I love how in every outro Jeff is like "wow you really watched that whole thing huh? I wasted that much of your time?" like nah man this shit is actually entertaining, keep it up.
Andy's dog is named Buster. Bo Peep really isn't a toy, she's a figure on a lamp makes you wonder WHAT is a classified as a toy and what can come to life. Woody mentions in 3, if they go sent to attic they could make friends with the Christmas decorations...you mean like the Santas, Elves, the angels, even the Nativity Scene, they're alive, too? or the phone in 3 who only talks if it you answer it/pick up the receiver.
That brings up a really interesting question of whether or not a sentient Jesus "toy" (figurine really, which is exactly what Bo Peep is) would know who Jesus is? Would they necessarily be a Christian themselves? Would they consider themselves blasphemous, but not be able to do anything about it given their immortality? Would their mind break as they realized the humans that surround them will be saved and go to heaven, but they, the actual image of God in human form himself, will be stuck on Earth for eternity?
Your altered Gabby Gabby scene genuinely made me cry. I feel like that kind of story arc and "lesson" for her must have been the intent at some point im development but got lost somewhere along the way.
Agreed. That 45-second story reword elicited more emotion from me than anything in the actual film. It validates my feeling that my disdain for Toy Story 4 isn't just rooted in cynical adulthood; the script and direction really do feel half-finished.
I saw this comment before finishing the vid and was like yeah okay I'm not that into this franchise tho but then he said the part with the child stuttering and I got instantly teary-eyed 😭
No honestly, I wasn't expecting it and it felt like a gut blow with how sweet it was. Teary eyed at a Toy Story TH-cam video-- Would have been great in the actual film
The deep horror hinted at in this franchise has bothered me most of my life. I was about 11 when I saw Toy Story 3. The dump scene really hit me. I have had so many nightmares over the years about being a toy that got discarded. The idea of being a conscious entity trapped in confined area, unable to even die, possibly for centuries is horrifying. This is something the show Black Mirror explores with its episodes on making digital copies of human consciousness
I believe or at least hope they eventually hibernate or stop thinking if unused for a longer time. So it’s rather a long sleep than becoming crazy through decades of isolation.
@@citruscirrus5607if it helps, the thought i always have is “well, i’m not loving and cherishing these toys anymore, but if i donate them, someone else could.” and i think people who get their toys from donations would probably be more likely to donate the toys themselves when they’re grown up, rather than just sending them to the dump. the toys will probably end up with people who will try to take good care of them & repair them rather than just throwing them out. i have OCD, so i totally get knowing that the toys are not alive and yet being too freaked out to get rid of them *just in case.* hope that helps :)
I have a hypothesis about why Buzz Lightyear toys start out the way they do. The boxes have a big quote on the back and if one Buzz is packed in behind another one, it will be stuck there reading about himself until taken out of the package. Maybe that's somewhat unique compared to other toys that would have more explicit "toy" imagery on their packaging.
Or because they all just have a backstory hammered into their brains. But from *where?* The act of making them? They're not that advanced. The collective belief that that's what Buzz Lightyear is/should be? Then could the backstory in each BL's head be changed if the public perception of the toy is changed or the backstory is reworked? How far can I stretch this? If someone where to convince a vast majority of the public that the BL toys were dangerous for whatever reason, would their outlook change because of that? If there was a reboot, would the new BL toys all get a "backstory" in their heads that aligns with that? What about things like retcons or plot errors? Would those transfer over? This might be even worse.
As a kid I thought that all toys had to go through a similar process of figuring out they’re toys but nah. Maybe it’s something to do with the Buzz personality? Maybe being a space ranger makes them perfectly ready to believe they’re on a strange planet no matter what toys they meet. Which to me if that’s true then the creators did that completely by accident. Which might have horrifying implications.
Here’s what keeps me up at night. What about the army men? In Toy Story 3 they nope out, state the war is over folks and move out… to where? Did they go through basic training? Is there a home base they are heading off too? A massive encampment run by militants toy soldiers waiting for deployment? And why where they let off the hook? Was only because woody is malignant narcissist who could handle being number 1 and the toy soldiers served his purpose? Re watching this with my kids has left me with too many unanswered questions
Here’s what keeps me up at night. What about the army men? In Toy Story 3 they nope out, state the war is over folks and move out… to where? Did they go through basic training? Is there a home base they are heading off too? A massive encampment run by militants toy soldiers waiting for deployment? And why where they let off the hook? Was only because woody is malignant narcissist who could handle being number 1 and the toy soldiers served his purpose? Re watching this with my kids has left me with too many unanswered questions
Here’s what keeps me up at night. What about the army men? In Toy Story 3 they nope out, state the war is over folks and move out… to where? Did they go through basic training? Is there a home base they are heading off too? A massive encampment run by militants toy soldiers waiting for deployment? And why where they let off the hook? Was only because woody is malignant narcissist who could handle being number 1 and the toy soldiers served his purpose? Re watching this with my kids has left me with too many unanswered questions
all it does confirm ST4 really is that back and it not just this video, almost anyone could made better, version, (its the bit on the end) and when you watch credit roll, at the end TS4, not one person named there said anything? don't no the hole history but am sure the most be at some of them worked on all the ST films? and just said the the plot of TS4 is just *&^%$%^&
That fixed ending honestly made me cry multiple times. That was a masterclass of story telling and what you did with Gabby and the stuttering girl was beautiful. Whoever is working on the 5th needs to see this video ❤
@@uncledonel1742 Honestly, I personally feel like the series should've ended at 4; its a perfect ending to me! ...but, y'know... ...corporate greed is apparently better than creative storytelling...
When I was like 6 I broke a toys voice box by accident and held that guilt with me until seeing toy story 4 in theatres where I cried so hard over it I threw up in the cinema rubbish bin
My brother, let's call him Ludwig, bought a talking toy for his son, Ludwig Jr. Pretty soon it started annoying Ludwig Sr. so he grabbed it back, and started punching it where it's voice box probably was. Trying to mediate, or something I said, "You know, we can remove the battery?" but that apparently wasn't a viable option. He kept violently punching the innocent toy in front of his son, until it could no longer speak under its own power. Why am I telling you this story? IDK, there are worse things than accidentally breaking a toy. You could watch you father violently murder one in front of you. And, just for reference, Toy Story is possibly my nephew's favorite franchise... I don't know if he thinks toys are actually alive, but I do know he is a very traumatized young lad. -Also that CPS is worthless.-
I mean, the implication in the first scene is that, being Molly's oldest toy, she took up leadership of Molly's room the same way Woody leads Andy's room. And given that Woody has been her model for leadership for years, it makes sense that she leads like he does.
Omg your change with the girl having a stutter was so perfect, I was already thinking the girl being deaf could've been a clever solution but the stutter works so much better omg
Toy Story 3 absolutely fucking broke me as a child. I remember feeling ill watching the scene when they first meet the toddlers, breaking down in tears over the “She don’t love you no more!” part and the end scene. It may have been because I saw that movie during one of the worst parts of my life but every time I see it again now I don’t look back on it fondly. I don’t mean that I hate it though, I just mean that it’s…..oddly traumatising.
I know people will hate me for it, but that's precisely why Toy Story 3 is my least favorite of the franchise. I genuinely had fun with every other movie but that one just made me feel uncomfortable by how dark it was. Of course, I'll always love the ending and how touching it is, but everything else was just hard to watch honestly.
my problem with 4 is that in 1 buzz thinks he's a real human being. 2 he meets another buzz who thinks he's a real human being. H 3 he understand his mortality as an object that can be destroyed and reaches for his friends in his final moments 4 he doesn't know what a "conscience" is and is told by woody "it's the voice inside you that tells you what you are thinking". So he starts listening to the BuzzLightyearToTheRescue.WAV file that plays when he presses a button like it's the voice of god giving him instructions. He markedly devolves as a character into something he never was. What real human being that discovers he's a toy doesn't know the concept of conscience. Even Woody knows what that means. It's like if Luke in episode 6 said "Hey Han. I hear you talking about this thing called a space ship. What even is that?" He becomes dumb in a dumb way specifically so the writers can deus ex WAVina Buzz into doing whatever is convenient for the plot. he only finds them because the voice tells him to look up for a meteor shower and coincidentally sees woody jumping across rooves
Toy Story 4 fell into the trap that pretty much every franchise falls into when it has too many installments. The characters grew too much by the end of the 3rd movie for the new conflict to make any sense, so the writers extensively walked back their development and even basic abilities to justify making another sequel, ironically to its own detriment. Remember when Buzz taking his own features seriously was played as a joke in the first movie, precisely because he didn't know they weren't real? Now we're supposed to believe that he once again takes them at face value three movies later. It also makes no sense that he wouldn't know what this single word means when they literally all come to life with an innate understanding of language.
My wife and I had a detailed conversation after we finished TS4. They all should have went back to the little girl. Now the gang is separated and it just doesn't seem right. We liked the film but there was an overwhelming sense of disappointment.
And even if Bonnie wasn't currently playing much with Woody, I feel she would have noticed he was missing eventually and been upset. There's still some old toys from my childhood I lost during a move that I feel sentimental about. I'm in my thirties.
"Help! I'm a Fish!" Is actually a really, REALLY fun movie, for a kid's action movie. Beautiful animation, amazing voice acting, genuinely pretty funny - I like that movie so much.
@TheMadsC wild. I dont remember anything from the film, except the ending. I must've been like 5 when I saw it, but and I've held on to the memory for some reason I can't explain. From the way i remember it, it goes like this: the bad fish drinks The Juice That Makes You Human to be able to answer questions from the main fish, until they ask "kan människor andas under vatten?" ("can humans breathe under water?"), he takes another swig, answers "no" and then drowns. If this is incorrect, please don't correct me, I don't wanna know, I'm going to have to watch it tomorrow. I'm so amazed someone else also has had a similar experience to mine and even specifically remembers it being a fucked ending. Thank you for sharing that with me.
@@jeffiot that is EXACTLY how I remember it too. So I'm kinda tripping out over this shared memory of the ending specifically, haha. I wouldn't mind a video on that movie, even if for the second channel. It'd be fun to see your takes on an old classic. But I understand that you might not have time. Just throwing the idea out there. I'm actually currently re-watching your Final Destination video. I absolutely love your deep dives (no pun intended with the fish movie) into films and the lore or whatever. Generally just a big fan of your content and overall vibe. So glad Nightmind did a video on 10 Tapes (I'm high, so sorry if I got the name wrong), and that it let me to your channel and content. I'm loving all of it, haha.
@TheMadsC hey thanks a lot for all of that, I really appreciate it. and I'm actually planning on something small for the second channel akin to what you said, hoping to do that very soon!
Ya know, the video "Mustached man speaks of the Toy Story-franchise for an unreasonable amount of time, attempting to make sense of his own thoughts, sharing mad bibs-style free association-esque observations, with no guarantee of reaching any kind of satisfying conclusion" really reminds me of Hbomberguy, in the best way. Keep it up man, this shit is really good.
I've never wanted to pretend a film doesn't exist as much as I did Toy Story 4. You've captured everything that's wrong with it so well, but what's most incredible about this video are your changes to the ending. I genuinely will think of them, aka mentally replace them with that whole film, whenever I think about Toy Story. Thank you.
Also horrifying if you think that, only total and complete destruction can possibly end a toy's existence... Because, if all it takes is the act of being created with purpose, and played with, to breathe the spark of self awareness into the object, then that implies there's toys which were made in prehistoric times. Maybe, some of those still exist. Toys which literally existed around the same time of wolves being domesticated to dogs. Toys from actual ice ages. --- And surely, toys from antiquity. Toys which saw the rise of fall of empires. Perhaps even toys which had direct access to the family members of leaders which changed the course of their societies. There must be a wealth of immortal knowledge that, even if they themselves don't understand it's significance, we, would... The value to historians and scientists could not be given a price ... But, it's all walled off because they have a silly rule about not appearing animate in front of humans, oh well lol
To be fair, while all of that holds water, if living toys were present throughout all of human history, it goes without saying that history would be wildly different in ways that are difficult to even imagine. A 'toy' could serve as an immortal living record-keeper with a precision that, while perhaps not unerring, would allow the history of a tribe to remain within living memory effectively indefinitely. But more than that, imagine all the other things that a living inanimate object could be put up to in the right hands. Things like innocuous toy spies memorizing sensitive information from an inconspicuous shelf, or perhaps toy artisans that are immune to most human weaknesses (they do still seem to need to sleep if nothing else) stealing jobs in ancient history. And of course... there's also the inevitable question of 'what happens when people try to use this to kill one another?' Can a sword be a toy? How about a gun? If it has to be at least vaguely anthropomorphic, then how about a suit of armor? Is there a size limit? Could a full-sized tank be a toy? Aaand then you get a robot uprising, but with marketable action figures... actually wait they made a movie about that didn't they?
35:30 you have no idea how much this speech hit me. I'm currently 1 month and a couple days out of a break-up and hearing this made me stop and think. I won't get too far into the details, I just want to say thank you for including this. It's really making me think about my own life.
25:05 and THIS, THIS RIGHT HERE, is why i will personally never accept TS4 as canon. also, PET THAT FLOOFER edit: ahhhh fuck your fixed ending has made me cry and is now my new canon. the bit with Gabby's voice matching the kid's stutter is absolutely masterful.
It's my lunch time and I'm sitting in my car watching and listening and openly weeping as you describe your Toy Story 4 ending. Thank you for that. Thank you for "rambling on" for an hour before getting to the movie itself. You're genuine. Based on the explosion of subscribers, I'd say I'm not the only person who appreciates it.
I love your video specifically for the "take a health break" intermission. I say while specifically ignoring it and powering through, not because I don't think it important (it is, and constant watching of short form content makes it less likely people will take such breaks). No, I power through because I'm listening to this video while doing household chores.
One thing not a lot of people talk about concerning toy conciseness is the dinosaur people toys from the christmas special. Why were they like programmed to be part of a whole contained society with unique customs right out of the box
I always kind of interpreted it as toys made with intent. That buzz is made with the intent of being a toy tie in with a show, so is supposed to have a story. The barbies are just barbies, sure they have professions, but they don't have specific stories to them. And as forky came to life, bonnie was viewing him as trash, but something dear because she felt alone and "like trash". Her intent was what gave him life, but also set his values. This isn't actually canon, but how i remembered it after watching the movie.
I absolutely love your ability to remain totally deadpan and to keep up this really lofty analysis while your cat is literally smothering you. 😂 Now that I've watched the video: you have an intensely uncanny ability to speak directly to the heart of your audience and are able to make these wonderfully insightful, at times delightfully unhinged, synopsis of unexpected but nostalgic media. The dichotomies and the fun you have while making these videos really shows. I don't understand how it's possible that you haven't EXPLODED w content like this. I'm gonna have to spam creators I like who would love you and this. A collaboration between you and Love from H3 would be super cool, since you're both Swedish, creative, masters of deadpan and irony, and super online. ❤
Totally missed your edit when you first commented. Thank you so much for your kind words, I truly appreciate it. While I obviously don't want anyone to get spammed with my content, I always appreciate it getting shared and if any of my videos would get noticed by someone with a bigger platform that'd just be a delightful bonus. Thanks again for all your kind words :)
For the whole "why do the space toys think they're real" question, i believe that it just has to do with how the movies show us these different toys. All of the toys in the same line as buzz that we've seen in the movies were all freshly out of the box, while any other toy we've seen has been used for a while. Even with the barbies, its never really implied that they even THINK theyre real OR toys, they're not even in BOXES. Probably at some ppint in every toys life, they think that they're what they are, which is something that we do see in "toy story that time forgot", where the dinosaur toys believe that they're real due to not being played with.
45:16 Toy Story 4 bothers me, but not nearly much as this specific fever dream. I always assumed that the bizarre third act was just the producers having future designs on a Toy Story Cinematic Universe.
Holy shit, I screamed at the reveal that lost child had a stutter like Gabby Gabby's broken voice box, that's perfect Just the other day I was recounting Gabby's arc to an acquaintance who didn't know there was a Toy Story 4, and I completely forgot the detail that Gabby used her fixed voice box to call the kid's attention. But if I had, I also would have been mad about it.
My god. Your rant at the end made me have a MASSIVE panic attack. I was not expecting that. I was eating an ice cream cone and that should be the pinnacle of happiness but instead, it was me crying into said ice cream cone and hyperventilating. The fixed ending to the movie though was flawless! 10/10 :D
My favorite bit of this video was getting to the Final Thoughts monolog wherein our beloved narrator begs for that sweet embrace of death, and on the final impassioned "kill me"... TH-cam hits me with one of those fuckawful Temu ads. The raw unpredictability of how that hit honestly makes this an unprecedented masterpiece and elevates it in ways I don't know how to articulate. An utterly fantastic video made unimpeachably timeless.
Hi there! I came here from your jazz skull/skull trumpet video (Excellent work by the way!) so it's only the second one I've seen from you, and I'm commenting before finishing- but I just have to tell you after seeing your admission to your rather extreme alteration of your dinosaur toy and self-comparison to Sid; I recently watched a documentary about the making of the first toy story film and one of the animators themselves (I believe it might have been the lead animator?) said that Sid was the more relatable character for most of the animators making the film and that he was "the type of boy who will go on to become an animator", and I just couldn't believe how much you yourself reflect that statement since you used an animated avatar in your newer video and are just a creative content creator in general. Very interesting and charming, and something I felt you would enjoy knowing (if you hadn't seen that documentary already). Cheers! Keep on keeping on brother!
I wasn’t expecting to cry when I pressed on this video, but your tangent about breakups at the end of Toy Story 3 was beautifully written and spoken, and genuinely brought me to tears. Bravo man
The skipping voice is *chef kiss*. Having the girl stutter is even better, especially if Gabby's voice box is already set up as a foreshadow. This is my headcannon now. I'd forgotten the ending of the movie anyway.
Going into your final thoughts, it's crazy how much your analysis reminded me of Dark Souls. You, a toy, have the dark sign, cursed with undeath in an uncaring world. In the end, there are only two options: you can "link the fire", give yourself up [to a child], repeat the cycle, and rekindle the illusion the gods have abandoned. Or you can take the Lordvessel for yourself and become the new ruler over your grim reality (by becoming a 'lost toy'). The only other choice is not to choose; to become Hollowed out, resolved to be a shell of unmotivated, unfulfilled rubbish. ...I can't believe I'm comparing a Pixar film to a Fromsoft game, yet here we are 😂
It's like Godwin's law, but instead of discussions always ending in a comparison to Nazis, every piece of media inevitably gets compared to Dark Souls lol
something I like about the Toy Story franchise is how each movie explores new areas of thee world of toys. first movie: two different kinds of children's bedrooms, and a restaurant/arcade with toy prizes, second movie: toy store and collector's apartment, third movie: daycare centre, garbage dump, fourth movie: carnival, antique store
The scary part is that the toys have been aware of all of this since the beginning. Woody mentions a "plastic corrosion awareness" meeting in the first movie, presumably about how slowly plastic corrodes and the curse of near immortality all plastic toys bear.
I guess, I am the only one who never asked about "Why only Buzz toys didn't know they were toys?". Maybe because I thought that all "newborn" toys who recently became sentient think they are the real character, and realisation kicks in some time later, and everyone just lives on after that? Also, toys aren't alive at first, but then they "magically" become alive at some point as it was demonstrated with Buzz and Zorg in TS2? I dunno, my brain just made an explanation for this thing and I never questioned it =\
also, i dislike how buzz is so dumb in the 4th movie, the inner voice thing feels so different from how his personality was on the other movies, and also he always was a great leader, and now he feels unsure of how to do that? maybe it's just me great video!
yes! honestly my biggest gripe (and i have several) with TS4 is how they essentially lobotomized Buzz and turned him into a running gag for the entire movie. he was always my favorite, and the massive character development he went through in the first three movies was just.. completely scrapped??? i have no idea what the writers were thinking.
Hooooly shit that altered ending just hit me out of nowhere, I had no idea what kind of tiny change you could've made that would improve it so much, and given you prefaced the whole thing by saying you would barely even touch it, I didn't know what to expect. But the moment you delivered the stuttering line by the child, it all came crashing home and my eyes welled up instantly. GOD that would be SUCH a beautiful, subtle, thematically uplifting and emotionally satisfying way to affirm all the right things instead of leaving this backwards ableist implication that actually made it into the movie that "You need to be fixed to be loved". It's such a shame that that's all it would've taken to completely transform that character's conclusion, but I'm so glad I saw it done right here.
Got recommended your videos while at my job (janitorial) and ive been binging your videos since i clocked out (5 hours now). THIS is some high quality work, it seriously astonished me to see the view counts you get considering the sheer quality that you put in. Seriously, I’ve never been more invested in a patreon ad read, or for SMASHING the subscribe button. Instant sub, I’ll likely binge your work for eternity
I really love your alternative ending, especially the part where the doll with the broken sound box meets the stuttering kid. It's beautiful! Thank you for that! I Now I wish we could have gotten this ending.
Your alternate scenes and ending made my heart swell with emotions. I could just imagine how much more positively people would talk about TS4 if it were anything similar. It sucks how often movies arent fully polished because with projects like that, theres so many moving parts as 100s of people are pouring in their labor to make a movie. With tight deadlines and even tighter budgets, a lot of studios cant just rewrite whole stories and throw in new scenes 3/4th into production. Not to mention how many great ideas get shot down by executives, producers, and other higher ups who sometimes aren't fully invested into the movie's story, theme, characters, world, etc etc
one nitpicky thing i never really considered is what was woody up to in the 40something years between being produced and being given to andy given his arcs throughout the series i really doubt he had any kid before andy but if he was just kept in the box i imagine he would’ve been more sympathetic to the prospector there’s just a big Backstory Hole there
I love this channel, after finding it on the jazz Skelton video, I have been looking through your channel like a kid digging through a treasure chest finding cooler and cooler things. Thank you Mr. Sweden man
Of all the many times I've noticed "Gymnopedie" after being introduced to it as Kraehe's theme in _Princess Tutu,_ this might be the most elevated use of it, hitting me outta left field in the _Toy Story 3_ recap. Aside, that scene really was wild! Not since the interminably long cut to black in _Happy Feet_ did I think a kid's movie was actually _going there._
After countless hours of watching your content I can say, I love it so much. From Mystical Skull trumpets, to death rankings in horror movies, to burning Gävle Goats, SCP’s, I’m entranced by it all. Maybe from the writing. Or you voice. Whatever it is. You have a long time subscriber here from now to whenever you decide to stop doing this. I don’t know why I chose to say this over the “Toy Story” breakdown but no matter. You are incredible man! Keep up the amazing work!!
God, I even cried when you were reading your fixed ending. In fact, I cried both times, for both endings - GabiGabi's and the main ending. It's so brilliant, and I'm not even a Toy Story fan, just decided to watch a couple of your videos after the Trumpeting Skull one. I guess that video really blew up your channel... I'll watch a couple more and subscribe, I think. Your videos are great, I'm glad that the Algorithm finally noticed you
I don't think there is a single other Pixar Movie that has as little of a business existing as Toy Story 4. ...and I am saying this confidently knowing that "Finding Dory" and "Monsters University" are a thing. It just took a satisfying ending, completely burned it in front of our eyes and added nothing of importance in it's place.
Monster's University from what I've seen is an unnecessary prequel, but at least it's fairly harmless. Toy Story 3 was made out to be a conclusion to the series and then they dug it up to make another movie. A negative amount of necessity.
Finding Dory is actually filled with a surprising amount of heart, too. I found myself watching it in a long plane flight and now I'm glad it exists. It builds on top of the first movie, rather than just rehash it like some other unnecessary sequels (even if it feels a bit like a rehash from the premise and the first few minutes).
I'm not crying, you are!!! Really loved this video. Completely agree on the character growth (or lack there of) for BoPeep (but Disney has had many recent movies where they depend on your familiarity with the characters and not have any growth. I'm looking at you live action adaptations.) Your ending was beautiful, and will now be my personal ending. Better than the ending to 3, in my opinion.
1:11:54 This Gabby Gabby re-write was so sweet and perfect that it actually made me tear up. Wish this is the kind ending we got to the story in the film!
I haven't watched the movies in a long time, but my assumption was always that toys like Buzz are like that because they are plastic and electric, they are "programed" in a sense Woody and the others are usually made from natural materials or just plastic, so their identities are just slightly affected by their "origin" as cowboys, dinosaurs, piggybank, etc
1:05:35 movies don’t make me cry very often but toy story 4 DID make me cry…BUT FOR THE WRONG REASONS. You see, Woody is one of my major comfort characters throughout my whole life, a HUGE part of my identity up to this point was about how much I loved Pixar movies, ESPECIALLY Toy Story (and Monsters Inc., as well) and so Woody was a character who was VERY important to me, and a main source of comfort for the nearly 20 years I had been alive at the point when the 4th film came out. And then I went to the film, excited because not only was it a new Toy Story film, but I would get to see it with my best friend of 6 years who I was finally meeting in person for the first time-and then I ended up watching what essentially was the character assassination of one of my all-time favorite fictional characters. A character who was ever present in my life, a character I had actually even *crushed on* previously, a character who I thought I knew as well as the back of my hand, could pinpoint little aspects of his personality and describe them in detail, a character who was the basis of my very beliefs about loyalty in regards to friendships-and turned him into a complete stranger. If it wasn’t for the presence of all the other characters who I knew well (but not as well as Woody), I would wonder “is this even the same Sheriff Woody we’ve been following through all of these films?”. I felt betrayed. I felt hurt. Who was this man I spent nearly 2 hours watching on screen-because I didn’t know him. And when the credits began to roll…I cried. Like a little baby. Hell, because of this I’ve had a hard time revisiting the previous films-films that were some of my absolute favorites, because all I can think is “Well, what’s the point of that? He abandons them all in the end anyways.” I felt like Billy Joel at one of his concerts singing a love song about his ex-wife, when he finished the song, and slams out a discordant note, with an exasperated “but what do I know? We got divorced.” Because…what do I know? He left everyone behind in the end.
I think the film did exactly what it intended to do. People CHANGE. They change every single day. People move on. They find new things, they learn new things about themselves. The entire point of the movie is to learn to accept that everyone changes. They change at different points in time to other people and in different ways. I was one of the first of my friendship group to start a serious adult relationship. I bonded soooo much to Woody in Toy Story 4. All your friends thinking you're abandoning them but you aren't. It's time to change a bit. You can't go out and hang with them all day every day. There's stuff you need to do. Woody was an assissinated. He changed, he grew up, he learned what he needed. He learned that he needed to change for himself, not for other people. I feel the hate for Toy Story 4 comes from people who are so afraid to change. So afraid to understand that everyone will change. You will lose friendships for no reason, you will lose loved ones, you will change and not even notice. Life is hard. It's fucking hard. But you need to embrace that change.
Ackshuly there weren't any Star Trek toys in that movie! And Chekov's "gun" is called a phaser! I'm joking of course, great observation! 🧐 Sorry to troll you, but you spelled Chekhov wrong and I couldn't resist! 😅
Hey, I'll update this comment when I'm done with this video. Bur i wantws to throw in my own unwanted sentiment. The scene that always made me cry in Toy Story 3 (so much to the point where it is my least favorite + I refuse to watch the scene) was the scene where Lotso crushes the baby dolls heart. I dont remember it a lot (because, again, I refuse to watch it) but something about that was always gut wrenching to me. I dont know, just felt like crushing someone’s hopes, dreams, and heart. But, could be wrong since I barely remember Edit: Just finished the video. The stutter and GabbyGabby made me SOB and the after credit scene is just *chefs kiss*. You did absolutely perfect!
So, regarding Buzz thinking he's the actual Buzz Lightyear instead of a toy, I think any toy that's a specific individual will go through the same start, Jessie, Stinky Pete, Woody, all of them will have Buzz's experience. The Barbies are all unique individuals canonically, so they don't have to go through the "I am a toy" phase because they don't have a pre-existing identity they have to overwrite.
during the intermission you mention how pixar films often have universes based on the idea "what if [thing] was alive?" and i thought to myself "wow that's so right, so many are like that. elemental, toy story, cars, monsters inc, inside out, a bug's life" and i had to stop myself because , bugs already are alive. i recently rewatched the first movie in english (i'm norwegian) and damn you're right, the swedish "jag skall aldrig flyga igen" part hits harder than the original
that ending was the sweetest thing I've seen in a bit. Gabby having a stutter and the kid with the stutter finding each other, the proper goodbye, the continuation of the "toy story message", I would've absolutely have loved to see this in the actual film, it was so sweet and beautiful in a way. So thanks for that. :)
This was a great video essay, also THE SUGGESTED IMPROVEMENTS YOU HAD FOR THE NARRATIVE OF THE MOVIE ARE ABSOLUTELY PERFECT I LOVE THEM - LITERALLY THE BEST
The fixed ending was actually a tearjerker. I don't usually like fan fiction, but I reject the ending they gave us for this as canon. I'd say this movie represents the start of the long, slow, slide disney studios has been on for the last few years.
Thank you for that intermission, and thank you for an awesome video! Enjoyed it immensly, and picking it up after I actually had some good sleep was just what I needed. And the ending with Gabby Gabby having a stutter like the kid that finda her, and the interaction between Buzz and Wood is just... Yeah that would've been an amazing ending
Hjälp! Jag är en fisk is a certified BANGER! Are you familiar with the movie Samson & Sally? I thought that movie was a nightmare up until recently lol, highly recommend
@@jeffiot Mom told me that I used to rent it from the library SEVERAL TIMES despite it giving me nightmares! Some scenes really stuck with me haha! Great video btw!
"Help! I'm a fish" was one of my favorite animated movies when I was younger. I think it still holds up today, some of the animation definitely didn't age well but if someone decided to remake it with modern animation I'd be in theaters opening day
Why would woody's voice box output gabby's voice though? It would solve the whole icky implications, if Gabby had spoken in woody's voice, and the child had loved her anyways, even when she was flawed
Wait, it's still Woody's?? I hadn't watched the 4th film and I thought the implication was that the store owner eventually... idk, noticed the first child's disinterest in the doll and learned how to replace the batteries or something. So that she'd have a better chance at selling, with the benefit of being repaired. I don't know, that's how my brain made sense of it in 5 seconds with no context. Apparently that's more cohesive somehow..?
@@problemsfan4132 Woody surrenders his voice box to save Forky. It's just all around so much better if it played out the way I described, in my opinion. The lesson hits way harder and is way more meaningful
Don’t we see in the movie that they switch the tapes? So she just needs a working voice box that fits her voice tape, which Woody provides because they had the same manufacturer or something.
@justlurkingthrough6267 I don't think the exchange is really shown, it comes back to the characters after it has been transferred. But I don't think what the toys have is meant to be magnetic audio tape, the systems for both wouldn't have fit in. The little voice boxes in old toys were more like tiny enclosed vinyl records and players, to change the actual disk would require breaking apart the voice box
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Cowbotoy woody
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I hope there isn't a snake in his boot.
This segment was brilliant.
Timestamp is 45:50
I love how in every outro Jeff is like "wow you really watched that whole thing huh? I wasted that much of your time?" like nah man this shit is actually entertaining, keep it up.
That's very kind, thank you
@@jeffiotI agree
Andy's dog is named Buster.
Bo Peep really isn't a toy, she's a figure on a lamp makes you wonder WHAT is a classified as a toy and what can come to life. Woody mentions in 3, if they go sent to attic they could make friends with the Christmas decorations...you mean like the Santas, Elves, the angels, even the Nativity Scene, they're alive, too? or the phone in 3 who only talks if it you answer it/pick up the receiver.
That brings up a really interesting question of whether or not a sentient Jesus "toy" (figurine really, which is exactly what Bo Peep is) would know who Jesus is? Would they necessarily be a Christian themselves? Would they consider themselves blasphemous, but not be able to do anything about it given their immortality? Would their mind break as they realized the humans that surround them will be saved and go to heaven, but they, the actual image of God in human form himself, will be stuck on Earth for eternity?
@@shmunkyman33 I would expect a Jesus toy to be Jewish
@@shmunkyman33they’d likely think their the real Jesus, just like Buzz thought they were the real buzz.
Well the 4th movie with the living plastic fork says anything can be a toy. Probably something about the magic of imagination/children's love.
@@willyeeton4390i sure as hell loved my homemade pocketpussy when I was 12, so does sex toys also gain life ?
Your altered Gabby Gabby scene genuinely made me cry. I feel like that kind of story arc and "lesson" for her must have been the intent at some point im development but got lost somewhere along the way.
Agreed. That 45-second story reword elicited more emotion from me than anything in the actual film. It validates my feeling that my disdain for Toy Story 4 isn't just rooted in cynical adulthood; the script and direction really do feel half-finished.
I saw this comment before finishing the vid and was like yeah okay I'm not that into this franchise tho but then he said the part with the child stuttering and I got instantly teary-eyed 😭
No honestly, I wasn't expecting it and it felt like a gut blow with how sweet it was. Teary eyed at a Toy Story TH-cam video-- Would have been great in the actual film
The deep horror hinted at in this franchise has bothered me most of my life. I was about 11 when I saw Toy Story 3. The dump scene really hit me. I have had so many nightmares over the years about being a toy that got discarded. The idea of being a conscious entity trapped in confined area, unable to even die, possibly for centuries is horrifying. This is something the show Black Mirror explores with its episodes on making digital copies of human consciousness
Oh my god yeah, toy story messed me up hard as a kid, to the point I cannot donate my old toys without a full crisis about it.
I believe or at least hope they eventually hibernate or stop thinking if unused for a longer time. So it’s rather a long sleep than becoming crazy through decades of isolation.
...and I must scream.
I could see lots of kids growing up to be manic people who can't throw things out and become hoarders.
@@citruscirrus5607if it helps, the thought i always have is “well, i’m not loving and cherishing these toys anymore, but if i donate them, someone else could.” and i think people who get their toys from donations would probably be more likely to donate the toys themselves when they’re grown up, rather than just sending them to the dump. the toys will probably end up with people who will try to take good care of them & repair them rather than just throwing them out. i have OCD, so i totally get knowing that the toys are not alive and yet being too freaked out to get rid of them *just in case.* hope that helps :)
I have a hypothesis about why Buzz Lightyear toys start out the way they do. The boxes have a big quote on the back and if one Buzz is packed in behind another one, it will be stuck there reading about himself until taken out of the package. Maybe that's somewhat unique compared to other toys that would have more explicit "toy" imagery on their packaging.
Or because they all just have a backstory hammered into their brains. But from *where?* The act of making them? They're not that advanced. The collective belief that that's what Buzz Lightyear is/should be? Then could the backstory in each BL's head be changed if the public perception of the toy is changed or the backstory is reworked?
How far can I stretch this? If someone where to convince a vast majority of the public that the BL toys were dangerous for whatever reason, would their outlook change because of that? If there was a reboot, would the new BL toys all get a "backstory" in their heads that aligns with that? What about things like retcons or plot errors? Would those transfer over?
This might be even worse.
As a kid I thought that all toys had to go through a similar process of figuring out they’re toys but nah. Maybe it’s something to do with the Buzz personality? Maybe being a space ranger makes them perfectly ready to believe they’re on a strange planet no matter what toys they meet. Which to me if that’s true then the creators did that completely by accident. Which might have horrifying implications.
Here’s what keeps me up at night. What about the army men? In Toy Story 3 they nope out, state the war is over folks and move out… to where? Did they go through basic training? Is there a home base they are heading off too? A massive encampment run by militants toy soldiers waiting for deployment? And why where they let off the hook? Was only because woody is malignant narcissist who could handle being number 1 and the toy soldiers served his purpose? Re watching this with my kids has left me with too many unanswered questions
Here’s what keeps me up at night. What about the army men? In Toy Story 3 they nope out, state the war is over folks and move out… to where? Did they go through basic training? Is there a home base they are heading off too? A massive encampment run by militants toy soldiers waiting for deployment? And why where they let off the hook? Was only because woody is malignant narcissist who could handle being number 1 and the toy soldiers served his purpose? Re watching this with my kids has left me with too many unanswered questions
Here’s what keeps me up at night. What about the army men? In Toy Story 3 they nope out, state the war is over folks and move out… to where? Did they go through basic training? Is there a home base they are heading off too? A massive encampment run by militants toy soldiers waiting for deployment? And why where they let off the hook? Was only because woody is malignant narcissist who could handle being number 1 and the toy soldiers served his purpose? Re watching this with my kids has left me with too many unanswered questions
"The seven year olds today are just as old as you were when you were 7."
Wiser words have never been spoken.
"Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes"
@@ImaginaryAlchemistbig, if true
When I was very little, my grandfather pointed at me, then asked “Hey there, how old are you now?”
I’m 5, grandpa!
“When I was your age, I was 6.”
Lies, cuz 7 year olds today have had a very different upbringing than I had when it was 1999.
Your fixed ending is a masterpiece.
Wow, that's so nice. I'm glad someone liked it. I was pretty pleased myself, but you never know until you get it out in front of others.
motion seconded
Literally made me misty-eyed. Your ending is absolutely perfect. @@jeffiot
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all it does confirm ST4 really is that back and it not just this video, almost anyone could made better, version, (its the bit on the end) and when you watch credit roll, at the end TS4, not one person named there said anything? don't no the hole history but am sure the most be at some of them worked on all the ST films? and just said the the plot of TS4 is just *&^%$%^&
That fixed ending honestly made me cry multiple times. That was a masterclass of story telling and what you did with Gabby and the stuttering girl was beautiful. Whoever is working on the 5th needs to see this video ❤
There's a 5th?!!
@@20storiesunder My exact reaction after Pixar announced it.
@@uncledonel1742
Honestly, I personally feel like the series should've ended at 4; its a perfect ending to me!
...but, y'know...
...corporate greed is apparently better than creative storytelling...
When I was like 6 I broke a toys voice box by accident and held that guilt with me until seeing toy story 4 in theatres where I cried so hard over it I threw up in the cinema rubbish bin
My brother, let's call him Ludwig, bought a talking toy for his son, Ludwig Jr. Pretty soon it started annoying Ludwig Sr. so he grabbed it back, and started punching it where it's voice box probably was. Trying to mediate, or something I said, "You know, we can remove the battery?" but that apparently wasn't a viable option. He kept violently punching the innocent toy in front of his son, until it could no longer speak under its own power. Why am I telling you this story? IDK, there are worse things than accidentally breaking a toy. You could watch you father violently murder one in front of you. And, just for reference, Toy Story is possibly my nephew's favorite franchise... I don't know if he thinks toys are actually alive, but I do know he is a very traumatized young lad. -Also that CPS is worthless.-
@@Wendy_O._Koopa Wish your nephew the best...
@@Wendy_O._Koopa good lord???
@@Wendy_O._Koopathis story framed with your username and alias for your brother is giving insane vibes rn
Hope you two are ok jesus
I mean, the implication in the first scene is that, being Molly's oldest toy, she took up leadership of Molly's room the same way Woody leads Andy's room. And given that Woody has been her model for leadership for years, it makes sense that she leads like he does.
Omg your change with the girl having a stutter was so perfect, I was already thinking the girl being deaf could've been a clever solution but the stutter works so much better omg
Toy Story 3 absolutely fucking broke me as a child. I remember feeling ill watching the scene when they first meet the toddlers, breaking down in tears over the “She don’t love you no more!” part and the end scene. It may have been because I saw that movie during one of the worst parts of my life but every time I see it again now I don’t look back on it fondly. I don’t mean that I hate it though, I just mean that it’s…..oddly traumatising.
I know people will hate me for it, but that's precisely why Toy Story 3 is my least favorite of the franchise. I genuinely had fun with every other movie but that one just made me feel uncomfortable by how dark it was. Of course, I'll always love the ending and how touching it is, but everything else was just hard to watch honestly.
I think the cat begging for attention really drives the point home.
Yeah.
The whole time the cat has been on screen i’ve just been saying “cat cat cat cat cat” and i stopped actually paying attention to the video
@@AnEmu404
Same! He/She really steals the spotlight
I was screaming "GIVE THE CAT ATTENTION YOU MONSTER"
I don't know why but buzz saying "im having a fucking panic attack woody" was the most genuine laugh I've had in a minute. Thank you for that sir.
wow
whoa cowboy
No I laughed at that too fr fr
my problem with 4 is that in 1 buzz thinks he's a real human being.
2 he meets another buzz who thinks he's a real human being. H
3 he understand his mortality as an object that can be destroyed and reaches for his friends in his final moments
4 he doesn't know what a "conscience" is and is told by woody "it's the voice inside you that tells you what you are thinking". So he starts listening to the BuzzLightyearToTheRescue.WAV file that plays when he presses a button like it's the voice of god giving him instructions.
He markedly devolves as a character into something he never was. What real human being that discovers he's a toy doesn't know the concept of conscience. Even Woody knows what that means. It's like if Luke in episode 6 said "Hey Han. I hear you talking about this thing called a space ship. What even is that?"
He becomes dumb in a dumb way specifically so the writers can deus ex WAVina Buzz into doing whatever is convenient for the plot. he only finds them because the voice tells him to look up for a meteor shower and coincidentally sees woody jumping across rooves
The only thing I take away from this comment is that the plural of "roof" can also be spelled "rooves".
@@RainOrigami Deus ex WAVina
I agree completely. It felt like a different character entirely.
Toy Story 4 fell into the trap that pretty much every franchise falls into when it has too many installments. The characters grew too much by the end of the 3rd movie for the new conflict to make any sense, so the writers extensively walked back their development and even basic abilities to justify making another sequel, ironically to its own detriment.
Remember when Buzz taking his own features seriously was played as a joke in the first movie, precisely because he didn't know they weren't real? Now we're supposed to believe that he once again takes them at face value three movies later. It also makes no sense that he wouldn't know what this single word means when they literally all come to life with an innate understanding of language.
I agree; the MO of movies today is that a specific narrative be pushed, regardless of context. It just doesn't work that way.
You are so humble. The "little outro segment" as you call it being the most banger fan fiction ending to toy story is everything more than just that.
My wife and I had a detailed conversation after we finished TS4. They all should have went back to the little girl. Now the gang is separated and it just doesn't seem right. We liked the film but there was an overwhelming sense of disappointment.
And even if Bonnie wasn't currently playing much with Woody, I feel she would have noticed he was missing eventually and been upset. There's still some old toys from my childhood I lost during a move that I feel sentimental about. I'm in my thirties.
Maybe TS4 is about the friends we lost along the way
they should have taken gabygaby back to the little girl
You missed the entire point of the film.
Pixar needs to hire this guy, he made me feel more emotions with his version of the ending than the actual ending of Toy Story 4 did!
"Help! I'm a Fish!" Is actually a really, REALLY fun movie, for a kid's action movie. Beautiful animation, amazing voice acting, genuinely pretty funny - I like that movie so much.
how do i know youre not figment of my imagination, fueling my delusions of that movie ever existing
I remember "Hjælp jeg er en fisk". Not the full plot, but parts of it. Haven't rewatched it either. But I remember it had a fucked up ending.
@TheMadsC wild.
I dont remember anything from the film, except the ending. I must've been like 5 when I saw it, but and I've held on to the memory for some reason I can't explain.
From the way i remember it, it goes like this: the bad fish drinks The Juice That Makes You Human to be able to answer questions from the main fish, until they ask "kan människor andas under vatten?" ("can humans breathe under water?"), he takes another swig, answers "no" and then drowns.
If this is incorrect, please don't correct me, I don't wanna know, I'm going to have to watch it tomorrow.
I'm so amazed someone else also has had a similar experience to mine and even specifically remembers it being a fucked ending. Thank you for sharing that with me.
@@jeffiot that is EXACTLY how I remember it too. So I'm kinda tripping out over this shared memory of the ending specifically, haha. I wouldn't mind a video on that movie, even if for the second channel. It'd be fun to see your takes on an old classic. But I understand that you might not have time. Just throwing the idea out there.
I'm actually currently re-watching your Final Destination video. I absolutely love your deep dives (no pun intended with the fish movie) into films and the lore or whatever.
Generally just a big fan of your content and overall vibe. So glad Nightmind did a video on 10 Tapes (I'm high, so sorry if I got the name wrong), and that it let me to your channel and content. I'm loving all of it, haha.
@TheMadsC hey thanks a lot for all of that, I really appreciate it. and I'm actually planning on something small for the second channel akin to what you said, hoping to do that very soon!
Ya know, the video "Mustached man speaks of the Toy Story-franchise for an unreasonable amount of time, attempting to make sense of his own thoughts, sharing mad bibs-style free association-esque observations, with no guarantee of reaching any kind of satisfying conclusion" really reminds me of Hbomberguy, in the best way.
Keep it up man, this shit is really good.
I did NOT use that intermission to take a break i was lost in your eyes bro
I've never wanted to pretend a film doesn't exist as much as I did Toy Story 4. You've captured everything that's wrong with it so well, but what's most incredible about this video are your changes to the ending. I genuinely will think of them, aka mentally replace them with that whole film, whenever I think about Toy Story. Thank you.
Also horrifying if you think that, only total and complete destruction can possibly end a toy's existence... Because, if all it takes is the act of being created with purpose, and played with, to breathe the spark of self awareness into the object, then that implies there's toys which were made in prehistoric times. Maybe, some of those still exist. Toys which literally existed around the same time of wolves being domesticated to dogs. Toys from actual ice ages. --- And surely, toys from antiquity. Toys which saw the rise of fall of empires. Perhaps even toys which had direct access to the family members of leaders which changed the course of their societies.
There must be a wealth of immortal knowledge that, even if they themselves don't understand it's significance, we, would... The value to historians and scientists could not be given a price ... But, it's all walled off because they have a silly rule about not appearing animate in front of humans, oh well lol
To be fair, while all of that holds water, if living toys were present throughout all of human history, it goes without saying that history would be wildly different in ways that are difficult to even imagine. A 'toy' could serve as an immortal living record-keeper with a precision that, while perhaps not unerring, would allow the history of a tribe to remain within living memory effectively indefinitely. But more than that, imagine all the other things that a living inanimate object could be put up to in the right hands. Things like innocuous toy spies memorizing sensitive information from an inconspicuous shelf, or perhaps toy artisans that are immune to most human weaknesses (they do still seem to need to sleep if nothing else) stealing jobs in ancient history.
And of course... there's also the inevitable question of 'what happens when people try to use this to kill one another?' Can a sword be a toy? How about a gun? If it has to be at least vaguely anthropomorphic, then how about a suit of armor? Is there a size limit? Could a full-sized tank be a toy? Aaand then you get a robot uprising, but with marketable action figures... actually wait they made a movie about that didn't they?
Okay this is all fascinating as hell to think about.
But like, does this mean that the fertility idols ice-age humans be making also have sentience?
The real origin of haunted and cursed dolls 030
Shit there’s probably a toy that thinks like hitler after being alive for an unimaginably long time
@@limitbreak2966 And then there's the actual Hitler dolls.
35:30 you have no idea how much this speech hit me. I'm currently 1 month and a couple days out of a break-up and hearing this made me stop and think. I won't get too far into the details, I just want to say thank you for including this. It's really making me think about my own life.
hope you’re doing well as you can 🖖🏻💖🌻
🖐️ Also teared up at the fixed Gabby Gabby scene. Honestly INSANE an entire studio of people couldn't come up with that, it's so perfect.
25:05
and THIS, THIS RIGHT HERE, is why i will personally never accept TS4 as canon.
also, PET THAT FLOOFER
edit: ahhhh fuck your fixed ending has made me cry and is now my new canon. the bit with Gabby's voice matching the kid's stutter is absolutely masterful.
It's my lunch time and I'm sitting in my car watching and listening and openly weeping as you describe your Toy Story 4 ending.
Thank you for that. Thank you for "rambling on" for an hour before getting to the movie itself. You're genuine. Based on the explosion of subscribers, I'd say I'm not the only person who appreciates it.
I love your video specifically for the "take a health break" intermission.
I say while specifically ignoring it and powering through, not because I don't think it important (it is, and constant watching of short form content makes it less likely people will take such breaks). No, I power through because I'm listening to this video while doing household chores.
One thing not a lot of people talk about concerning toy conciseness is the dinosaur people toys from the christmas special. Why were they like programmed to be part of a whole contained society with unique customs right out of the box
I always kind of interpreted it as toys made with intent.
That buzz is made with the intent of being a toy tie in with a show, so is supposed to have a story. The barbies are just barbies, sure they have professions, but they don't have specific stories to them.
And as forky came to life, bonnie was viewing him as trash, but something dear because she felt alone and "like trash". Her intent was what gave him life, but also set his values. This isn't actually canon, but how i remembered it after watching the movie.
I absolutely love your ability to remain totally deadpan and to keep up this really lofty analysis while your cat is literally smothering you. 😂
Now that I've watched the video: you have an intensely uncanny ability to speak directly to the heart of your audience and are able to make these wonderfully insightful, at times delightfully unhinged, synopsis of unexpected but nostalgic media. The dichotomies and the fun you have while making these videos really shows. I don't understand how it's possible that you haven't EXPLODED w content like this. I'm gonna have to spam creators I like who would love you and this. A collaboration between you and Love from H3 would be super cool, since you're both Swedish, creative, masters of deadpan and irony, and super online. ❤
Totally missed your edit when you first commented.
Thank you so much for your kind words, I truly appreciate it. While I obviously don't want anyone to get spammed with my content, I always appreciate it getting shared and if any of my videos would get noticed by someone with a bigger platform that'd just be a delightful bonus.
Thanks again for all your kind words :)
I know for a fact I could not have refrained from petting the kitty cat. You sir, have an unbreakable will.
@@jeffiot this aged like fine wine, mister 37k!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
"somehow you tortuous existence will just work itself out" ye that's kinda been how i've lived my life for my 34 years here
I love how your cat is like "fine you wont pet me? I'll just use you to pet myself 😤" lol
For the whole "why do the space toys think they're real" question, i believe that it just has to do with how the movies show us these different toys. All of the toys in the same line as buzz that we've seen in the movies were all freshly out of the box, while any other toy we've seen has been used for a while. Even with the barbies, its never really implied that they even THINK theyre real OR toys, they're not even in BOXES. Probably at some ppint in every toys life, they think that they're what they are, which is something that we do see in "toy story that time forgot", where the dinosaur toys believe that they're real due to not being played with.
45:16 Toy Story 4 bothers me, but not nearly much as this specific fever dream.
I always assumed that the bizarre third act was just the producers having future designs on a Toy Story Cinematic Universe.
Holy fuck what a nightmare
Holy shit, I screamed at the reveal that lost child had a stutter like Gabby Gabby's broken voice box, that's perfect
Just the other day I was recounting Gabby's arc to an acquaintance who didn't know there was a Toy Story 4, and I completely forgot the detail that Gabby used her fixed voice box to call the kid's attention. But if I had, I also would have been mad about it.
My god. Your rant at the end made me have a MASSIVE panic attack. I was not expecting that. I was eating an ice cream cone and that should be the pinnacle of happiness but instead, it was me crying into said ice cream cone and hyperventilating. The fixed ending to the movie though was flawless! 10/10 :D
I read that as "the PINEAPPLE of happiness"
My favorite bit of this video was getting to the Final Thoughts monolog wherein our beloved narrator begs for that sweet embrace of death, and on the final impassioned "kill me"...
TH-cam hits me with one of those fuckawful Temu ads.
The raw unpredictability of how that hit honestly makes this an unprecedented masterpiece and elevates it in ways I don't know how to articulate. An utterly fantastic video made unimpeachably timeless.
Hi there! I came here from your jazz skull/skull trumpet video (Excellent work by the way!) so it's only the second one I've seen from you, and I'm commenting before finishing- but I just have to tell you after seeing your admission to your rather extreme alteration of your dinosaur toy and self-comparison to Sid; I recently watched a documentary about the making of the first toy story film and one of the animators themselves (I believe it might have been the lead animator?) said that Sid was the more relatable character for most of the animators making the film and that he was "the type of boy who will go on to become an animator", and I just couldn't believe how much you yourself reflect that statement since you used an animated avatar in your newer video and are just a creative content creator in general. Very interesting and charming, and something I felt you would enjoy knowing (if you hadn't seen that documentary already).
Cheers! Keep on keeping on brother!
I wasn’t expecting to cry when I pressed on this video, but your tangent about breakups at the end of Toy Story 3 was beautifully written and spoken, and genuinely brought me to tears. Bravo man
If woody went to Japan in toy story 2, it would end happily. Probably would end up in a scenario like night in the museum
I wonder what other toys are in the museum
The skipping voice is *chef kiss*. Having the girl stutter is even better, especially if Gabby's voice box is already set up as a foreshadow. This is my headcannon now. I'd forgotten the ending of the movie anyway.
Going into your final thoughts, it's crazy how much your analysis reminded me of Dark Souls. You, a toy, have the dark sign, cursed with undeath in an uncaring world. In the end, there are only two options: you can "link the fire", give yourself up [to a child], repeat the cycle, and rekindle the illusion the gods have abandoned. Or you can take the Lordvessel for yourself and become the new ruler over your grim reality (by becoming a 'lost toy').
The only other choice is not to choose; to become Hollowed out, resolved to be a shell of unmotivated, unfulfilled rubbish.
...I can't believe I'm comparing a Pixar film to a Fromsoft game, yet here we are 😂
It's like Godwin's law, but instead of discussions always ending in a comparison to Nazis, every piece of media inevitably gets compared to Dark Souls lol
something I like about the Toy Story franchise is how each movie explores new areas of thee world of toys. first movie: two different kinds of children's bedrooms, and a restaurant/arcade with toy prizes, second movie: toy store and collector's apartment, third movie: daycare centre, garbage dump, fourth movie: carnival, antique store
i couldn't focus AT ALL around the 26m mark because your cat is so goddamn cute. They love you very much 🥹🥹🥹
The scary part is that the toys have been aware of all of this since the beginning. Woody mentions a "plastic corrosion awareness" meeting in the first movie, presumably about how slowly plastic corrodes and the curse of near immortality all plastic toys bear.
Your end little downward spiral was genuinely amazing????? Just really well acted?
I guess, I am the only one who never asked about "Why only Buzz toys didn't know they were toys?". Maybe because I thought that all "newborn" toys who recently became sentient think they are the real character, and realisation kicks in some time later, and everyone just lives on after that? Also, toys aren't alive at first, but then they "magically" become alive at some point as it was demonstrated with Buzz and Zorg in TS2? I dunno, my brain just made an explanation for this thing and I never questioned it =\
also, i dislike how buzz is so dumb in the 4th movie, the inner voice thing feels so different from how his personality was on the other movies, and also he always was a great leader, and now he feels unsure of how to do that? maybe it's just me
great video!
yes! honestly my biggest gripe (and i have several) with TS4 is how they essentially lobotomized Buzz and turned him into a running gag for the entire movie. he was always my favorite, and the massive character development he went through in the first three movies was just.. completely scrapped???
i have no idea what the writers were thinking.
It's like Knuckles, he's not stupid, he just takes things seriously and can get weirdly theoretical. Also a feminist.
Hooooly shit that altered ending just hit me out of nowhere, I had no idea what kind of tiny change you could've made that would improve it so much, and given you prefaced the whole thing by saying you would barely even touch it, I didn't know what to expect. But the moment you delivered the stuttering line by the child, it all came crashing home and my eyes welled up instantly. GOD that would be SUCH a beautiful, subtle, thematically uplifting and emotionally satisfying way to affirm all the right things instead of leaving this backwards ableist implication that actually made it into the movie that "You need to be fixed to be loved". It's such a shame that that's all it would've taken to completely transform that character's conclusion, but I'm so glad I saw it done right here.
Got recommended your videos while at my job (janitorial) and ive been binging your videos since i clocked out (5 hours now). THIS is some high quality work, it seriously astonished me to see the view counts you get considering the sheer quality that you put in. Seriously, I’ve never been more invested in a patreon ad read, or for SMASHING the subscribe button. Instant sub, I’ll likely binge your work for eternity
ayy, props to anyone working in Janitorial jobs; ye are extremely under appreciated 🖖🏻🌻💖
I really love your alternative ending, especially the part where the doll with the broken sound box meets the stuttering kid. It's beautiful! Thank you for that! I Now I wish we could have gotten this ending.
Toystory 1 is anti Bionicle propaganda
The realest take yet
Your alternate scenes and ending made my heart swell with emotions. I could just imagine how much more positively people would talk about TS4 if it were anything similar.
It sucks how often movies arent fully polished because with projects like that, theres so many moving parts as 100s of people are pouring in their labor to make a movie. With tight deadlines and even tighter budgets, a lot of studios cant just rewrite whole stories and throw in new scenes 3/4th into production. Not to mention how many great ideas get shot down by executives, producers, and other higher ups who sometimes aren't fully invested into the movie's story, theme, characters, world, etc etc
I wasn't ready to cry at the end. Brillantly done. Both in the analysis and the end 'fixing'.
Me too lmao
I audibly gasped when you added the stutter plot to the ending. It is as devastating as it is beautiful.
Dude you’re channel is blowing up and you deserve it. You’ve inspired me I’m gonna dip my toes into doing what you do. It’s fucking awesome
Oki I subbed, looking forward to your rise
one nitpicky thing i never really considered is what was woody up to in the 40something years between being produced and being given to andy
given his arcs throughout the series i really doubt he had any kid before andy
but if he was just kept in the box i imagine he would’ve been more sympathetic to the prospector
there’s just a big Backstory Hole there
ive always assumed he was one of andys parents toys and was passed onto andy, which is why hes so protective of him.
I love this channel, after finding it on the jazz Skelton video, I have been looking through your channel like a kid digging through a treasure chest finding cooler and cooler things.
Thank you Mr. Sweden man
I need a Toy Story 37 where all of their plastic is brittle with age and they're just slowly disintegrating.
Of all the many times I've noticed "Gymnopedie" after being introduced to it as Kraehe's theme in _Princess Tutu,_ this might be the most elevated use of it, hitting me outta left field in the _Toy Story 3_ recap. Aside, that scene really was wild! Not since the interminably long cut to black in _Happy Feet_ did I think a kid's movie was actually _going there._
After countless hours of watching your content I can say, I love it so much. From Mystical Skull trumpets, to death rankings in horror movies, to burning Gävle Goats, SCP’s, I’m entranced by it all. Maybe from the writing. Or you voice. Whatever it is. You have a long time subscriber here from now to whenever you decide to stop doing this. I don’t know why I chose to say this over the “Toy Story” breakdown but no matter. You are incredible man! Keep up the amazing work!!
God, I even cried when you were reading your fixed ending. In fact, I cried both times, for both endings - GabiGabi's and the main ending. It's so brilliant, and I'm not even a Toy Story fan, just decided to watch a couple of your videos after the Trumpeting Skull one. I guess that video really blew up your channel... I'll watch a couple more and subscribe, I think. Your videos are great, I'm glad that the Algorithm finally noticed you
I don't think there is a single other Pixar Movie that has as little of a business existing as Toy Story 4. ...and I am saying this confidently knowing that "Finding Dory" and "Monsters University" are a thing. It just took a satisfying ending, completely burned it in front of our eyes and added nothing of importance in it's place.
Monster's University from what I've seen is an unnecessary prequel, but at least it's fairly harmless.
Toy Story 3 was made out to be a conclusion to the series and then they dug it up to make another movie. A negative amount of necessity.
Finding Dory is actually filled with a surprising amount of heart, too. I found myself watching it in a long plane flight and now I'm glad it exists. It builds on top of the first movie, rather than just rehash it like some other unnecessary sequels (even if it feels a bit like a rehash from the premise and the first few minutes).
I'm not crying, you are!!! Really loved this video. Completely agree on the character growth (or lack there of) for BoPeep (but Disney has had many recent movies where they depend on your familiarity with the characters and not have any growth. I'm looking at you live action adaptations.) Your ending was beautiful, and will now be my personal ending. Better than the ending to 3, in my opinion.
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This Gabby Gabby re-write was so sweet and perfect that it actually made me tear up.
Wish this is the kind ending we got to the story in the film!
I have to assume toys not understanding they're toys is a kind of neurodivergence.
Well no, because that can imply that they can just fuckn snap out of it at some point
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I haven't watched the movies in a long time, but my assumption was always that toys like Buzz are like that because they are plastic and electric, they are "programed" in a sense
Woody and the others are usually made from natural materials or just plastic, so their identities are just slightly affected by their "origin" as cowboys, dinosaurs, piggybank, etc
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That rare deleted scene was so REAL and NOT MADE UP so I will take the REAL FOOTAGE to heart and do what it said.
1:05:35 movies don’t make me cry very often but toy story 4 DID make me cry…BUT FOR THE WRONG REASONS. You see, Woody is one of my major comfort characters throughout my whole life, a HUGE part of my identity up to this point was about how much I loved Pixar movies, ESPECIALLY Toy Story (and Monsters Inc., as well) and so Woody was a character who was VERY important to me, and a main source of comfort for the nearly 20 years I had been alive at the point when the 4th film came out.
And then I went to the film, excited because not only was it a new Toy Story film, but I would get to see it with my best friend of 6 years who I was finally meeting in person for the first time-and then I ended up watching what essentially was the character assassination of one of my all-time favorite fictional characters. A character who was ever present in my life, a character I had actually even *crushed on* previously, a character who I thought I knew as well as the back of my hand, could pinpoint little aspects of his personality and describe them in detail, a character who was the basis of my very beliefs about loyalty in regards to friendships-and turned him into a complete stranger. If it wasn’t for the presence of all the other characters who I knew well (but not as well as Woody), I would wonder “is this even the same Sheriff Woody we’ve been following through all of these films?”. I felt betrayed. I felt hurt. Who was this man I spent nearly 2 hours watching on screen-because I didn’t know him. And when the credits began to roll…I cried. Like a little baby. Hell, because of this I’ve had a hard time revisiting the previous films-films that were some of my absolute favorites, because all I can think is “Well, what’s the point of that? He abandons them all in the end anyways.”
I felt like Billy Joel at one of his concerts singing a love song about his ex-wife, when he finished the song, and slams out a discordant note, with an exasperated “but what do I know? We got divorced.”
Because…what do I know? He left everyone behind in the end.
I think the film did exactly what it intended to do.
People CHANGE. They change every single day. People move on. They find new things, they learn new things about themselves.
The entire point of the movie is to learn to accept that everyone changes. They change at different points in time to other people and in different ways.
I was one of the first of my friendship group to start a serious adult relationship. I bonded soooo much to Woody in Toy Story 4. All your friends thinking you're abandoning them but you aren't. It's time to change a bit. You can't go out and hang with them all day every day. There's stuff you need to do.
Woody was an assissinated. He changed, he grew up, he learned what he needed. He learned that he needed to change for himself, not for other people.
I feel the hate for Toy Story 4 comes from people who are so afraid to change. So afraid to understand that everyone will change. You will lose friendships for no reason, you will lose loved ones, you will change and not even notice.
Life is hard. It's fucking hard. But you need to embrace that change.
Toy Story 3 has the greatest use of Chekov's Gun in film history.
Ackshuly there weren't any Star Trek toys in that movie! And Chekov's "gun" is called a phaser!
I'm joking of course, great observation! 🧐
Sorry to troll you, but you spelled Chekhov wrong and I couldn't resist! 😅
I thought the recap for 3 wouldn’t make me cry because I already knew what happened, but somehow you made it even more sad
man why i gotta cry
toy story 3 is one of the very FEW works of film that genuinely made me cry
your fix-it at the end had me legit tearing up. Great video man
Hey, I'll update this comment when I'm done with this video. Bur i wantws to throw in my own unwanted sentiment.
The scene that always made me cry in Toy Story 3 (so much to the point where it is my least favorite + I refuse to watch the scene) was the scene where Lotso crushes the baby dolls heart. I dont remember it a lot (because, again, I refuse to watch it) but something about that was always gut wrenching to me. I dont know, just felt like crushing someone’s hopes, dreams, and heart. But, could be wrong since I barely remember
Edit: Just finished the video. The stutter and GabbyGabby made me SOB and the after credit scene is just *chefs kiss*. You did absolutely perfect!
So, regarding Buzz thinking he's the actual Buzz Lightyear instead of a toy, I think any toy that's a specific individual will go through the same start, Jessie, Stinky Pete, Woody, all of them will have Buzz's experience. The Barbies are all unique individuals canonically, so they don't have to go through the "I am a toy" phase because they don't have a pre-existing identity they have to overwrite.
You have an incredible talent to make me cry. Grated, it doesn't take much, but dudeeee that ending. Jesus Christ, I wish you wrote it.
during the intermission you mention how pixar films often have universes based on the idea "what if [thing] was alive?" and i thought to myself "wow that's so right, so many are like that. elemental, toy story, cars, monsters inc, inside out, a bug's life" and i had to stop myself because , bugs already are alive.
i recently rewatched the first movie in english (i'm norwegian) and damn you're right, the swedish "jag skall aldrig flyga igen" part hits harder than the original
Your revised ending literally brought tears to my eyes. Stuttering Gabi and the little girl is perfection 💕
The rewrite you did for the ending is actually perfect. Literally made me cry, you should make movies if you don’t already.
Your kitty cat loves you so much, it's nice to see
that ending was the sweetest thing I've seen in a bit. Gabby having a stutter and the kid with the stutter finding each other, the proper goodbye, the continuation of the "toy story message", I would've absolutely have loved to see this in the actual film, it was so sweet and beautiful in a way. So thanks for that. :)
"How to unpack in just a few sentences" a 'few'must mean something different than I thought it did... but I'm here for your rants.
This was a great video essay, also THE SUGGESTED IMPROVEMENTS YOU HAD FOR THE NARRATIVE OF THE MOVIE ARE ABSOLUTELY PERFECT I LOVE THEM - LITERALLY THE BEST
The fixed ending was actually a tearjerker. I don't usually like fan fiction, but I reject the ending they gave us for this as canon. I'd say this movie represents the start of the long, slow, slide disney studios has been on for the last few years.
That Toy Story 3 incinerator scene makes me emotional every time. It's so frickin sad.
That ending - Your fixed ending got me ... 😢 😮
Beautifully done.
As someone who still uses a 4:3 CRT Monitor, I am very thankful that you rendered this in true 4:3
As a fellow old man, every point in this video hits home. Amazing work my guy, keep up the good work.
Your epilogue made me cry more than the actual movie. It was amazing.
you deserve 100x the amount of subs you have
the end changes made me cry, so incredibly sweet and such missed opportunities
thinking about the voice box one is making me tear up again🥲
Wake up babe new jeffiot
Thank you for that intermission, and thank you for an awesome video! Enjoyed it immensly, and picking it up after I actually had some good sleep was just what I needed. And the ending with Gabby Gabby having a stutter like the kid that finda her, and the interaction between Buzz and Wood is just... Yeah that would've been an amazing ending
an absolute delight as usual jeffo
Jeffiot: one of the best content creators to ever exist
I genuinely teared up the moment you started stuttering as the little girl. Bravo.
Hjälp! Jag är en fisk is a certified BANGER! Are you familiar with the movie Samson & Sally? I thought that movie was a nightmare up until recently lol, highly recommend
I just looked up samson & sally. while the name and the visuals do ring a very vague bell, I'm not sure if I've seen/heard about it before.
@@jeffiot Mom told me that I used to rent it from the library SEVERAL TIMES despite it giving me nightmares! Some scenes really stuck with me haha! Great video btw!
"Help! I'm a fish" was one of my favorite animated movies when I was younger. I think it still holds up today, some of the animation definitely didn't age well but if someone decided to remake it with modern animation I'd be in theaters opening day
Why would woody's voice box output gabby's voice though?
It would solve the whole icky implications, if Gabby had spoken in woody's voice, and the child had loved her anyways, even when she was flawed
Wait, it's still Woody's?? I hadn't watched the 4th film and I thought the implication was that the store owner eventually... idk, noticed the first child's disinterest in the doll and learned how to replace the batteries or something. So that she'd have a better chance at selling, with the benefit of being repaired.
I don't know, that's how my brain made sense of it in 5 seconds with no context. Apparently that's more cohesive somehow..?
@@problemsfan4132 Woody surrenders his voice box to save Forky.
It's just all around so much better if it played out the way I described, in my opinion. The lesson hits way harder and is way more meaningful
Don’t we see in the movie that they switch the tapes? So she just needs a working voice box that fits her voice tape, which Woody provides because they had the same manufacturer or something.
@justlurkingthrough6267 I don't think the exchange is really shown, it comes back to the characters after it has been transferred. But I don't think what the toys have is meant to be magnetic audio tape, the systems for both wouldn't have fit in.
The little voice boxes in old toys were more like tiny enclosed vinyl records and players, to change the actual disk would require breaking apart the voice box
That stuttring edit at the end actually made me tear up, that's fucking beautiful.