honestly, if its too hard to get together in person, a video call based 3/4 show season with face cams for each of you works for me. like you can't lime each other but other than that it seems like it would still be the typical fun, nerdy idiocy that we all love to watch.
Plot twist: the fastest steam locomotive was some poor logging shay, running away down a hill, with all its running gear in orbit, moments before flying off a cliff.
Please please please make more of this style content! 🙏 Ive been sad to loose all the old tech tree videos, and hearing you nerds debate the merit of locomotives is honestly what I'm here for. The more passionate, yet simultaneously against each other and their opinions you can be, the better the content. As a side benefit to hilarity, we all get the benefit of learning history and facts about the equipment, so I definitely cant complain.
@@lizzyobrien2376If I had to venture a guess, it's like to due A, not being affiliated with Railroads Online anymore, B, creating Century of Steam while having videos of Railroads Online development may have a bit of conflict of interest, and C, the biggest reason in my opinion, saltiness.
honestly love this addition to the 3/4 show lineup, your dynamics are so much fun that I'm down for more casual (and hopefully easier for you guys to put together) videos to tide us over between the main 3/4 seasons
Would love to see more of these. Two suggestions-british engines and different classes/designs with the same wheel arrangements, like as many 2-4-0s as you can find.
Oh, yes, I want to see Mark's opinion of the Bavarian Pt 2/3 (later DB Br70) 2-4-0s! Especially the part where the front axle is fixed, and the part where it had a door in the back of the cab so the fireman could also work as the conductor on light passenger trains. And of course the obvious part where it looks like a 2-6-0 that someone left in a bad neighborhood and had the front drive axle stolen.
Love the new flavor of 3/4 content! Definitely would like to see a tier list on surviving grande stuff, as well as a superpower list across all the railroads in the US. It would be interesting to see how you rank big choo choo against big choo choo
Always love hanging out with the 3/4 crew, and this was a fun introduction to the new format (and presumably a bit easier as it didn't require everyone being in the same physical space). Love the idea of doing all the preserved Colorado narrow gauge locos, especially as a good excuse to tell potted versions of their stories (C&S #9 at Georgetown Loop is a classic). As for other ideas, what about ranking Colorado narrow gauge railroad companies? Or bringing Jersey back for Ranking Tourist Railroads 2.0?
19:52 I thought for sure Leighton's argument for S Tier would be: "If we don't put the K-37 at the top, Peaches will unalive us or worse, refuse to steam or otherwise f*** with us mid-event." Hopefully she has enough awareness of her own flaws to be content with A Tier. I love this format. I learned more about the K's than ever before. I would change only one thing: a fair amount of the appeal of the 3/4 show is that we can see everyone's w-t-f facial expressions. Would the other half of the idiot be prepared to spin up their cameras? Thanks for the silly video. I would love to see a tierlist video of the running-in-preservation choochoos.
This format is absolutely hilarious. Might be fun listening to you lot ripping into Canadian narrow gauge. A good few 3'6" gauge wood burning double Fairlies for Hyce's enjoyment...
I wonder if the Mexican steam helpers on the electric railroad were used because the capacity of the generating plant and transmission lines wasn't enough to supply a train with electric helpers.
Long ago in a Great Lake State far away (1983-1985, Michigan), I worked on the restoration of 464 at the Huckelberry railroad with its wonderful Rushton trailing truck. The bar across the top of the box with pin ends that support the swing hangers was worn to essentially a crank pin shape. The shop supervisor sent it out to be built up with weld and the ends ground cylindrical. We put the trailing truck back together with new pins and bushings and tapered bolts and put it back under the locomotive. The locomotive at this point was a 2-0-2 with all the drivers removed for tire turning or replacement. At this point we needed the drop pit 464 was over to work on the 2 (Alaska Engineering Commission 152). As we were moving 464 to the adjacent track using Porter diesel 1203 (before its engine transplant) there was a disturbingly loud bang. One of the pin ends that had been welded up let go giving the 464 a decided list to starboard. The engine was gingerly returned to its original position and quickly blocked up before dropping the trailing truck. Things were delayed for a week, or so, as new parts were slowly turned to create the end pins and bored for the box locating pin.
@@royreynolds108 I think I started in October. I do remember you. Carl later ended up on the Strasburg as an engineer, but I haven't seen him since sometime in the 90s.
I'd say def do one on surviving Rio Grande narrow gauge engines. Also, doing other narrow gauge stuff (SPNG and EBT come to mind) would be cool. But honestly one could get into the weeds of "Now lets do all the Rio Grande standard gauge" or "Lets do all the surviving 4-8-4s," extremely easily lol.
Yeah to another 3/4 Show! I really liked this format, Mark for seeing how the rankings were assigned. As I continue to learn more about the DRG it was interesting to see all the classes put up on the screen and have you Mark, Brett and Leighton compare them. So fun to hear you all discuss the good, bad and ugly for us. I learned much from this and had quite the giggle too! Yes, Mark please do this for other railroads; like you guys said, would make for spirited, excellent conversation and learning! As always, many thanks Professor for another fabulous 3/4 episode. Cheers to you guys!
4:00 - That whole "bicycle on a loco that broke down especially often" thing is great. I think I have to submit this as a suggestion for improvement 🤣 24:50 - Nah, "der Wagen" was correct :D 27:15 - I'll admit the 42.5 just looks like a generic, prototypical early American steam loco to me 🤣 I think it's cute.
about the "trailing truck", the Cartazzi (as used often by Gresley) is a radial truck, which means the hornguides move the angled axleboxes in an arc, so it essentially acts like a bissel pony truck which has its pivot much more forward than could be done with a normal bissel. Its also very stable because the springs are very far away from each other and do a good job of centering the axle.
What another awesome 3/4 show episode man, I really enjoyed this video, i think more locomotive tier list would be very interesting to see, i was thinking why not try to do standard gauge Rio grande railroad Steam locomotives or locomotives in general from the standard gauge Rio grande. Anyways Mark i hope you have a kick ass weekend 🤟🏼😎
Here’s a couple of ideas, how about a tier list of Tenwheelers that lasted into the 1940s/50s? Or 4-8-4 tier list? Or 1st gen diesel road and switcher power?
Other ideas for tier-listing: 1. Ranking US narrow gauge railroads 2. Ranking US narrow gauge tourist railroads (a smaller version of the above, but looking specifically at the tourist op part). 3. Ranking narrow gauge mikados, possibly by class. I count 4 classes on the Grande, 1 on the Oahu, 2 on the Sumpter Valley, 3 on the Broad Top, 2 on the Uintah, and 4 on the White Pass (of which 1 came from the Grande and 1 from the Sumpter Valley). You could also throw in Canadian and Central American ones if you wanted, I guess. 4. Ranking preserved Grande NG steam locomotives.
@@AshCatTrainz No no, not "every US narrow gauge steam locomotive", just the railroad itself. Every locomotive, even bunching classes together, would take waaaaaaaay too long.
If you do a survey of surviving Rio Grande locomotives, include the Chama shop boilers, the boiler at Teft, and anything else that's still around. Maybe tenders? Including the water tank at Arboles.
The class 42.5 looks like if someone got an HO scale locomotive, took everything off except the boiler, frame and wheels and just put On30 parts on it lmao
@@Hyce777 THE MOUNTAINEER GOT REINCARNATED AS THE USS MAINE and then that exploded which caused a "war" then it was also turned into razorblades and now its probably a car or whatever idfk
because it's a shorter list of built loco's ranking USA 4-8-4's I think would be a neat video. also what are the origins of the grande bumble bee scheme? love the vid and the different format.
I think they did the one engine up for the world's fair? Leighton would know. Only two engines wore it for anything other than being blown up for a movie from what I recall - 473 and 268.
What do you mean Pere Marquette "engines", they only had one!1!!!1! (This is a comment made in jest about how nobody knows any other Pere Marquette engines besides the Berks, don't hurt me)
@@Arkay315 The only diesels PM ever bought were switchers and the E7s for the streamliners. No road switchers were purchased by PM. C&O bought BL2s for the PM district branch lines and dieselized the district with GPs before the rest of the C&O.
you know what would be funny, a bunch of Americans looking at the surprisingly well catalogued NZGR (New Zealand government Railways) and see how cursed SOME of our locos are...
There's a K class 4-8-4 in New Zealand that has a thermic siphon that isn't superheated. Granted it was BUILT with superheat, but it's been removed in preservation because the line it runs on is slow and short. It don't need it
I have a bit of bias towards the concept of the Class 140 simply because I like the idea of a box headlight on a K-28. Also Hyce saying that Rio Grande should've thought of a 4 wheel trailing truck makes me think a Rio Grande Berkshire would go kickass.
Why not a Rio Grande Northern? Take the Baldwin proposal with 48" drivers and add a four-wheel trailing truck but keep the four-wheel lead truck. And the name of course would confuse foamers everywhere, which is probably enough to bump it up a tier all by itself.
Given the time period in which the Rio Grande was buying NG locomotives, any Berkshires they might buy would end up with the stupid articulating trailing trucks that love to derail in reverse.
43:30 Great Eastern was the Thames in London, not the Mersey in Liverpool. Either way, I love the format. I would love to see what you guys do from here, maybe RGSisms/Unitah or go after the standard gauge world.
I love the gang getting back together. Is this supposed to be a teaser for Season 5? I know, I know, I hate to be that guy... but... somebody had to ask that question.
J class N&W RR 4-8-4 out classed all other 4-8-4's it had the most advanced system for a steam locomotive. All roller bearings and pressure lubricated right down to the bearings on the bell.
I want to see episodes about About the locomotives of other railroads. But with guests in the livesteam who know about, Or, in the case of ones where surviving examples still exist, who maintain or operate them. We still have the power of the internet for now to connect to people all over the world. Make the best of it.
I’m just pointing out that there were very successful 3ft gauge 4-8-2s built like the New Zealand Js and Ja classes. Beloved by crews and reliable, quite a few of them survive and run in NZ still. One even has decent looking streamlining. NZR J 1211.
NZ is 3' 6" though and in general has a straighter roadbed. South African Railways is also 3' 6' and ran 4-8-4s as well as Beyer-Garratts. Thinking of Garratts, the D&RGW would have been well off with 2-8-0+0-8-2 and 2-8-2+2-8-2 than an articulated 2-8-8-2(simple or compound).
I can live with the c-17 in B, considering that I am addicted to 42’s history. Another factor is its just being my personal favorite locomotive for no reason, so I would put it in A for history. *BIRB noises*
Might be fun to do a comparison of different railroad 4-8-4s or just by wheel arrangement. Pacific types or articulated would be more difficult as there were so many size variations.
The Baldwin 4-8-2 proposal makes me think, "What if the D&RGW stuck with Alco for its next purchase after the K-28s?" Would you end up with an outside frame 3-cylinder M-38 instead of K-36?
with all this talk about Narrow gauge engines for the D&RG, I'm surprised no one decided make a proper 2882 or even a 4884 for the D&RG. but I guess it was more of a 'Standard Gauge is where the money is at" type deal
Where would the Garratt model fit on this list ;) Australia proves that you can have big, useable, narrow gauge Garratts. If only more booze had been consumed.
I was wondering where the heck RGS #20 T-19 was, and then at the very end of it all it was mentioned that #20 was on the RGS, not the RG and RGW that the list was based on. Now I know why the heck one of the girls was missing from the roster. =w=;
On the topic of the M-35 proposal, how did Baldwin draw that up and not think it might need 2 trailing axels with all space under that massive firebox? It just looks goofy on paper.
I also would argue that the C-18s ALL deserve B tier because 318 was more favored by crews over 340 into Ouray because she allegedly rode better, not to mention they had a better tonnage rating despite lower TE because they had a better factor of adhesion, I'm also pretty sure 315's tonnage ratings beat the C-21s but I could be wrong
THe arguments i've had about the Mallard vs some of america's fastest (including the unoffical records set by both the PRR S1 and T1) but the british just get mad at you if you bring that up
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honestly, if its too hard to get together in person, a video call based 3/4 show season with face cams for each of you works for me. like you can't lime each other but other than that it seems like it would still be the typical fun, nerdy idiocy that we all love to watch.
They can always just say limes and put up a clip of someone getting limed
Just tell "LIME! LIIIIIIMMEEEE!!!"
Plot twist: the fastest steam locomotive was some poor logging shay, running away down a hill, with all its running gear in orbit, moments before flying off a cliff.
that's kind of funny
@@AllisonChainz3718 legit laughed when I read that
19:56 This argument is hilarious, Bretts comment "Ah yes a day that that ends in Y" floored me 😂
Please please please make more of this style content! 🙏 Ive been sad to loose all the old tech tree videos, and hearing you nerds debate the merit of locomotives is honestly what I'm here for. The more passionate, yet simultaneously against each other and their opinions you can be, the better the content. As a side benefit to hilarity, we all get the benefit of learning history and facts about the equipment, so I definitely cant complain.
Wait, why did the old vids get taken down?
@@lizzyobrien2376If I had to venture a guess, it's like to due A, not being affiliated with Railroads Online anymore, B, creating Century of Steam while having videos of Railroads Online development may have a bit of conflict of interest, and C, the biggest reason in my opinion, saltiness.
honestly love this addition to the 3/4 show lineup, your dynamics are so much fun that I'm down for more casual (and hopefully easier for you guys to put together) videos to tide us over between the main 3/4 seasons
there is a VERY GOOD reason that the SINGLE Farley exists
basically chopped in half and given a trailing truck and is not an abomination
Would love to see more of these. Two suggestions-british engines and different classes/designs with the same wheel arrangements, like as many 2-4-0s as you can find.
Oh, yes, I want to see Mark's opinion of the Bavarian Pt 2/3 (later DB Br70) 2-4-0s! Especially the part where the front axle is fixed, and the part where it had a door in the back of the cab so the fireman could also work as the conductor on light passenger trains. And of course the obvious part where it looks like a 2-6-0 that someone left in a bad neighborhood and had the front drive axle stolen.
I'm stealing "...more than there are gains of rice in jambalaya "
Love the new flavor of 3/4 content! Definitely would like to see a tier list on surviving grande stuff, as well as a superpower list across all the railroads in the US. It would be interesting to see how you rank big choo choo against big choo choo
I love the big plow on the k-28 with the knuckle sticking through. That is a cool image. 16:49
Always love hanging out with the 3/4 crew, and this was a fun introduction to the new format (and presumably a bit easier as it didn't require everyone being in the same physical space). Love the idea of doing all the preserved Colorado narrow gauge locos, especially as a good excuse to tell potted versions of their stories (C&S #9 at Georgetown Loop is a classic). As for other ideas, what about ranking Colorado narrow gauge railroad companies? Or bringing Jersey back for Ranking Tourist Railroads 2.0?
19:52 I thought for sure Leighton's argument for S Tier would be: "If we don't put the K-37 at the top, Peaches will unalive us or worse, refuse to steam or otherwise f*** with us mid-event." Hopefully she has enough awareness of her own flaws to be content with A Tier.
I love this format. I learned more about the K's than ever before. I would change only one thing: a fair amount of the appeal of the 3/4 show is that we can see everyone's w-t-f facial expressions. Would the other half of the idiot be prepared to spin up their cameras?
Thanks for the silly video. I would love to see a tierlist video of the running-in-preservation choochoos.
I'll see if I can get them in on it (and figure out how to record two screens!) for next time. :D
This format is absolutely hilarious. Might be fun listening to you lot ripping into Canadian narrow gauge. A good few 3'6" gauge wood burning double Fairlies for Hyce's enjoyment...
I wonder if the Mexican steam helpers on the electric railroad were used because the capacity of the generating plant and transmission lines wasn't enough to supply a train with electric helpers.
No idea. Certainly possible though.
Long ago in a Great Lake State far away (1983-1985, Michigan), I worked on the restoration of 464 at the Huckelberry railroad with its wonderful Rushton trailing truck. The bar across the top of the box with pin ends that support the swing hangers was worn to essentially a crank pin shape. The shop supervisor sent it out to be built up with weld and the ends ground cylindrical. We put the trailing truck back together with new pins and bushings and tapered bolts and put it back under the locomotive. The locomotive at this point was a 2-0-2 with all the drivers removed for tire turning or replacement. At this point we needed the drop pit 464 was over to work on the 2 (Alaska Engineering Commission 152). As we were moving 464 to the adjacent track using Porter diesel 1203 (before its engine transplant) there was a disturbingly loud bang. One of the pin ends that had been welded up let go giving the 464 a decided list to starboard. The engine was gingerly returned to its original position and quickly blocked up before dropping the trailing truck. Things were delayed for a week, or so, as new parts were slowly turned to create the end pins and bored for the box locating pin.
That was right after I left at the end of 1983. I was the Track Foreman. The shop supervisor was Plaisted.
@@royreynolds108 I think I started in October. I do remember you. Carl later ended up on the Strasburg as an engineer, but I haven't seen him since sometime in the 90s.
I'd say def do one on surviving Rio Grande narrow gauge engines. Also, doing other narrow gauge stuff (SPNG and EBT come to mind) would be cool. But honestly one could get into the weeds of "Now lets do all the Rio Grande standard gauge" or "Lets do all the surviving 4-8-4s," extremely easily lol.
More servings of this please!!!
Doesn’t matter how or what Hyce and friends discuss, it’s always so entertaining and educational.
Yeah to another 3/4 Show! I really liked this format, Mark for seeing how the rankings were assigned. As I continue to learn more about the DRG it was interesting to see all the classes put up on the screen and have you Mark, Brett and Leighton compare them. So fun to hear you all discuss the good, bad and ugly for us. I learned much from this and had quite the giggle too! Yes, Mark please do this for other railroads; like you guys said, would make for spirited, excellent conversation and learning! As always, many thanks Professor for another fabulous 3/4 episode. Cheers to you guys!
4:00 - That whole "bicycle on a loco that broke down especially often" thing is great. I think I have to submit this as a suggestion for improvement 🤣
24:50 - Nah, "der Wagen" was correct :D
27:15 - I'll admit the 42.5 just looks like a generic, prototypical early American steam loco to me 🤣 I think it's cute.
Waking up in the middle of the night, not being able to sleep, and then open youtube to see this video available 👍
Glad to hear all you're voices. Love the concept. Peace 😁🥴🚂🚂🦕🦜
Man I'd love to see you guys do this for other railroads in general.
Technology Blue Peter was faster than Millard at Durham in 1994 😂
For a given definition of "crunch".
I am always amazed at the amount of knowledge you guys have. Thanks for continuing to make awesome content!
Definitely do a ranking of the surviving engines
about the "trailing truck", the Cartazzi (as used often by Gresley) is a radial truck, which means the hornguides move the angled axleboxes in an arc, so it essentially acts like a bissel pony truck which has its pivot much more forward than could be done with a normal bissel. Its also very stable because the springs are very far away from each other and do a good job of centering the axle.
I see 3/4 show episodes, I click like.
Yes we need a ranking series and should call it “Foamer Fight Night” 🤣
Depending on when this is filmed, being based in Colorado might have meant that the snow was too bad to get everyone together
Filmed yesterday, and just easier to do this way
On account of the snow?
You guys should do a tier-list of Non-D&RG(W) narrow gauge roads
What another awesome 3/4 show episode man, I really enjoyed this video, i think more locomotive tier list would be very interesting to see, i was thinking why not try to do standard gauge Rio grande railroad Steam locomotives or locomotives in general from the standard gauge Rio grande. Anyways Mark i hope you have a kick ass weekend 🤟🏼😎
Please Hyce, im on me knees begging for you to do more tierlists.
Here’s a couple of ideas, how about a tier list of Tenwheelers that lasted into the 1940s/50s? Or 4-8-4 tier list? Or 1st gen diesel road and switcher power?
Love this ranking video, can't wait for more videos like these 🤗
Other ideas for tier-listing:
1. Ranking US narrow gauge railroads
2. Ranking US narrow gauge tourist railroads (a smaller version of the above, but looking specifically at the tourist op part).
3. Ranking narrow gauge mikados, possibly by class. I count 4 classes on the Grande, 1 on the Oahu, 2 on the Sumpter Valley, 3 on the Broad Top, 2 on the Uintah, and 4 on the White Pass (of which 1 came from the Grande and 1 from the Sumpter Valley). You could also throw in Canadian and Central American ones if you wanted, I guess.
4. Ranking preserved Grande NG steam locomotives.
If he does all of US do NOT forget the custom built 2-6-0 “Ellington”
@@AshCatTrainz No no, not "every US narrow gauge steam locomotive", just the railroad itself. Every locomotive, even bunching classes together, would take waaaaaaaay too long.
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@@BandanRRChannel I really hope you looked up Ellington and saw the doot though
This video is too good Mark hope you guys do the ran,ings of all the engines
If you do a survey of surviving Rio Grande locomotives, include the Chama shop boilers, the boiler at Teft, and anything else that's still around. Maybe tenders? Including the water tank at Arboles.
3/4 show I click
I would love to see you guys argue over individual preserved engines
i would LOVE a surviving grande tier list. insert "DONT SAY MY GIRL" and 20, 346 and 491 all being very ready to mess with you the next day
The class 42.5 looks like if someone got an HO scale locomotive, took everything off except the boiler, frame and wheels and just put On30 parts on it lmao
24:46 that poor fairly probably got turned into warship steel.
Probably true, lol!
@@Hyce777 THE MOUNTAINEER GOT REINCARNATED AS THE USS MAINE
and then that exploded which caused a "war"
then it was also turned into razorblades and now its probably a car or whatever idfk
The 3/4 show is the 3/4 show no matter what. With that said, ITS BACK!!
because it's a shorter list of built loco's ranking USA 4-8-4's I think would be a neat video. also what are the origins of the grande bumble bee scheme? love the vid and the different format.
I think they did the one engine up for the world's fair? Leighton would know. Only two engines wore it for anything other than being blown up for a movie from what I recall - 473 and 268.
@@Hyce777 i hate that movie bc they blew up 2 poor little rio grande 2-8-0s those poor engines didnt deserve that at all :(
I would love to see a tier list for all the surviving narrow gauge engines
I’m a foamer from the Atlanta region and I’ve never seen a 4 hour late Amtrak train on a northfolk southern main in Duluth
Please rank all of the preserved Rio grande engines, 464 deserves the recognition. Also please rank pere Marquette engines.
What do you mean Pere Marquette "engines", they only had one!1!!!1!
(This is a comment made in jest about how nobody knows any other Pere Marquette engines besides the Berks, don't hurt me)
@PowerTrain611 i think there is also a preserved pere Marquette diesel switcher
@@Arkay315 The only diesels PM ever bought were switchers and the E7s for the streamliners. No road switchers were purchased by PM. C&O bought BL2s for the PM district branch lines and dieselized the district with GPs before the rest of the C&O.
464 & 463 are not the same engines anymore. 464 was made a soaker in California during its time at KBF.
would love to see more of these, very fun!
you know what would be funny, a bunch of Americans looking at the surprisingly well catalogued NZGR (New Zealand government Railways) and see how cursed SOME of our locos are...
32:00 it's okay the t1 trust will absolutely smash gresleys speed record with Mallard when 5550 is done, hyce is right here lol
There's a K class 4-8-4 in New Zealand that has a thermic siphon that isn't superheated. Granted it was BUILT with superheat, but it's been removed in preservation because the line it runs on is slow and short. It don't need it
I have a bit of bias towards the concept of the Class 140 simply because I like the idea of a box headlight on a K-28.
Also Hyce saying that Rio Grande should've thought of a 4 wheel trailing truck makes me think a Rio Grande Berkshire would go kickass.
Why not a Rio Grande Northern? Take the Baldwin proposal with 48" drivers and add a four-wheel trailing truck but keep the four-wheel lead truck. And the name of course would confuse foamers everywhere, which is probably enough to bump it up a tier all by itself.
@@BrooksMoses Northerns are nice but I'm unsure if a Northern would be good for the Rio Grande's trackwork.
Given the time period in which the Rio Grande was buying NG locomotives, any Berkshires they might buy would end up with the stupid articulating trailing trucks that love to derail in reverse.
3/4 Tierlists, I can get behind it.
We have a 4-4-2 at the Wabash Frisco and Pacific with 2 circulators, which is like a siphon but it's not stayed into the boiler it's free floating.
43:30 Great Eastern was the Thames in London, not the Mersey in Liverpool.
Either way, I love the format. I would love to see what you guys do from here, maybe RGSisms/Unitah or go after the standard gauge world.
I love the gang getting back together. Is this supposed to be a teaser for Season 5? I know, I know, I hate to be that guy... but... somebody had to ask that question.
This better be one of his most popular videos and if not the birb army will go to the museum to kidnap 491 and 20
J class N&W RR 4-8-4 out classed all other 4-8-4's it had the most advanced system for a steam locomotive. All roller bearings and pressure lubricated right down to the bearings on the bell.
Oh this is going to be a joy to watch~
Rank the preserved locomotives by historical significance! Since we are getting the overall ranking here it makes sense to mix it up a bit
Man, now that you said it, I am mad that we don't have narrow gauge Berkshires.
I want to see episodes about About the locomotives of other railroads. But with guests in the livesteam who know about, Or, in the case of ones where surviving examples still exist, who maintain or operate them.
We still have the power of the internet for now to connect to people all over the world. Make the best of it.
yes, do all of the surving engines as individuals
I’m just pointing out that there were very successful 3ft gauge 4-8-2s built like the New Zealand Js and Ja classes. Beloved by crews and reliable, quite a few of them survive and run in NZ still. One even has decent looking streamlining. NZR J 1211.
NZ is 3' 6" though and in general has a straighter roadbed. South African Railways is also 3' 6' and ran 4-8-4s as well as Beyer-Garratts. Thinking of Garratts, the D&RGW would have been well off with 2-8-0+0-8-2 and 2-8-2+2-8-2 than an articulated 2-8-8-2(simple or compound).
Would also say rank the british locos to invite lawrie and just put every british locos in f tier
Apart from s tier ruston 48 im assuming....
Oh boy, the perfect video the keep me up at 2AM 🤣
FOR THE GRANDER GOOD
I can live with the c-17 in B, considering that I am addicted to 42’s history. Another factor is its just being my personal favorite locomotive for no reason, so I would put it in A for history. *BIRB noises*
Might be fun to do a comparison of different railroad 4-8-4s or just by wheel arrangement. Pacific types or articulated would be more difficult as there were so many size variations.
The Oahu railroad had there own set of k28's.
PLEASE DO MORE OF THIS
The Baldwin 4-8-2 proposal makes me think, "What if the D&RGW stuck with Alco for its next purchase after the K-28s?" Would you end up with an outside frame 3-cylinder M-38 instead of K-36?
@hyce The 3/4 Idiots are back?! Hooray!!
I want more of this
I'm no rail nerd but I be from Utah nice to hear you're scared of me
The boys crappy do the more my heart sings and I can't help it I need to laugh this is the funniest thing I've ever seen
with all this talk about Narrow gauge engines for the D&RG, I'm surprised no one decided make a proper 2882 or even a 4884 for the D&RG. but I guess it was more of a 'Standard Gauge is where the money is at" type deal
I support the Duck Hunt (and 611 or 5550 whenever they have clear track for a record attempt).
Where would the Garratt model fit on this list ;) Australia proves that you can have big, useable, narrow gauge Garratts. If only more booze had been consumed.
Great question....
I was wondering where the heck RGS #20 T-19 was, and then at the very end of it all it was mentioned that #20 was on the RGS, not the RG and RGW that the list was based on. Now I know why the heck one of the girls was missing from the roster. =w=;
Yup, the Rio Grande Southern was it's own separate thing.
Make sense.
@ Big fan of #20. Ten-Wheelers are my favorite wheel set, and was happy to find a good looking girl in #20.^^
Yay, I’ve missed this show
I love tier lists!
We need a part 2
On the topic of the M-35 proposal, how did Baldwin draw that up and not think it might need 2 trailing axels with all space under that massive firebox? It just looks goofy on paper.
So I just went to the Colorado Railroad museum for the first and confused Jeff cuz I called 491 peaches and he didn't know who was calling her that 😂
@Hyce so do you know about Knotts Barry Farm they have two Rio Grand K 27 locomotives they are Rio Grand numbers 340 and 41
I also would argue that the C-18s ALL deserve B tier because 318 was more favored by crews over 340 into Ouray because she allegedly rode better, not to mention they had a better tonnage rating despite lower TE because they had a better factor of adhesion, I'm also pretty sure 315's tonnage ratings beat the C-21s but I could be wrong
Interesting, I'd have to check the books...
Granted my source is the book on 315’s restoration by the DRHS but I doubt that bias is that strong, shall I send pictures to your channel email?
Wouldn't that mean grandma lost one of her children😢 346
I want to see the survived tierlist
I’m kinda sad y’all didn’t include the RGS-exclusive locomotives to this list
Pennsy supremacy for the win! Suck it Mallard! Also an articulated steam Choo Choo tier list would be cool!
27:33 - has anyone ever made a hypothetical depiction of it? I'd be interested to see what it could've looked like.
Do an SP tier list
Love this but would love it even more to see face cams of all the 3/4 idiots
A comparison of the PRR when
Would love a loco based rating
10:47 and every single one I have seen are the Silverton ones
Great Video !
THe arguments i've had about the Mallard vs some of america's fastest (including the unoffical records set by both the PRR S1 and T1) but the british just get mad at you if you bring that up
Oh cinders and ashes, the grand had a double Fairley. Why, just why? And for the Baldwin proposed 4-8-2, middle column bottom line, “Stoker: None”.
11:46 *sad 491 noises*