They need to get rid of the actor who plays Ned Leeds and this MJ because these are not the correct MJ or Ned leads at all in the comics. Ned Leeds is not a fat black kid, and MJ is not a black teenager-she's a redheaded white chick!
Yeah, I just wish the movie was given more time to breath, but because Secret Wars and Doomsday are so close, it likely won't get that, but I'm optimistic the movie is gonna be good.
I feel like MJ and Ned should probably just go away for a few movies and let peter settle into his spiderman persona and focus on cultivating new friendships and relationships. Then possibly bring them back down the line
@@manxdarcqpaw744 amy pascal have confirmed this the biggest mistake we did was to not have spiderman inn ssu littery she said it. Now are focus is only on tom holland spiderman, beyond the spiderverse and noir and we will never do a villian movie without spiderman again. So sony did learn but to late for there own univers atleast they deleted that univers now
Except that most of the time the heroes DO TRIUMPH over adversity and survive. Movie studios do see the point, and your statement is completely invalid and wrong. Why you even said this is beyond me, you're the one who doesn't get it. But, who cares what you think anyway.
This is the perfect way they could introduce black cat like literally! He doesn't want anything to with his personal life and then he meets black cat AS spiderman. She doesn't need to know who he is and work together for sometime then eventually they become lovers.
I agree Peter & Miles can both coexist and both be Spider-Man at the same time if they can do it in comics and the cartoons, they can do in the movies too. If Miles come into live action it dose not mean that is the end Peter Parker & Spider-Man or just Spider-Man
End of Peter is an interesting description, which it's most likely the case that Peter will mainly be Spiderman for a big portion of his screen time, and any sort of stuff with Peter not being Spiderman will be small screentime wise
That's why I think Spiderman should get the black suit in Doomsday because in the 4th Spiderman, that suit can build off that loneliness. That can be the theme of the entire movie loneliness. That's why Venom will be a great villain in Spider man 4 ( Sony Japan spoiled it) because Venom died in the third one. we can see Eddie struggling without him. Then, in a dark scene Finding Peter through the daily bugle and taking the suit, making this venom a true villain.
Peter Parker isn't dead but I get what they're saying but headline probably doesn't help with that. Personally I have no interest in Miles Morales(I understand if you grew up and that character was created and you got into it, I can see why but its not for me).
I've been very indifferent about Miles Morales as well, because he just hasn't been Spider-Man for me anywhere as much as we obviously still associate Spider-Man with Peter Parker. This current thing of having two different characters carrying the Spider-Man mantle at the same time reminds me of when Ben Reilly/Scarlet Spider existed in the comics during the 90s, only he was Peter's literal clone during that infamous Clone Saga story arc. It's one thing if they've been wanting Miles to be an alternative iteration of Spider-Man, but I just think it would be a huge mistake if they ever wanted to substitute Peter for him altogether and then never want to do anything more with the OG Spider-Man again.
Agreed I’m pretty indifferent. I think there’s a lot of potential with it but I don’t really care too much. It’s like a movie I’d still go see, but wouldn’t care too much about the future of it
I’m in between on that like I love Peter Parker he’s the OG but miles is so cool he should’ve be shown in the mainstream movies like a good ending to the raimi movies to make people like him more and I can relate to them both which is why I’m in between on that opinion
I still don't understand how she is in anyway involved. She left Sony but they still have her involved? I never understood how she could work that deal.
She owns a major stake in the Spiderman IP if I’m not mistaken. Her and that scum Avi Arad hold the majority. Hence why Sony hasn’t outright sold back to Sony. It’s those two stopping it.
What villains do I want? of them!!!! I would like to see Mr. Negative. I would like a Gang War of some kind involving Tombstone, Hammerhead, Silvermane, Kingpin, The Rose, Black Tarantula, The Owl, Hobgoblin. I would like the Jackal and a nod to a potential Clone Saga film. I would like the Smythes and their Spider-Slayers. I would like The Scorpion (finally). I would like to see some secondary characters like White Tiger, Black Cat, Puma, Nocturne, Batwing, Bluebird, Agent Venom, Speedball, Silver Sable, Hobie Brown's Prowler, Nightwatch, Rocket Racer, Solo, Cardiac, Paladin, Chance, Coldheart, Poison, Corona, Delilah, The Slingers; Prodigy, Hornet, Dusk & Ricocet. Personally... what I would love to see.... I want a new Norman Osborn. I know the Norman from No Way Home said he looked and couldn't fine any trace of a Norman in this universe. That's an easy fix. Norman was crossing into top secret research so the government whisked him away, erased his existence and put his ex-wife and son Harry into witness protection. Then when the snap happened, he was freed but realized he had to operate off the radar. So instead of "Oscorp", he assumed the role of Tyler Stone and created Alchemax. Alchemax would be the new Oscorp. And Kingpin would fund Alchemax for all sorts of programs to help take down vigilantes of which a whole floor or two would be dedicated to Spider-man. For that they would have robotics experts like Mendell Stromm, Otto Octavius (or Olivia Octavius), Phineas Mason and Spencer and Alistair Smythe. They would have genetic experts like Miles Warren, Michael Morbius and Farley Stillwell that have a team dedicated to trying to find trace DNA of Spider-man. On top of potentially cloning Peter, they could work with Damage Control to "acquire" alien samples of the Outriders and use that to clone them and create the Dopplegangers. They could create a mutagen that transforms Peter into Man-Spider. If I were Sony.... instead of making films about characters and not being able to have Spider-man in them, I would work out a deal with Disney for a Disney plus series called "Tangled Web" where each episode could be devoted to an origin story of a Spider-man related character. I can have (but doesn't have to) Spider-man in it or culminate to a conclusion whereby Spider-man could just be reserved for the final episode. Tangled Web season 1 could explore flashbacks for Norman and his return to power to creating Alchemax and each episode could be him assembling the "professionals" to fill his lab with. Tangled Web season 2 could explore the secondary characters and perhaps The Game storyline whereby many compete for a prize. The third season could explore the Clone Saga.
Bro, you should be the riders at Sony because my God if this is how the Sony Spider-Man universe was people probably have no complaints a true Spider-Man fan right here👏👏👏
Okay at least it seems they are dealing with him being ground level for part of the movie. I wonder what this means for him being in college, maybe he’s more of a recluse and instead of taking photos for the bugle it will maybe be videos? I feel like all these plans are great but I think all of it happening within the Doomsday stuff will be a lot! It honestly would have been great if it was King Pin
I still don’t get this, everyone forgot who Peter Parker was but does his spider suits forget who he is? You can’t delete him from the stark tech. Also, what about Edith he still has that too.
That does make sense, plot and story wise. Pete will be pouring his WHOLE being into his alter-ego. But I can see a bit of a call back to Homecoming when Peter did that to try to be an Avenger. Again, that's me overthinking it. But it could mean something differently. Idk.
I think like people stated that he ruining from his civil life so he will not be hurt again. Perfect time for venom thu. Also the fact andrew said the same to him no way home dont run away from being peter parker i dont want you to end up like me bitter and angry and stoping puling back. So I predict andrew vs tom if it is a multiverse movie. Andrew need to kick him out off it
Seeing more Spider-Man than Peter Parker is something that hasn't been done before in live action. I think this is a good thing and will have an amazing story. I'm cool with a multiversal story as long as they show a decent amount of street level. 👍
For the portion of the movie that is not multiversal(if possible at all), I do wanna see Kingpin as the guy behind scenes, and maybe have like Scorpion be his goon that attacks Spidey and then Daredevil(and if possible, Black Cat) team up. If this portion lasts like at least an hour and a half, then they could go any route with the Multiverse thing.
FINALLY We’ve been waiting for Black Cat and she’s finally here!!! Tbh I think she can offer so much more depth to the story because to me MJ and Gwen felt similar, at least their storylines with Spider Man did
I hope the next villain is the scorpion because of the apearence of mack gargon in Spiderman homecoming, and on top of for to take some inspiration from the comics to have J Johna jameson fund the money for the experiment that mack gargon into the scorpion.
Exactly i remember i use to have the toy from the 90s show then he was in homecoming n they just threw him to the side i dont want to see another venom or goblin untill we see more villains 1st
Predictions of the Sinister 6: Scorpion-the leader of the group.🦂 Chameleon-(Peter’s bus driver in FFH) after Mysterio’s death, Chameleon uses his illusion tech to create a mask that will allow him to change his appearance.🎭 Spider Slayer-a paralyzed scientist that created his own iron man like spider suit.🕷️ Razorback-the muscle of the group. Probably will look like a humanoid warthog like Bebop.🐗 Vermin-a geneticist that experimented on himself, transforming himself into a humanoid rat.🐀 Hobgoblin-Ned was kidnapped and experimented with a serum that corrupted him and probably will use his magic to fight Spider-Man.👹
It makes sense, especially after no way home. He'll barely be Peter due to the spell. I think eventually find a way to drop the spell in a way where it'll only be to people who he wants to know. Family and friends. Favorite Hero: Batman
How long till Sony sells the rights of Spider-Man and all the characters from his comics back to marvel and Disney just like how Disney got the rights for the Fantastic Four and the X-Men from Fox to use in the MCU? If that happened sooner, Do you think we would have seen Tobey Maguire Spider-Man in the Deadpool and Wolverine movie?
I don't know what to say about Spider-Man after the messed up ending of Spider-Man No Way Home meaning messed up as in being alone with no family and friends along with being forgotten from everyone's mind and everything he worked hard for as Peter Parker like academics gone down the drain since he's been wiped out of all the school records and how everyone thinks he killed his own aunt as well as still believing the lies of Mysterio. I say the writers went too far with this even if everyone doesn't agree with me
That has always been spider man's story, one of tragedy where he loses everything, even his girl MJ usually goes after the frat boy and cheats on him multiple times before realizing peter's the 1 for her and coming back to him and peter accepting her like a chump
Nah, man they should just keep spider man for spider man 5 and 6 swinging alongside miles morales [most times] and the rest of it, bonding with miles, harry osborn,ned,mj, flash thompson and possibly gwen stacy and ganke lee
I actually like the direction this movie is going in and Spider-Man getting with Black Cat as a couple would be pretty cool. I hope the other two Spider-Men show up at the beginning of the film instead of at the end but if they’re going to be in the movie, where will they be staying at house wise?
If it was me, I would use the idea of Kingpin hiring certain villains to take out Spiderman like Hammerhead, Scorpion, Tombstone. Introducing newer villains to live action while having familiar faces like Kingpin
The comics have explored Peter going through a "Spider-Man no more" as well as a "Peter Parker no more" plot. Honestly, it's good timing as they could have Spidey interact with Johnny Storm with FF introduced prior to Doomsday and Spidey 4 releasing after it. I do wish we were getting a Spidey/Daredevil team up with city wide gang war as the conflict, though.
How crazy would it be if RDJ remembers Peter Parker from ‘another life’ and Peter recognizes him too. That would be an insanely emotional scene depending on Dooms ruthlessness
Black Cat makes sense if you think about the possibility of the Kingpin, Daredevil, The Punisher, etc, being added to the MCU. Daredevil has already been in the MCU, all-be-it in his lawyer persona. They all take place around the same area, so the more the merrier!
I heard something about maybe iron man could come back bc they could get him through time travel, and it would be a great wholesome moment if when iron comes back he knows peter bc he didn't get affected by the spell
7:28 i love this idea so much the thought of Spidey and Felicia having a relationship until he realises he needs to be peter parker again, and that’s the draw back to MJ for Pete. i hope they steal this from you 😂😂
I don’t mind the direction they are taking SM4 as long as these are the films that follow 🎥: SM5 - SM & DD team up against Kingpin & Scorpion SM6 - Peter mentors Miles and they fight against Mr. Negative & Prowler
I seem to remember hearing something about how Zendaya WASN'T going to be part of the next 3 Spider-Man movies. (Plus she is not listed on IMDB as being in it either and that is where I get my trusted info from). Giggity Giggity all right
it all just makes me think they have no idea where to take spiderman. personally that character deserves a show on Disney+ but a long season instead of a long movie broken down into 9 episodes. now would be the perfect time to show us what peter in the mcu is doing post no way home and show us his journey from the bottom to back to the top
Honestly my personal take on the whole situation is that Mr. Negative should be the villain of Fantastic 4, escape into the multiverse and into the MCU with the Fantastic 4 following him leading to a Spider-Man 4 movie where the Fantastic 4 are stranded and confused in the MCU version of New York City with Spider-Man going toe to toe with Mr. Negative. Black Cat and a couple other side villains can also still be in the movie in the first act or something. Also, this would help explain how Dr. Doom finds his way into the MCU in the form of a post credit scene for Fantastic 4 where the still normal Victor Von Doom gets pulled from his universe by Mr. Negative and gets sent to the MCU where he learns about alien technology and forms evil intentions. One last note, this level of interconnectivity between Fantastic 4 and Spider-Man 4 would help the MCU feel more like there an over-arching story with a clear purpose and plot at play within the MCU and not some haphazardly thrown together version of Dr. Doom just suddenly appearing in an Avengers movie after being in one post credits scene.
I think it would be very funny and cool if we got that scene where Peter breaks into the Baxter Building to ask the Fantastic 4 for job because he needs money and they all laugh at him
I personally would like to see Spider-Man grow a little more violent but also just as funny as the comics, just cause since he’s so distraught as Peter, he handles his emotions through being a superhero and cracking jokes left and right
no spell needs to be broken. he could just approach happy or pepper, who would still know spiderman is one of the good guys, and reveal himself to them. money problem solved.
if hes done being peter, does that mean hes done being nice too? if so the anger and frustration he may go into this movie with could help fuel his anger when we get the black suit
But that would go against what he learned from Tobey and Andrew's Peters in No Way Home about how they let their grief and rage consume them and that it doesn't end well.
fPeter running and turning to just Spiderman does sound like something that would be cool to see but I also am super attached to the way the Spiderman movies were. I would like to see that part of Spiderman where he denies anything to deal with relationships but the entire part of Spiderman is jumping between them and trying to make things work and that does have me attached. You even see in the miles Morales Spiderman moves that there's a spider verse and canon events where they all have to have these personal events between Spiderman AND Peter Parker/Miles Morales. I hope they can make some really emotional parts that REALLY FIT with Spiderman avoiding the relationships.
If we got the fantastic 4 earlier we could have a peter/johnny rooming together. Movie adaption of the comic,have him be one of the few friends. He have as peter and then have johnny find out hes spidernan and have them team up. Since this first movie is kinda a soft reset,have that kinda build up to secrets wars.
I think i wanna see a movie on how spiderman the game went theres 2 different spidermans they start off best buds then they get jealous of each other and fight til the death
If theres no black cat then i feel like we will see Pete & betty brant dont forget in the last movie she said MJs iconic phrase about him "go get em Tiger"...
i was just thinking about how tom has that new homemade suit and avengers 5 spider-man 4 and secret wars all take place back to back. he’s definitely going to get an upgrade at some point likely the black suit because that homemade suit is definitely gonna get torn up after a couple fights
Idk how I feel about this. Would’ve made more sense before doomsday. Idk how he’s going back to normal spidey with all the multiverse stuff going on. I hope it’s great though!
If Spider-Man 4 hadn't been cancelled in 2010, Tobey Maguire would still be Spider-Man and would still be part of the MCU and would be the only Spider-Man just like Hugh Jackman's Wolverine.
@@MontclairBearexactly. people just like to talk lol when the MCU is established, regardless to when that happened, marvel would’ve cast their own Spider-Man, as they did, with Tom Holland. Son movies are separate at the end of the day
i´d love to see something like spectacular spiderman where Felicia tries to take his dad out of prison for the murder of Ben Parker and this lead into a flashback of Peter not saving uncle Ben and realizing himself that With Great Power comes great responsibility, and then Peter realizing that his time with the Avengers had pushed him away from his believes but Aunt May was there to remind him of what he used to stand for
I was hoping to see a long franchise of Spider-Man growing and meeting new villains. It's rare to see a hero be a professional at it. Tired of the newbie/early development stages..
This plot leak makes perfect sense. Why would he want to be Peter and risk personal relationships after losing Aunt May and ned and MJ and Tony.. go full out SPIDERMAN. awesome
Imagine if the movie has end credits that end with Peter on his way to the bugle hiding his suit under his clothes before going in and bumps into someone. Peter is like, “oh I’m so sorry” he sees the logo on the front of the files the man dropped, oscorp? “oh and my names peter it’s nice to meet you” “nice my names harry, nice to meet you too” it ends there
That makes no sense, studying for college entrance exams even in the hardest possible situation where u have no one left doesn't give me the impression of someone that gave up on that part of his life. If he was truly now I'm just spiderman now he would easily just get any job to make ends meet (photographer) and not do anything else that clearly indicates self improvement or that requires social interactions.
I don't think my choice of a villain would be very popular but I kind of want Hobgoblin (maybe played by Robert Pattinson or someone else). I think if Roderick Kingsley comes in, it would be an interesting way to bring MJ and Ned back into the plot. In the comics, I am pretty sure Kingsley was MJ's employer and MJ became a young model. He is also a fashion designer while also a criminal mastermind (maybe Kingpin hires him or asks him a favor). Kingsley also brainwashed Ned in the comics to make him a variant of Hobgoblin and go after Peter, it could be interesting to see peter battle someone who was once his best friend. What I also think would be very cool is that if the Hobgoblin had the ability of a sorcerer like doctor Strange. The variant Hobgoblin of Ned was a sorcerer in the comics, but they could switch it up to let Kingsley be the sorcerer instead (I'm thinking Kingsley might have been a former student in Kama Taj or something like that). I think if Doctor doom was going to destroy or effect the multiverse in someway after Avengers Doomsday, incursions start happening more frequently. This might be the reason we see Michael Keaton's Vulture in the Sonyverse, maybe time and space were so unstable he travels back and forth multiple times (I'm assuming the scene Morbius meets Vulture is taking place during the time after Avengers Doomsday). We could also see villains like Kraven the Hunter and Rhino come to the MCU and form some sort of sinister six (or seven) lead by Kingsley who hires them. We could even see the return of Tom Hardy's Eddie Brock, as the multiverse starts to move unstably, he travels back to the MCU. Maybe Eddie bonds with the piece of Venom left in the MCU and fights Peter (at one point), and them teams up with him after,
I actually think it would be great if Toby and Andrew came back and made the younger Peter realise that he just can’t keep being Spider-Man without Peter Parker.. It would make a really good closer to the advice they both gave in no way home
I would like to see Silk since it is supposedly a 'multiversal' film, and before they introduce Miles. If they introduce the Black Cat or Silk and they end up 'involved', the MCU better think about making it a Rated R film, for obvious reasons, ESPECIALLY for Silk, lol. Tom Holland's Spidey never got an 'origin' story, so introducing Silk they can explore that... I'm not saying I wouldn't want to see Felicia though. I think singer Ciara would be perfect because she has a body on her the way I think Felicia would and looks alot younger than 39 or maybe Zoe Kravitz (36). Paris Belec would be a good Silk...
I mean, technically, Doctor Strange does know because in Doctor Strange Multiverse of madness he actually confirmed with the American Chavez. They said they’re talking about the fate of Spider-Man and of course, Doctor Strange would know since he’s the one that did the spell it so technically strange does know who he is.
Peter Parker should be allowed to have more solo adventures so he can grow as a character.
Agreed. Kinda hard having Spiderman without having Peter Parker. But I guess we’ll see 🤷🏾♂️
They need to get rid of the actor who plays Ned Leeds and this MJ because these are not the correct MJ or Ned leads at all in the comics. Ned Leeds is not a fat black kid, and MJ is not a black teenager-she's a redheaded white chick!
@@anubusx is easier for Kevin to do it after spiderman 4 since tom holland spiderman will still be there and sony have given up allready.
@@quadphonics bro its not serious n ned aint even black🤣 and your right but zendaya still did better than dunst
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I like the premise. Peter Parker trying to run away from Peter Parker. A great inner conflict.
Yeah, I just wish the movie was given more time to breath, but because Secret Wars and Doomsday are so close, it likely won't get that, but I'm optimistic the movie is gonna be good.
I feel like MJ and Ned should probably just go away for a few movies and let peter settle into his spiderman persona and focus on cultivating new friendships and relationships. Then possibly bring them back down the line
I think Ned needs a hobgoblin arc. The NWH alluded to it
Wasn’t it rumored that Ned was going to turn into the green goblin or hobgoblin or green goblin in some sorta twist.
a few movies...? this is possibly the last tom spiderman movie, there's absolutely no room to do that.
@@katgreer6113 he has another 3 movies lol 4 5 6
Idk about a few movies. 1 or 2 is fine. Probably 1.5-1.75 movies.
And movie studios STILL fail to see the point that we want to see our heroes TRIUMPH over their adversity, not keep dying.
@@manxdarcqpaw744 amy pascal have confirmed this the biggest mistake we did was to not have spiderman inn ssu littery she said it. Now are focus is only on tom holland spiderman, beyond the spiderverse and noir and we will never do a villian movie without spiderman again. So sony did learn but to late for there own univers atleast they deleted that univers now
Except that most of the time the heroes DO TRIUMPH over adversity and survive. Movie studios do see the point, and your statement is completely invalid and wrong. Why you even said this is beyond me, you're the one who doesn't get it.
But, who cares what you think anyway.
Thank you! Its sad to see them keep ruining franchises for no reason
Huh? What heroes have died?
@@carinahatlevoll153was that English?
This is the perfect way they could introduce black cat like literally! He doesn't want anything to with his personal life and then he meets black cat AS spiderman. She doesn't need to know who he is and work together for sometime then eventually they become lovers.
If they kill peter off and bring in miles I'm officially DONE!
I agree Peter & Miles can both coexist and both be Spider-Man at the same time if they can do it in comics and the cartoons, they can do in the movies too. If Miles come into live action it dose not mean that is the end Peter Parker & Spider-Man or just Spider-Man
Cya ✌️ don't let the door hit you on the way out!
@@VirusZero0140it won’t hit him in the way out because he’s right. Peter is the main character of the series killing him off will ruin he MCU
spiderman: miles away from home
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You do know that Peter dies and the spider with Peter dna bites miles his dna in one of the comics right ???
End of Peter is an interesting description, which it's most likely the case that Peter will mainly be Spiderman for a big portion of his screen time, and any sort of stuff with Peter not being Spiderman will be small screentime wise
Let's see a Tobey & Hugh team-up where Tobey evolves into the Man-Spider
I hope this turns out to be true
Kinda like Robert Pattinson’s Batman. Batman had a lot of screen time while Bruce Wayne had small screen time.&
The End of Petervangelion
He could hang out with a really good lawyer
That's why I think Spiderman should get the black suit in Doomsday because in the 4th Spiderman, that suit can build off that loneliness. That can be the theme of the entire movie loneliness. That's why Venom will be a great villain in Spider man 4 ( Sony Japan spoiled it) because Venom died in the third one. we can see Eddie struggling without him. Then, in a dark scene Finding Peter through the daily bugle and taking the suit, making this venom a true villain.
I can see venom being a villain in spidey 5. I think just Eddie will be introduced in spidey 4
@BM-sg1sl yeah maybe but like I said Sony Japan kinda spoiled it and you know Sony they love to rush things.
Thanks for the spoiler. You should always wait with spoilers at least a year after the movie dropped. Venom 3 is still in theaters, you dunce.
@@FuzzyFoot58 lol. I think exceptions are made for crap movies like Venom 3
@FuzzyFoot58 I'm sorry a year come on man also Venom 3 came on VD today that sounds like more of a you problem
The man under the mask is why we love Spider-Man!
Lmaoooo what about Batman tho he under the mask too lol
SpiderMan 4- no way we just killed the multiverse
I hate people like you 🙄
Black Cat deserves to be in the cinematic film she’s been in comics, tv shows and even video games it’s best for her to be in the film too.
Man nah bruh the title alone made me almost cry 😂😂😂😂😂😭
Peter Parker isn't dead but I get what they're saying but headline probably doesn't help with that. Personally I have no interest in Miles Morales(I understand if you grew up and that character was created and you got into it, I can see why but its not for me).
I've been very indifferent about Miles Morales as well, because he just hasn't been Spider-Man for me anywhere as much as we obviously still associate Spider-Man with Peter Parker.
This current thing of having two different characters carrying the Spider-Man mantle at the same time reminds me of when Ben Reilly/Scarlet Spider existed in the comics during the 90s, only he was Peter's literal clone during that infamous Clone Saga story arc. It's one thing if they've been wanting Miles to be an alternative iteration of Spider-Man, but I just think it would be a huge mistake if they ever wanted to substitute Peter for him altogether and then never want to do anything more with the OG Spider-Man again.
Agreed I’m pretty indifferent. I think there’s a lot of potential with it but I don’t really care too much. It’s like a movie I’d still go see, but wouldn’t care too much about the future of it
@@nicksorenson940 Im tired of seeing him everywhere and taking the spotlight from peter
@@french_toast223He’s not taking the spotlight
I’m in between on that like I love Peter Parker he’s the OG but miles is so cool he should’ve be shown in the mainstream movies like a good ending to the raimi movies to make people like him more and I can relate to them both which is why I’m in between on that opinion
Just hope it is a well written story 😊
Well if nobody remembers Peter Parker, then he can use the name Peter Parker.
We fans don’t want end to Peter Parker’s story
Its a nod to the comic arc peter parker no more. Its when peter chose to pursue his spider-man carrer at the cost of himself.
I still don't understand how she is in anyway involved. She left Sony but they still have her involved? I never understood how she could work that deal.
She owns a major stake in the Spiderman IP if I’m not mistaken. Her and that scum Avi Arad hold the majority. Hence why Sony hasn’t outright sold back to Sony. It’s those two stopping it.
What villains do I want? of them!!!!
I would like to see Mr. Negative. I would like a Gang War of some kind involving Tombstone, Hammerhead, Silvermane, Kingpin, The Rose, Black Tarantula, The Owl, Hobgoblin. I would like the Jackal and a nod to a potential Clone Saga film. I would like the Smythes and their Spider-Slayers. I would like The Scorpion (finally). I would like to see some secondary characters like White Tiger, Black Cat, Puma, Nocturne, Batwing, Bluebird, Agent Venom, Speedball, Silver Sable, Hobie Brown's Prowler, Nightwatch, Rocket Racer, Solo, Cardiac, Paladin, Chance, Coldheart, Poison, Corona, Delilah, The Slingers; Prodigy, Hornet, Dusk & Ricocet.
Personally... what I would love to see.... I want a new Norman Osborn. I know the Norman from No Way Home said he looked and couldn't fine any trace of a Norman in this universe.
That's an easy fix. Norman was crossing into top secret research so the government whisked him away, erased his existence and put his ex-wife and son Harry into witness protection. Then when the snap happened, he was freed but realized he had to operate off the radar. So instead of "Oscorp", he assumed the role of Tyler Stone and created Alchemax. Alchemax would be the new Oscorp. And Kingpin would fund Alchemax for all sorts of programs to help take down vigilantes of which a whole floor or two would be dedicated to Spider-man. For that they would have robotics experts like Mendell Stromm, Otto Octavius (or Olivia Octavius), Phineas Mason and Spencer and Alistair Smythe. They would have genetic experts like Miles Warren, Michael Morbius and Farley Stillwell that have a team dedicated to trying to find trace DNA of Spider-man. On top of potentially cloning Peter, they could work with Damage Control to "acquire" alien samples of the Outriders and use that to clone them and create the Dopplegangers. They could create a mutagen that transforms Peter into Man-Spider.
If I were Sony.... instead of making films about characters and not being able to have Spider-man in them, I would work out a deal with Disney for a Disney plus series called "Tangled Web" where each episode could be devoted to an origin story of a Spider-man related character. I can have (but doesn't have to) Spider-man in it or culminate to a conclusion whereby Spider-man could just be reserved for the final episode. Tangled Web season 1 could explore flashbacks for Norman and his return to power to creating Alchemax and each episode could be him assembling the "professionals" to fill his lab with. Tangled Web season 2 could explore the secondary characters and perhaps The Game storyline whereby many compete for a prize. The third season could explore the Clone Saga.
Bro, you should be the riders at Sony because my God if this is how the Sony Spider-Man universe was people probably have no complaints a true Spider-Man fan right here👏👏👏
Let him cook, my guy has what it takes to be the next Kevin feige 🙌
Crap i never read so many villains and this is what sony needz to do instead of making villain only movies their spiderman villains
Pretty cool news and it would make for a good movie
I smell Black Cat in the future!!!!
Same I can just taste her 🐱
7:47 Bout damn time we see BLACK CAT!!!!
Okay at least it seems they are dealing with him being ground level for part of the movie. I wonder what this means for him being in college, maybe he’s more of a recluse and instead of taking photos for the bugle it will maybe be videos? I feel like all these plans are great but I think all of it happening within the Doomsday stuff will be a lot! It honestly would have been great if it was King Pin
The end of Peter Parker? NOOOOOOOO!!!!!! 😭😭😭😭
I still don’t get this, everyone forgot who Peter Parker was but does his spider suits forget who he is? You can’t delete him from the stark tech. Also, what about Edith he still has that too.
They do forget. That's why he has the new suit at the end of the film. He had to make a new one from scratch.
He didn't wear the Stark spider suit at the end of No Way Home, he wore his own hand made spider suit.
More Spidey should be good and I can't wait to see him working in the Daily Bugle
Pretty cool having Spiderman for about 90%of the film😮😮
That does make sense, plot and story wise. Pete will be pouring his WHOLE being into his alter-ego. But I can see a bit of a call back to Homecoming when Peter did that to try to be an Avenger. Again, that's me overthinking it. But it could mean something differently. Idk.
I think like people stated that he ruining from his civil life so he will not be hurt again. Perfect time for venom thu. Also the fact andrew said the same to him no way home dont run away from being peter parker i dont want you to end up like me bitter and angry and stoping puling back. So I predict andrew vs tom if it is a multiverse movie. Andrew need to kick him out off it
Seeing more Spider-Man than Peter Parker is something that hasn't been done before in live action. I think this is a good thing and will have an amazing story. I'm cool with a multiversal story as long as they show a decent amount of street level. 👍
For the portion of the movie that is not multiversal(if possible at all), I do wanna see Kingpin as the guy behind scenes, and maybe have like Scorpion be his goon that attacks Spidey and then Daredevil(and if possible, Black Cat) team up. If this portion lasts like at least an hour and a half, then they could go any route with the Multiverse thing.
I just hope they don’t screw it up, just keep making good movies with Spidey
We don't want to lose our Peter. It's SO hard! Ugh.
FINALLY
We’ve been waiting for Black Cat and she’s finally here!!!
Tbh I think she can offer so much more depth to the story because to me MJ and Gwen felt similar, at least their storylines with Spider Man did
Go for black cat!
I just want to know when will Peter get the symbiote suit
The comics would suggest Secret Wars 🤷♂️
I am glad because that means we are getting the max amount of screen time with his beautiful red and blue suit
I hope the next villain is the scorpion because of the apearence of mack gargon in Spiderman homecoming, and on top of for to take some inspiration from the comics to have J Johna jameson fund the money for the experiment that mack gargon into the scorpion.
Dude if scorpion is not in spider man 4 ima be so pissed
Exactly i remember i use to have the toy from the 90s show then he was in homecoming n they just threw him to the side i dont want to see another venom or goblin untill we see more villains 1st
They teased him at homecoming and he disspeared. So sad.
don't blame her, its only sony. she's fine. don't pull her in cosmic that's bad.
Jacob Batalon has been off the grid, and made his Instagram on private. he definitely on that gym grind, and ready to be hob goblin
Predictions of the Sinister 6:
Scorpion-the leader of the group.🦂
Chameleon-(Peter’s bus driver in FFH) after Mysterio’s death, Chameleon uses his illusion tech to create a mask that will allow him to change his appearance.🎭
Spider Slayer-a paralyzed scientist that created his own iron man like spider suit.🕷️
Razorback-the muscle of the group. Probably will look like a humanoid warthog like Bebop.🐗
Vermin-a geneticist that experimented on himself, transforming himself into a humanoid rat.🐀
Hobgoblin-Ned was kidnapped and experimented with a serum that corrupted him and probably will use his magic to fight Spider-Man.👹
Hell no
I want to see Venom, as Sony Japan confirmed he's coming to the MCU with Spider-Man 4
Why hasn't NWH made it into Disney Plus yet?
It’s the end of Peter because no one knows who Peter is.
He’s not going anywhere.
It makes sense, especially after no way home. He'll barely be Peter due to the spell. I think eventually find a way to drop the spell in a way where it'll only be to people who he wants to know. Family and friends.
Favorite Hero: Batman
Crazy how the street level storyline will be multiversal for this now
Miles Isn’t going to be Spider-Man in the reboot so idk why they’d even bring him in unless he’s a part of each one of these next 3 Spider-Man movies
How long till Sony sells the rights of Spider-Man and all the characters from his comics back to marvel and Disney just like how Disney got the rights for the Fantastic Four and the X-Men from Fox to use in the MCU? If that happened sooner, Do you think we would have seen Tobey Maguire Spider-Man in the Deadpool and Wolverine movie?
Don't hold ur breath this ain't a charity
@@jayrock2754I think Disney is wealthy enough to just buy Sony
@@dannycostorf393they can’t 😂😂😂
I don't know what to say about Spider-Man after the messed up ending of Spider-Man No Way Home meaning messed up as in being alone with no family and friends along with being forgotten from everyone's mind and everything he worked hard for as Peter Parker like academics gone down the drain since he's been wiped out of all the school records and how everyone thinks he killed his own aunt as well as still believing the lies of Mysterio. I say the writers went too far with this even if everyone doesn't agree with me
to be fair this has always been spidermans life look at andrew garfiled spider man besides his aunt who else does he have?
I agree..... And the move want that good truthfully. Nostalgia aside
That has always been spider man's story, one of tragedy where he loses everything, even his girl MJ usually goes after the frat boy and cheats on him multiple times before realizing peter's the 1 for her and coming back to him and peter accepting her like a chump
Nah, man they should just keep spider man for spider man 5 and 6 swinging alongside miles morales [most times] and the rest of it, bonding with miles, harry osborn,ned,mj, flash thompson and possibly gwen stacy and ganke lee
I actually like the direction this movie is going in and Spider-Man getting with Black Cat as a couple would be pretty cool. I hope the other two Spider-Men show up at the beginning of the film instead of at the end but if they’re going to be in the movie, where will they be staying at house wise?
This idea can really develop peter Parker in a way we have not seen before and it will be interesting what brings him back so to speak
Depends on what villain they want, will decide the actor
If it was me, I would use the idea of Kingpin hiring certain villains to take out Spiderman like Hammerhead, Scorpion, Tombstone. Introducing newer villains to live action while having familiar faces like Kingpin
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The comics have explored Peter going through a "Spider-Man no more" as well as a "Peter Parker no more" plot.
Honestly, it's good timing as they could have Spidey interact with Johnny Storm with FF introduced prior to Doomsday and Spidey 4 releasing after it.
I do wish we were getting a Spidey/Daredevil team up with city wide gang war as the conflict, though.
Multiverse ruined Spider-Man for this version it should have been grounded and they refuse to budge
How crazy would it be if RDJ remembers Peter Parker from ‘another life’ and Peter recognizes him too. That would be an insanely emotional scene depending on Dooms ruthlessness
Black Cat makes sense if you think about the possibility of the Kingpin, Daredevil, The Punisher, etc, being added to the MCU. Daredevil has already been in the MCU, all-be-it in his lawyer persona. They all take place around the same area, so the more the merrier!
I can’t wait for Spider-Man 4!
All I hope for is the suit being upgraded to have raised webbing and not being covered up with CGI like 90% of the time.
Peter Parker Is Not Dead
I heard something about maybe iron man could come back bc they could get him through time travel, and it would be a great wholesome moment if when iron comes back he knows peter bc he didn't get affected by the spell
i feel like this is fresh take on the spider-man story im interested
7:28 i love this idea so much the thought of Spidey and Felicia having a relationship until he realises he needs to be peter parker again, and that’s the draw back to MJ for Pete. i hope they steal this from you 😂😂
I don’t mind the direction they are taking SM4 as long as these are the films that follow 🎥:
SM5 - SM & DD team up against Kingpin & Scorpion
SM6 - Peter mentors Miles and they fight against Mr. Negative & Prowler
"To not make TASM 3"
it should be a crime to make someone choose
I seem to remember hearing something about how Zendaya WASN'T going to be part of the next 3 Spider-Man movies.
(Plus she is not listed on IMDB as being in it either and that is where I get my trusted info from).
Giggity Giggity all right
Starts with a line we have known for over 3 years.
it all just makes me think they have no idea where to take spiderman. personally that character deserves a show on Disney+ but a long season instead of a long movie broken down into 9 episodes. now would be the perfect time to show us what peter in the mcu is doing post no way home and show us his journey from the bottom to back to the top
Honestly my personal take on the whole situation is that Mr. Negative should be the villain of Fantastic 4, escape into the multiverse and into the MCU with the Fantastic 4 following him leading to a Spider-Man 4 movie where the Fantastic 4 are stranded and confused in the MCU version of New York City with Spider-Man going toe to toe with Mr. Negative. Black Cat and a couple other side villains can also still be in the movie in the first act or something. Also, this would help explain how Dr. Doom finds his way into the MCU in the form of a post credit scene for Fantastic 4 where the still normal Victor Von Doom gets pulled from his universe by Mr. Negative and gets sent to the MCU where he learns about alien technology and forms evil intentions. One last note, this level of interconnectivity between Fantastic 4 and Spider-Man 4 would help the MCU feel more like there an over-arching story with a clear purpose and plot at play within the MCU and not some haphazardly thrown together version of Dr. Doom just suddenly appearing in an Avengers movie after being in one post credits scene.
One day they will decide to give the fans spider-man movies starting from high school to adulthood.
I think it would be very funny and cool if we got that scene where Peter breaks into the Baxter Building to ask the Fantastic 4 for job because he needs money and they all laugh at him
I personally would like to see Spider-Man grow a little more violent but also just as funny as the comics, just cause since he’s so distraught as Peter, he handles his emotions through being a superhero and cracking jokes left and right
Hulk knows, hulk will always know🤘🤘🤘
that’d be an amazing scene for Avengers 5/6
@@ttt9830 they have not interacted even once yet for this to make sense lol
@@DireNemesisthey did interact once.
@@DireNemesis how would that not make sense?
no spell needs to be broken. he could just approach happy or pepper, who would still know spiderman is one of the good guys, and reveal himself to them. money problem solved.
if hes done being peter, does that mean hes done being nice too? if so the anger and frustration he may go into this movie with could help fuel his anger when we get the black suit
But that would go against what he learned from Tobey and Andrew's Peters in No Way Home about how they let their grief and rage consume them and that it doesn't end well.
Im excited for
Spider-man 4
fPeter running and turning to just Spiderman does sound like something that would be cool to see but I also am super attached to the way the Spiderman movies were. I would like to see that part of Spiderman where he denies anything to deal with relationships but the entire part of Spiderman is jumping between them and trying to make things work and that does have me attached. You even see in the miles Morales Spiderman moves that there's a spider verse and canon events where they all have to have these personal events between Spiderman AND Peter Parker/Miles Morales. I hope they can make some really emotional parts that REALLY FIT with Spiderman avoiding the relationships.
If we got the fantastic 4 earlier we could have a peter/johnny rooming together. Movie adaption of the comic,have him be one of the few friends. He have as peter and then have johnny find out hes spidernan and have them team up. Since this first movie is kinda a soft reset,have that kinda build up to secrets wars.
I think i wanna see a movie on how spiderman the game went theres 2 different spidermans they start off best buds then they get jealous of each other and fight til the death
If theres no black cat then i feel like we will see Pete & betty brant dont forget in the last movie she said MJs iconic phrase about him "go get em Tiger"...
i was just thinking about how tom has that new homemade suit and avengers 5 spider-man 4 and secret wars all take place back to back. he’s definitely going to get an upgrade at some point likely the black suit because that homemade suit is definitely gonna get torn up after a couple fights
So a darker version of the one more day storyline? Wow I hate when I'm right
Idk how I feel about this. Would’ve made more sense before doomsday. Idk how he’s going back to normal spidey with all the multiverse stuff going on. I hope it’s great though!
If Spider-Man 4 hadn't been cancelled in 2010, Tobey Maguire would still be Spider-Man and would still be part of the MCU and would be the only Spider-Man just like Hugh Jackman's Wolverine.
No, due to Peter’s age tobey would NOT be the only Spider-Man in the MCU. Maybe we would have gotten miles morales in 2017 though
@@MontclairBearexactly. people just like to talk lol when the MCU is established, regardless to when that happened, marvel would’ve cast their own Spider-Man, as they did, with Tom Holland. Son movies are separate at the end of the day
Thank God that didn't happen
Goodbye old friend. Thanks for being my childhood hero.
Sounds like he's getting some Superhero company so less lonely.
i´d love to see something like spectacular spiderman where Felicia tries to take his dad out of prison for the murder of Ben Parker and this lead into a flashback of Peter not saving uncle Ben and realizing himself that With Great Power comes great responsibility, and then Peter realizing that his time with the Avengers had pushed him away from his believes but Aunt May was there to remind him of what he used to stand for
Caleb McLaughlin as Miles would be dope!
I was hoping to see a long franchise of Spider-Man growing and meeting new villains. It's rare to see a hero be a professional at it. Tired of the newbie/early development stages..
This plot leak makes perfect sense. Why would he want to be Peter and risk personal relationships after losing Aunt May and ned and MJ and Tony.. go full out SPIDERMAN. awesome
Imagine if the movie has end credits that end with Peter on his way to the bugle hiding his suit under his clothes before going in and bumps into someone. Peter is like, “oh I’m so sorry” he sees the logo on the front of the files the man dropped, oscorp? “oh and my names peter it’s nice to meet you” “nice my names harry, nice to meet you too” it ends there
That makes no sense, studying for college entrance exams even in the hardest possible situation where u have no one left doesn't give me the impression of someone that gave up on that part of his life. If he was truly now I'm just spiderman now he would easily just get any job to make ends meet (photographer) and not do anything else that clearly indicates self improvement or that requires social interactions.
I don't think my choice of a villain would be very popular but I kind of want Hobgoblin (maybe played by Robert Pattinson or someone else). I think if Roderick Kingsley comes in, it would be an interesting way to bring MJ and Ned back into the plot. In the comics, I am pretty sure Kingsley was MJ's employer and MJ became a young model. He is also a fashion designer while also a criminal mastermind (maybe Kingpin hires him or asks him a favor). Kingsley also brainwashed Ned in the comics to make him a variant of Hobgoblin and go after Peter, it could be interesting to see peter battle someone who was once his best friend. What I also think would be very cool is that if the Hobgoblin had the ability of a sorcerer like doctor Strange. The variant Hobgoblin of Ned was a sorcerer in the comics, but they could switch it up to let Kingsley be the sorcerer instead (I'm thinking Kingsley might have been a former student in Kama Taj or something like that). I think if Doctor doom was going to destroy or effect the multiverse in someway after Avengers Doomsday, incursions start happening more frequently. This might be the reason we see Michael Keaton's Vulture in the Sonyverse, maybe time and space were so unstable he travels back and forth multiple times (I'm assuming the scene Morbius meets Vulture is taking place during the time after Avengers Doomsday). We could also see villains like Kraven the Hunter and Rhino come to the MCU and form some sort of sinister six (or seven) lead by Kingsley who hires them. We could even see the return of Tom Hardy's Eddie Brock, as the multiverse starts to move unstably, he travels back to the MCU. Maybe Eddie bonds with the piece of Venom left in the MCU and fights Peter (at one point), and them teams up with him after,
I actually think it would be great if Toby and Andrew came back and made the younger Peter realise that he just can’t keep being Spider-Man without Peter Parker.. It would make a really good closer to the advice they both gave in no way home
I would like to see Silk since it is supposedly a 'multiversal' film, and before they introduce Miles. If they introduce the Black Cat or Silk and they end up 'involved', the MCU better think about making it a Rated R film, for obvious reasons, ESPECIALLY for Silk, lol.
Tom Holland's Spidey never got an 'origin' story, so introducing Silk they can explore that...
I'm not saying I wouldn't want to see Felicia though. I think singer Ciara would be perfect because she has a body on her the way I think Felicia would and looks alot younger than 39 or maybe Zoe Kravitz (36). Paris Belec would be a good Silk...
I want to see the Hob Goblin eventually
Hopefully they mention Felicia Hardy father as the first black cat
If he’s going to be spiderman more hope we see black cat
Just wait bro until the movie comes out making all these guesses
I mean, technically, Doctor Strange does know because in Doctor Strange Multiverse of madness he actually confirmed with the American Chavez. They said they’re talking about the fate of Spider-Man and of course, Doctor Strange would know since he’s the one that did the spell it so technically strange does know who he is.