Myths About Defending Your Pieces In Chess
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I've never heard of this "defending your pieces" concept
In all seriousness though, great video, as usual!
@@stevenbrule5285 Defending is a really common concept though. When a piece is defended, it means "no matter what takes it, I have a piece to take back" and usually to stop opponent from taking it. BTW, it's usually impractical to defend a queen, since they are too valuable, so trading a queen for opponent's other pieces are often a bad trade
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never heard of it as well, but as the thumbnail suggests i’ll stop doing it after i learn what it is
"If you hear screaming, I do apologize" is probably the funniest thing he's said in these videos about chess.
I was like “ you have a baby ? “
Bro has some midgets trapped in the basement
"WE" have a baby is funny
Nelson, you have a great pedagogical approach. I know about this tactic, but it makes it so much clearer in my mind. I always just think of check mates, forks, pins, skewers, and batteries, and that's basically all i'm looking for, despite knowing this tactic. But now adding this to my toolbox, I feel like it'll be really helpful. Just wanted to let you know I think you're a great teacher :)
2:07 - That puzzle also happens to be one of the most concrete 'board vision' examples I've seen
3:48 Rather than doing what I was supposed to do, I found queen to G6. This forces the king into the corner, than checking with the knight makes the rook take. This wins a rook and pawn of free.
If only that was the point of the puzzle.
Edit: I guess it was kinda the point of the puzzle. I wrote this before I unpaused.
You forget about White's queen bro
This move is impossible.
I believe you mean G3
i love these types of videos where you explain one concept in a good amount of depth with several examples. would love to see videos on strategic concepts as well as tactical ones. keep up the good work!
Great video! I have never even considered overloading before but it makes a whole lot of sense in retrospect! I will definitely be more mindful of this moving forward 😊
Hey Nelson, can you please start posting links to the boards you show? It'd be nice to do some more analysis, explore other lines and see why ideas don't work, and it's a lot of effort to set up the board manually each time. Thanks!
I used to teach chess on schools, and overload and keeping an eye on the whole board were two common topics I tried to show to the children!
4:49 if king H1 then we have Nf2 fork and we are winning a rook
Yeah, I was waiting for him to talk about that, then trying to work out what the problem is that means it's a bad idea
I think the point is bishop takes is also threatening checkmate, but instead of rook for knight it is bishop for rook and a pawn, so a slightly better trade, which still allows the second tactic of a fork if nothing changes
@@grapetoad6595 or you know he just wanted to stay on track for overload
You're not winning a full rook. You're winning an exchange, and since you're already down a piece, I wouldn't say you're necessarily winning at the end.
Love conceptual educational videos like this! Super helpful
Very good video… never thought about this but in hindsight it’s obvious. This is why I love these videos, you explain things that we should know
I really like how you explain things. I'm learning shogi and I'm not a good chess player, but the concept can work in shogi as well and it's just such a good way of explaining things. Thanks a lot.
Ah yes. Shogi is awesome
You might want to check out Crazyhouse, which is like shogi with chess pieces.
Great tutorial and great examples. Love these tactics videos! Please keep making them!!
Great video, in-depth explanations, superb examples/ illustrations. Nelson, I wouldn't be surprised if you were once a teacher! Apart from the tactic: overloading, this video also has some element of another tactic called: deflection! Thumbs up Nelson
@Chess Vibes 12:24 I saw the "winning sequence" 1.b5+ Kb6 2.Bxc5+ Kxc5 3.Rg5 but wasn't sure if still winning. What happens if black 14:09 takes the Rook? 3...Rxg5 4.f8Q+ Kc4 5.Qxd8 and now there is a Q+p vs R+B. Although there is a better move for white than taking Nd8. After 5.Qf4+ Rook on g5 hangs and Q+p vs N+B will win. Though I think you should have mentioned this in the video.
Great video!! It is not only nice puzzle, but also a fun way to learn interesting and useful chess tactics. Well done!
This is awesome. I just started noticing this in my games! Your vid made it so much easier to understand! Thank you!
3:01 Or, if you take the bishop first, and the pawn takes back, you win a queen! Great lesson as always
u don't win a queen, ur just up a bishop cuz white would never take with the pawn if it means sacrificing the queen.
No.
1. Be3
2. Dxh4, xh4
3. xe3
You dont win anything
@@rapperx9820 Not arguing... but I was thinking the same and cant see what you mean... would you be willing to explain for those that cant read the letter+number part?... step 1 I get as Bishop to e3 (black bishop takes white bishop) but lost on step 2
@@allenstone9170 No problem. Sorry if my englisch isn't perfect, I am from Germany and still learning in school.
After you took the bishop your opponent takes your queen instead of your bishop. You have to take the queen back with you pawn and now your opponent just takes you bishop back with his pawn. Yyou didn't win anything but even damaged your pawn structure and strengthened your opponent's by creating a double pawn yourself and dissolving your opponent's
@@rapperx9820 I see it now.. thank you for explaining and with a kind response
Love your channel
I would argue the last begginer puzzle is intermediate since if you take with bishop first rather than queen white can get out with a trade rather than the loss of a piece (ignore bishop, capture queen), this doesn't work if the queen captures since then the queen is more valuable than the bishop.
4:00 Okay, for this one, I found black Nxd2B, then white either does Qxd2N or Bxh3Q. If white does either of these things, then the piece they didn't take goes xf1R, at which point white's response is Nxf1. The result of this battle, being black being down 12 pawns, and white being down 8.
Another possible response to Nxd2 for white is Rg2, at which black can do Qh4 attacking the hanging rook, or Qg3+ forking the king and rook.
Qh4 is met with Qxd2N, protecting the rook once again, or more brazenly, Rh2, attacking the queen. Qxh2R leads to Kxh2Q, ending the skirmish with black once again being down 12 pawns, but white only being down 3.
Qg3+ is met with either Kh1 which isn't great, Rg2 which leads to either Ne4 to protect the queen (which is still hanging the queen) or more likely Qh4 to GTFO, at which point Qxd2N finally happens, ending the skirmish with black down only 3, while white is also only down 3.
White playing Ng2 to block check is also a valid possibility, though it opens up the possibility of Nf3+. The black knight is protected by the queen, but the king is more important. I find Rxf3N the likely response, and as the white queen is also protecting f3, and the black queen is also under attack, requiring Qh4 to GTFO, leaving both sides down 3 pawns.
I'm sure someone smarter than me could activate the d4 bishop, or make Rac8 work, to limit white's moves, but I just don't see the time. Any wasted move leads to a piece getting captured.
Well presented; thank you for sharing.
Great video!
5:22 This still works. If you play Nf2+ you get a rook for a knight.
at 3:19, Qg3 probably wasn't the best move, instead, you should've moved Bf3, so that in the end you don't end up with Bishop vs bishop, and now you end up with Queen vs Bishop.
Thanks. This observation (overload tactic) has added a new layer to my decision making, when playing my next move.
8:56 pawn to h5 works too because it does the same thing wherever the queen moves black deliver checkmate or lose the queen and I think it way better to win the game with a simple pawn move
Actually, white can play Qc4 but it was a nice try
This tactic is super cool! I have to look out for these!
5:00 In this position what sticks out to me is Nf2+ which forces a Knight for Rook trade. I don’t know if that’s actually a good trade though since Black is down a piece and the Knight is very active.
that is what im thinkin
I think is because the mate threat forces the queen to move to e2, making the overload tactic available again after taking white's bishop in d2 with the knight, attacking the rook and forcing it to take with queen(losing another bishop) or move the rook and retreating the knight for a full piece advantage, but maybe an engine can calculate it more and say that is better to go for the fork. Is a complicated position for white to defend nevertheless.
To find some of these moves I use the checklist: checks, captures, and attacks and by examining all of these avaible options I am able to find a move that works well
Nice concept.👍
Tysm this is going to help me so much
I like how you let us pause to try to solve them first, instead of going straight in to the explanation
Very good Advanced and Master puzzles. Thanks for this video, it is really useful.
Thanks for the tip! This video is the reason Overload is in my Tactics 101 video.
Great job! although I have noticed at 3:20 you could have taken the f pawn fifth your bishop and then you loose way less material, because you still get the same material you just loose left.
What on earth are you talking about
Buddy, are you confused because, the white pawn are actually heading down, because white starts at 1st and 2nd column
no. because if you play bischop takes bishop first. doe does NOT take your bishop with his pawn. instead he will take your queen with his one. than ur take back his queen with your pawn. and at that point that pawn that was protecting both is attacking your bischop and so he takes is. so instead of the +3 material you have now you will end up even
Awesome video
very nice video. I didn't quite manage to solve the puzzle that was before the last one but was quite pleased with myself seeing the tactic in the final puzzle. Of course if I had that position in a game and I had just a minute on the clock then I'd be screwed
missed a few of the advanced ones. but I will gladly take pride in getting the entirety of the master one lol
love your content🤗🤗
Congrats on 200k subs, Nelson!
The rook distracts the queen, is how I think most would describe the tactic.
Day 2
As always, a amazing video course!
Try this please
You make a wheel with 3 move, 1 capture and check. Try to do the action fulfilled by the wheel.
Congratulations on 200k subs!
Yes, he deserves the 200k
Who would you play this against? Probably too tough against martinbot, you would have to play against FRED to make it even......
You like buzz?
Thanks! Keep up the good work.
Thanks Stavros, will do!
I love your videos
Really great video bro.
New subscriber here, just found your channel. Looking forward to seeing more of your videos.
Good stuff.
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This is one of the best chess videos on TH-cam
at 5:20 - couldn't you just play Knight to F2 (fork queen and king) and force black to trade their rook for your knight, instead of just taking the pawn? @Chess Vibes
What software are you using to show this?
In puzzle 3, I think it’s better to take the bishop first
That's what I was saying, if white takes your Bishop back with pawn then u win a full queen
Greed has lost more good positions than anything else. Be a surfer, don't ride the wave all the way into the beach, take your piece advantage and go back to catch the next wave.
@@blacksss4715 White trades queens. Black has to take the White queen, White now has the tempo and the pawn can take the bishop. Back to Square One, except that Black's superior pawn structure is no more.
9:34 u could put the queen at h5 and it will be still defending the knight
Yes, but black's pawn just takes. And even if there is nothing that can take the queen, black can still play Rh4, and the queen is lost.
5:00 I was looking at Nf2+, as that will force the rook to take the knight and then be taken by the queen. It’s a forced knight-for-rook trade.
Yeah that is also what I am looking at
white has -way- more material and would love to make that trade into an end game
EDIT: given it's king safety i mean, this would be a good trade for white. it needs to trade pieces and regain safety.
I can imagine overloading used as a tactic in warfare (if you can see all units). Just saw the title for your music: *Black and White Life* Very fitting!
It is, not sure what the official term is but it’s basically attacking on two fronts
You got me at the end there, I was analyzing Black to move for the longest time... since all the previous puzzles were Black to move. Oh, well.
Nice vid.
For the final puzzle, wouldn't black just take the rook, and then be left with a bishop and rook vs queen and pawn?
You just leveled me up! I’m bout to sky rocket now
On that last one it's Q+P v R+B+N, white is down material and the second pawn may win but it's not clear to us C ;players.
Yes, I just made a comment to Nelson about that:
"12:24 I saw the "winning sequence" 1.b5+ Kb6 2.Bxc5+ Kxc5 3.Rg5 but wasn't sure if still winning. What happens if black 14:09 takes the Rook? 3...Rxg5 4.f8Q+ Kc4 5.Qxd8 and now there is a Q+p vs R+B. But there is a better move for white than taking Nd8. After 5.Qf4+ Rook on g5 hangs and Q+p vs N+B will win. Though I think you should have mentioned this in the video."
At the first intermediate puzzle, after Qg3+ - Kh1 Couldnt you play Nf2+ and be up an Exchange after Rxf2 - Qxf2?
Wow! What a excellent way to win!
chess variant idea:
name: Reverse Chess (idk if theres a game called reverse chess already)
goal: get your pieces in the order normal chess starts
movement:u can take normally.
en peasant is not allowed.
pawns can move backwards
-diagonally
-vertically
king can move into check and u can capture the king
by moving a piece like a knight u can then put a piece where the knight last was
-same with bishop, pawns, queen and king
if the pawn moves to the its right/left diagonally the opponent must replace it instantly with a his/her piece
if u want to replace a piece that takes away ur turn
-being forced to wont
5:27 there are 2 ways to checkmate actually, if the h5 pawn takes g6 pawn is check, then queen g7 has to take but queen g4 takes queen g7 would mean another check, then the king h7 has to move to g8 or h8 but white's queen at g7 goes to h7 and checkmate. and the other checkmate nelson already explained it
You can just move the king back then, which lets you take the rook f8. So the queen would have to take the rook, but the pawn would be blocking white queen from putting pressure on the king.
12:53 my idea in the last puzzle was f8=Q, black has to take,bxc5 threatening a checkmate and attacking the rook and winning it, after they defend Nc6, but while writing this I realized that they can go Rf7 and it's defended. We've got nothing. I'll see the first move and try to solve from there.
The puzzle is absolutely fascinating. I considered sacking my bishop, but I didn't see the follow up pining sacrifice. Also Queen against 3 pieces seems like a difficult endgame. In a real tournament I managed to promote a queen but sacrificing one of my two pawns, but couldn't checkmate with the queen against a knight. Would be happy if Nelson covered the queen vs knight endgame so I wouldn't be embarrassed after 50 moves of shuffling.
3:15 I'm trying to understand...
Why take with the queen first instead of the bishop? Couldn't you apply the same strategy, but take the bishop first, lose yours and win the queen without losing yours?
If you take with the bishop first, white is gonna take your queen instead of the bishop.
@@kogmawmain8872 Ah, I see. And that would result in a double trade instead of a bishop win.
Thanks!
with the example starting ~3min mark, why not have Bxe3 first, with the hope that you come out of the exchange with your Q still on the board rather than your B?
3:08 I think that puzzle was a bit too easy; I didn't even notice the overload but there was no way for black to save their queen (no checks, no way to escape) so a desperado queen trade is the obvious best move even if you don't notice that it's actually winning a bishop.
6:48 And yet, on the advanced one, I saw it right away. That's devious, because trying to save the queen just blunders forced mate.
8:28 ...Never mind; completely missed Knight blocks as a response to queen takes bishop with check.
At 6:38 after Rxf8 Black should play Rxe4. Of course this prevents the immediate checkmate but also looses the game.
I think forking with knight on 1st intermediate puzzle is better as it creates checkmate and queen capture threat and if black defends properly we can get extra rook
Just curious, is there a difference between overload, deflection, and decoy?
Your opponent has a problem: one of their units is *overloaded* because it has two jobs. (e.g. it is the only defender of two other units). You exploit this by *deflecting* it so that it can't do both those jobs. Being overloaded is their problem; deflecting is what you do to exploit that.
The difference between deflecting and decoy is that deflecting a unit is deflecting it off a square/line where it wants to be (for example, deflecting a line-piece off the line of defence, supposing it was defending something). Decoy is decoying it onto a square where you want it. For example if White plays 1 Bxf7+ hoping for 1 ... Kxf7 2 Nf3-g5+ then White decoyed bK onto f7 because f7 is where White needed it to be so that wN could check it.
4:46 playing Nf6 forks the king and queen, winning the exchange of the rook
4:45 I think i would have placed the knight in F2 to fork the king and the queen, and white take my knight with the rook and i take the rook with my queen. Is that a good move ?
the last puzzle i thought g5 but i didnt know u had to push the pawn to fork
Nelson in the last postion if the black rook takes our rook when we play rook g5 then we promote, then there is going to be a queen for white against a rook, knight and bishop for black and when you add up the material black has the advantage.
Black is in check, and white can take the knight after the check. But even better, you can force the win of at least a rook after a series of checks due to how scattered black's pieces are.
coongrats about the kid, great video as always
This is the chess video I needed.
I just did Master level puzzle correct, though I made some mistakes in Advanced.But doing master level puzzle feels so good!
Well the photo on the video before you click it was wrong that overload can work out
ussually Overload happens in time trouble in clasical games when the players are also tired
bro really said "i apologize if you hear screaming we have a baby, sorry about that" 💀
in 5:26 if king h1 then you can move knight f2 too
In the puzzle on-screen at 6:28, white can take the rook and still has a very dangerous mating idea with the bishop and queen
Yup. If queen doesn’t take the rook on f8, then you take on g6 with check using the bishop, black queen has to take, then recapture using the white queen. Black king can’t take as the queen is protected by the pawn, and can’t move back to h8 because of the rook on f8
3:12 why not start by taking the bishop? Of course the opponent isn't just going to blunder their queen but wouldn't it leave you in a comparable or better position?
I was about to ask the same thing and if he moved the queen to protect the pawn we can just take the pawn in the front or the one above our queen
It doesn’t leave you in that much of a better position. All you’re doing is trading materials and getting your queen near whites king. Doing his method allows you to be up a bishop which I think is a much better position
If black takes the bishop first then white takes the queen not the bishop so in the end you trade queen and bishop for queen and bishop
@@kristapsberzins9822 oh lmao for some reason in my mind after the queen trade it would be black's turn, I'm stupid.
4:59 Nf2 wins a rook, I think
In the second beginner example, isn't it better to take the bishop first? Then your queen is still on the board
No because queen takes queen and its basically a trade and you get no advantage
1. It's better to trade pieces when you're up, so getting that extra queen trade if good for you.
2. It doesn't work, since white takes your queen instead, and you have to take back, and they take back your bishop, and you don't even win anything.
i actually cant believe i saw the last one all the way through(aside from the forks, but still)
The 10m mark puzzle of skewering a rook to a rook with your rook...after it gave check...just abusive nastiness. Better puzzle than the last one imo.
epic video!
At 9:36 the solution is incomplete. Of course, after Ra4 White plays Qf3. Unfortunately he still looses, but not immediately.
Yes, I have noticed that Nelson sometimes doesn't show the whole sequence. After 1...Ne3+ 2.Bxe3 Qxd3+ 3.Ke1 Qxe3+ 4.Ne2 Ra4! white has to sac Queen by 5.Qf3 and after 5...Rxf3 6.gxf3 Rc4 white still has to struggle with mate on e2, so 7.Rf2 Rc2 but black will win this somehow.
5:04 you can fork queen and queen with kf2 , rf2 and then queen takes rook
8:17 what to do if white moves queen to e2?
at 5:00 wouldn't the best move be to play Nf2+ to check and fork the queen? Then rook takes Rxf2 and black queen takes rook Qxf2.
Pls never quit
1st intermedium you have fork on queen and king
I didnt figure out some other puzzles but i figured out master one quite easily😂. It is weird 😅
15:04 wait in f4 can force the rook to not kill the bishop
because if it is you will loss the pawn in c5 and if it takes the pawn
then put the rook in g1 so that need to move the bishop but cant because
you will be take control the lane 1 and
if he put the bishop in r2 then
put the rook in b1 and nothing will stop that or
just kill it with the king from the first place
5:20 wouldn’t the best move be to move the knight to b7 forking the queen and the kinda and forcing him to take with the rook? it’s a win win weather they block with the knight or move the king
I solved all of the master puzzle but couldn't solve the intermadiate and advanced ones.
for the master level puzzle you can also go bishop to c5
And what happens after rook takes pawn?
on 4:47 cant you just fork the king and the queen by moving Knight under the rook, then if he takes with rook you can take the rook with queen