That's basically what I tried to simulate with my Helix. I add the acoustic sim since I don't have an acoustic guitar. What I do (I think it can be done with the Boss Octave) is send the 5th and 6th strings (and a bit of the 4th) only, to the Octave Pedal so I can simulate a bass player while playing. Great sound and tips. Thanks for sharing.
At the moment I'm still using the AC-3 from ZOOM, which, in addition to guitar simulations, has a compressor, EQ, and reverb or delay, chorus, etc. in one pedal. The AC-3 also has a tuner, a booster, and pickup adjustment built in. In addition to the normal mono/stereo output, there's also a balanced output on the back for both stereo channels. That's enough for my needs. I also have a LOOPER from Boss, an RC30, and two stomp boxes to hammer out rhythm with my feet. I then play the whole thing through an acoustic amp from Boss, the Boss Accoustic Singer Pro.
Pretty similar to the setup I used for solo gigs for many years. I did have an overdrive which was nice for adding some attitude to solos or even chords on more edgy or rocking songs. I highly recommend upgrading the delay pedal to something with a tap tempo, saves a lot of knob turning which audiences don't particularly want to watch lol, and also much more effectively locks in your parts with the song. I had the same octave pedal, but I ended up swapping it out for a boss harmonist, which is an oddball pedal that does a ton of really cool things from the octave to a chorus effect to a whammy pedal to three-part harmonies on lead lines. And finally I had a TC Helicon voice live for adding some effects and harmonies to my vocals. I also used a loop pedal with an XLR input so I could run a mic through it and loop some vocal parts too which adds a whole other layer of interest to arrangements.
I use a similar set up, but I have the LR Baggs Venue, the RC 600, the Strymon Dig and Blue Sky. I also use the Octave for bass. I do not have a chorus pedal, but I really love how it sounded here. One thing I have been considering is building out a smaller pedal board. The RC 600 turns the pedal board into a beast cause it's so freaking big. For my more involved gigs I'm running a Roland Handsonic and Keyboard. But man I would love to have a simpler set up for corner in the bar gigs and yours really fits the bill. Thanks!
great video, thanks for some inspiration, ended up with a CH-1, cloudburst, OC-5 and then went for the Strymon Brig for delay instead of the MXR :D What was the song at 6:00 and 10:30?
6:00 wasn't a song, just random chords! And 10:30 was Times Like These by the Foo Fighters. Sounds like you've got a great setup! Damn that Strymon delay must be nice.
Nice setup. I have a similar board except at the beginning of the chain I use a TC Impulse loader for acoustic sim with my Yamaha LS6M passive piezo and I put the Fishman at the very end using the XLR out. Cheers.
I have a question for pedal routing ,i have nux optima air its bassically ir for acoustic guitar with send/return, boss oc 3, tuner, deluxe memori man delay, tc elect booster , ambience reverb and boss looper. Can you give me suggestion for the optimum signal routing ? . Thanks in advance 🙏
I'm assuming you are using a regular amp, so I'm left wondering how these pedals would work with an amp designed for acoustic guitars? Acoustic-oriented amp makers also seem to discourage using an overdrive/distortion pedal.
Great vid! very informative. I am interested in the Fishman Platinum. I use a TC Helicon acoustic guitar/vocal processor pedal ("Play Acoustic") when I play live. Would they work together?
Same, but I’d be looking to ditch the Play Acoustic for the Fishman Platinum. Would be helpful if I could see your settings can’t quite make them out 👍🏻
You have great playing skills and great tone with that thing. I've seen people use Wah pedals with acoustic for lead with great effect. Curious what pickup you are using.
@@SamHortonMusic I just bought a Taylor 314 50th anniversary with torrefied sound board. Makes me think I can get good plugged in tone with it with some EQ. Thinking of getting a cheap IR loader from TC Electronic.
@@SamHortonMusichad big problems with es2 in Taylor gs mini . Too harsh and brittle . I understand you need 7oz of pressure on piezo crystals . Needs digital tool . Shop couldn’t fix it and gave me my money back .
I don't have an issue with turning it off but the timing has to be spot on as with all looping. The most annoying feature of this looper is when you want to clear the loop you hold the pedal down but the loop plays back for a few seconds until it clears. To get around this I usually just turn the loop pedal down or the volume down on the mixer, but it's an annoying feature which I'll probably look to upgrade in the future.
Great setup but I would change one major thing. Remove that polytuner and get a Peterson stomp mini tuner instead. Smaller footprint, for one thing, and far, far more accurate tuning. Don't believe me? Try it! You won't believe what that tiny bit of extra of fine-tuning makes.
It’s a Strymon Cloudburst. An excellent reverb pedal but it’s the ensemble switch that adds beautiful synth undertones. Highly recommended and very addictive!
Bonjour. J'ai une question. Si vous pouvez me répondre merci. Dans mon pedalier et pour le son que je recherche, je voudrais donner de ma guitares electro acoustique Une Épaisseur et je me demande si la pedale Octave de boss si je la regle sans delirer trop peut me donner une Épaisseur. Pouvez vous me dire ????
got a relatively cheap nux optima air, a mini compressor and a tuner in my acoustic board .. just perfect for my acoustic needs .. planning to tryout a bodyrez soon though .. 😊
I highly recommend the LR Baggs Voice Print pedal to start the chain. It's a great pedal that captures the true sound of any acoustical guitar.
That's basically what I tried to simulate with my Helix. I add the acoustic sim since I don't have an acoustic guitar. What I do (I think it can be done with the Boss Octave) is send the 5th and 6th strings (and a bit of the 4th) only, to the Octave Pedal so I can simulate a bass player while playing. Great sound and tips. Thanks for sharing.
Interesting! Haven't looked into the Helix yet, will check it out for sure. Thanks for watching!
I tried and tried. Helix just didn’t track fast enough for my taste.
@@skylork1990 apologies: English isn’t my first language. What do you mean by “tracking fast enough “?
Repeating the note while you’re playing.
@@skylork1990 Thank you!!
At the moment I'm still using the AC-3 from ZOOM, which, in addition to guitar simulations, has a compressor, EQ, and reverb or delay, chorus, etc. in one pedal.
The AC-3 also has a tuner, a booster, and pickup adjustment built in.
In addition to the normal mono/stereo output, there's also a balanced output on the back for both stereo channels.
That's enough for my needs.
I also have a LOOPER from Boss, an RC30, and two stomp boxes to hammer out rhythm with my feet.
I then play the whole thing through an acoustic amp from Boss, the Boss Accoustic Singer Pro.
Nice, haven't tried it. Will take a look!
Thank you very much!! Great demo!
My pleasure!
Pretty similar to the setup I used for solo gigs for many years. I did have an overdrive which was nice for adding some attitude to solos or even chords on more edgy or rocking songs. I highly recommend upgrading the delay pedal to something with a tap tempo, saves a lot of knob turning which audiences don't particularly want to watch lol, and also much more effectively locks in your parts with the song. I had the same octave pedal, but I ended up swapping it out for a boss harmonist, which is an oddball pedal that does a ton of really cool things from the octave to a chorus effect to a whammy pedal to three-part harmonies on lead lines. And finally I had a TC Helicon voice live for adding some effects and harmonies to my vocals. I also used a loop pedal with an XLR input so I could run a mic through it and loop some vocal parts too which adds a whole other layer of interest to arrangements.
Thanks for the feedback, definitely some nice additions to consider!!
Thank you for sharing .best of luck
Thank you too
That was awesome! Thank you. That cloudburst has been on my radar for awhile now!
It's so good!
@SamHortonMusic have you heard of the Black Hole pedal? I was thinking about getting that pedal until I seen the cloudburst.
Nice setup !
Thanks!
Buena pedalera! Probé hace años el fishman pero lo devolví porque eliminaba las percusiones, una pena.
How did it eliminate the percussions?
IS THAT A PICTURE OF IAN ANDERSON IN THE BACKGROUND? He is an incredible musician- love all the Jethro Tull catalog! Great video!
It’s a photo of Heisenberg from the series Breaking Bad
Very nice video, would have been nice to see you play the guitar on another camera as you make the changes.
Next time!
Very cool! Great video.
Thanks!
really nice set up there Sam! I have a trex Soulmate acoustic but I want to do a pedalboard that is more versatile, thanks for the inspiration
Haven't tried the soulmate, will have to test one!
Nice set up man. Seems like all you need. Maybe a vocal harmonizer?
Definitely, I've been thinking about a vocal harmonizer for a while.
I use a similar set up, but I have the LR Baggs Venue, the RC 600, the Strymon Dig and Blue Sky. I also use the Octave for bass. I do not have a chorus pedal, but I really love how it sounded here. One thing I have been considering is building out a smaller pedal board. The RC 600 turns the pedal board into a beast cause it's so freaking big. For my more involved gigs I'm running a Roland Handsonic and Keyboard. But man I would love to have a simpler set up for corner in the bar gigs and yours really fits the bill. Thanks!
Your setup sounds awesome!
I really like this set up. Sounds great on here but how does it sound at show ?
It sounds great I love it!
great video, thanks for some inspiration, ended up with a CH-1, cloudburst, OC-5 and then went for the Strymon Brig for delay instead of the MXR :D What was the song at 6:00 and 10:30?
6:00 wasn't a song, just random chords! And 10:30 was Times Like These by the Foo Fighters. Sounds like you've got a great setup! Damn that Strymon delay must be nice.
Nice setup. I have a similar board except at the beginning of the chain I use a TC Impulse loader for acoustic sim with my Yamaha LS6M passive piezo and I put the Fishman at the very end using the XLR out. Cheers.
Very nice! Sounds great.
Sounds great. Are you running all the effects through the loop of the Fishman?
In this video no, but I've just done it and glad I did!
Great video man! Nice rundown and explanation! Subbed and looking forward to seeing more!
Cheers for the comment and sub dude. There will be more coming!
I have a question for pedal routing ,i have nux optima air its bassically ir for acoustic guitar with send/return, boss oc 3, tuner, deluxe memori man delay, tc elect booster , ambience reverb and boss looper. Can you give me suggestion for the optimum signal routing ? . Thanks in advance 🙏
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Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
Great demo! Can you explain how the pedals are set up? Are the chorus, reverb, delay, and looper in the Fishman effects loop? Thanks!
They aren’t in the fx loop. Guitar goes into the tuner, octave, EQ, chorus, delay, reverb, looper
Great video…I use many of the pedals as yourself…
Rock on!
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I'm assuming you are using a regular amp, so I'm left wondering how these pedals would work with an amp designed for acoustic guitars? Acoustic-oriented amp makers also seem to discourage using an overdrive/distortion pedal.
I go into a mixer and then into a PA system. Don't use a guitar amp for live use. I'll make a video on my full rig setup soon.
Great vid! very informative. I am interested in the Fishman Platinum. I use a TC Helicon acoustic guitar/vocal processor pedal ("Play Acoustic") when I play live. Would they work together?
Yes they would absolutely work together!
Same, but I’d be looking to ditch the Play Acoustic for the Fishman Platinum. Would be helpful if I could see your settings can’t quite make them out 👍🏻
You have great playing skills and great tone with that thing. I've seen people use Wah pedals with acoustic for lead with great effect. Curious what pickup you are using.
Thanks dude! It’s the Expression 2 system in a Taylor :)
@@SamHortonMusic I just bought a Taylor 314 50th anniversary with torrefied sound board. Makes me think I can get good plugged in tone with it with some EQ. Thinking of getting a cheap IR loader from TC Electronic.
@@Acoustic_Music-h6xdefinitely with a guitar like that!
@@SamHortonMusichad big problems with es2 in Taylor gs mini . Too harsh and brittle . I understand you need 7oz of pressure on piezo crystals . Needs digital tool . Shop couldn’t fix it and gave me my money back .
Do you find you have a hard time turning the looper off by having to double tap?
I don't have an issue with turning it off but the timing has to be spot on as with all looping. The most annoying feature of this looper is when you want to clear the loop you hold the pedal down but the loop plays back for a few seconds until it clears. To get around this I usually just turn the loop pedal down or the volume down on the mixer, but it's an annoying feature which I'll probably look to upgrade in the future.
Great setup but I would change one major thing. Remove that polytuner and get a Peterson stomp mini tuner instead. Smaller footprint, for one thing, and far, far more accurate tuning. Don't believe me? Try it! You won't believe what that tiny bit of extra of fine-tuning makes.
Interesting I've never tried them. Will give it a go, cheers!
Can I ask where did you get the footstomp cover for the cloudburst?
I'm not sure, I bought it second hand and it came like that.
Can you tel us in what order these are connected to each other.
It starts with the tuner and ends with the looper. Tuner, octave, EQ, chorus, delay, reverb, looper
what is the name of that dreamy sounding pedal? Ensemble CLoud?
It’s a Strymon Cloudburst. An excellent reverb pedal but it’s the ensemble switch that adds beautiful synth undertones. Highly recommended and very addictive!
Bonjour. J'ai une question. Si vous pouvez me répondre merci. Dans mon pedalier et pour le son que je recherche, je voudrais donner de ma guitares electro acoustique Une Épaisseur et je me demande si la pedale Octave de boss si je la regle sans delirer trop peut me donner une Épaisseur. Pouvez vous me dire ????
Yes it could be used at a low volume level to thicken it up. You could also use an EQ
got a relatively cheap nux optima air, a mini compressor and a tuner in my acoustic board .. just perfect for my acoustic needs .. planning to tryout a bodyrez soon though .. 😊
Sounds great!
I thought the tuner was going at the end of the chain.
Tuner needs the cleanest signal so it goes at the start right after the guitar
Get yourself an HX stomp dump that thing.
Haha worth checking out then?
So basically the same as any other pedalboard just without a overdrive or distortion pedal..
Haha no