I Tried Vacuum-Modding my Old LEGO Briggs & Stratton Engine.....
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 มิ.ย. 2024
- @biglonely3999 here you go! Today I'm attempting to make my old LEGO Briggs & Stratton engine run off a vacuum!
Can I do it? Watch and find out!
If you modify this and make a video on it, tag me! I want to see if you can and how you do it!
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the main issue with this engine the fact that you had the vacuum conected to both valves...
That was only one configuration. I'll probably make one of the valves let air back in
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO trust me it will run much faster
Lego vacuum engines can’t run of one valve like this. That’s why it wasn’t running. Had you kept two valves it would have ran fine
@@legoenginemechanic101 Yeah I think he chose to try it like this because he liked having the 1:2 gear ratio from crankshaft to camshaft and not having to run valvesprings. Could be wrong, but that's my guess.
So when the piston gets sucked upwards, the other valve is still sucking it upwards. Not pushing down or something, so it forces the piston to remain in the upward stroke. Am I right?
To my understanding you need a exhaust valve, so that the vaccum can suck in air so the vaccum cleaner has something to suck on. Also i found to have the best result with vaccum engines that instead of taking those plates as valves you need to use the tires from the Speed Champions cars because of the rubber, the valve has a better seal.
You don't "need" one, but it helps a ton to have one. I'll keep the tire in mind
@@DeltonAdamsLEGOin you do an exhaust its run 1000x Better behaus you valve Open When the Pistolen go down and this Breaks the Pistons
@@DeltonAdamsLEGOi mean you Need an intakte and exhaust and on the exhaust ist the Vakuumcleaner
@@finniboy9670 You sound German. Not like it's a bad thing, but you do.
@@finniboy9670 yea
The engine couldn’t run because you don’t have an exhaust/intake value… the flywheel is not a problem. Also adding lubricant will make it smooth and run much better.
5:30 it’s took me a while to build good vacuum engines but please don’t just give up.
Always start off simple when building vacuum engines so you can get a better understanding of how they work and stuff.
Yeah, I'll need to add an exhaust valve. But I'm not going to lubricate it just yet...
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO yeah no worries on the lubricant. I can understand when it’s not such a big deal
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO just go back to the original divided valves.
Graphite powder would be a good lubricant
Dude this is so sick! Wish this was a kit! Well done!
Missed name opportunity: 'Bricks n Stratton'
That is a good name lol
tysm for including me in the video!
with the original valve ports it would have ran better as you generally should have an exhaust valve. (or piston that has holes so the engine gets air from somewhere)
Yeah, I was going to maybe try again but with an exhaust
Well done 👏
This is really cool, but as a somewhat experienced vacuum engine builder, i should tell u that a 6x6 piston is quite inefficient since a larger volume of air has to be sucked in by the vacuum then in a 4x4 piston. Also having 2 valves technically doesnt reduce efficiency but your valve design isnt the best because the valves dont let the piston go down freely enough cause of the way they are designed. Hope this helped lol
Try changing to a 4x4 piston first before/if ur going/not going to redesign the valves
The only problem with reducing the piston size it it requires an entire cylinder rebuild, which kinda defeats the whole purpose of the project.but I guess you've gotta sacrifice something somewhere...
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO i understand what you mean. If you dont want to change the piston size you can still try redesign the valves to have an exhaust stage in the rotation sequence.
@@LemonJuice_ yeah I think if I do this again, I'll include an exhaust
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO cant wait to see it!
Awesome! I feel like major improvements can be done though
Absolutely! I might try to get it to run better in the future
indeed
agreed, also hi lmao
@@TwistedEngineering you should join his server
awesome ! you could try a different flywheel like a ligth and at the same time heavy but keep working you're doing great vids👍
gotta love it
Hi, Not long ago I tried using this model as a base starting point for a vacuum engine. I found that you need to have 1:1 crank to cam ratio and also an exhaust valve. Also you should use a little bit of olive oil on the cylinder walls and valve seats to lubricate and seal components.
Yes and also lower the head
well. thats a 4 stroke, it is possible, but it produces less power than 2 stroke and it is harder to get to run good.
I've had a lot of people tell me to use a 1:1 ratio, but I wanted to make a s little modifications as possible. I also don't like the idea of lubrication, as I said in the video
Also, it is a 2 stroke. Every time the cylinder rises, a valve is opened
@@DeltonAdamsLEGOas little mods as possible is what's limiting u from max efficiency
@@ThomasthetankengineE2 if that's the case, so be it. I'd rather have something that doesn't work very well than something completely different that what I started with. The whole point of the project was to see how little mods I could make to get it to run
Ayyyy I’ve been wanting this to happen
that's a pretty cool design, I also made something similar, well similar to vacuum powering a lego engine, except mine was based on a steam locomotive piston, like where you have the valve that goes back and forth switching from one side to the other, it worked quite well, sadly it had no way to reverse the direction.
You probably should make a rotary vacuum engine,they spin very fast and are compact,also you don't need a flywheel. You could gear it down as well.
Yeah, but I think sealing it would be hard for me
Nice bro
To improve this alot first make sure both ports aren’t connected, you could also just do a 1:1 gear ratio from the crank to valves, lastly seal the valves off from the crank and make try to make a spring set up for the valves
YES FINALLY!
instead of using the 2 by 2 tiles as intake and exhaust valves, use a piece like Lego piece 2723 and it will work better. Also idk if this will work but Lego tires may fit on the disk thing.
You should call it the bricks and Stratton
Instead of the tiles try the black round technic disc thingies that nobody knows the name of that are commonly used for LVE poppet valves. And it will run better as a "2 stroke" with 1:1 gearing for the camshaft but who knows, maybe it will work as a 4 stroke (with the cams offset 90° and both intake and exaust happening every other rotation.)
Pretty cool the one idea I had was plumbers tape for the air leaks it should be thin enough that it doesn’t affect the Legos and would definitely help create a seal and without damaging the Legos that’s a bonus keep up the hard work👍
That's not a bad idea!
Try making one of the valves putting in fresh atmosphere to not starve the cylinder of air, and try and counter balance the piston. You'll notice when it runs, it speeds up when the piston goes down and slows down when the piston raises
Yeah, I probably will if I come back to this
it is possible I KNEW IT goooooooooooooood job btw
the problem is you need to have one of the valves for air and it might need to be quite big considering the size of the piston
i don't know if you made this modification but you need one of the valves to let the air back in to the engine
I had thought of doing that, but I wanted to try the original way first. If I work on this again, I'll probably do that
Nice
maybe a tip you use 2 tires mayve you could use 4 instead of 2 i think it will work better
We need to seeca Ali express karge super chelarger works?
Can it be super cgarged with for stage.😅
Funny thing I have one of those motors
usually when pp convert briggs to steam they add another lope on the cam or change the ration of the cam to 1:1 to your intake valve open when your piston go down and exhaust open when it go up , vacuum engine are reverse steam engine, so either change the ratio or the cam lope to be 180 deg so like you have to piece for one lope just turn one off them 180 deg on each lope and but you vacuum on the exhaust side
I plan on it. I'll see how it goes
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO th-cam.com/video/7TeDwAd3al8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=sMXaM3w33g7fffud
Do more
You had 2:1 gear ratio with cam lobes 180 degrees apart and intake connected to the exhaust. You need to have 1:1 gear ratio and make independent channels for valves :)
Yep! I'm working on that now!
but why did you combine the input with the output? that just sounds like ur removing the entire point of the valves?
I was converting it from a 4 stroke to a 2 stroke
nice lol
I would recommend making bigger valves and instead of using bricks for the cylinder walls, use Lego walls (1x6) plus lubricantion is highly recommended
I wanted to try to make this run with as little modifications as possible. I couldn't changed a whole bunch of things, but that would kinda defeat the whole idea of the project
I don’t really think he needs to change the valves.
What vacuum are you using? It sounds like a jet engine!
It's a rainbow vacuum that we've had for years
It's running backwards!
That's impressive bro!
Backwards, forwards, as long as it's running!
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO I had to say something lol I love the old Briggs flatheads. I have two 2 HP, a 5 HP, an 8 HP, and my lawnmower has a twin cylinder flathead (17 horse?) To see them in bodied via Legos, is the coolest!
@@Hillbillypunk that's cool! I'm glad you liked it!
is that a rainbow vacuum? mine sounds just like that one lol
😂 Yeah it is!
Is the vacuum strong enough? I think the engine has too much displacement in the cylinder.
It's pretty strong. And yeah, I think the valves might be a bit small for the size of the cylinder
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO Still a good job though
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO they good size
No i don't think so because i built a vaccum engine with a displacement at the crankshaft of 4 technic holes and the piston is 5x6 stud. I also built one with a displacement at the crankshaft of 4 technic holes, but with a piston of 8x8 studs and this one is a 2 cylinder
@@DeppadaimDienst You're lucky to have all the legos, let alone in the same color if it is!
I built that engine with out any instructions but better.
Good for you!
Thanks
the problem is that you connected both valves, this engine is basicaly working like normal engine but it is powered by exhaust(vacuum) but as soon as you dont have any air intake engine needs to take air by itself, this is why it doesnt work right
Not all vacuum engines need exhaust valves. I was trying to see if I could get It to run without one.
Bricks and Stratton
Damn. You beat me to it
WOW THATS AMAZING DUDE HOW THE HELL DID YOU MAKE THAT
Patience... And luck
Wow maybe i will try
I have some experience with lego but not that thats awesome
What kind of vacuum is that is it a rainbow
😂 yes!
make a vacuum pump out of lego
I don't think I can make something that can make a vacuum using just LEGO
I think it's partly because the piston can't draw in air
Yeah, I'll probably try to fix it at some point
Make it work for real till it melts !
i mean to me it just doesnt seem like u know how to make vacuum engines but idk
when i made a vaccum engine it ran first try so idk
I'm still learning how they work. I think I'll get one to work good soon
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO th-cam.com/video/bpzDBc3VNeY/w-d-xo.html
1:15 he explains it good
What about a train engine?
I already made one, just not vacuum
:)
for years ive been trying to make one, fail each time, do i need a very big flywheel
Is your timing of the valves correct?
@DeppadaimDienst yes, I've tried many types as well, like "butterfly," which has no valves
@@Spleeens5 What did you use as a flywheel?
@DeppadaimDienst I made a custom one. It's smaller than the one in the video but a bit thicker
@@Spleeens5 Oh out of lego bricks?
18 that says Briggs & Stratton will run we had a lawn mower had a hole in the side of the block and the damn thing still kept running we pull them off of scrap piles and junk yards and the lawn mowers we pull them but the joke and they started right up you're not going to get a bad one of the best lawn mower engines out there or Briggs & Stratton you might find one one might be a little bit better than that but you won't find no other one Briggs & Stratton is like almost number one out there but not quite but almost number one they always start no matter what unless you really smash him or if they're out of gas or your room till he ran out of the world he seized up
Shouldn't that be "bricks & Stratton" 😉
You need to change the valve setup
what you had in the beginning was perfect now you are sucking on the down stroke, I’m surprised it did anything
It's not sucking on the down stroke. The cam has a 2:1 ratio. Each time the piston rises, one of the two valves will be open, but they close before the piston falls
you should make a Lego turbine engine is the most easiest engine to make
I'll see what others I can attempt in the future
try and vacuum mod a lego v8 (official pieces)
Yeah... I don't even have a V8 I could mod into a vacuum engine. Yet...
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO search "lego v8 pieces" on google then you will see what i mean
Oh, that V8! I don't think I'm capable of doing that just yet!
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO good
I have an idea, you need an even fly wheel not with weights on each side
That can help but vacuum engines don’t need that big of a flywheel he built something wrong to be it looks like he didn’t add an exhaust valve
You don't "need" an exhaust valve. Many designs don't have them. But they do help a ton
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO well, you have to get air into the cylinder somehow. on designs where there are only intake valves, the piston isn't usually airtight thus letting air from the crankcase to the cylinder.
Can you juse dat engine to cut grass
You could, if you made a frame for it and a blade sharp enough. But this version is barely powerful enough to keep itself running
Just makes just make sure the valve the vacuum is on is open when it goes up and the other valve to open air because this setup is completely wrong
It's not "wrong" per say, but an exhaust valve would've helped a lot
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO 0:55 it’s open when the piston is going down and sucking on the piston
@@DeltonAdamsLEGOif it was me make the valve a 6 stud and split it up or that you have a 4 stud blok intake valve and a 6 stud block outlet valve
That was before I timed the engine. I messed around a lot with various timings