Installing Enphase Consumption Monitoring CTs - Monitoring Your Home Electricity Usage

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  • @rajmohanvm3800
    @rajmohanvm3800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Beautiful explanation.
    Hi, I am from India, I am presently setting up a 3 phase system with enphase envoy.

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is awesome. I hope my video helped you out.

  • @GurdeepSingh-bu6ee
    @GurdeepSingh-bu6ee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the nice video. I have similar combiner box Enphase IQ combiner 3-ES and in process of installing it. Does this has Wi-Fi connection.. capability to connect with my phone via router... Please educate me. Thanks and regards.

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. This does use Wi-Fi to communicate to the internet. You then use your phone or computer to check the Enlighten app to check its status. It sends data out about every 15 minutes, so it is not real time but it's fine for checking in on things. I also occasionally use the Enphase Toolkit app to log into it over Wi-Fi and see real time stats. Thanks for watching.

  • @christianolsen1256
    @christianolsen1256 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I'm not mistaking, the CTs in the video, near the end, are installed to get the Utility's current contributions. If one needs the whole-house consumption, one would likely need to install the CTs right above the splice. That's 3 current branches, and the CTs would go to the only unmonitored branch.

    • @AgentOffice
      @AgentOffice ปีที่แล้ว

      It already knows by adding import+solar

  • @AzharKhan-qz2vo
    @AzharKhan-qz2vo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very helpful! Thank you for making this

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm glad it helped. Thank you for watching.

  • @ajphillipsjeeps
    @ajphillipsjeeps 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the video, I am very comfortable with electrical and this just made it so much easier to know what to expect and get it done,

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are very welcome. It is a bit confusing at first, but it starts to make sense after a while. Took about a dozen reads through the directions before it sunk in. Thanks for watching.

    • @ajphillipsjeeps
      @ajphillipsjeeps 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TechMotoring yea, watched your video at 3 times during the instruction manual read and looking back at the panel just to make sure not to do anything wrong. Had a wierd issue where the micro inverters showed an error for low voltage and high, but after calling enphase, it will clear after 24 hours and they conformed system is working as expected. Thanks again cause o always love watching something before I do it if I have never tried that exact thing.

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My first time through I installed the CTs backwards. It threw the error that you can't clear. I had to wait 24 hours also. A similar issue to you maybe. I'm glad the video helped you out. Nothing beats video instructions.

  • @philipcain3838
    @philipcain3838 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the great video , my system was set up in my main breaker by adding and wiring the Enphase Envoy System to its own 120V breaker. How do I proceed to attach the consumption monitors CTs to the large power cables coming into the main 220v breaker or do I so how connect the CTs to the 14 gauge wire that was ran to the 120v breaker for the system?

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I appreciate the comment. You will want to connect the CTs to the larger wires that come in from the grid. This way the CTs will read all electricity flow in and out of your breaker box. Just make sure you are very careful around those wires as it can be dangerous.

    • @philipcain3838
      @philipcain3838 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TechMotoring will it matter which wire from the grid that I attach the CT to that I mark with tape as CT#1?

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      For consumption monitoring to work correctly, you must meet
      the following installation requirements:
      • Attach the consumption CT installed on terminal IA
      (line 1) to the same line as power terminal A of the
      Envoy-S. Verify with a voltmeter.
      • Make sure that the arrow on the consumption CT faces toward the loads.
      • Wire the consumption CTs with the white wire installed on the upper row of wiring terminals and the
      blue wire installed on the lower row of wiring terminals.
      • Do not use the Envoy-S terminal block on the right side.
      NOTE: You must install the CT wired to terminal IA on the same line as the Envoy-S power terminal A.
      This is what I found in the instructions. Line 1 plugs into the IA terminal which has to be the same side of the electrical panel as the power terminal wires from the Envoy. Give that a shot and see. If you get weird results you can always switch the wires on the IA and IB terminals to verify.

  • @jayraman
    @jayraman ปีที่แล้ว

    My main panel is in the 2nd floor of the house while the solar cut off panel is outside the house. Do I have to run the blue wire from upstairs or is there any other work around?

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  ปีที่แล้ว

      The CTs have to go on the main wires coming into your house. Assuming you can't get to those wires anywhere before your panel, then they would have to go at your panel. Though it is not sounding like that will work for you. You can contact Enphase directly and see if they have any suggestions for you.

  • @dr.projectx5142
    @dr.projectx5142 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are you going to add your own power wall to this enphase system and buy some 1q8+ micro inverters? And use the server rack batteries that are 5kwhrs with the micro inverters and just add 3 units to your system.

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am planning on doing a battery system soon. I do like the modular systems where you can add more batteries as you go. I haven't decided which company I want to go with, but I may decide later this year. Thanks for watching.

  • @stevebryning3987
    @stevebryning3987 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can the CTs go on the pg&e power lines that come up from the street into the house. PG&E came to change the smart meter, saw the CTs and took them off the main power lines, don’t know what to do thanks 👍

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would contact Enphase about that. I'm not sure if that will work as intended.

  • @prasanthp688
    @prasanthp688 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    First of all, hats off to your wonderful effort to produce this explainer. Am not sure if you had the following message while opening the installer app. When I tried to open the installer app, it says that I am a homeowner and I need to install the Enphase Enlighten app instead which I already have. It also said if i am an installer, either create a new account or request the company to provide access. Any thoughts?

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for the compliment. When it comes to configuring the CTs, download the Installer Toolkit app (Gray Icon) and use that instead. They released an updated app (Orange Icon) that limits what you can do. As long as your Envoy and phone are on the same network you should be able to see it and configure it.

  • @esantone0398
    @esantone0398 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    my panels were producing well and my electric bill was very low but something happened the past two months where my electric bill shot all the way up to $300. In the midst to figure out why I was told to install a consumption meter. I do have enphase. So will this consumption meter be able to differentiate against the digital meter outside if the meter is malfunctioning? thanks

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The consumption CTs are installed between your home breaker panel and the meter, so in theory you should be able to compare your electricity bill and your consumption in the Enphase app. It won't be 100% accurate. Probably around a 5% difference is what you should see. If you have a huge disparity after a month or so you may want to investigate further. Hope that helps.

    • @esantone0398
      @esantone0398 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TechMotoring Yes it has been super stressful. My bill without solar was much cheaper so something is very off. the solar company so far found out the combination panel is faulty and needs replacement but that shouldn’t be why the electrical bill was so high!? Hopefully the consumption meter will at least rule out burning excess kilowatts in my house. thanks

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Best of luck, and update us when you get it figured out.

    • @esantone0398
      @esantone0398 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TechMotoring the solar company came out and replaced the malfunctioning enphase gateway/envoy. I am now noticing the digital meter is no longer spinning excess energy and its been pretty stable. I have no idea what happened but I assume bad wiring or malfunctioning causing it to drain energy. The solar company installed the enphase consumption meter but of course its giving faulty readings so they have to come back out. the solar company isn’t admitting the correlation between the RMA and the high energy bill but if it continues again i will be well aware.

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's good that you have some resolution to your issue. Hopefully they will get those CTs fixed for you and you can start seeing your data accurately. Thanks for the update.

  • @gwyffels
    @gwyffels ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video. Very informative. I have one question. The CT's measure the current going into your main panel from the grid but your power from the solar panels are going directly in the the main panel. Does the power from the solar panels still get measured somehow through the CTs even if they are after the CTs? Thanks

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My Enphase unit that is attached to the outside of my house has a Production CT which measures the current production of solar. That came with the solar system itself. These Consumption CTs measure the flow of electricity in and out of the house. It logically calculates how much is being used based on all of the CTs. Give or take a few percent for accuracy. Great question. Thanks for watching.

    • @gwyffels
      @gwyffels ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TechMotoring Thanks. I thought the consumption CTs only measured current in one direction (into the panel).

  • @dankudlicki6690
    @dankudlicki6690 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a problem with my CT readings after installing a backup generator, the consumption mirrors the solar production but at a lower rate even when consumption is steady?

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is really weird. I am not sure what would cause that after adding a generator. I would call Enphase and see if they have any suggestions for this. Maybe the CTs have to be moved now that there is another power source?

  • @kristianmurillejo
    @kristianmurillejo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why did you point the ct into the box and not toward the grid?

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As per the instructions:
      Consumption CTs The arrows must point toward the load - away
      from the grid.

  • @thinhkieu3203
    @thinhkieu3203 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question please: about the two CTs that are clamped to the two incoming power lines: does it matter which power line does each CT clamped to? I read something about Line 1 but quite understand about it. Thank you.

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      For consumption monitoring to work correctly, you must meet
      the following installation requirements:
      • Attach the consumption CT installed on terminal IA
      (line 1) to the same line as power terminal A of the
      Envoy-S. Verify with a voltmeter.
      • Make sure that the arrow on the consumption CT faces toward the loads.
      • Wire the consumption CTs with the white wire installed on the upper row of wiring terminals and the
      blue wire installed on the lower row of wiring terminals.
      • Do not use the Envoy-S terminal block on the right side.
      NOTE: You must install the CT wired to terminal IA on the same line as the Envoy-S power terminal A.
      This is what I found in the instructions. Line 1 plugs into the IA terminal which has to be the same side of the electrical panel as the power terminal wires from the Envoy. Give that a shot and see. If you get weird results you can always switch the wires on the IA and IB terminals to verify.

    • @thinhkieu3203
      @thinhkieu3203 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TechMotoring The power lines coming to my house/electrical service panel comprises of three wires and one of them is the neutral wire with a stripe on the insulation. The other two are 120V hot wires with same black insulation where I attached the two CTs to (with the arrows points to the load not the grid). Question: how do I determine which one is Line 1?

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Line 1 is determined by which side of the panel the power terminal A from the Envoy is going to. You will have to follow that wire from your Envoy to your panel and see what side it is on. That is Line 1.

  • @zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz8635
    @zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz8635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My installer is reporting that there are issues with the Enphase monitoring function and is recommending that I purchase a Sense Solar system. I'm not excited about spending $350 when two CT monitors from Enphase only cost $60. Have you had any issues with the monitoring?

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely no problems since I have installed them. The integration in the Enphase app is awesome. Being able to see production and consumption side by side is very helpful. Thanks for watching.

  • @MrDjBorikua
    @MrDjBorikua 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video and I have a question, I saw on ur app there was an error like I have also...There is an issue with your envoy meter...how do I fix this issue.

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That error was caused when I installed the CTs backwards. I had the arrows pointing the wrong way. That's why I make a point to highlight that in the video. It's not hard to make the mistake. Also, that error will stay for 24 hours to make sure there are not any other problems. There is no way to reset that message as far as I know. Thanks for watching.

    • @MrDjBorikua
      @MrDjBorikua 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TechMotoring Thanks

  • @User33134
    @User33134 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How did you login to the toolkit app? Enphase says I have to be a professional installer to have access to the app.

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I am using the older version of the app. It's a gray icon, version 2.2.8. When you open it, tap on "connect to envoy." As long as you are on the same WiFi as your Envoy it should show up. If that doesn't work you can access a bunch of the settings through the enlighten manager web login.

    • @User33134
      @User33134 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TechMotoring thanks I will try the older app. I first need to connect to my wifi. I have the cellular module. The enlighten manager you are talking about. Is that the upgraded access that you have to pay monthly or the one Time fee?

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can find instructions on how to connect the Envoy to WIFI. It's a pretty easy task. Since my solar and Envoy were set up by a company I did not have to pay for the Manager (Most likely in my cost of the install), however I do have access to it. It looks like you can do the monthly or the one time fee. That would be your choice based on your needs. They give you the same access.

    • @InspectorApe
      @InspectorApe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It works if you connect to wifi on device, click on gray app toolkit. Connect to a enphase,
      Locate your envoy IP TYPE IT IN And CONNECT
      Parts are 47.00 for both CT

    • @User33134
      @User33134 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@InspectorApe yeah after I bought the ct. I found out I have no room to clamp the ct on my box.

  • @sethiashish1
    @sethiashish1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for creating this great video, very helpful and easy to understand. Qq- do I’ve to put the consumption CTs in the main electrical panel or can I put them into the solar cut off panel (wires run from cut of panel to the main panel and hook up to the incoming wires from the grid, where you have put the CTs) next to the enphase combiner box. This would save me a ton of time by not having to run CT wires to main panel. Thanks!

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They have to be in the main panel. They will not get an accurate reading if they are in the sub panel. Thanks for watching and the comment.

  • @josesantiago8723
    @josesantiago8723 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, I downloaded the installer app toolkit but not able to login because I am the homeowner. How you did it?

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You have to download the Installer Toolkit with the gray icon. The newer one (orange icon) requires a login that most homeowners do not have access to.

    • @ronhayes2149
      @ronhayes2149 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I downloaded the older(grey) installer toolkit but it won’t allow me to login with my Enphase credentials. Any suggestions?

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is no login. When you open it up click on Connect To An Envoy. Make sure you are on the same WiFi network as your Envoy and it should pop up in the list.

    • @shawnterry9709
      @shawnterry9709 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ronhayes2149 I had the same message, but I tried it again and it worked without asking for any credentials.

  • @krishnak5825
    @krishnak5825 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are these Heavy duty CT's? my installer said my system needs heavy duty and charged me more. When I searched on enphase these cost $52.00. Also, I feel my installer did something wrong, as I don't see any excess production going to grid. Consumption that shows on my enphase is way too higher than my Sense monitor.

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not sure what a heavy duty CT is. These are the ones that Enphase offers that matched my system. It almost sounds like they were installed backwards which can wildly skew the results you see.

    • @krishnak5825
      @krishnak5825 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TechMotoringThe technician has a Admin version of enphase app and he said if the reading is positive then the installation is correct, otherwise wrong. Since I am not the expert I let him do what he is supposed to do.

  • @navyretired230
    @navyretired230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome most informative video. I will hook up my Consumption meter this weekend. Can you send a close up pic the envoy blue and withe connections please? It just helps me with my confidence. I bought two meter brand new off ebay for $20 each. ALSO, do I set my toolkit to "NET" ???

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the compliment. I'll see what I can do about getting a better picture of the wires on the envoy system. In the mean time take a look at one of the other comments where I answer Net vs Total. Thanks for watching.

  • @robertgreen8106
    @robertgreen8106 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have this same system on my house i want to add a batery back up can you give us a class

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't have a battery backup system yet. I am hoping to install one in the future. When I do, I will absolutely make a video about it.

    • @robertgreen8106
      @robertgreen8106 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TechMotoring thanks

  • @emorrot9938
    @emorrot9938 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Overall how hard is this to install? My installer is asking $800 to install this $50 product.

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not bad as long as you have easy access to everything and aren't afraid of live power. Mine was pretty easy considering where everything was located. I would recommend reading the instructions a bunch of times until you are comfortable with the whole install.

    • @emorrot9938
      @emorrot9938 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TechMotoring thank you. My uncle is a master electrician and is going to help lol

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's awesome. Thanks for watching.

  • @TheJsmith1983
    @TheJsmith1983 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are your consumption meters set to Net or Total?

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had to go back and read about it since I couldn't remember. With how mine are set up with my solar I have it on total. This is what I was reading in the instructions.
      "If the solar circuit is not passed through the consumption CTs, the Envoy-S consumption metering
      setting must be set to Total rather than Net."

  • @baopingzhao
    @baopingzhao 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thx for putting up this useful video!

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I appreciate the comment. Thanks for watching.

  • @baine5.7
    @baine5.7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would think for 40 k cost of solar panels and installation those two 50 dollar items would be installed.

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly! I even asked about getting these installed and I was given the cold shoulder on it. Which is why I ended up just doing it myself.

    • @gemargordon6885
      @gemargordon6885 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now does this void your warranty with your installer doing it yourself ?

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I highly doubt it. I didn't have to change anything that was already there. I just added these two small pieces. I could be wrong, but thankfully I haven't needed any warranty service since install.

  • @jonphanspromotions
    @jonphanspromotions 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have to call Enphase to access the took kit? Well done by the way. I plan to do it myself and kind of hesitant about it. Was it easy?

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can download the tool kit app. Just make sure to download the older version. I reference that in some of the other comments. Just make sure to take your time and read the instructions clearly and multiple times. Above all else just be careful. Electricity is no joke. Overall it wasn't all that difficult, but that all depends on how your system is set up. Good luck and thanks for watching.

  • @DavidCooper-dm9cz
    @DavidCooper-dm9cz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does it cost to have someone install it?

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not sure. Maybe a couple hundred dollars depending on who is installing it. Electricians are not cheap.

  • @theantiqueactionfigure
    @theantiqueactionfigure 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great information but son but we need to get the drywall finished up, Lol!

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol. Oh how true that is. Thanks for watching.

    • @theantiqueactionfigure
      @theantiqueactionfigure 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TechMotoring you should see mine, 1924 block with the original plaster cracking off, Haha!

    • @theantiqueactionfigure
      @theantiqueactionfigure 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TechMotoring just received this monitoring kit today. Reviewing your video and trying to calculate how many beers it will take, Haha!

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is awesome! I recommend keeping the beers to a minimum during install and celebrating afterwards. Have fun.

  • @AgentOffice
    @AgentOffice ปีที่แล้ว

    Fun

  • @timhucks2344
    @timhucks2344 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Think you just voided your warranty.

  • @carlbrown5150
    @carlbrown5150 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Next a solar consumption tax.!!

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow! That would be awful. Let's hope it never comes to that. Thanks for watching.

  • @KinGIIRomE
    @KinGIIRomE 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why the hell did they use pvc? These installers or the company they work for are idiots. Emt should be used for weatherproofing and for anything else Mother Nature gives to us. This job is not batched but it’s definitely not top-tier. Lazy work smh

    • @TechMotoring
      @TechMotoring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow. Thank you for pointing that out. I wasn't aware of that. I may have to reach out to them about this. Thanks for watching.

  • @TechMotoring
    @TechMotoring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Take a look at this product on Amazon:
    Enphase EN-CT-200-SPLIT
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