That was very helpful! Thank you very much. Mine is a keyed installation so now I know I need to replace my failed latch with a deadlatch not a spring latch. BTW, my old deadlatch failed because even when the protective piece was fully extended, you still could not press the latch back. That meant that the only way to close the door was by using the handle. I bet that is a common failure mode now that I've seen your video!
This is such good information! Thanks. I noticed that mine does not work properly. A card can easily open the door when in locked position. I think that the strike plate is on incorrectly or does belong to the door latch set.I am also wondering if the dead lock plunger could be installed so that it is on the same side as the lock-side of door. Then it would be difficult to get a card or something else to move it as opposed to the other sloped side. This may sound vey confusing - i don't know how to explain it better.
I think you've explained it very accurately and succinctly and the bottom line is that the deadlocking tab needs to be in the depressed position when the doors in the closed condition. The location of the deadlocking tab is always on the pull side of the door regardless of the swing of the door.
Very well explained, thank you. Just checked both doors on our house and both locks are fitted incorrectly. Five minutes with a chisel and fresh holes and both now OK. Thanks again.
Thank you for explaining what that small sliding pin does. I was installing some new door locks and the strike plate for these locks seemed to small for the whole thing to fit into. It would however fit without that small pin being inside of the strike plate opening. Now I know why...because it's not supposed to fit in the opening. It holds the pin back for safety. Thank you for the explanation. .
I came here because I wanted to clearly understand William deMille's short story Ruthless: "It was his special closet, with a spring lock and in it he kept guns, ammunition, fishing-rods, tackle, and liquor. Not even his wife was allowed to have a key, for Judson Webb loved his personal possessions and felt a sense of deep outrage if they were touched by any hand but his own." What is spring lock, I wanted to know. Watching your video I understand that a spring lock can be opened, and that's what happened in this story. Thank you.
Awesome. That is a great anecdote you have shared and I too enjoy understanding how hardware impacts our everyday lives without even realising it. Rich
Appreciate the education on Deadlatch. We have a door to garage w/a deadlatch that we have used for over 10 years - we simply slam door and it closed - never an issue. All of a sudden the deadlatch is in a LOCK position when door is open and we swing it to close and it bounces off the plate because the deadlatch will not retract. It will retract if we turn the knob - so now we have to turn the knob to close the door - wife says this is unacceptable. Do I need a new door knob / deadlatch or is this repairable ?
Hello ! Regarding Deadlatch locks; when the key locks the deadlatch door lock, is it also locked on the other side as well ? Meaning the lock cannot be unlocked by turning the knob on the inside (ie., the door cannot he opened from the inside) or by twisting a thumb turn button on the inside knob ?
They come in all sorts of different configurations: some require a key to open from the inside, some have a thumbturn, and others are just always unlocked. Due to fire codes I do not believe they make any that just cannot be unlocked from the inside.
Nice video I'm looking for something I haven't seen I want to use a dead latch with my new Yale deadbolt. I saw it done at a gas station that used a deadlatch with a deadbolt I don't know how they did it but I know it's possible any ideas?
i have a old door with a spring 5 inch back set says arrow.. the brand is great i had ppl try to kick door in looks and as old as it is it still opens open great since its been on but id like to change the key so iam guessing i need a whole new knob and everything or is there some thing compatible i looked on amazon and saw many bad reviews for kiwk but not sure ppl only complain
Thank you so much for this, now I know why I can't remove the broken latch, so my front door has this deadlatch type now it's broken, I can't retract the bolt, I removed the nobs and everything. is there no way but cut the bolt from the gap? it's a keikset deadlatch.
If the dead locking tab has been damaged or captured underneath the face of the latch bolt you would not be able to under normal circumstances to press that last whatsoever. You might want to try to see if the dead locking tab can be freed from underneath the latch bolt but if you cannot the only path forward is a replacement latch bolt which of course we can supply you. thank you richard
Thank you for the quick reply, I tried everything, I even looked up their patent to see if I can manually pull the slide, but no luck. and I can't open the door ATM, so I don't know what to do. maybe use reciprocating saw to cut the bolt. :(
Note the dead latch risk and problem. Mine broke, the dead latch separated from the spring latch and kept me from opening the door. Fortunately I was inside the house and also had another door. After some time jiggling the door knob playing with the lock, having no clue what was wrong, the little metal bar fell out. I had no idea what this was but then learned about the dead latch. The better, safer solution is having a separate dead bolt lock. I already had the dead bolt lock and continued to use the spring long minus the dead latch. Imagine if you were inside the house, with one door that would not open, and a fire breaks out. Or are returning home very late at night and the temp is 10 degrees with a blizzard. Just get 2 locks on the door, separate the dead bolt function.
The short answer is no but it would be very helpful to know what locks that you have so that you can order the correct strike plate that is intended to go with it but the short answer is no there is not a difference between the strike plate for a deadlatch versus a spring latch.
I guess I currently have a spring latch. My door knob locks and unlocks with a key, but my brother is actually able to slide a credit card/knife in the door frame and unlock my door. Will a deadlatch prevent this from happening?
Thank you for the question -The proper term is "Loiding" and yes you can certainly loid a deadlatch especially those that have been installed incorrectly.
@@absupplynet thank you for responding to my comment on an old video. I checked out my front door, and to my dismay, the deadlatch part of my door has be broken in half.. luckily I just moved in
You bet - @@keyworksales6241 You bet - please send me photographs of the one that's broken and I'll be happy to review and give you an idea of what you need to order.
Thank you, 6yrs old posting and still usefull. You saved me from trying to make my door unsafe.
Installing a door and this peaked my interest. Glad I found a video that explains it. Thanks.
I'm glad - if there are any other questions that you have please pose them to me.
THANK you! Gosh this information was hard to find on the web...
one of the better dead latch explanations i have heard
Than you and please consider subscribing to our channel - Richard 773-809-3667 x 1112
That was very helpful! Thank you very much. Mine is a keyed installation so now I know I need to replace my failed latch with a deadlatch not a spring latch. BTW, my old deadlatch failed because even when the protective piece was fully extended, you still could not press the latch back. That meant that the only way to close the door was by using the handle. I bet that is a common failure mode now that I've seen your video!
Thank goodness for TH-cam. I always wondered that "D" on the latch was for. And now I also know what it's called. Thanks for the video.
I looked every where for this information, thanks Richard!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is such good information! Thanks. I noticed that mine does not work properly. A card can easily open the door when in locked position. I think that the strike plate is on incorrectly or does belong to the door latch set.I am also wondering if the dead lock plunger could be installed so that it is on the same side as the lock-side of door. Then it would be difficult to get a card or something else to move it as opposed to the other sloped side. This may sound vey confusing - i don't know how to explain it better.
I think you've explained it very accurately and succinctly and the bottom line is that the deadlocking tab needs to be in the depressed position when the doors in the closed condition. The location of the deadlocking tab is always on the pull side of the door regardless of the swing of the door.
Very well explained, thank you. Just checked both doors on our house and both locks are fitted incorrectly. Five minutes with a chisel and fresh holes and both now OK. Thanks again.
God bless you man! Thank you...now I will properly train the service representatives and Lowes and Home Depot!
Thank you for explaining what that small sliding pin does. I was installing some new door locks and the strike plate for these locks seemed to small for the whole thing to fit into. It would however fit without that small pin being inside of the strike plate opening. Now I know why...because it's not supposed to fit in the opening. It holds the pin back for safety. Thank you for the explanation. .
Outstanding explanation! Thanks for making the video.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for explaining & demonstrating the differences Richard 👍🏼
thanks for watching!
I came here because I wanted to clearly understand William deMille's short story Ruthless: "It was his special closet, with a spring lock and in it he kept guns, ammunition, fishing-rods, tackle, and liquor. Not even his wife was allowed to have a key, for Judson Webb loved his personal possessions and felt a sense of deep outrage if they were touched by any hand but his own." What is spring lock, I wanted to know. Watching your video I understand that a spring lock can be opened, and that's what happened in this story. Thank you.
Awesome. That is a great anecdote you have shared and I too enjoy understanding how hardware impacts our everyday lives without even realising it. Rich
Appreciate the education on Deadlatch. We have a door to garage w/a deadlatch that we have used for over 10 years - we simply slam door and it closed - never an issue. All of a sudden the deadlatch is in a LOCK position when door is open and we swing it to close and it bounces off the plate because the deadlatch will not retract. It will retract if we turn the knob - so now we have to turn the knob to close the door - wife says this is unacceptable. Do I need a new door knob / deadlatch or is this repairable ?
Please email me a photograph of the latchbolt and lock for further review. See absupply.net for contact information.
Hello !
Regarding Deadlatch locks; when the key locks the deadlatch door lock, is it also locked on the other side as well ? Meaning the lock cannot be unlocked by turning the knob on the inside (ie., the door cannot he opened from the inside) or by twisting a thumb turn button on the inside knob ?
very important question , i also need the answer for this issue since i face such problem at site !
They come in all sorts of different configurations: some require a key to open from the inside, some have a thumbturn, and others are just always unlocked. Due to fire codes I do not believe they make any that just cannot be unlocked from the inside.
Super clear. Got it! Thanks!
Thank you - Richard 773-809-3667 x 1112
Thanks just what I was looking for
Nice video I'm looking for something I haven't seen I want to use a dead latch with my new Yale deadbolt. I saw it done at a gas station that used a deadlatch with a deadbolt I don't know how they did it but I know it's possible any ideas?
Absolutely - this is the lockset you want to order: absupply.net/schlage-b250pd-night-latch-1056.aspx
i have a old door with a spring 5 inch back set says arrow.. the brand is great i had ppl try to kick door in looks and as old as it is it still opens open great since its been on but id like to change the key so iam guessing i need a whole new knob and everything or is there some thing compatible i looked on amazon and saw many bad reviews for kiwk but not sure ppl only complain
I agree with your final conclusion - but if all you need to do is to change the key we could do the locksmithing services here.
Thank you so much for this, now I know why I can't remove the broken latch, so my front door has this deadlatch type now it's broken, I can't retract the bolt, I removed the nobs and everything. is there no way but cut the bolt from the gap? it's a keikset deadlatch.
If the dead locking tab has been damaged or captured underneath the face of the latch bolt you would not be able to under normal circumstances to press that last whatsoever.
You might want to try to see if the dead locking tab can be freed from underneath the latch bolt but if you cannot the only path forward is a replacement latch bolt which of course we can supply you.
thank you richard
Thank you for the quick reply, I tried everything, I even looked up their patent to see if I can manually pull the slide, but no luck. and I can't open the door ATM, so I don't know what to do. maybe use reciprocating saw to cut the bolt. :(
Another mystery solved! Many thanks.
thanks for watching!
Note the dead latch risk and problem. Mine broke, the dead latch separated from the spring latch and kept me from opening the door. Fortunately I was inside the house and also had another door. After some time jiggling the door knob playing with the lock, having no clue what was wrong, the little metal bar fell out. I had no idea what this was but then learned about the dead latch.
The better, safer solution is having a separate dead bolt lock. I already had the dead bolt lock and continued to use the spring long minus the dead latch. Imagine if you were inside the house, with one door that would not open, and a fire breaks out. Or are returning home very late at night and the temp is 10 degrees with a blizzard.
Just get 2 locks on the door, separate the dead bolt function.
dead bolt don't work if no one is inside
Thank you!
You are welcome - Rich
Do you need a different strike plate for a deadlatch vs a spring latch?
The short answer is no but it would be very helpful to know what locks that you have so that you can order the correct strike plate that is intended to go with it but the short answer is no there is not a difference between the strike plate for a deadlatch versus a spring latch.
Cool, thanks!
Your welcome - Rich
I guess I currently have a spring latch. My door knob locks and unlocks with a key, but my brother is actually able to slide a credit card/knife in the door frame and unlock my door. Will a deadlatch prevent this from happening?
A deadlatch is specifically intended to keep this from happening.
What would be a benefit of spring latch over the deadlatch?
A benefit of a spring latch with that it would allow for proper door lock/set operation when you have it installed with passage and privacy sets.
this was very informative, thank you!
Is it possible to pick a deadlatch? I am upgrading my security, I find it's hard finding good information without looking like criminal sometimes.
Thank you for the question -The proper term is "Loiding" and yes you can certainly loid a deadlatch especially those that have been installed incorrectly.
@@absupplynet thank you for responding to my comment on an old video.
I checked out my front door, and to my dismay, the deadlatch part of my door has be broken in half.. luckily I just moved in
You bet - @@keyworksales6241 You bet - please send me photographs of the one that's broken and I'll be happy to review and give you an idea of what you need to order.
Very helpful thank you!
Thanks for watching!
Good info thanks man. 👍
Thank you - very informative
Nice. Thanks.
no worries! thanks for watching.
Nice know I know why this bolds are in the latches 👍
Everything in hardware serves a purpose - Rich
Thank you
I have that same fan
Thanks.
Glad you liked it!
The Hollow Metal world calls it an ASA strike
Not sure why or what it acronym means.
They don't call it HARDware because it easy.
ASA stands for "American Standards Association" formed out of the 'AESC' in 1928. Explained thoroughly here: www.ansi.org/about/history
OK thanks for the info.