It isn't rejecting him, it's actually due to the confidence issues. And this is a serious rebuttal. It's the same reason Sabine had issues, and it's what the armorer tried to teach out of him. Din is a very pious and a very humble character, and the darksaber is special to his culture as its the religious icon of the mandalore.
I agree, but also believe it's a very specific type of confidence. A confidence based on the want to rule Mandalore. .... If Din wholeheartedly believes that he is the one to do as much - It'll lighten & be with him. ... & will do so regardless of his views on "how" to rule or being excepting of other Mandalorian outlooks. ... Taking the responsibility shall be enough. How I see it at least. .... Great episode 💯
Grogu will wield the dark sabor the hilt will be destroyed while djinn welds it and I bet grogu takes the crystal and forges a new sabor becoming the new mandlor
I think the blade knows that Din Djarin has conflicts within himself that need to be resolved, and the weight of the blade could signify or represent how much it weighs on his mind, body, spirit and abilities. I believe that once Din Djarin finds himself, the blade will fight with him rather than against him. And, as always, another spectacular video, Stupendous and may the Force be with You.
Its not rejecting, Din is against it sometimes he gets it sometimes he doesnt like he doesnt want it yet he won it fair and square. To me he risked his title of Mandalorian for his son in my eyes and the ancestors he is worth of being Mandalore just for that.
It wasn't just Din Jarin, remember back in the Book of Bobba Fett Din had that fight with another of Clan Vizla who was in the same sect as Din. The dark saber rejected him as well as he was struggling to lift the saber too. The idea that the crystal is dedicated to a particular ideal for all Mandalorians and not just a sect makes a lot more sense as he was firm believer of the sect then all Mandalorians as a whole.
@@ninjettifire That is not a bad theory, and one I even overlooked. And considering in the Rebels series she was first struggling to use the Dark Saber before that emotional outburst of her reasons for leaving Mandalor and her family you can see the Dark Saber eventually come to terms and even connect with Sabine throughout that spar with Kanaan. Seeing that she really didn't abandon the Mandalorians, but they had abandoned her when she tried to stop what was happening. In fact, it was during that part of the spar is when the Dark Saber even started to become slightly more powerful, feeding off that resentment and seeing it fully justified as resonated deeply with those core ideals and seeing them being betrayed by the very people it wished to serve and protect. And Sabine, while could be considered an apostate, was the one who took the burden of protecting the Mandalorians and was forsaken by them. Fueling that resentment and increasing the potency of the connection and the power of the saber as a whole as the pitch of the blade increased slightly with that familiar buzzing noise it gave.
Ngl it was pretty epic wielding the darksaber. However, SW there is one thing you forgot to consider in your video and that was the fact moff gideon had no issue wielding the saber either. Were his ideals aligned with that of mandolore as well? You should redo this video and include him as part of your analysis as well. However. I would offer that the darksaber could be somewhat like Mjolnyr from Thor and that it checks the heart of its wielder to see if they are a worthy leader for mandalore or not, and yes this could even include moff gideon. Din on the other is in the middle of an identity crisis because he believes himself to be an apostate in need of redemption while Bo Katan despite her flaws knows exactly who she is and what she wants for her people. Basically Din is not fighting against the blade but against himself and the blade knows it.
Imo you guys are overlooking it. Din just needs to train with the blade to get used to the energy loop present in all lightsabers. Its not like a lightsaber can refuse to be wielded by a powerful force sensitive, thats insanely dumb to think. Sabine struggled until Kanaan explained it to her and trained it into her. TRAINING guys, Din Djarin has refused to train with the saber so much so its simply a off hand weapon he uses when hes out of blasters. Just like a normal sword is heavy until you have trained the heavy out of it. Here from Rebels: "Energy constantly flows through the crystal. You're not fighting with a simple blade as much as you are directing a current of power. Your thoughts, your actions, they become energy." Not "the blade is rejecting you so you cant wield it properly" like the new trendy rumor of the saber.
@@MyrmThaBadMan sabine even said at first that it was heavier than expected. That also leads me to believe that there is more to it because sabine or bo katan are not stronger the djin. I agree with you but there are still holes. I really think its meant for grogu anyway.
@@pranc236 Yes but that I think is because she thought it was as light as Kanaans lightsaber. If she didnt hold his then maybe in comparison to a normal sword. And how a crossguard would be even heavier due to the exhausts of the crossguard. Then again I dont know where Disney intends to take lightsabers or the darksaber, just going by how it was explained to me in the old books and legends material.
When you add the sentence “ has a mind of its own” to something, it makes the purpose of an object very subjective, circumstantial, and almost unpredictable
We mustn't forget that Moff Gideon was able to wield the Darksaber almost effortlessly though...the man responsible for obliterating the Mandalorian people. As I've noticed a few others say, I think it's more about their confidence as a strong leader
I had assumed that this season was going to be about Din learning to let go of his adherence to the Armourer’s cult, but I’m really starting to think that the season will also be about Bo finding her own faith.
The minds of mandalore is best episode so far I will love to see din djarin not just have the darksaber but also raid a mythosaur that will be so epic.
It will probably happen in the end of the season, to reunite mandalorians the scenarist need something like that. the question is reunite mandalorians against who?
I can just picture the scene. Din Jarin armed with the Darksabre mounted on the Mythosaur Grogu riding shotgun and on his left Boba on the Rancor .All ready for battle.Pls make this Happen Filoni&Favreau🙏
I think that bocatan is going to train dinjarin on how to attune to the darksaber.. As she has gone from not being able to use it, to being able to use it. She is the key to unlocking its use for dinjarin so they must work together in order to unite mandalore as a whole , with the blade and dinjarin, herself and politics/belief and dinjarins politics/beliefs being a nod to it..
I suspect it's less about ideals, than it is about mindset. Din is plagued with doubt and shame, he views the idea of the Darksaber and leading the Mandalorians as a huge burden he is ready for. And so the Darksaber, with its Kyber crystal, reacts to and amplifies that and rebounds it back on to Din making Darksaber seem heavy and unwieldy. Of Pre Viszla, Maul, Moff Gideon, Bo-Katan, and Gar Saxon, none of them shared this mindset. None of them are or were plagued with doubts about their course or their worthiness.
All this lore they keep making about the Darksaber and how it keeps showing up in things I feel can be all traced back to the fact that it's purely just really cool.
Din is conflicted about being a Child of the Watch. He doesn't want to wield the dark saber or lead. The blade is meant to lead the Mandalorian people. He'll probably find conviction and confidence in protecting Grogu and reuniting the Mandalorians now that we know the Mythosaur appeared before him in his quest to bathe in the waters.
In this show din and the frog have been through test after test. As for the saber din has only needed it in meele situations. He is a carrier not a user. Range before melee. Brains before bronze. Wit is not a detriment unless you do not know how to use it accordingly. He did better with the spear than with the saber. In my opinion because it can also be used as a range weapon. Din: Good shot! Boba: I was aiming for the other one....
It’s a lightsaber not a Harry Potter wand. This is not how it works, din was fighting the saber he needs to train and learn to use it just like Sabine did.
And don't forget his little beskar shirt and maybe they make him some tiny mandalorian armor made out of beskar.i am just kidding but hey we can dream.
All your jaws will drop to the floor when Grogu will somehow end up having the blade in hands and wield it effortlessly in a crunch moment. It will be Grogu's weapon from that moment on. There's also enough Beskar laying around the mine to craft him a full armour.
I think that's why the dark saber got its color it's not on the light side or the dark side but has it's own strong ideals and/or convictions imprinted on the crystal
I believe it has to go back to what was said in the last episode of season 2 when he surrendered the blade. He said I yield. He didn't say it is yours or you deserve it. Before the battle began he yielded. That is a victory in the darksaber's view because in his heart he surrended the fight and thus the blade acknowledged it. Sabine didn't yield she just gave it away thus why it rejected bo katan in the first place but now it was different. She had one the battle even if no one else saw it that way. The darksaber sensed it and it changed its allegiance to bo katan
I'd like to think that Din will eventually realize the error of the ways of the Children of the Watch and embrace the true ideals of Mandalor. He did loathe droids with a passion in the first season because of what happened to his family as a child, but after his time with IG, he grew to appreciate droids and is now actively trying to repair IG. He gave up his creed by removing his helmet in front of Grogu. He learned the truth about Mandalor's "curse". Din is growing, and I believe he'll become a true Mandalorian before too long.
Its more like he isnt at peace with himself, he is in inner turmoil. All the other owners knew what they wanted to do, had clarity of purpose while both Sabine at the begining wasnt ready to accept a goal bigger than herself and Din who isnt ready to embrace a task bigger than his personal quest. I mean Maul didnt had anyconsideration for Mandalore or their way, they were just a tool for him
Honestly for a second during the episode I thought Grogu was going to grab it and go full Yoda all over that cyborg thing. I mean, he technically is a Mandolin Jedi…
Din Djarin will be the ruler of Mandalore! I think this was planned from last season if not prior, it will be the thing that everyone wants to see, If not this season then It will happen before the series ends.
Yah everyone saying is another civil war brewing but i think is the opposite 🤞🏼 The “what are you looking at” towards grogu tells me(but idk) bo katan has it for din 😍, plus they both been redeemed and saw the mythosaur Now. Gotta mean they can both lead their plp thru way of the creed.
The dark saber isn’t about mandalore, it’s about the connection to its user whether or not the user is in complete control of their emotions and intentions. I had thought that Din was having trouble with the dark saber bc he gave up Grogu, but he is still having trouble so it leads me to believe it is bc he doesn’t believe in himself.
@@yungkilig5122 I don't know what to laugh more at about this comment. The lack of explaination about it being wrong. Or the fact you took a joke comment like this one seriously
Yea bc this guy is notorious in the community for just talking out of his ass. It’s straight up explained in rebels that you need conviction to use the blade and it’s gets heavier the more unsure you are about yourself. Sabine couldn’t use it bc she didn’t wanna rule and felt pressured. Din can’t use it bc he doesn’t even feel mandalorian anymore. Moff, Bo, and maul have clear goals and clear minds. He didn’t even have to theorize this garbage rebels TELLS us
Nah after this episode l believe no one is more mandalorian than the mandolorian. Especially after his little speech to bo katan in this episode and the lengths his travelled to redeem himself (the old ways hold true). He doesn’t believe that his clan is superior he has come to accept other mandalorians over the seasons but it’s more like he believes it’s values and what they mean for his people. The dark saber issue as people have mentioned is more to do with the weight the sword carries who ever holds the sword will unite and rule mandalore and it’s people - this is a lot for our djin to process and accept at this moment in time.
I still believe that Grogu is the "Mandalorian". He is just like the Tsar Visla and chose to be a Mandalorian over being a jedi. He's going to tame the mythosaur and he's going to be the one who weilds the darksaber. You gotta remember who this show is made by. They're probably going to try to make an extra billion off this.
I just want a season or series giving a full breakdown of the darksaber. Why the blade looks like that, why is it black, why is the handle like this, why havent other jedi's use this design.
Moff and Gar seemed to wield it just fine (maul too for a bit). I don't think any of them were out for Mandalore, really. I'm going with selective plot convenience.
Great video! I believe the Children Of The Watch are wrong about why Mandalore fell. Their belief that, how the Dark Saber comes into your posession is important, is part of their larger belief system; which, stealing from Bo-Katan, is just superstition. The people believe it, so Bo-Katan has to deal with it, if she wants to lead; but it's still just superstition. As you point out, the Dark Saber responds to wielders based on whether their desires align with It's desires. How they take posession has been irrelevant. Din Djarin is the best example of that. Mandalore fell because the Empire was a galaxy-spanning, Sith-led, authoritarian superpower, that was destroying potential threats all across the galaxy. Madalore was one of many. The Night of A Thousand Tears would have happened regardless of how Bo-Katan came to possess the Dark Saber. It was inevitable.
I think this season is about that whole balance between the orthodox and the modern. Din is a Child of the Watch. Ultra Orthodox, but unforgiving. This is the way. Bo-Katan is the other side, ultra modern, accepting of too much influence from outside. Neither serves Mandalore well. One will die from attrition as the foundlings become less and less. The other from diluting the culture too far to be recognizable. They need to meet in the middle.
I think it's simpler than all that. The blade serves the ambitious. Din and Sabine don't have grand ambitions. Unlike the others. Gideon, Bo, Visla and Maul all had grand ambitions. Simple as that.
I think it's rejecting him due to him being conflicted. At this point, he hasn't fully embraced the responsibility that comes with wielding the blade. I think one must possess the will and desire to lead. The Dark Saber is meant for a leader and a strong one at that. Din is still growing and he has potential to be a leader. He needs to quit being in denial and embrace his gift and skills fully.
I have to say that it seems to be the reverse explanation to what you’re saying. During Star Wars Rebels Season 3 Episode 15 where Kanan is training Sabine on using the Darksaber he tells her that she should focus on winning her inner struggle and that it is her mental focus and mental connection with the blade that will allow her to use the Darksaber as it was intended to be used. Clearly Din is conflicted about his role and his future. Din looking for externalities to solve his problems, when he should be looking within. Others can wield the Darksaber because they have no such mental baggage as what Din is carrying around.
Intention in the creation of the saber is everything, its about the balance to lead the collective of Mandalorians, you think when Din was challenged after he injured himself on the dark saber. That other house Visla ancestor couldn't wield the dark saber either. To be open in the Jedi way with compassion to all and Mandalorians, to find their balance, and empowered once again.
I don't think that the darksaber is necessarily rejecting Din but its just there is conflict within him between the ultra-conservative beliefs he was taught by the Children of the Watch and what it actually means to be a Mandalorian. The crystal within the saber can sense this conflict and thus it will not fully align with him, will not let him channel its power (remember what Kanan said in Rebels when teaching Sabine to wield it that when your wielding a lightsaber you are not just wielding a blade but directing a current of power) until he finds a resolution to this conflict. That is also why the darksaber didn't resist Bo when she wielded it in this episode because she was fully embodying the true Mandalorian way in that moment.
This is just a theory but we might be overthinking this, upon winning the dark saber Din immediately offered it too Boa but in mandalorian custom one can only wield the saber if one has won it in one on one combat, but this may not necessarily be the rule of the saber itself, maybe it does allow it’s wielder to pass it on to one the wielder deems worthy and once this offer has been made it can’t be undone. This maybe the reason why it rejects Din and others like Paz vesla but allow Boa to wield it effortlessly. It was given to Boa and in that simple gesture ownership and recognition was transferred From Din too Boa
I think heavy spoilers and emergency awesome have good takes on the blade, i don’t think its an idea of loyalty or sentience but a belief in one’s self that has something to do with it
@@ghostkiller_5839 pretty sure after all almost every single fight for the dark saber they each faced each other ready or presumed ready to fight for the dark saber. This thing just ambushed Din out of nowhere and didn’t really when the saber in active combat if people could get the dark saber by sneaking someone than I am pretty sure it would be playing by elder wand rule(the wand from Harry Potter).
@@ghostkiller_5839 that the point the dark must be won in combat that is why Bo katan didn’t take Din giving it to her as she saw how well that turned out the first time.
I think din is on a major transformative journey. One that will leave him worthy to wield the saber. Bo Katan is seeing it. She knows that her history has tarnished her reputation. But din's journey has only emboldened his legend. He will reform the mandalorian people, bring them home. He will also likely revise the mand'oa creed. The helmet rule being one that he will alter. Mostly maintain offworld, but on mandalore repeal. Where bo katan only sees the damage done to the mandalorians, din sees opporunities and importance for his people. The following episodes and seasons can be full of him going on adventures to gather, aid, and revive his people into a unified people. Establish strong allies on other worlds
I think it's as simple as Din won it fairly in battle then offered it to Bo Katan and Moff Gideon said "that's now how it works" maybe it is how it works and now it's hers
It’s pretty clear to me too. We assume “The Mandalorian” in the title is Din. It’s not. Grogu is THE Mandalorian… and the future Mandalor in the mold of Tarre Vizsla - one who has claim to both Jedi and Mandalorian foundling roots. He will use his ability to talk to all creatures through the force, ride the Mythosaur, and wield the dark saber when it is time. There will be a provision about it being handed from father to son without combat and Grogu will lead Mandalore. Din is a loner. Bo is too entitled. Grogu is pure. His first words will be “This is the way”. All hail the Great (but tiny) Mandalor!
I'm not actually gonna watch the video ('cause I haven't seen the newest episode yet, so it would be spoilers); I just wanted to say that my disappointment is immeasurable (but my day is not ruined) that the title of this video is a spoiler in itself that I read on the TH-cam home page :,-(
Gideon and Bo have the same kind of relationship with the Saber: they both see him as Symbol of Great Power beyond his usefulness as a Weapon. The Saber 'obeys' them; he has deep respect for their Great Ambitions. Din and Vizla see the Saber as a Weapon and as Property. The Saber 'disobeys' them; he has nothing but contempt for their 'Lack of Vision'. The creator of the Dark Saber was wise to give it self-awareness and a 'Sense of Greater Purpose'. Who says every Droid has to look like a droid?
Mando doesn't get the meta-physical aspect that is required to "feel" the blade and the first time Grogu starts swinging it around like a piece of balloon art will be soooo cool Mando will learn how to wield it from Grogu and maybe live-action Sabine will turn up to help as a lead in to the Asoka show then MAYBE Asoka will show up asking Grogu's help connecting with the Pergil
I think one of the issues Djin is also having is that he is having doubts about his place as a Mandolorian we might see a change as he has just renewed his oath and he is probably about to learn more about the Mandolorians then he ever did before
As the armorer states in the book of boba fett, din is fighting the blade, the dark saber is down to the point a light saber, an extension of the users body and mind. Dins mind is clouded, trama of battle droids, need to be apart and excepted by the mandalorian way. He needs to know who he is
I bet Grogu will one day wield the Darksaber. I feel like that's the direction they're leaning towards and have left a pretty significant breadcrumb to that with the scene of Luke telling Grogu he had to choose between the Jedi lightsaber and the mandalorian chain mail. How cool would it be if Grogu chooses to live in both worlds and his first words are " This is the Way " and that's how they end the season?
I think the Darksaber vibes with raw strength and purpose.. the Mandalorians are what they are BECAUSE of strength and purpose. I think the armorer knows Djinn's strength and character are real.. but the only way he's going to find his resolution in purpose is if he's willing to stop being a wanderer and to find his purpose in leading. The context is great but your message is unclear. To redeem yourself as a youtuber you will need to wash your next video in the clear purpose and improved outro music. This is the way.
Sounds to me like the darksaber is resisting him because he isn't willing to fully commit to true justice and/or the way of Mandolore. Kinda like how the Tatsu-Ashi blade (G.I. Joe; Valor vs. Venom) can only be wielded by a selfless warrior sering justice to prevail against evil...which is why it refused to be removed from its scabbard during certain times in the above referenced cartoon.
Din is basically space Jon Snow (knows nothing, “i don’t want it”). And it seems like they also now have a space Dany (i’m the rightful heir, with a throne and a castle to boot)…and possibly her own dragon
Please remind me did the dark saber act like this since he removed his helmet thus shattering his mandalorian confidence (when he took it off with IG on Navarro) . Because he did do it again at the end of season 1 ya. But he didn’t have possession of the dark saber yet. I think with the waking of the Mythosaur when Din was near by he reawakened his mandalorian fortitude and the dark saber will be easier for him to wield. Also I think Din will use the Mythosaur because not only would it be awesome, but due to the fact that it woke up when Din was near. Bo-Katan bathed in the waters regularly she said, and the Mythosaur didn’t sense she was the true leader.
Confidence seems to be the matter of significance, it's sentient (in so far as kyber crystals and the force at large is) but not necessarily sapient, so really it's not "choosing" it's wielder so much is expecting confidence from them - it's simply an exaggerated example of how any lightsaber feels in the hand...
Like a lot of commenters I feel like it's Dins unwillingness to become the ruler of mandalore. The darksaber isn't rejecting him so much as he's rejecting it.
Din is in a turbulent state , due to his transgressions of removing helmet… at his core Din’s heart yearns to adhere to the way of the Mandalore …. He believes he is in a fallen state, how could he wield a weapon that is attuned to weilders spirit or force energy? He couldn’t……
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It isn't rejecting him, it's actually due to the confidence issues. And this is a serious rebuttal. It's the same reason Sabine had issues, and it's what the armorer tried to teach out of him. Din is a very pious and a very humble character, and the darksaber is special to his culture as its the religious icon of the mandalore.
This is what I was thinking
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Yes, he's essentially not confident of his power as an upcoming mandalore
I agree, but also believe it's a very specific type of confidence. A confidence based on the want to rule Mandalore. .... If Din wholeheartedly believes that he is the one to do as much - It'll lighten & be with him. ... & will do so regardless of his views on "how" to rule or being excepting of other Mandalorian outlooks. ... Taking the responsibility shall be enough.
How I see it at least. .... Great episode 💯
It rejected him. It embraced Bo. Od but true
Grogu will wield the dark sabor the hilt will be destroyed while djinn welds it and I bet grogu takes the crystal and forges a new sabor becoming the new mandlor
I think the blade knows that Din Djarin has conflicts within himself that need to be resolved, and the weight of the blade could signify or represent how much it weighs on his mind, body, spirit and abilities. I believe that once Din Djarin finds himself, the blade will fight with him rather than against him. And, as always, another spectacular video, Stupendous and may the Force be with You.
I think you’re absolutely correct.
Its not rejecting, Din is against it sometimes he gets it sometimes he doesnt like he doesnt want it yet he won it fair and square. To me he risked his title of Mandalorian for his son in my eyes and the ancestors he is worth of being Mandalore just for that.
It wasn't just Din Jarin, remember back in the Book of Bobba Fett Din had that fight with another of Clan Vizla who was in the same sect as Din. The dark saber rejected him as well as he was struggling to lift the saber too. The idea that the crystal is dedicated to a particular ideal for all Mandalorians and not just a sect makes a lot more sense as he was firm believer of the sect then all Mandalorians as a whole.
I think that if Din meets Sabine Wrenn many components of his current struggle will come to light. Remember the opening scene of season three?
@@ninjettifire That is not a bad theory, and one I even overlooked. And considering in the Rebels series she was first struggling to use the Dark Saber before that emotional outburst of her reasons for leaving Mandalor and her family you can see the Dark Saber eventually come to terms and even connect with Sabine throughout that spar with Kanaan. Seeing that she really didn't abandon the Mandalorians, but they had abandoned her when she tried to stop what was happening. In fact, it was during that part of the spar is when the Dark Saber even started to become slightly more powerful, feeding off that resentment and seeing it fully justified as resonated deeply with those core ideals and seeing them being betrayed by the very people it wished to serve and protect. And Sabine, while could be considered an apostate, was the one who took the burden of protecting the Mandalorians and was forsaken by them. Fueling that resentment and increasing the potency of the connection and the power of the saber as a whole as the pitch of the blade increased slightly with that familiar buzzing noise it gave.
Ngl it was pretty epic wielding the darksaber. However, SW there is one thing you forgot to consider in your video and that was the fact moff gideon had no issue wielding the saber either. Were his ideals aligned with that of mandolore as well? You should redo this video and include him as part of your analysis as well.
However. I would offer that the darksaber could be somewhat like Mjolnyr from Thor and that it checks the heart of its wielder to see if they are a worthy leader for mandalore or not, and yes this could even include moff gideon. Din on the other is in the middle of an identity crisis because he believes himself to be an apostate in need of redemption while Bo Katan despite her flaws knows exactly who she is and what she wants for her people.
Basically Din is not fighting against the blade but against himself and the blade knows it.
That's a great analysis.
Imo you guys are overlooking it. Din just needs to train with the blade to get used to the energy loop present in all lightsabers.
Its not like a lightsaber can refuse to be wielded by a powerful force sensitive, thats insanely dumb to think.
Sabine struggled until Kanaan explained it to her and trained it into her.
TRAINING guys, Din Djarin has refused to train with the saber so much so its simply a off hand weapon he uses when hes out of blasters.
Just like a normal sword is heavy until you have trained the heavy out of it.
Here from Rebels:
"Energy constantly flows through the crystal. You're not fighting with a simple blade as much as you are directing a current of power. Your thoughts, your actions, they become energy."
Not "the blade is rejecting you so you cant wield it properly" like the new trendy rumor of the saber.
@@MyrmThaBadMan sabine even said at first that it was heavier than expected. That also leads me to believe that there is more to it because sabine or bo katan are not stronger the djin.
I agree with you but there are still holes. I really think its meant for grogu anyway.
@@pranc236 Yes but that I think is because she thought it was as light as Kanaans lightsaber. If she didnt hold his then maybe in comparison to a normal sword.
And how a crossguard would be even heavier due to the exhausts of the crossguard. Then again I dont know where Disney intends to take lightsabers or the darksaber, just going by how it was explained to me in the old books and legends material.
@@MyrmThaBadMan totally agree.. its a good thing jon and dave are on that or it would make zero sense
He’s literally on a journey to redeem himself for one caste of the Mando’s while learning that he should accept all mando’s
The Mythosaur is real. It's finally canon.
Last week, we get the Zillo Beast back, and now this? There is still hope!
I lost it when I saw him/her lurking in the depths.
There’s always a bit of truth in legends
Great to see the beast .I can just picture Din&Grogu mounted up it next to Boba and the Rancor
It's now a Realosaur
When you add the sentence “ has a mind of its own” to something, it makes the purpose of an object very subjective, circumstantial, and almost unpredictable
We mustn't forget that Moff Gideon was able to wield the Darksaber almost effortlessly though...the man responsible for obliterating the Mandalorian people. As I've noticed a few others say, I think it's more about their confidence as a strong leader
I don’t think the Darksaber is rejecting Din. By all rights he has earned it. I think Din is rejecting it, he doesn’t think he is worthy.
I had assumed that this season was going to be about Din learning to let go of his adherence to the Armourer’s cult, but I’m really starting to think that the season will also be about Bo finding her own faith.
The minds of mandalore is best episode so far I will love to see din djarin not just have the darksaber but also raid a mythosaur that will be so epic.
It will probably happen in the end of the season, to reunite mandalorians the scenarist need something like that. the question is reunite mandalorians against who?
I can just picture the scene. Din Jarin armed with the Darksabre mounted on the Mythosaur Grogu riding shotgun and on his left Boba on the Rancor .All ready for battle.Pls make this Happen Filoni&Favreau🙏
Now all they need is an army of baddies for our heroes to slay with their epic creature mounts!
Grogu is going to take up Tarr Vizsla ideals and be known as the 2nd Mandlorian Jedi as a Foundling and the next head of Clan MudHorn
In future perhaps other mandalorians are joining Clan mudhorn and grogu will lead mandalore after the death of his father.
@@ghostkiller_5839 possibility and he's the only one to get all of mandalore under one banner while weilding the darksaber
Din is just too afraid to use the Darksaber for now. As the Armorer said, the darksaber controls him and not the other way around.
the best explanation i have heard yet about the Darksaber
Din Djarin should tell the darksaber this: "Work with me on this or I will take you apart and put your pieces to better use"
Lol good luck with that
I think that bocatan is going to train dinjarin on how to attune to the darksaber.. As she has gone from not being able to use it, to being able to use it. She is the key to unlocking its use for dinjarin so they must work together in order to unite mandalore as a whole , with the blade and dinjarin, herself and politics/belief and dinjarins politics/beliefs being a nod to it..
If the Dark Saber is aligned with the machinations of its user, then how did Moff Gideon wield it like a boss?
I suspect it's less about ideals, than it is about mindset.
Din is plagued with doubt and shame, he views the idea of the Darksaber and leading the Mandalorians as a huge burden he is ready for. And so the Darksaber, with its Kyber crystal, reacts to and amplifies that and rebounds it back on to Din making Darksaber seem heavy and unwieldy.
Of Pre Viszla, Maul, Moff Gideon, Bo-Katan, and Gar Saxon, none of them shared this mindset. None of them are or were plagued with doubts about their course or their worthiness.
I beg to differ, the saber was a bit heavy in his hands, rewatch his duel with Din Djarin and see it
@@dungeonguy88 finally someone spoke the true truth
Darksaber is eventually going to go to Grogu. A little mandalorian Yoda
All this lore they keep making about the Darksaber and how it keeps showing up in things I feel can be all traced back to the fact that it's purely just really cool.
Din is conflicted about being a Child of the Watch. He doesn't want to wield the dark saber or lead. The blade is meant to lead the Mandalorian people. He'll probably find conviction and confidence in protecting Grogu and reuniting the Mandalorians now that we know the Mythosaur appeared before him in his quest to bathe in the waters.
Nice vid, amazing to see Bo-katan wielding the darksaber so skillfully.
Unfortunately, you are wrong. He's just having trouble getting it up. Now Bo-Katan will help him get his saber up and swinging in no time.
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Lmaooooo he needs to become a get Roman guy
He'll finally be devirgitized?
Because he’s not embracing the force he feels like a force to be reckoned with grogu will teach him the ways of the force the true way
In this show din and the frog have been through test after test. As for the saber din has only needed it in meele situations. He is a carrier not a user. Range before melee. Brains before bronze. Wit is not a detriment unless you do not know how to use it accordingly. He did better with the spear than with the saber. In my opinion because it can also be used as a range weapon.
Din: Good shot!
Boba: I was aiming for the other one....
It's a blade. Not a person. An object can't reject anything. He doesn't know how to properly wield it.
The Dark Saber is a weapon, it doesn't "accept" or "reject" anyone
So, Din doesn't know how to use a weapon? Even Moff Gideon does.
@@varunaeeriyaulla Din doesn't know how to use a lightsaber. Just like how Sabine didn't know how to use one when she got the Darksaber
It’s a lightsaber not a Harry Potter wand. This is not how it works, din was fighting the saber he needs to train and learn to use it just like Sabine did.
Imagine if the next episode starts off with a flashback to Tarre Vizla creating the darksaber 😮🔥
You are wrong, Moff and Maul both didn't care about leading the mandalorians.
Moff did actually. It’s confirmed that moff wishes he was mandalorian and he wanted that title and power
I believe that the Dark Saber will eventually go to Grogu in the future.
It's too big for his hands/claws
I agree
What lol
And don't forget his little beskar shirt and maybe they make him some tiny mandalorian armor made out of beskar.i am just kidding but hey we can dream.
Yes. 150 years later when he became an adolescent.
All your jaws will drop to the floor when Grogu will somehow end up having the blade in hands and wield it effortlessly in a crunch moment. It will be Grogu's weapon from that moment on. There's also enough Beskar laying around the mine to craft him a full armour.
I think that's why the dark saber got its color it's not on the light side or the dark side but has it's own strong ideals and/or convictions imprinted on the crystal
I believe it has to go back to what was said in the last episode of season 2 when he surrendered the blade. He said I yield. He didn't say it is yours or you deserve it. Before the battle began he yielded. That is a victory in the darksaber's view because in his heart he surrended the fight and thus the blade acknowledged it. Sabine didn't yield she just gave it away thus why it rejected bo katan in the first place but now it was different. She had one the battle even if no one else saw it that way. The darksaber sensed it and it changed its allegiance to bo katan
I suspect the blade will begin to get lighter from now on.
I'd like to think that Din will eventually realize the error of the ways of the Children of the Watch and embrace the true ideals of Mandalor. He did loathe droids with a passion in the first season because of what happened to his family as a child, but after his time with IG, he grew to appreciate droids and is now actively trying to repair IG. He gave up his creed by removing his helmet in front of Grogu. He learned the truth about Mandalor's "curse". Din is growing, and I believe he'll become a true Mandalorian before too long.
I was thinking while watching the new episode, that Grogu is "The Mandalorian"
It didnt. The dark saber demands the same fearlessness a jedi carries in battle. For this is the way.
This would literally be most of our dream lightsabers
Bo-katan with the darksaber felt like possible foreshadowing
Because he has no set goals where the dark saber would benefit him
Its more like he isnt at peace with himself, he is in inner turmoil. All the other owners knew what they wanted to do, had clarity of purpose while both Sabine at the begining wasnt ready to accept a goal bigger than herself and Din who isnt ready to embrace a task bigger than his personal quest. I mean Maul didnt had anyconsideration for Mandalore or their way, they were just a tool for him
The first 2 and half minutes explained your point
Honestly for a second during the episode I thought Grogu was going to grab it and go full Yoda all over that cyborg thing. I mean, he technically is a Mandolin Jedi…
Oof, was NOT expecting some SICK dnb at the end of this informative nerdy video! \m/
Din Djarin will be the ruler of Mandalore! I think this was planned from last season if not prior, it will be the thing that everyone wants to see, If not this season then It will happen before the series ends.
Yah everyone saying is another civil war brewing but i think is the opposite 🤞🏼 The “what are you looking at” towards grogu tells me(but idk) bo katan has it for din 😍, plus they both been redeemed and saw the mythosaur Now. Gotta mean they can both lead their plp thru way of the creed.
I am hoping to no end neither of them become Mandalore. I want original Cannon to come back and Boba take his place
I hope they have him find the Mask of Mandalore. So, he has no doubt.
@Bumpin88 yeah, considering his family lineage is that of the Mandalore. His Father and Father's Founder were both Mandalore
Always gets me hyped to see the dark saber can’t wait till he becomes a pro with it
I don’t think it’s rejecting him, he just needs to learn how to wield it.
WOULD LOVE TO HEAR A PODCAST WITH YOU AND THEORY DISCUSS ALL THING STARWARS. I THINK YOU GUYS WOULD HE A GREAT MATCH
The dark saber isn’t about mandalore, it’s about the connection to its user whether or not the user is in complete control of their emotions and intentions. I had thought that Din was having trouble with the dark saber bc he gave up Grogu, but he is still having trouble so it leads me to believe it is bc he doesn’t believe in himself.
I believe that it rejects him because he acquired it after breaking the creed. It causes a lot of emotional and mental imbalances in Mano.
Maybe the blade only rejects those with a pure heart. Since Pre Vizsla, Bo-Katan, Maul and Gar Saxon were clearly not pure
And Moff Gideon
Wrong
@@yungkilig5122 I don't know what to laugh more at about this comment. The lack of explaination about it being wrong. Or the fact you took a joke comment like this one seriously
Yes maybe it wants him to evolve in his beliefs and have both he and Bo Katan to bridge the rifts. Maybe they’ll be an item and rule together! 😂
Bo and Din are destined to marry and create a new line - the line of DinBo. The Sabre, being wise, knows this...
Din Djarin is saved two times in a single episode, holy shit, this man is getting weak....
The biggest problem with this theory is they Moff Gideon Wielded it just fine….
Yea bc this guy is notorious in the community for just talking out of his ass. It’s straight up explained in rebels that you need conviction to use the blade and it’s gets heavier the more unsure you are about yourself. Sabine couldn’t use it bc she didn’t wanna rule and felt pressured. Din can’t use it bc he doesn’t even feel mandalorian anymore. Moff, Bo, and maul have clear goals and clear minds.
He didn’t even have to theorize this garbage rebels TELLS us
If this is true why did the Armorer use it so easily ?
She is definitely biased .
Nah after this episode l believe no one is more mandalorian than the mandolorian. Especially after his little speech to bo katan in this episode and the lengths his travelled to redeem himself (the old ways hold true).
He doesn’t believe that his clan is superior he has come to accept other mandalorians over the seasons but it’s more like he believes it’s values and what they mean for his people.
The dark saber issue as people have mentioned is more to do with the weight the sword carries who ever holds the sword will unite and rule mandalore and it’s people - this is a lot for our djin to process and accept at this moment in time.
Amazing video,fantastic job.
Grogu will wield the dark saber while riding a mythasour as the leader of the mandalorians. The name of the show mandalorian is talking about grogu
You might be on to something. Din is A mandalorian. The final outcome could be someone ( I think grogu) being designated THE mandalorian. Bravo
I still believe that Grogu is the "Mandalorian". He is just like the Tsar Visla and chose to be a Mandalorian over being a jedi. He's going to tame the mythosaur and he's going to be the one who weilds the darksaber. You gotta remember who this show is made by. They're probably going to try to make an extra billion off this.
My thoughts exactly.
I just want a season or series giving a full breakdown of the darksaber. Why the blade looks like that, why is it black, why is the handle like this, why havent other jedi's use this design.
Moff and Gar seemed to wield it just fine (maul too for a bit). I don't think any of them were out for Mandalore, really. I'm going with selective plot convenience.
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Great video! I believe the Children Of The Watch are wrong about why Mandalore fell. Their belief that, how the Dark Saber comes into your posession is important, is part of their larger belief system; which, stealing from Bo-Katan, is just superstition. The people believe it, so Bo-Katan has to deal with it, if she wants to lead; but it's still just superstition. As you point out, the Dark Saber responds to wielders based on whether their desires align with It's desires. How they take posession has been irrelevant. Din Djarin is the best example of that. Mandalore fell because the Empire was a galaxy-spanning, Sith-led, authoritarian superpower, that was destroying potential threats all across the galaxy. Madalore was one of many. The Night of A Thousand Tears would have happened regardless of how Bo-Katan came to possess the Dark Saber. It was inevitable.
Maul had focus derived from hatred and rage ,he had no doubt and compunction about his actions, therefore he could weild the Dark Saber so smoothly.
I think this season is about that whole balance between the orthodox and the modern. Din is a Child of the Watch. Ultra Orthodox, but unforgiving. This is the way. Bo-Katan is the other side, ultra modern, accepting of too much influence from outside. Neither serves Mandalore well. One will die from attrition as the foundlings become less and less. The other from diluting the culture too far to be recognizable. They need to meet in the middle.
Bo and Din are destined to marry and create a new line - the line of DinBo. The Sabre, being wise, knows this...
@@Taojas and is training a new Manda'lor in Grogu, one that will reign for hundreds of years! MUAHAHAHA
I think it's simpler than all that. The blade serves the ambitious. Din and Sabine don't have grand ambitions. Unlike the others. Gideon, Bo, Visla and Maul all had grand ambitions. Simple as that.
I think it's rejecting him due to him being conflicted. At this point, he hasn't fully embraced the responsibility that comes with wielding the blade. I think one must possess the will and desire to lead. The Dark Saber is meant for a leader and a strong one at that. Din is still growing and he has potential to be a leader. He needs to quit being in denial and embrace his gift and skills fully.
I just hope that whatever the outcome, that the mythasaur isn't killed to prove any points , mandalore needs it's beasts, as well as it's people
I have to say that it seems to be the reverse explanation to what you’re saying. During Star Wars Rebels Season 3 Episode 15 where Kanan is training Sabine on using the Darksaber he tells her that she should focus on winning her inner struggle and that it is her mental focus and mental connection with the blade that will allow her to use the Darksaber as it was intended to be used. Clearly Din is conflicted about his role and his future. Din looking for externalities to solve his problems, when he should be looking within. Others can wield the Darksaber because they have no such mental baggage as what Din is carrying around.
Intention in the creation of the saber is everything, its about the balance to lead the collective of Mandalorians, you think when Din was challenged after he injured himself on the dark saber. That other house Visla ancestor couldn't wield the dark saber either. To be open in the Jedi way with compassion to all and Mandalorians, to find their balance, and empowered once again.
Many non-Mandalorian's used it successfully. Moff Gideon for example. That alone discredits a pro Mandalorian bias
I don't think that the darksaber is necessarily rejecting Din but its just there is conflict within him between the ultra-conservative beliefs he was taught by the Children of the Watch and what it actually means to be a Mandalorian. The crystal within the saber can sense this conflict and thus it will not fully align with him, will not let him channel its power (remember what Kanan said in Rebels when teaching Sabine to wield it that when your wielding a lightsaber you are not just wielding a blade but directing a current of power) until he finds a resolution to this conflict. That is also why the darksaber didn't resist Bo when she wielded it in this episode because she was fully embodying the true Mandalorian way in that moment.
This is just a theory but we might be overthinking this, upon winning the dark saber Din immediately offered it too Boa but in mandalorian custom one can only wield the saber if one has won it in one on one combat, but this may not necessarily be the rule of the saber itself, maybe it does allow it’s wielder to pass it on to one the wielder deems worthy and once this offer has been made it can’t be undone.
This maybe the reason why it rejects Din and others like Paz vesla but allow Boa to wield it effortlessly. It was given to Boa and in that simple gesture ownership and recognition was transferred From Din too Boa
I think heavy spoilers and emergency awesome have good takes on the blade, i don’t think its an idea of loyalty or sentience but a belief in one’s self that has something to do with it
I hope he goes visit Luke for some lessons. Grogu can sneak into the hut and grab Yodas little saber to play with also.
Does Bo Katan have a claim to the darksaber now? She defeated the creature that “defeated” Din
I don’t think so the creature didn’t beat din in active combat he ambushed him and just throw the dark saber way so Din still has claim to the saber
@@dilynhoward1088 it's an act of honor
@@ghostkiller_5839 pretty sure after all almost every single fight for the dark saber they each faced each other ready or presumed ready to fight for the dark saber. This thing just ambushed Din out of nowhere and didn’t really when the saber in active combat if people could get the dark saber by sneaking someone than I am pretty sure it would be playing by elder wand rule(the wand from Harry Potter).
@@dilynhoward1088 I mean bo katan not taking the darksaber directly from din but only in combat
@@ghostkiller_5839 that the point the dark must be won in combat that is why Bo katan didn’t take Din giving it to her as she saw how well that turned out the first time.
I think din is on a major transformative journey. One that will leave him worthy to wield the saber. Bo Katan is seeing it. She knows that her history has tarnished her reputation. But din's journey has only emboldened his legend. He will reform the mandalorian people, bring them home. He will also likely revise the mand'oa creed. The helmet rule being one that he will alter. Mostly maintain offworld, but on mandalore repeal. Where bo katan only sees the damage done to the mandalorians, din sees opporunities and importance for his people. The following episodes and seasons can be full of him going on adventures to gather, aid, and revive his people into a unified people. Establish strong allies on other worlds
I think it's as simple as Din won it fairly in battle then offered it to Bo Katan and Moff Gideon said "that's now how it works" maybe it is how it works and now it's hers
Grogu will be the rightful ruler of Mandalore and wielder of the dark sabre when he is of age.
It’s pretty clear to me too. We assume “The Mandalorian” in the title is Din. It’s not. Grogu is THE Mandalorian… and the future Mandalor in the mold of Tarre Vizsla - one who has claim to both Jedi and Mandalorian foundling roots. He will use his ability to talk to all creatures through the force, ride the Mythosaur, and wield the dark saber when it is time. There will be a provision about it being handed from father to son without combat and Grogu will lead Mandalore. Din is a loner. Bo is too entitled. Grogu is pure. His first words will be “This is the way”. All hail the Great (but tiny) Mandalor!
Why could moff Gideon wield it?
I'm not actually gonna watch the video ('cause I haven't seen the newest episode yet, so it would be spoilers); I just wanted to say that my disappointment is immeasurable (but my day is not ruined) that the title of this video is a spoiler in itself that I read on the TH-cam home page :,-(
Gideon and Bo have the same kind of relationship with the Saber: they both see him as Symbol of Great Power beyond his usefulness as a Weapon.
The Saber 'obeys' them; he has deep respect for their Great Ambitions.
Din and Vizla see the Saber as a Weapon and as Property.
The Saber 'disobeys' them; he has nothing but contempt for their 'Lack of Vision'.
The creator of the Dark Saber was wise to give it self-awareness and a 'Sense of Greater Purpose'.
Who says every Droid has to look like a droid?
Mando doesn't get the meta-physical aspect that is required to "feel" the blade
and the first time Grogu starts swinging it around like a piece of balloon art will be soooo cool
Mando will learn how to wield it from Grogu and maybe live-action Sabine will turn up to help as a lead in to the Asoka show
then MAYBE Asoka will show up asking Grogu's help connecting with the Pergil
It's a set up for dinn and bogatan to become together and have little mandolarins
I think one of the issues Djin is also having is that he is having doubts about his place as a Mandolorian we might see a change as he has just renewed his oath and he is probably about to learn more about the Mandolorians then he ever did before
As the armorer states in the book of boba fett, din is fighting the blade, the dark saber is down to the point a light saber, an extension of the users body and mind. Dins mind is clouded, trama of battle droids, need to be apart and excepted by the mandalorian way. He needs to know who he is
I bet Grogu will one day wield the Darksaber. I feel like that's the direction they're leaning towards and have left a pretty significant breadcrumb to that with the scene of Luke telling Grogu he had to choose between the Jedi lightsaber and the mandalorian chain mail. How cool would it be if Grogu chooses to live in both worlds and his first words are " This is the Way " and that's how they end the season?
I love the Mandalorian and I love the darksaber it's just so cool
I think the Darksaber vibes with raw strength and purpose.. the Mandalorians are what they are BECAUSE of strength and purpose. I think the armorer knows Djinn's strength and character are real.. but the only way he's going to find his resolution in purpose is if he's willing to stop being a wanderer and to find his purpose in leading.
The context is great but your message is unclear. To redeem yourself as a youtuber you will need to wash your next video in the clear purpose and improved outro music.
This is the way.
spot on
He has to confront a major event in his past and accept what he has done.
very good theory...great video
He seems to treat it more like a weapon rather than an active sentient blade
Sounds to me like the darksaber is resisting him because he isn't willing to fully commit to true justice and/or the way of Mandolore. Kinda like how the Tatsu-Ashi blade (G.I. Joe; Valor vs. Venom) can only be wielded by a selfless warrior sering justice to prevail against evil...which is why it refused to be removed from its scabbard during certain times in the above referenced cartoon.
Din is basically space Jon Snow (knows nothing, “i don’t want it”). And it seems like they also now have a space Dany (i’m the rightful heir, with a throne and a castle to boot)…and possibly her own dragon
Please remind me did the dark saber act like this since he removed his helmet thus shattering his mandalorian confidence (when he took it off with IG on Navarro) . Because he did do it again at the end of season 1 ya. But he didn’t have possession of the dark saber yet. I think with the waking of the Mythosaur when Din was near by he reawakened his mandalorian fortitude and the dark saber will be easier for him to wield. Also I think Din will use the Mythosaur because not only would it be awesome, but due to the fact that it woke up when Din was near. Bo-Katan bathed in the waters regularly she said, and the Mythosaur didn’t sense she was the true leader.
Confidence seems to be the matter of significance, it's sentient (in so far as kyber crystals and the force at large is) but not necessarily sapient, so really it's not "choosing" it's wielder so much is expecting confidence from them - it's simply an exaggerated example of how any lightsaber feels in the hand...
Din for the win.
Like a lot of commenters I feel like it's Dins unwillingness to become the ruler of mandalore. The darksaber isn't rejecting him so much as he's rejecting it.
Din is in a turbulent state , due to his transgressions of removing helmet… at his core Din’s heart yearns to adhere to the way of the Mandalore …. He believes he is in a fallen state, how could he wield a weapon that is attuned to weilders spirit or force energy? He couldn’t……
The darksaber show’s Yin and yang a Chinese philosophical concept that describes opposite but interconnected forces.