26:44 Yes, the cutoff is artificially limited. The default S282 goes from 5% cutoff in the middle to 90% in the corner; the duplexes in the mod go from 1% to 75%. 34:15 I am simulating it with a front end throttle, but the "steam chest" should still be bigger on the duplexes, because of how massive the branch pipes are. RIght now, the duplex simulates the same size "steam chest" as all the other S282's. I'm hoping to fix this in the next version of Rearranged S282 (although that update has other stuff that will take some time). That should make it a little easier to handle, because the steam chest pressure will react slower to changes in the throttle. edit: ah I've just gotten to 42:14, where Hyce talks about that last point. Yeah due to some technical limitations, right now the Steam Sim mod can't tell which arrangement an S282 is set to. I'm hoping to get that working though at some point. edit 2: 48:16 that stepped throttle is a neat idea. I was hoping something like that existed, cause the S282 needs it, but couldn't find any info about it online. Might have to put that into the mod.
Cheers once again my friend, love everything you've made this far. Excited to see what's next. I'm always just a discord DM away if you have questions.
To Hyce, ES&D CDO Fees and fines cost are at the end of your shift is 527,120.35 dollars. We appreciate it if you pay your copay of 266,481 dollars. This is your second warning. Please pay off your fees and fines. Derail Valley Debt Collector, John Doe
Ah yes, the coal mine. The place I ran my S1221 with an excavator train into doing 150km/h and with Thundering Down Track playing in the background. It was hilarious to say the least.
To Hyce, Thank you for trying out the newest of the ES&D Duplex Locomotive, just the other day we got a request from the ES&D Passenger Corporation and they were requesting for the next time use of the Duplex to pull a nice heavy regional passenger train. Signed, T.C, Derail Valley Passenger CEO
I would be full Jeremy Clarkson mode doing this job in DV. The locomotive would be struggling to gain traction and instead of adjusting the throttle and reverser I'd be yelling at the locomotive "COME ON! GET MOVING YOU VICIOUS BASTARD!" even though everything going wrong is due to my own hubris.
To Hyce, Here in the shops we dont appreciate how long you go without servicing the heritage fleet. Our antique equipment needs proper service EVERY DAY!! John Doe will be on our case if we have to keep scrapping parts. Thank you for your cooperation. -Broo Tarquin Heritage fleet mechanical foreman
ES&D: ok so how fast should we go? Hyce: as fast as we can before we crash in the most funny awkward way possible? ES&D: there you go now you got it Hyce on the mainline: B E A N S
11:43 well unless you specifically use Sloppy Shunters mod that makes random f ups with consists generated on station as: air is not connected, chains are not connected, handbrakes are tied up *somewhere* and not on the ends of your consist. While it do sounds like ES&D shunting work, it could be tedious however.
Hyce the phrase you were thinking of is “If at first you don’t succeed, skydiving isn’t for you”. Also could you imagine what 70000 dollars worth of sand looks like
31:10 "Hey look, we have a flashlight this time! Can you believe that?" *_Proceeds to pocket it while still on_*_ (that's a good way to run down the battery)_
The duplex, slipperiest of them all! a 4 cylinder (especially if its a compound) 2-8-2, 4-8-4, or 2-10-2 just makes so much more sense than a 4-4-4-4. even a 3 cylinder 4-8-4 seems like the better option. Saves millions of dollars on sand!
See, treast her right, and she works for you. Just had to dress her up a bit. "This is the stupidest way to do this..." Mark, how many times have you said the fun part about playing these games is you can do the stupidest things. This the ES&D (trying), where we die like men! LOL And I imagine that cab is stinking of kerosene with how many times that lantern has fallen off that shelf.
The comment about oh no immediately made me think of I love toy trains OH NO segments along with the buster segments that had the little jingle. Boom boom, ain’t it great to be crazy Boom boom ain’t it great to be nuts Silly and foolish all the day long Boom ain’t it great to be nuts
I can see in some sci-fi setting that through the use of reprogramable nanotechnology some eccentric businessman would dabble in ancient steam locomotives and could do just that and more. Imagine switching from an American 4-4-0 to a 4-8-8-4 Big Boy with a press of a button.
@@Hybris51129 conservation of mass would be an interesting puzzle to solve in such large transformations, though perhaps they happen to carry around a car or two of scrap metal for the nanomachines to play with?
I thought I remember reading that the PRR T1 had a nasty habit of slipping her feet, the S1 was even worse. Though I REALLY wish they had preserved both the S1 and at least 1 T1. The T1 trust is building one from scratch though.
I think it's kinda funny to watch this and look at the sand gauge and realize it's empty way before Hyce does. No wonder it's constantly slipping, right Hyce? Edit: 40:52 I can say for certain that interaction speed in VR is not perfect, it's does leave a bit to be desired, and, in my opinion, in an attempt to simulate the force required, they made it feel a bit too unresponsive when you're trying to make small, quick movements. Either I move too many trying to get one notch, or I really have to move my hand in order to get one notch out of the throttle
9:35 - try ropes on the controls? =P 12:50 - sand? On the switches? You've annoyed station crews enough, now it's MOW's turn? 🤣 37:50 - ooor you could run via the harbour, now that you got a feel for getting this train up big slopes xD 54:15 - oh cool, so we're probably not seeing the re-occuring random performance issues ever again
RE Encoder switch: IIRC you have an AMD GPU? It does look better but there are bitrate issues. I think you may be set to a lower bitrate than is optimal for that GPU. If you have an Intel cpu with a built in iGPU you can still use that to do the encoding (it's the intel GPU not the CPU doing the work via Quick Sync Video). Otherwise it looks good, it's very hard to tell with the darkness, but there were very obvious blocks in the darker area of the video where it was just massive chunks of low bitrate artifact. But let me be clear... where there was more dynamic range things looked a LOT better, no more 16bit trees. I also suspect you could turn up the settings on the game a bit too.
For some reason after the obs fix I went to check my resolution for the video and it was forced to 480p and couldn't go higher yet it still looked good somehow Edit: nevermind fixed itself
Eyh. Hyce, Take care on you trip be carfull. Hope your trip is a good one. I'll super chat next time your back home. 1120 tons and a crowbar ❤️🌹🙏🦜🦜🦜🎶🎸🪕🚂🚂🚂🚂🦜😍🔥🌛🌜🚂😅
I will send a clean up crew to take care of any evidence as stated in paragraph 4. Thank you for using YOU SAW NOTHING Services Where we take pride in decriminating our clients and making things right for happy accidents. The bill will be in the mail. We look forward to your future business
54:22 you…you mean…you mean I bought a new computer with better graphics card for nothing??? I can PLAY DERAIL VALLEY WITH CPU FUCK MY MISSING 2K DOLLARS 💸 sorry xcuse my language
26:44 Yes, the cutoff is artificially limited. The default S282 goes from 5% cutoff in the middle to 90% in the corner; the duplexes in the mod go from 1% to 75%.
34:15 I am simulating it with a front end throttle, but the "steam chest" should still be bigger on the duplexes, because of how massive the branch pipes are. RIght now, the duplex simulates the same size "steam chest" as all the other S282's. I'm hoping to fix this in the next version of Rearranged S282 (although that update has other stuff that will take some time). That should make it a little easier to handle, because the steam chest pressure will react slower to changes in the throttle.
edit: ah I've just gotten to 42:14, where Hyce talks about that last point. Yeah due to some technical limitations, right now the Steam Sim mod can't tell which arrangement an S282 is set to. I'm hoping to get that working though at some point.
edit 2: 48:16 that stepped throttle is a neat idea. I was hoping something like that existed, cause the S282 needs it, but couldn't find any info about it online. Might have to put that into the mod.
Cheers once again my friend, love everything you've made this far. Excited to see what's next. I'm always just a discord DM away if you have questions.
@@Hyce777 and I like everything you make!
Noooo, I don't know how trains REALLY work!!!
To Hyce,
ES&D CDO
Fees and fines cost are at the end of your shift is 527,120.35 dollars. We appreciate it if you pay your copay of 266,481 dollars. This is your second warning.
Please pay off your fees and fines.
Derail Valley Debt Collector,
John Doe
What is the cumulative cost to the insurance company vs how much he’s paid so far?
@@rianfantozzi7827 way to much. It will be told soon(tm)
Ah yes, the coal mine. The place I ran my S1221 with an excavator train into doing 150km/h and with Thundering Down Track playing in the background. It was hilarious to say the least.
To Hyce,
Thank you for trying out the newest of the ES&D Duplex Locomotive, just the other day we got a request from the ES&D Passenger Corporation and they were requesting for the next time use of the Duplex to pull a nice heavy regional passenger train.
Signed, T.C, Derail Valley Passenger CEO
That we can arrange!
I would be full Jeremy Clarkson mode doing this job in DV. The locomotive would be struggling to gain traction and instead of adjusting the throttle and reverser I'd be yelling at the locomotive "COME ON! GET MOVING YOU VICIOUS BASTARD!" even though everything going wrong is due to my own hubris.
Reminds me of when I play railroader & I just yell at the train to stop instead of applying more brakes.
To Hyce,
Here in the shops we dont appreciate how long you go without servicing the heritage fleet. Our antique equipment needs proper service EVERY DAY!! John Doe will be on our case if we have to keep scrapping parts. Thank you for your cooperation.
-Broo Tarquin
Heritage fleet mechanical foreman
ES&D: ok so how fast should we go?
Hyce: as fast as we can before we crash in the most funny awkward way possible?
ES&D: there you go now you got it
Hyce on the mainline: B E A N S
rearranged s282 mod and zeibach's couplers mod have completely changed how I play the game and I love it.
11:43 well unless you specifically use Sloppy Shunters mod that makes random f ups with consists generated on station as: air is not connected, chains are not connected, handbrakes are tied up *somewhere* and not on the ends of your consist. While it do sounds like ES&D shunting work, it could be tedious however.
Hyce the phrase you were thinking of is “If at first you don’t succeed, skydiving isn’t for you”.
Also could you imagine what 70000 dollars worth of sand looks like
31:10 "Hey look, we have a flashlight this time! Can you believe that?"
*_Proceeds to pocket it while still on_*_ (that's a good way to run down the battery)_
wait that's a thing
@@Hyce777 I think so
After the switch to GPU encoding, it does look noticeably smoother.
50:20 Hyce when you said that an add popped up and it said “Get educated”
The duplex, slipperiest of them all! a 4 cylinder (especially if its a compound) 2-8-2, 4-8-4, or 2-10-2 just makes so much more sense than a 4-4-4-4. even a 3 cylinder 4-8-4 seems like the better option. Saves millions of dollars on sand!
FINALLY, someone said it, 3 cylinder supremacy!
See, treast her right, and she works for you. Just had to dress her up a bit.
"This is the stupidest way to do this..." Mark, how many times have you said the fun part about playing these games is you can do the stupidest things. This the ES&D (trying), where we die like men! LOL And I imagine that cab is stinking of kerosene with how many times that lantern has fallen off that shelf.
Fair... Lol!
I wonder what would happen if the D&RGW made a narrow gauge K-47... Also, hello from the Riverclan & Rio Grande Atlantic
2nd half of the video looked great please keep recording that way.
The comment about oh no immediately made me think of I love toy trains OH NO segments along with the buster segments that had the little jingle.
Boom boom, ain’t it great to be crazy
Boom boom ain’t it great to be nuts
Silly and foolish all the day long
Boom ain’t it great to be nuts
You've run front end throttle... 7597.
I knew I was forgetting something! Lol.
Hyce: OH NO
Me: it’s not an o gauge sd45, but with Hyce around, anything can become Buster
nightvision goggles would be a funny easter egg to be able to purchase in derail valley ngl
7:00 servicing from the career manager always puts the choo choo back to "cold and dark" except for the amount of steam stored up for some reason.
So bets on Kenosha playing more than once?
1:04:26 an advertisement popped up again and offered you a free masterclass, Hyce
we need some markiplier animated shorts of highlights from these those would be funny
imagine if in the real world changing your wheel arrangement took a wireless radio controller instead of a lengthy rebuild
I can see in some sci-fi setting that through the use of reprogramable nanotechnology some eccentric businessman would dabble in ancient steam locomotives and could do just that and more. Imagine switching from an American 4-4-0 to a 4-8-8-4 Big Boy with a press of a button.
@@Hybris51129 conservation of mass would be an interesting puzzle to solve in such large transformations, though perhaps they happen to carry around a car or two of scrap metal for the nanomachines to play with?
@@briannem.6787 That would be likely the cleanest way to do it without increasing the density of the various parts on smaller locomotives.
23:55 Figuring out that fixing the choo choo makes it work better is exactly what I expected
I thought I remember reading that the PRR T1 had a nasty habit of slipping her feet, the S1 was even worse. Though I REALLY wish they had preserved both the S1 and at least 1 T1. The T1 trust is building one from scratch though.
*throws limes at Hyce for all the random references and one-liners*
I think it's kinda funny to watch this and look at the sand gauge and realize it's empty way before Hyce does. No wonder it's constantly slipping, right Hyce?
Edit: 40:52 I can say for certain that interaction speed in VR is not perfect, it's does leave a bit to be desired, and, in my opinion, in an attempt to simulate the force required, they made it feel a bit too unresponsive when you're trying to make small, quick movements. Either I move too many trying to get one notch, or I really have to move my hand in order to get one notch out of the throttle
Life's hard, lol!
dont recall if you have military license. you coyld have run something there and then ran light from there to coal mine i believe
That long pause in the music just before you first pulled away, I was just waiting for it to Smell Like Kenosha 😅
Hyce is going to forget he lined the switch differently next time he goes to the harbor. At least that's what i did when i ran that route.
9:35 - try ropes on the controls? =P
12:50 - sand? On the switches? You've annoyed station crews enough, now it's MOW's turn? 🤣
37:50 - ooor you could run via the harbour, now that you got a feel for getting this train up big slopes xD
54:15 - oh cool, so we're probably not seeing the re-occuring random performance issues ever again
*THE PENNSYLVANIA RAILROAD* would like to know your location.
23,92846° S, 130,74212° O ( not real location just for the joke )
So I'm understanding from this talk about insufficient control fidelity is that there is a need for a custom Derail Valley SH282 simrig?
Duplex looks fun! Also I checked and its U and J for automatic brake and I and K for independant
Also P and ; for handbrake. Hope it helps!
Last time I was this early, steam trains were not bombs on wheels!
I'm a little surprised you didn't go for the 2-4-4-2, but this was more entertaining anyways :P
Factor of adhesion 3.3? That's a measure of how many millimeters of grease is on top of the rails right?
Lmao, basically
Great video as always. video does look better after that gpu setting change.😂
you dont need blower when you have wheelslip
on the east salida & denver
the trains here makes such a bender
in a way games may not render
and the tracks may surrender :)
RE Encoder switch: IIRC you have an AMD GPU? It does look better but there are bitrate issues. I think you may be set to a lower bitrate than is optimal for that GPU. If you have an Intel cpu with a built in iGPU you can still use that to do the encoding (it's the intel GPU not the CPU doing the work via Quick Sync Video). Otherwise it looks good, it's very hard to tell with the darkness, but there were very obvious blocks in the darker area of the video where it was just massive chunks of low bitrate artifact.
But let me be clear... where there was more dynamic range things looked a LOT better, no more 16bit trees. I also suspect you could turn up the settings on the game a bit too.
@Hyce777 shortcut keys for throttle are t and g for the reverser y and h for independent i and k and for auto u and j
54:30 I think it looks better😊 *edit* It looks f$%^$#@ incredible now, like I cleaned the vaseline off of my glasses.
yer, the cab texture its hard to tell, but the outside views, and especially the looking round look infinitely better
For some reason after the obs fix I went to check my resolution for the video and it was forced to 480p and couldn't go higher yet it still looked good somehow
Edit: nevermind fixed itself
Jeremy clarkson: "running a duplex locomotive in derail valley. How hard can it be?"
is there any estimate to when you and kan will play the game you are making?
pretty sure hyce paid more to repair the choochoo than the job paid for
To hyce from a breakman we need a video of tying down a hand break before i have 7 fingers i only have 8 until my gift runs out
Duplex are very situational
Whoop! Learning still happening for a Big TH-cam channel!?! Whaaaat? lol
I don't think there's a single person from the DV discord who doesn't know you hyce, especially in the modding team 😅
nice locomotive
This episode is jam packed with references 😂 can we find them all?? 🤭
Let's go!
Eyh. Hyce, Take care on you trip be carfull. Hope your trip is a good one. I'll super chat next time your back home. 1120 tons and a crowbar ❤️🌹🙏🦜🦜🦜🎶🎸🪕🚂🚂🚂🚂🦜😍🔥🌛🌜🚂😅
What is that song the video opens with?
!!!BIG BOY IMMINENT!!! SOY ACTIVATED!!! :fist: fist: fist:
I'd fix the emojis but it's probably funnier like this
@@KarolOfGutovo I imagined that was the sound of the chuffs.
25:24 this time with gloves
I wish they had a version of this that ran natively on a quest 3 rather than pcvr
Have you already heard the carnage in mexico
I don't smell any Kenosha here, but it's only coal from the mines. I don't know, i got bored 🤷♂️
I wish the shay mod was back
Me too
@@Hyce777Shay's are wonderous beasts, sound like they're going 100 mph when doing 25.
I will send a clean up crew to take care of any evidence as stated in paragraph 4.
Thank you for using YOU SAW NOTHING Services Where we take pride in decriminating our clients and making things right for happy accidents. The bill will be in the mail. We look forward to your future business
i hear new music round about 5:45 ish
What happened? You didn't stack it at all. 😢 Mega explodie bois next please 🙏
can we see steam and steal back on the channel
Sad N&W 1218
54:22 you…you mean…you mean I bought a new computer with better graphics card for nothing??? I can PLAY DERAIL VALLEY WITH CPU FUCK MY MISSING 2K DOLLARS 💸 sorry xcuse my language
*TheMilwaukeeRoad-*
no
@@QuincyO5b yes