | Royal expert Simon Heffer on coronation
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- Is the coronation going to plan? Are Britons still interested in the monarchy? And will King Charles’ reign be overshadowed by the Duke and Duchess of Sussex? To discuss, Steven Edginton is joined by the esteemed historian and journalist Simon Heffer.
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Simon is the reason why I follow the telegraph Utube channel. I really enjoy listening to his opinions. He is intelligent and very easy to listen to. The content he provides is top quality. I look forward to hearing more from him. The interviewer is also very good. Together they are a great fit. I could listen for hours.
If an apology is made for slavery, then a lot more countries than England must apologise.
Hear! Hear! I am of Filipino ancestry and a citizen of Canada (which I very much treasure), and yes, King Charles is my King. Whenever my sisters and I hear about reparations from European colonizers, massive eye rolls and much laughter ensue, and then we pretend to plan our strategy on how to petition from the King of Spain for reparations. 😂💐
@violetacalayan-yh8wq The vikings and romans invaded England centuries ago. Are we going to ask them for reparations? It will never end. We don't live in a perfect world. Let's go forward and treat people better than our ancestors did. The US government must certainly treat American Indians better.
@@az1758 That is why we need to know history - love it - we learn from it and hence be better. Cheers 🥂 - I am finishing up some leftover bubbly 😂
According to the bible slavery is condoned. Bishops were warlords who possessed great riches and lived in a manse where they were served by serfs, by slaves. Apology? Are we to apologize for the public murders by the Inquisition, which was led by the Dominicans, the henchmen of the Church tortured and publicly murdered a great many innocent people.
@Foxglove963 Slavery is mentioned, God does not condone it. A great many atrocities have been committed by the church, all of which will be judged and condemned.
Simon Heffer is always wonderful to listen to. His responses to questions are always well thought through and measured. Thanku.
Love listening to this so intelligent gentleman, he nows history so very well & thank him for a very interesting discussion.
I appreciate the extremely level-headed analysis offered by Simon Heffer. I always enjoy Steven Edginton's interviews.
Simon is spot on.
I'll be watching with my 91 year old Mum who told me today that when she got home from work her Dad had bought their first television so they could watch the Coronation of Queen Elizabeth 11 👑
Thar is good. Enjoy.
That is amazing. They will now enjoy watching lots of great programmes.
It is absurd to castigate Britain for slavery. Not only did she condemn this inhumane activity early on, but she employed her Royal Navy to prevent it as much as possible elsewhere (including on the African coasts and Moslem-controlled areas, where Africans and Moslems sold Blacks - and Whites- into this degradation). I hope KCIII will not go down the foolish path of Apology. Frankly, many ancestors of every person on Earth probably did unpleasant things to other people, and their descendants should not be blamed, punished, harassed, or otherwise held responsible.
As for the anti-monarchists in Britain, they need to open their eyes and look at the antics of politicians in their own country and abroad who served during the late Queen's seventy-year reign. GB was fortunate to have QEII as its symbol. I hope for Britain's sake that the new monarch and his wife will carry on as adroitly as did she.
These countries are only after money and they know Britain is a soft touch,.... unfortunately!
Excellent interviewer and Simon's answers.
Our King should tell the world how we stopped slavery.
And quit selling opium?
Joke of the century....😂
Oh really😂😂
@@thebangkokconnection4080 No just tell them we solved the salery issue for the world.
@@aayushbhingare2279 No, slavery was an important issue we resolved mate.
Simon Heffer at his best
Its boring the coronation no excitement
He is huffing and puffing
The king should not apologise for slavery as he is not responsible for something that happened in the 16th century it was abolished and there is none alive now to apologise to
No. There must be no apology for things done in the past, much less should there any kind of 'compensation'. Nothing would satisfy them, there would be no end to it.
britian has already paid using its own treasure, even though the slave trade was nothing to do with the state - now i think we should be asking for our compensation for all the Brits taken into slavery for the Barbary Coast ... no one seems to even mention them
Get real. There should no doubt be an apology made for the terrible acts of colonialism that went on for centuries and destroyed indigenous cultures around the world. Pull your head in and actually use your brain or do some research into this. Apologise and return ALL stolen artefacts to their rightful owners, then we can move forward.
@@Rey619fan4Life Nah not happening. Should my country of Australia ask for compensations for the abuses against my convict ancestors? Nope its in the past and should stay there. I think King Charles's efforts of emphasising that historians should look at the empires past is a good thing but thats where it should end.
I'm pleased that Mr. Heffer is among those of us who do not understand or desire Britain to be a multicultural society. What has been driving the social divisions and misunderstandings we've been enduring of late is the failure of nations like Britain to insist that immigrants adopt the monoculture that appealed to them to join in the first place. Of course immigrants would be free to enjoy their cultural heritages that don't conflict with those of the host nation. However, once the unassimilated reach a critical level (which has in fact occurred in parts of Britain), the entire culture will be diminished and a resulting lack of social solidary prevail to everyone's detriment.
Unless the Nation dissolves and abhors the enforced Abrahamic religions. Break the chains!
Britain felt over populated and shipped the 1820 settlers to South Africa and others to Australia and only allow them back into the country of their ancestry with passports.
Then proceeded to repopulate with people who were so diverse that one wonders what will happen to English Tradition.
I am from the USA and I will watch the coronation if I wake up early enough. My sisters and mother will also watch. The world press would do everyone on earth by never mentioning H and M. King Charles as well as Anne have always been my favorites among the royals. I see this nod to tradition, the symbols and pageantry as a respite to the horrors we see daily in Ukraine and the middle east. Mr Edgington did a fine interviewof a wise historian with whom I agree on almost every point. Slava Ukraine. Long live the King!
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Agreed, he shouldn't apologise for something he has not done. Morally wrong of people to think that this is the way things should be
William was on the plane when he was told about Lady Hussey. Maybe he was not told the full facts. He could have said, "can someone deal with it" as he was most likely working on what he was going to do in New York. We shall never know.
I think the problem with William on that day as well as now is he's caught between the woke and the bespoke and he doesn't know which way to go. HIS wife is his pillar and his Rock but I wouldn't say Kate is an intellectual and I wouldn't think Kate would ever would investigate something as abstract as WOKE and figure out how she can guide him since he is probably otherwise occupied, not to say that she herself does not have her own duties. I actually have been wondering if she was invited to the coronation. Does anyone know?
@@LadyBug1967 Carole Patterson - NOBODY on here is going to know.
Super interview
If any apology is made for slavery which ended 250 years ago, then a huge apology should be made to the the asian countries where its still in living history which nobody talks about
Who is running the slavery that is still in living history in Asian countries?
@@maryanyone corrupt governments I guess
@@helenalovelock1030 but it was so specific that it peaked my interest. I need to get the real background... if it really does exist! People tend to come on here and just dump stuff.
The UK was the first country in the world to take steps to stop slavery. For the ignorant amongst us, as Princess Ann confirmed, slavery still goes on today, in many forms. For a small island the UK makes an enormous impact, why? Because we do things right, simple as
A great interview with two knowledgable men with balanced open minded, what a relief 😊
I could listen to Simon Heffer all day long . . .
The most wise man. Agree 100% with everything he said.
No one alive owned a slave and no one alive was a slave. It may have been white males who owned slaves in the UK and the US but it was also white males freed slaves. In the US it took a horrific war in my family I've found two fourth great uncles that lost their lives and my great great Grandfather lost his leg. He and his brothers felt strongly about the abolishment of slavery. Now I hear the chatter about reparations for descendants of slaves. Ok what do I get then? I know for a fact it cost my family Grandmother's Grandfather could not farm with one leg and ended up selling and down sizing. Gram said he never once complained but felt it was his duty to help end slavery. In the long haul in the US slavery cost us a lot.
As an American, I've admired quite a few English people in my time, and I'm greatly pleased to add Mr. Heffer to that august list. Such well-spoken honesty trumps all those 'elephants in the room,' especially when it comes to our shared history. None of us have a duty to apologize for things done generations before our time, and it is so refreshing to hear it spelled out so eloquently as this.
Most people who have been slaves have been slaves of the North African Islamics. If there's a competition for who's taken the most slaves up to now, it's the Barbery Islamic North African Slave Industry which has been running for hundreds of years and is still up and running as I type.
I love this gentleman, the way he speaks and explains. I always like to watch his interviews. Hope there will be more
Astonished to see Simon is only 62 - he looks much older. Always enjoyed his pieces in the Telegraph.
Omg I think he looks older than 62 I’m nearly 75 and look much younger.
Lovely to hear Simon's opinions.. knowing that he takes from knowledge...
His knowledge about the monarchy is amazing..
I am an American and quite enjoyed watching the coronation from across the pond. We are quite fond of the British royalty, especially among them King Charles and Prince William. I understand why our ancestors rebelled against King George III back in the day, but in retrospect, we find ourselves wondering if that was really a good idea.
We know what the royal family do. I have lost a let of admiration that I once had for David Starkey. Why should we apologise for something that we can’t change. We abolished slavery and yet for years after many African countries were still happily selling their own people for revenue. A very interesting interview.
Sadly, respect of an institution which has existed for hundreds of years and means a great deal to many many British citizens. Would that every citizen would promise to their fellow citizens that they will personally devote themselves to serving one another, in a spirit of gratitude and caring, I certainly am going to do my very best to do just that for as long as I live.😊
"She's beyond my comprehension"
Brilliant 👏
Slavery is mentioned in the Bible. Shoud we go back and inv estigate that?
As to Harry Who he will be little more then a foot note now. I feel Harry got his shot with his book. The albatross about Harry's neck he must live with. I'm glad to live inland and won't ever be bothered by them. I hope the dear Queen was able to overlook her and not have a second of distress. She was beloved on this side of sea and not just by our northern friends.
God Save The King! God Save The future of the Royal family.
King Charles has no need to apologise for anything that happened in the past, he was not a part of it. The past is the past in another 200yrs time if the world is still here people will be saying that a lot of practices that are in place today will be outlawed. We have gotten to the point where quiet often the very generations & people that help bring a stop to alot of these out dated practices of the past are being blamed for them & are being asked to apologise & compensate for things that have been totally out of their hands. It's all about money full stop nothing else, no one can live in the past we can only learn from it & move forward. Sadly enough so much progress is being held up by woke rubbish, victimhood & money. It wouldn't matter how many times people apologised with both words & money many people would never be happy. 🇦🇺🐨
The woke society a running a muck! some traditional things are lovely to see & maintain.
Humanity hungers for spectacles. That’s why young people and not so young people go to live Rock Concerts rather than watch on TV. That’s why the colosseums in Rome where so large. During the Dark Ages and Middle Ages Monarchs gave their subjects spectacular parades, processionals and yes, Coronations. To give the people a respite from their hard day to day existence. Life was hard, and still is, so these events feed that something that is missing in our lives.
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I am so sorry for your delusion !!
Maybe it's time for a hobby. Just an idea.
The world's leading Presidential historian Dr Alvin Felzenberg, is in London. I would love to hear his profound thoughts on the Coronation and the Anglo American relationship.
Also, I would love to hear what AN Wilson ( Christian ) thinks about the Coronation and modern England.
I consider myself a political (and, indeed, a social) centrist and agree that things are going too far in terms of the so-called 'Woke' agenda, and in the consideration of potential reparations for behaviour (i.e., the transatlantic slave trade) that everyone concedes was abhorrent but which ended some 220 years ago. Many ordinary, far from wealthy people of the time paid into pension funds that invested directly in the slave trade; are we now also to demand that all descendants of those individuals pay into some form of compensatory scheme for the great, great, great, great, great grandchildren of those shipped to the Atlantic colonies? Should we ban all performances of music by Handel (including 'Zadok the Priest', a cornerstone of all Coronation Ceremonies) because the composer invested in the Royal African Company? The list is endless and senseless.
I agree,no apologies ,no reparations,not a single penny, they can leave the Commonwealth tomorrow if they don't blooming like it.
Do not apologize for slavery! It is history, long dead leave it be!
A very interesting interview. 🇬🇧
This slavery issue is toxic and doesn't belong during this coronation
The royal are toxic and dysfunctional horrible family
Prince Albert apologized for slavery in 1840.That said ,if apologies are to be demanded lets start with the slaves decendznts demanding apologizes from the tribal chiefs decendants who SOLD THEIR OWN PEOPLE TO THE SLAVERS....Around and around it goes ..Or I have an idea , why not get on with it and improve on the now with focus on the future?
No he shouldn't. 😮😮
No apology required 👌 😂😂😂
Can’t help watching Simon massaging his thighs.
Agree
No he shouldn't.
We have a good instinct about our monarchs - we may not be able to explain it bit by bit, but we just know.
The people who insisting king Charles apologies must go back where they come from and ask the current government there to apologise to them for making and selling them slaves. They may not get a chance to come back because they make make good meal for the people.
Is that how it works now? Anytime there is a big event slavery 150 years ago has to be apologized for?
Why did he mention that the king is defender of the faith? That title was awarded to Henry viii by a pope, in view of Henry’s critique of Lutheranism. It has nothing to do with the king’s headship of the church in England, which was established later by an Act of Parliament, allowing the same parliament also to dissolve the king’s marriage, and to grant many other divorces until the power was transferred to judges.
The King, as her late majesty is the head of the Co fE Church The Faith is Christianity, we are a Christian Nation who follows TheOne True Living God, AdonaiHeb/Jehovah english & the Lord Jesus, it is the only Faith that is NOT, A RELIGION, we have many religions in the nation, & One Fait, l Listen to what the King says when Crowned, he pledged allegiance to, our God, ADONAI/Jehovah, , it's time these religions respected the fact, they live in a Christian Nation, if they don't like it they shouldn't have come to live here, We are not allowed to worship our One True Living God, in most other, nation's, Amen!,
Bliss , HOW CAN Charles be the head of the Church of England considering the fact that he was not married in the Church of England and according to the rules of the Church of England, as a divorcee marrying a divorcee ,he is not qualified or allowed to be married in the Church of England. ERGO, how can a man whose marriage is not recognized by the church of England, be HEAD OF THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND. ??
Im glad that someone finally told the truth about slavery, both sides contributed to this, anyway at this time slavery was common everywhere around the world, but only black people believe they are special
Wokeness is the New Religion
I love listening to this gentleman as I find him very measured and knowledgeable. He mentions though that Black people have always been treated as equals of whites in the Commonwealth in modern times. Not only is that obscenely untrue but I know Black people who feel very hurt when white (especially!) men make comments like these. I recently chatted with the father of a friend of mine who is Black and grew up in a Commonwealth country. He was a scholar (and had the newspaper clippings to prove) and was fully settled in a career by the 1970's. He went to Barclay's bank (who also only employed people who were white or looked as close to white as possible) and asked for a loan that was twice his monthly salary and was asked what a "little" black boy like him was going to do with so much money. He was a 6' 5" grown man! He cried when he recounted the humiliation. In addition, the assets were held by the small minority of Brits. Look in current day islands and see how that colorism continues to impact wealth with minority white (or as near white as possible) immigrants controlling wealth. Downton Abbey brilliantly covered how the failing gentry, who couldn't keep up with the "fairness" of capitalism, moved to the colonies. There they were able to live like Kings there! It is these varying recollections that cause the bitterness in the very Commonwealth. I don't know how any form of repatriations would work but I think a lot of people would just like there to be more truthful representations of what happened and continue to happen!
Erm no
Mr Heffer I won't be putting Princess Diana "sentimentality " behind me but remember her for her suffering and kindness and what she gave to humanity.
The Netherlands, which today is also accused of atrocities of hundreds of years ago and face many demands for retribution and compensation had the current government having to apologise. However, institutions of trade that directly benefitted such as the Dutch Bank established a huge fund worth millions to invest in former colonies’ youth, scholarships and welfare programmes. Perhaps looking at what other nations that ‘have to apologise’ are doing could be helpful.
Try "BRITISH" NOT BRITS.
No one should Apologize for something that happened way before a lot of people were born is all of ridicules people just need to be stupid and I hope the Coronation is supposed to be with tradition why is people even questioning that
A sacred moment indeed. Those of us who are not 'whipper snappers' know and understand it All. David Starkey, yes, he has lost favour in my eyes. He should stick to Tudor English history - that he does do so well.
The late Queen Elizabeth II had a very good relationship with the Presidents - Eisenhower to Biden - , I wonder what the world's leading Presidential historian Dr Alvin Felzenberg feels about that relationship and how he thinks Prince Charles III's relationship will be with the Presidents.
No it will not be. It never hurts to apologize for past history of having a part of slavery and no need to get into the history, the issue is slavery is not particularly good in my opinion and there is nothing wrong with saying that. People of the common wealth may have had a terrible experience with this issue in the past and probably not currently. Most people likely do want to acknowledge this experience of their past ancestors. Handle this with grace and kindness.
I think there are two sides to this argument, one one hand slavery should be consigned to history, one of it's darkest threads that has been woven into human societies for millennia, not just the British Empire profited from slavery, so did the Portuguese/Brazilian, the French and from way before the Europeans got involved in the trade the Arabs (who made slaves twice as many as us Brits), the Ottoman Empire and many of Africa's own populations.
On the other hand we can't expect for the British Empire's past misdeeds to be regarded as ancient history but at the same time still celebrate it as contemporary and relevant (also by giving out OBE and CBE, as a honour just award a "Order of the British Kingdom" or some such")
I think a certain group in this country so underestimate and misjudge the people of this country, we are proud of our country and our monarchy (young and old) see how many of us turned up or watched on TV the jubilee celebrations and the late Queen's funeral and I am sure the Kings coronation. Sadly there are a very small minority of people and groups that don't agree with it all. Thank goodness these are only small and of no importance to anybody. It is time that the leaders of this country LISTENED to the majority and not the minority. We should not let the cranks and nutter's take away our history and traditions because these things make us who we are. Cranks and nutter's come and go. The majority and monarchy will always be here.
Prince Albert apologised in 1840. How many apologies are required? Here’s a tiny part of his apologetic speech
‘I deeply regret the benevolent and persevering exertions of England to abolish that atrocious traffic in human beings, at once the desolation of Africa and the blackest stain upon civilised Europe, have not as yet led to any satisfactory conclusion. But I sincerely trust that this great country will not relax in its efforts until it has finally and forever put an end to a state of things so repugnant to the spirit of Christianity and the best feelings of our nature…”
I greatly admire Prince Albert.
Apologize for slavery? Britain put itself in debt for nearly a century to purchase the freedom of every slave in the empire, and then it spent the better part of the 19th century and most of the might of the Royal Navy stamping out the Atlantic Slave Trade. And during the American Civil War, ordinary (poor working class) workers in the cotton mills in Northern England refused to work with cotton from Confederate states. in 1862, Lancashire mill workers, at great personal sacrifice, took a principled stand by refusing to touch raw cotton picked by US slaves. In 1863, US President Lincoln wrote to the 'working men of Manchester' thanking them for their anti-slavery stance ..
"Although an extraordinary gesture, the vote would be costly to the mill workers as more of them faced starvation and destitution. Disorder had already broken out in some northern towns, with the army having to read out the Riot Act.'"Quote from the Guardian.
I agree with Simon on the subject of the Hereditary Peers I think it’s sad that they weren’t invited and weren’t there because they do run the Government, I’m hoping that the next coronation of William that they will be invited and be there in their red robes, coronets, and glittering jewels to do their homage because I can think of no other more worthy occasion to wear those beautiful things.
Agree, but please note that they definitely do not run the government. Listen again to this talk, may I suggest.
The powers that be destroyed my beautiful family boudoir piano, which had all the required documentation for repatriation to Britain from the US, without my consent, ……. smashed it to pieces. I am still absolutely heart broken. I gave up trying to save it after researching other similar barbaric actions for even concert pianists beautiful instruments…totally destroying pianos working parts although being antiques and so exempt from destruction. I couldn’t afford to hire lawyers to fight a loosing battle. It’s similar to and as dreadfully unfair as the suggested reparations and apologising for something none of us living did and are completely horrified by to this day.
As black woman he should not apologise for slavery slavery happen what can we do about it nothing i am not going to sent up blood pressure over slavery leave slavery to GOD Amen.
Yes he should
Well then all these commonwealth countries should become independent because they doesn’t need Kings and Queens to be Head of State
Because they still not having the support they needed
Thank goodness Guyana became independent since 1966
What a garden!
No one living to day who are claiming reparation have ever been slaves and Britain was the first to abolish slavery. The people wanting reparation should go to Africa and claim reparation from the chieftains who sold them.
INTERESTED IN THE MONARCHY; NOT HARRY N MM!!!
I agree. Slavery has existed since time began.
Boy George should bow !
The world will NEVER forget, Princes Diana!!!
Oh, please-- all of these people who can't separate myth from fact. I lived through the Diana years, if she had matured into a middle aged woman, this obsession towards her would be so transparent. The Crown is not reality.
Yes, all those calling her "Princess Diana" show exactly what their opinion & esteem is worth.
@@mtngrl5859 , people like her, wouldn't mature, she was too much into herself, me,me,me, like her daughter-in-law!Me againtwo peas in a pod!
Well we can’t forget Diana as long as Harry keeps re-living all her faults, lack of understanding and bad attitudes.
the monarchy did profit from slavery so they should pay reparations to slave descendants but the cash must not from the public purse, the monarchy profited but the people did not, so he should if he feels he needs to pay from his own pocket, something they have never done. same applies to businesses who also profited if there descendants feel they need to they should do the same, we should also extend this to Irish and scottish indentured slaves who were sent to the colonies as slaves.
No, I believe it was George V who made this remark, refering to the Radio Broadcast. Feeling like a Dinosaur, I do remember the Queen's Coronation. I watched it on our family Television Set, so I'm listening to this with interest. He's already made one mistake. Is this how history is written? People muddle up all the stories and Bingo! A page of history is written.
The idea that anyone today should apologise or pay reparations for things they didn’t do, that happened hundreds of years ago, and that were entirely normal for the time, is absurd. Life was short and brutal for everyone - even the royals. They used to hang draw and quarter people, stick heads on spikes, it was conquer or be conquered. No tribe or nation is free of sin - including African, Indian, Native American, aboriginal and Māori. History is what it is, obsessing about it this way is very unhealthy and looks to me like blatant grifting.
Isaiah 14 Verses 7
No apology for slavery necessary from king Charles. Christ our ha Maschiak our true King will bring our justice. We wait on Him and Him alone.
Has King Charles got to appologise for banning the African slave trade then ?
He shouldnt have too, because many African slave traders ignored him and the current African slave trade is now larger than ever. Perhaps these people should take their claims there ?
It is not Charles Windsor, personally, who should apologize. But if the institution, after careful investigation, had been proven to have had a dirty past with the slave trade? Then King Charles III could, perhaps even should, apologize in the name of the Crown.
Charles might not bear any responsibility personally. But the institution is ever enduring and continues to this day and beyond. It existed as a legal entity then and it does now.
The same as a prime minister who can apologize for things the government has done in the past, so should the current ruling monarch be able to for things the Crown has done in the past.
It doesn't mean reparations, but a sincere honest apology could be the closure some might seek. Acknowledge the past, commit to be better in the future. Let's all just move on from this devise topic towars a more inclusive and better tomorrow!
This interview should be shown in every classroom in this country…. We need to better understand our own history and better understand exactly what we get from having a Monarchy. At least the RF are not required to get re-elected every 5 years, leading to bribery, influencing, lobbying etc. the RF don’t need to win votes all the time. If we got rid of ‘them’ imagine the 100’s, yes 100’s of charities that would lose their revenue, and then all those people who receive help from those charities would be without any kind of aid. There should be a programme within on our educational curriculum explaining the role of Monarchies and Governments. We get to 18 and suddenly we get to vote on stuff many of us don’t even think about until that very moment.
So true. We benefit so much from a head of state that’s not political. No loyalty with presidents who’s main focus is to get re-elected.
If it take 54 minutes to explain why he shouldn't apologize for slavery... He should probably apologize for it....
Of cours every body will be watching on Tv ,God save the king❤🙏
No
It wS his mom not him
No but he should apologise for all the NONCING
Bigger things in Ukraine . Not the SPARE time for the coronation . Elizabeth was the end of my connection
It's about time we accepted that any British person who made money in the 18th and early 19th centuries had a connection of some kind with slavery and stop obsessing about it. All that indignant energy should be directed to combating modern slavery, but of course that means getting off the comfortable moan sofa and actually doing some hard work.
Historians disagree. England never traded in slaves as the USA. They were first country early on late 1600's that any ship arriving with slaves were immedately freed.
Simon Heffer? PARDON ????? Uwe Seeler is a monarchist?
Why is this gentleman (who is very intelligent & has a great way of expressing his opinion), constantly rubbing the top of his thighs? According to those who study behavioral patterns, it is considered a way of self soothing oneself. Or, is he just nervous? I'm curious. Has anyone else noticed this?
Please, Mr Heffer, try to drop some weight. Forgive me if this is too direct, but I worry about your health. We need your sane, informed, insightful views for years to come, especially during what will doubtless be a disastrous incoming Labour government with its silly innovations and unhistorical wheezes which will need your tremendously valuable critique. Stay well, Mr Heffer, please. We are a richer country for your presence and voice.
I agree 👍 💯 👏 all races at one time going back in history were slaves go back look at history in all countries
I had to close off the lower part of this picture I found the constant rubbing his legs distracting ……..
Agreed!
Is it possible Simon is in a lot of pain? I guess we shouldn't be so quick to judge others? That is GOD'S job, right?
He seems very much into putting the past behind us instead of holding anyone accountable for egregious misconduct. But he also wants to keep the past very much with us where it suits.
Outdone by a four year old.