@@ds6872 As compared to...? I'd rather pay $5-$7k *now* for longevity and value compared to everything else in it's category then buy another truck in 3-5 years.
@@Jonathan1969Stingray sorry I have to disagree. And your comments only show your inexperience off road. You will do more damage in 4H due to the stress you cause on the drivetrain. In 4L you would have just dug a hole the tires would just spin. The weak spot in this situation would have been the dirt you were on. Loose dirt on a dry lake very hard to damage drivetrain on.
Yeah, the 4h comment is what really solidified the lack of experience for me. Plus didn’t we just come off the heals of meaningless tug of war tests with the Tesla nonsense? I suppose they just wanted to make a good video.
The equivalent of teaching two senior citizens how to use a smart phone for the first time and then watching them start exploring other phone features.
Working Guy u must not be a car guy,or never worked on vehicles to know how stupid and bad this was for this trucks. More importantly this proved nothing!!
@@gigi9467 I did not claim that it proved anything. Now, I'm only on my 50th or 51st vehicle (not including motorcycles), so perhaps I'm not a car guy - how many have you owned?
Working Guy since i buy them new motorcycles and cars i dont go thru many buckets like you do to have bought 50 vehicles like you claim lol but lets see i have had 10 new ones 3 used 4 new bikes 1 r1 3 harleys that were more expensive than 5 of ur junk cars am sure lol oh and 2 used bikes so do the math. Guess what i worked on all of them no dealers.
" we dont wanna break anything so instead of doing a proper 4low tug of war we'll sit them on the torque converters in 4hi and melt the transmission" 4 LOW LITERALLY PUTS LESS STRESS ON THE DRIVETRAIN IN THIS SCENARIO
It was spinning the wrong side, should’ve been spinning the right rear wheel or the side that has better traction. The wheel in the hole, has the least weight distribution.
This is not Roadkill or dirt everyday...I dont want to watch newbies offroaders doing nothing. You should have put both trucks on rollers and explain crawl control vs 4wd with and without lockers. Showing what are the benefits in real life light offroad. That's what edmunds viewers are looking for. You have the budget, use it wisely.
I've seriously never left a review on you tube, but this one I felt the need too. This video was completely useless and proved nothing. Why even bother posting it
I don't know anything about off-roading, but even I was confused at why they thought they needed rails to get the one tire out of the dirt when the other three tires were firmly planted on the ground.
For anyone who doesn’t have the energy to watch this: Sad music plays as Two newer trucks attempt to do a tug of war. The Jeep’s single wheel digs itself in a hole, The Toyota has a seizure. *the end*
My 06 tacoma was so solid with over 300,000 miles and hardly in the shop. I did oil and brakes and filter and for years would have no maintenance issues. Now enjoying my Tundra.
Jeep pulled the toyota in high with traction still on, now thats impressive, traction off it would have pulled it to the moon, that will upset the toyota owners, probably pull out the fiat card lmao
Edmunds: "We're not running in 4Lo because we don't wanna break anything." 30 Seconds Later: "STOP!! I don't know what's going on but thats not good for the transmissions. The wheels aren't turning at all." 40 Seconds Later: Transitions a burnout into a mechanically dangerous wheelhop. All this test proved is that this group isn't the most mechanically inclined...
Hahahahahahahaha you guys made laugh a lot at the end of the video: "If you think we are completely idiots, all comments are welcome." I don't think you're idiots, however, I would not submit my car to a test like that...
Tug of wars are sooo pointless! It proves what? So many factors are involved. Heavier vehicles win. Lower gearing wins Better tires wins Higher hitch wins Reaction time matters. The most meaningful number probably is the smallest factor. Torque.
Imagine if you had to sit through two ads to watch that. After watching this video i am devoid of all emotion and i feel like i may need to call a crisis hotline. This video was a "rick roll" from edmunds.
Tacoma is nothing but a pretty face. Looks absolutely stunning but with a cramped interior, grabby brakes, narrow bed, and an engine and transmission that work in tandem about as well as a pack of cats and dogs.... I'll pass.
with out 4 low the jeep will have open or unlock diff.it was impressive to drive out with out engageing the lockers. i don't think he knew he had them.
Disappointed! We did this in 86/87. My friend had a Tacoma turbo factory that year, against a Chevy K5 blazer. It was wet and muddy. Bothe we’re pulling and sliding back and forth in unison. It was amazing! Bothe trucks were solid. I believe it was 86/87 not sure when the turbo Tacoma came out.
@@gasolinediesel972 oh you mean the bmw transmission? Lol gald to know people are finally recognizing bmws reliability lol. . Good to know dodge isn't making their own transmissions... they finally realized they cant do it after 100 years lol
@@aaronsanchezz That transmission is great, but you just like to hate everything that isn't Toyota. Lucky for you, Toyota uses that transmission. I agree that Dodge cant make transmissions to save their lives.
@@gasolinediesel972 na man i like bmw.. i was a fan of the new supra as soon as it came out... although yes i do like the old supra better... my moms 10yo bmw has the zf kind transmission before this one... i wasn't reeealy being that sarcastic about bmw reliability.. we have never had any major problems and i fix everything myself. Maybe im just a Chrysler hater, idk, i gotta watch that, my bad
That Tacoma box will fly off the frame if he keep doing it for another seconds, it must be the open c channel frame that Toyota put it in there it flex so it has better wheel articulation. But it worrying to see this happening under certain conditions.
You guys do realize a Rubicon has lockers right? Didn’t even use them and tried it in 2wd instead of 4x4. Do your homework next time unless your goal is clickbait content.
Unfortunately Toyota and fiat Chrysler thought about people doing this and dumbed down the vehicles via electronics and safety devices. You ruined it for all of us.
Toyota’s are known for 3 things 1- Most reliable 2- Stylish 3- good off-road The fact that they regularly go 300, 400, 500, 600, 700 thousand miles with no major issues. Is the sole reason they sell so well.
Why would you get the 2 top versions and then not use them to their full potential. They both should have been in 4 low and the gladiator locked. That was frustrating to watch.
Seriously fire both of your driver's and start over, they test over 300 cars a year and are clueless on things like stall speed, traction control and what 4 low is intended for
In 4 hi, that was torque converter stall. Traction control was off 😅 You guys need to go 4 Low and it would be fun to see them both in auto Crawl mode against eachother
Your best advantage in a dirt tug of war is tires and gearing. I know this from hooking my 2tr to a Cummins lol. Funny how that jeep sank one tire during a one legger! BTW 4 low was problably the key to top off the episode. They're meant to handle abuse at least the tacoma, I cant speak for the jeep.
Which trucks do you want to see in a tug of war?
Please don't repeat this garbage.
None! Lol
None, more like a parking contest.
Toyota Tacoma TRD!!!!!!, Edmunds
@@alliejr its just fun
These guys are completely clueless 🤥
That's what happens when you try to become like top gear in a budget
Yes they are. NO clue
These two are painful to watch.
something wrong with that toyota
@@religionofpeace3244 it's a 3rd gen
I want 6 minutes of my life back...
Seeing the tacoma have a seizure hurt me physically
I was glad.
@@davidn6179 salty boy can't handle Tacomas?
i literally started screaming at my phone
Tacos aren't bad little trucks but they are overpriced and overrated
@@ds6872 As compared to...? I'd rather pay $5-$7k *now* for longevity and value compared to everything else in it's category then buy another truck in 3-5 years.
I feel like you guys should get someone on staff who knows more about wheeling. You both seem nice but you also seem far removed from the activity.
Spot on!
@@ojbarberena7090 we don't want to break anything so were in 4h.. which puts the most stress on trans, converter etc.
@@Jonathan1969Stingray sorry I have to disagree. And your comments only show your inexperience off road.
You will do more damage in 4H due to the stress you cause on the drivetrain. In 4L you would have just dug a hole the tires would just spin. The weak spot in this situation would have been the dirt you were on. Loose dirt on a dry lake very hard to damage drivetrain on.
But I do enjoy you channel.
Yeah, the 4h comment is what really solidified the lack of experience for me. Plus didn’t we just come off the heals of meaningless tug of war tests with the Tesla nonsense? I suppose they just wanted to make a good video.
The equivalent of teaching two senior citizens how to use a smart phone for the first time and then watching them start exploring other phone features.
Those poor transmissions in 4 hi
that was the worst tug of war ive ever seen in my life
Insurance purposes...you know how that is
Its a fake world we're living in
Uh 4 lo would have been the tug-of-war best bet.
Would have been easier on the transmission too
These guys definitely don’t own a truck.. Why wouldn’t they pick asphalt?!
lol thats how you help toyota win
@@sand2sea I don’t know where Toyota became a off-road vehicle but jeep will still be king to me
@@sand2seacap
6 minutes I’ll never get back. Unsubbed.
I thought it was entertaining
Working Guy u must not be a car guy,or never worked on vehicles to know how stupid and bad this was for this trucks. More importantly this proved nothing!!
@@gigi9467 I did not claim that it proved anything. Now, I'm only on my 50th or 51st vehicle (not including motorcycles), so perhaps I'm not a car guy - how many have you owned?
Working Guy since i buy them new motorcycles and cars i dont go thru many buckets like you do to have bought 50 vehicles like you claim lol but lets see i have had 10 new ones 3 used 4 new bikes 1 r1 3 harleys that were more expensive than 5 of ur junk cars am sure lol oh and 2 used bikes so do the math. Guess what i worked on all of them no dealers.
Jesus H Medrano for someone who appears not to like this video, you sure spend a lot of time here..
Ummm maybe on pavement? It provides something called traction?
Alex Vieira Tacoma’s axle hop showed at least it had some traction.
Alan Bowers really u like this? Isnt it stupid as hell bro?
Jesus H Medrano I commented that the Tacoma had axle hop...
Alan Bowers that didnt answer my question but ok.
Jesus H Medrano because your question had nothing to do with my comment.
I can't belives this test was NOT done in 4WD - Low. What was the Point?
Agreed. Should've done 4 low with diff locks enabled to really test the trucks.
John Rehagen I guess there point was to burn up the transmissions.
These two dumba$$es are *NOT* car guys, even car "especialist".
Mostly to be extra douchey of them
You would have been fine in 4Wheel low. All that would have happened is sling dirt and dig holes. Also easier on the transmission.
Well that was a waste of time, no lockers engaged, on sand...
Ler de leon you can’t in 2hi, at least in the Rubicon
@@ihoffland Yes you can, Z Automotive Z-TZR-JLM Tazer , allows it and I use it in 2wd high more than i use 4wd
I cried for those poor 2 trucks. 😥
1:39 “Stop, this can’t be good for the transmission.”
2:45 *Wheel hopping beating the piss out of it*
Do it at 250,000 miles the Jeep won’t be around.
My Jeep is almost at 300,000 miles and I’ll bet my yearly salary I can pull both of these trucks. Hard to beat a 4.0 inline 6.
The crap Tacoma won't either. Its not a 4runner, it won't last.
Toyotas outdated overpriced overrated
At this point it’s not even a Jeep anymore. It’s a fiat, which is known for unreliability.
Fiat no thanks
6 min of my life I'll never get back...a Jeep hater but was impressed at how easily it came out of that crater!
That took about 250,000 miles of the serviceable life of those transmissions!
" we dont wanna break anything so instead of doing a proper 4low tug of war we'll sit them on the torque converters in 4hi and melt the transmission" 4 LOW LITERALLY PUTS LESS STRESS ON THE DRIVETRAIN IN THIS SCENARIO
You guys must be new this whole car / truck thing. 4WD low would have been easier on the whole machine than 4WD Hi. Damn Yuppies.
The guy put his seatbelt on to move 10 feet😂😂😂
It is a good and smart habit.
David you’re right. Very important out in the desert with only one other vehicle around.
It's a habit
You guys failed at one of the stupidest things to do.
Do it again but in 4 low we will learn nothing but it's done right and fun to watch
*Someone's been watching carwow*
I'm glad someone called it out.
Me dude, that 1000% better.
No way I’m wearing a seat belt to do a tug of war. I know, I like to live on the edge.
You need to hold traction control in for a few seconds for it to properly turn off.
Have to love the keyboard hero experts in the comments, lol.
The Jeep just would not give up. It kept searching and searching for grip, and eventually found itself in its own hole.
Kind of like a metaphor for life.
Right where Jeeps belong
@@ryangraham6878 That's right. Because they can get out of any hole.
V8Supercar1 if they work.
It was spinning the wrong side, should’ve been spinning the right rear wheel or the side that has better traction. The wheel in the hole, has the least weight distribution.
Basically the Tacoma couldn’t tow a stuck jeep🤦🏽♂️
Let's take two trucks that aren't made for a tug-o-war......and start a tug-o-war! Brilliant!
Tug of wars prove nothing. Pulling against a stationary object with a weight indicator would show the true pulling power.
Embarrassing. Not one person on that team that tests 300 cars a year understand how it should have been done?
This is not Roadkill or dirt everyday...I dont want to watch newbies offroaders doing nothing. You should have put both trucks on rollers and explain crawl control vs 4wd with and without lockers. Showing what are the benefits in real life light offroad. That's what edmunds viewers are looking for. You have the budget, use it wisely.
I've seriously never left a review on you tube, but this one I felt the need too. This video was completely useless and proved nothing. Why even bother posting it
O - MY
Please bring Elana back....
Fakest laugh ever lol
Put real enthusiasts behind the wheel next time. Clueless about the advantages of a Rubi and TRD
I don't know anything about off-roading, but even I was confused at why they thought they needed rails to get the one tire out of the dirt when the other three tires were firmly planted on the ground.
At least you guys aren't biased like TFL is
1:16 I just saved y’all a minute :)
That keep just lifted right out of the hole. Amazing
I'll take the Gladiator.
Both are excellent, can't go wrong with either one! Jeep/Toyota! Co-kings of overlanding!
Finally a good comment.
Everybody taking sides like they willing to die for a brand 😂
That jeep got out of the hole like “hold my beer” 😆
Wow I’ve never seen a Tacoma twerk before. 😂 2:43
Trying so hard to grab
Jajajajajajaj 😂
For anyone who doesn’t have the energy to watch this:
Sad music plays as
Two newer trucks attempt to do a tug of war. The Jeep’s single wheel digs itself in a hole,
The Toyota has a seizure. *the end*
America is back baby!🇺🇸
My 06 tacoma was so solid with over 300,000 miles and hardly in the shop. I did oil and brakes and filter and for years would have no maintenance issues. Now enjoying my Tundra.
You sell it or trade it in?
Jeep pulled the toyota in high with traction still on, now thats impressive, traction off it would have pulled it to the moon, that will upset the toyota owners, probably pull out the fiat card lmao
Can’t believe I watched this entire video
Craigslist add is going to read like perfect condition truck definitely never tugOwared
Nice how the Fiat, I mean the Jeep dug a hole for itself to be in. Exactly where it belongs. LMAO
🤣🤣 her is your like young man🤣🤣🤣good one
Both trucks won't give up till broken. Buy any of these two fearlessly. ☝️😎
Who cares about "fair" they both showed up to compete! May the meanest, strongest truck win!
Tug of war is not on my mind when buying a vehicle , reliability is period!! and Toyota kicks ass in that department.
Edmunds: "We're not running in 4Lo because we don't wanna break anything."
30 Seconds Later: "STOP!! I don't know what's going on but thats not good for the transmissions. The wheels aren't turning at all."
40 Seconds Later: Transitions a burnout into a mechanically dangerous wheelhop.
All this test proved is that this group isn't the most mechanically inclined...
I'd love to see a Prius vs a Leaf do this!
I'd like to see your mom and sister do this!!!😂😂😂
Hahahahahahahaha you guys made laugh a lot at the end of the video: "If you think we are completely idiots, all comments are welcome." I don't think you're idiots, however, I would not submit my car to a test like that...
Tug of wars are sooo pointless! It proves what? So many factors are involved.
Heavier vehicles win.
Lower gearing wins
Better tires wins
Higher hitch wins
Reaction time matters.
The most meaningful number probably is the smallest factor. Torque.
I am grateful I was doing something else while listening and watching this video, if not, I would've felt so bad wasting 6min of my life watching it.
Imagine if you had to sit through two ads to watch that. After watching this video i am devoid of all emotion and i feel like i may need to call a crisis hotline. This video was a "rick roll" from edmunds.
Which is the best 4wd
Tie goes to the cooler truck. Gladiator wins.
Tacoma is nothing but a pretty face. Looks absolutely stunning but with a cramped interior, grabby brakes, narrow bed, and an engine and transmission that work in tandem about as well as a pack of cats and dogs.... I'll pass.
You guys should look up what a diff locker is and when to use it. 😭 Wow this test is so bad it hurts.
Not really a test to prove capability lol..I guess the Gladiator won the digging contest
Gay 1 wheel spen
When the Tacoma started shaking, it shows you the shoddy quality of Toyota.....but you Scotty Kilmer clones I'm sure will disagree.
See the white smoke come from the Jeep…must be a blown head gasket
6:08 Yep
Do a tug on asphalt so both trucks has grips. That way you will find out which truck does better than the other
with out 4 low the jeep will have open or unlock diff.it was impressive to drive out with out engageing the lockers. i don't think he knew he had them.
That they make some fine off road automobiles these days!!
That they’re pretty much equal and you should treat them with more respect!!
Lol. Ow you know why they selected a Ridgeline as their top mid size truck, they don’t even know how to do a tug of war
Apparently the Ridgeline won due to it having the most USB ports
I just picked up an 06 Ridgeline. I may never switch back!
Disappointed! We did this in 86/87. My friend had a Tacoma turbo factory that year, against a Chevy K5 blazer. It was wet and muddy. Bothe we’re pulling and sliding back and forth in unison. It was amazing! Bothe trucks were solid. I believe it was 86/87 not sure when the turbo Tacoma came out.
Damn that tacoma almost exploded off the wheels
Well one thing everyone needs to take into consideration is the new transmission needed for the jeep in 6 years.
Weigh that against tacomas ball joints, head gaskets, high oil consumprtuon and transmissions that don't shift properly after 100k miles
Gladiator uses the ZF 8 speed. Toyota has used that transmission before in other vehicles. Nice try though.
@@gasolinediesel972 oh you mean the bmw transmission? Lol gald to know people are finally recognizing bmws reliability lol. . Good to know dodge isn't making their own transmissions... they finally realized they cant do it after 100 years lol
@@aaronsanchezz That transmission is great, but you just like to hate everything that isn't Toyota. Lucky for you, Toyota uses that transmission. I agree that Dodge cant make transmissions to save their lives.
@@gasolinediesel972 na man i like bmw.. i was a fan of the new supra as soon as it came out... although yes i do like the old supra better... my moms 10yo bmw has the zf kind transmission before this one... i wasn't reeealy being that sarcastic about bmw reliability.. we have never had any major problems and i fix everything myself. Maybe im just a Chrysler hater, idk, i gotta watch that, my bad
The jeep had better low end torq when they started to pull in 4hi. Moved the toyota maybe 2 feet until it started making power.
Has a v8
@@CaptainFALKEN no it doesn’t
That Tacoma box will fly off the frame if he keep doing it for another seconds, it must be the open c channel frame that Toyota put it in there it flex so it has better wheel articulation. But it worrying to see this happening under certain conditions.
Yep, that 2 seconds of video would keep me from buying one. Just terrible.
What made you think that would work in 4 High? Bit of mechanical sympathy wouldn’t go astray. Idiots. Also unsubscribed. I’d probably take this down.
You guys do realize a Rubicon has lockers right? Didn’t even use them and tried it in 2wd instead of 4x4. Do your homework next time unless your goal is clickbait content.
It was fun watching EXACTLY what I thought would happen, happen.
What did we learn? We learned that a radio works in a pinch if you don't have a sledge hammer.
4low in the dirt is better than doing it in an Arby's parking lot... You guys clearly are not experts with off road vehicles.
Agree. Tug of war is waste of time but makes good comedy break.
Unfortunately Toyota and fiat Chrysler thought about people doing this and dumbed down the vehicles via electronics and safety devices. You ruined it for all of us.
You could say he “dug himself into a hole”
I see tug of war, I press like....
You guys messed up the names in the thumbnail
The Tacoma looks tough and the Jeep looks like the Italians trying to make an American truck and gave it a toupee for good measure.
Nothing was happening until the Tacoma decided it wanted to do the Lambada and the Gladiator wanted to dig itself a hole to hide in embarrassment.
That was embarrassing... I'm surprised the manufacturers didn't sue Edmunds for grossly misrepresenting their vehicles.
Geez. Put the gladiator in 4 low and lock the diffs... Toyota is a cute toy. Figure it out.
Toyota’s are known for 3 things
1- Most reliable
2- Stylish
3- good off-road
The fact that they regularly go 300, 400, 500, 600, 700 thousand miles with no major issues. Is the sole reason they sell so well.
Why would you get the 2 top versions and then not use them to their full potential. They both should have been in 4 low and the gladiator locked. That was frustrating to watch.
Who are the physics wizards that put this competition on Sand together? Absolute waste of time.
I can see the Tacoma's frame starting to rust already.
Seriously fire both of your driver's and start over, they test over 300 cars a year and are clueless on things like stall speed, traction control and what 4 low is intended for
In 4 hi, that was torque converter stall.
Traction control was off 😅
You guys need to go 4 Low and it would be fun to see them both in auto Crawl mode against eachother
Did you guys lock the diff?
No low range and differential Locks,…?
2:43 This probably bothered me more than it should...
Your best advantage in a dirt tug of war is tires and gearing. I know this from hooking my 2tr to a Cummins lol. Funny how that jeep sank one tire during a one legger! BTW 4 low was problably the key to top off the episode. They're meant to handle abuse at least the tacoma, I cant speak for the jeep.